X1 = More expensive, lower specs, less exclusives. Why would anyone buy one?

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="Samus3D"] Microsoft now has more first party studios than last gen 

Samus3D

Well they certainly can't have less.

M$' first party is even worse than I thought :lol:

[QUOTE="VERTIGO47"]

Why not?

XB1 has:

1. Ergonomic controllers (imo)
2. Excellent & Fluid Online Infrastructure (imo)
3. Strong 3rd party support
4. Exclusives

 

StrongBlackVine

- Weaker hardware - Nope not really. It's well balance and well rounded console for what it's capable of. But if tech hardware makes you sleep at night, crawl back to bed.

- More expensive - Get a job or ask mommy for a raise in your allowance. XB1 is giving you more bang for your buck. Everything that a gamer wants in a multimedia machine is there in One package. Don't like Kinect, according to MS, it's not needed to be turned on. Everything so far is an option. Everything included in the console, is understood by the core gamers who know better and know what to expect in XB1. 

- Average first party support - As if that really matters, multiplatform games are what really caters to the gaming audience. If not, PS3 would have single handedly obliterated the Wii and 360 by a large margin. XB1 has atleast the exclusives that do matter and have the potential to be top sellers. It's more practical, financially, that way.

- Anti-consumer agendas - They've been reversed, in case you've been living under a rock. 

all i know is that in the first two years of owning a 360 instead of ps3, i got halo3, cod4 (with the good online), gears of war, mass effect, forza 2, and dead rising. sucked that i had to miss all of GT5 prologue DEMO, ratchet and clank, resistance, and a ninja gaiden port from the original xbox.  yeah you guys are right xbox is worse than ps4 considering ps4's launch line up this time around offers killzone and infamous as the only remotely interesting titles. knack? dude... all credibility is lost when you guys are plugging that like its going to be awesome and the x one has bad games... at least i can admit that ryse looks dumb but guess what im not buying everything put on a shelf with a MS logo on it because im a consumer that actually evaluates purchases based on previous experiences. ive owned every playstation product put out with exception of a PSP and the PS3 is a HUGE downgrade from owning a PS2. PS2 at least had a mess of awesome exclusives like GTA, gran turismo, metal gear, and final fantasy. 

Only rabid lemmings can justify getting an Xbone over a PS4 at this point.

-MS first party is weak compared to Sony's and are less studios too.

-MS definitely doesn't support their consoles as long as Sony does

-XBone is using dat weaksauce Bonaire GPU with slower RAM

-Kinect 2.0

-PS+ gives you games, XBLive gives you ads

-$100 more expensive for weaker hardware

-Timed "console exclusives" instead of real exclusives (See Titanfall)

Some lems will say Xbone has the better launch but M$ is known for launching with games and then trickling down to bi-yearly rehashes of Halo, Fable, and Forza. The best thing any gamer can do right now is get the PS4 first and then maybe wait a year later for that inevitable XBone price drop or for M$ to get their disaster of a console sorted out (by hopefully releasing a Kinectless SKU).

Only rabid lemmings can justify getting an Xbone over a PS4 at this point.

 

-MS first party is weak compared to Sony's and are less studios too.

-MS definitely doesn't support their consoles as long as Sony does

-XBone is using dat weaksauce Bonaire GPU with slower RAM

-Kinect 2.0

-PS+ gives you games, XBLive gives you ads

-$100 more expensive for weaker hardware

-Timed "console exclusives" instead of real exclusives (See Titanfall)

 

Some lems will say Xbone has the better launch but M$ is known for launching with games and then trickling down to bi-yearly rehashes of Halo, Fable, and Forza. The best thing any gamer can do right now is get the PS4 first and then maybe wait a year later for that inevitable XBone price drop or for M$ to get their disaster of a console sorted out (by hopefully releasing a Kinectless SKU).

Kaz_Son

 bi-yearly releases of a key franchise are a GOOD thing when they are quality products which the ones you mentioned outside of fable 3 are. better than finally getting a super delayed GT5 after a demo tease you had to PAY FOR which garnered worse reviews than anything forza has put out EVER! (and it put out almost 3 games in the time you waited for the one)  $100 isnt shit in the scheme of a console that will be around for the greater part of a decade, if that breaks your bank then you should pick up more hours at your mcdonalds or ask mom for some extra cash. PS+ is essentially a rental service after you subscription goes away so do the games, i have a vita i know.  not to mention the network is garbage that no one is on in comparison and for the trash people talk guess what? you have to start paying for it as well for multiplayer so that PS argument is gone.  PS4 first party at this point isnt impressive, killzone looks amazing but with titanfall about to change FPS's no thanks.  the ps3 is way more powerful than the 360 and offers a blu ray player and it still struggles to keep up in the US so all this spec talk is completely unproven, the average consumer doesnt care about teraflops because they dont know what the hell that means!  they want the halo and gears and will buy what offers it.  at least you guys will have your forums to keep flappin your gums to while im playing forza lol

[QUOTE="Kaz_Son"]

Only rabid lemmings can justify getting an Xbone over a PS4 at this point.

 

-MS first party is weak compared to Sony's and are less studios too.

-MS definitely doesn't support their consoles as long as Sony does

-XBone is using dat weaksauce Bonaire GPU with slower RAM

-Kinect 2.0

-PS+ gives you games, XBLive gives you ads

-$100 more expensive for weaker hardware

-Timed "console exclusives" instead of real exclusives (See Titanfall)

 

Some lems will say Xbone has the better launch but M$ is known for launching with games and then trickling down to bi-yearly rehashes of Halo, Fable, and Forza. The best thing any gamer can do right now is get the PS4 first and then maybe wait a year later for that inevitable XBone price drop or for M$ to get their disaster of a console sorted out (by hopefully releasing a Kinectless SKU).

BIGtex42

 bi-yearly releases of a key franchise are a GOOD thing when they are quality products which the ones you mentioned outside of fable 3 are. better than finally getting a super delayed GT5 after a demo tease you had to PAY FOR which garnered worse reviews than anything forza has put out EVER! (and it put out almost 3 games in the time you waited for the one)  $100 isnt shit in the scheme of a console that will be around for the greater part of a decade, if that breaks your bank then you should pick up more hours at your mcdonalds or ask mom for some extra cash. PS+ is essentially a rental service after you subscription goes away so do the games, i have a vita i know.  not to mention the network is garbage that no one is on in comparison and for the trash people talk guess what? you have to start paying for it as well for multiplayer so that PS argument is gone.  PS4 first party at this point isnt impressive, killzone looks amazing but with titanfall about to change FPS's no thanks.  the ps3 is way more powerful than the 360 and offers a blu ray player and it still struggles to keep up in the US so all this spec talk is completely unproven, the average consumer doesnt care about teraflops because they dont know what the hell that means!  they want the halo and gears and will buy what offers it.  at least you guys will have your forums to keep flappin your gums to while im playing forza lol

[QUOTE="VERTIGO47"]

Why not?

XB1 has:

1. Ergonomic controllers (imo)
2. Excellent & Fluid Online Infrastructure (imo)
3. Strong 3rd party support
4. Exclusives

StrongBlackVine

- Weaker hardware

- More expensive

- Average first party support

- Anti-consumer agendas

I like the Kinect. 

Already invested in Xbox online system, loves casual, sports and tv features.

Already invested in Xbox online system, loves casual, sports and tv features.

j2zon2591

[QUOTE="j2zon2591"]

Already invested in Xbox online system, loves casual, sports and tv features.

slipknot0129

Why anyone would buy either of the consoles at launch is beyond me, they've both got equally shitty launch line ups and weak hardware.

[QUOTE="VERTIGO47"]

Why not?

XB1 has:

1. Ergonomic controllers (imo)
2. Excellent & Fluid Online Infrastructure (imo)
3. Strong 3rd party support
4. Exclusives

 

StrongBlackVine

- Weaker hardware (so does the PS4)

- More expensive (true, but barely)

- Average first party support (so does the PS4)

- Anti-consumer agendas (that have been reversed)

Strongblackmoo gonna moo.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"]^ desperation "unlabeled halo game" :lol:. thats like me saying "sony is hiding games until they are more finished to announce" Oh no, microsoft shows masterchief, their damn mascot. It would be like Nintendo showing a glimpse of mario then people adding mario galaxy 3 years before release.MBirdy88

Would you like a cookie?.

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] doesnt change the fact that there will be another halo in the next 2 years and that it will be bigger than every single sony franchise. Snugenz

Would you like a cookie?.

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Halo will become irellevant with Destiny. I'm not joking, oh wait I think halo sucks anyway.MBirdy88

Would you like a cookie?.

That's no different than yet another Uncharted, Killzone or GT, so why get your panties into a bunch?.

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]

Would you like a cookie?.

Snugenz

That's no different than yet another Uncharted, Killzone or GT, so why get your panties into a bunch?.

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Oh look,this thread againwiiutroll

this thread keeps popping up.

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]

Would you like a cookie?.

Snugenz

That's no different than yet another Uncharted, Killzone or GT, so why get your panties into a bunch?.

maybe some people just prefer xbox exclusives over playstation.. or majority of there friends are on xbox.

maybe some people just prefer xbox exclusives over playstation.. or majority of there friends are on xbox.

RpgGamer23q

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] No but you can give a cookie to that samus guy that is falling for MS launch lineup. Logic dictates that in the long run sony will have more games, and damn even before release alot more sales to support said games. People buying into this s*it because of 2 ancient dead-for-a-reason franchises have been ressurected in mediocre fashion, a new hipster fps that will be better on PC, yet another forza ... and a "we will obviously have a Halo game, not by bungie mind you....." oh the investement! I will be so excited to play Forza 6, gears of flop 12431434 and Halo - we tried again and failed for the rest of the generation.MBirdy88

That's no different than yet another Uncharted, Killzone or GT, so why get your panties into a bunch?.

That's a whole lotta words considering how you're saying absolutely **** all. "Blah blah blah, my opinion really matters, other peoples don't, blah blah" that's all i'm getting from your recent posts, which is dissapointing because you used to be a good poster, and i do share alot of opinions with you but these rants are up there with the super cows.

UC, KZ and GT are not better than Halo, Gears or Forza, multiplats will rule first party but that will also be true on the PS4, a system that will also be irrelevant if you have a good PC. Windows 8 is doing ok, i have it in my new build and have absolutely zero issues with it so far, and 8.1 looks like it'll be an improvement.

Finally, it's your opinion that you'll get high quality games on the PS4 that you wont get anywhere else. Other people do have different opinions and can very well believe they'll have quality games on the X1 they can't get anywhere else.

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]

That's no different than yet another Uncharted, Killzone or GT, so why get your panties into a bunch?.

Snugenz

That's a whole lotta words considering how you're saying absolutely **** all. "Blah blah blah, my opinion really matters, other peoples don't, blah blah" that's all i'm getting from your recent posts, which is dissapointing because you used to be a good poster, and i do share alot of opinions with you but these rants are up there with the super cows.

UC, KZ and GT are not better than Halo, Gears or Forza, multiplats will rule first party but that will also be true on the PS4, a system that will also be irrelevant if you have a good PC. Windows 8 is doing ok, i have it in my new build and have absolutely zero issues with it so far, and 8.1 looks like it'll be an improvement.

Finally, it's your opinion that you'll get high quality games on the PS4 that you wont get anywhere else. Other people do have different opinions and can very well believe they'll have quality games on the X1 they can't get anywhere else.

Nothing I said was opinion. Uncharted clearly beats gears in scores and reception now. Halo 4's multiplayer dropped incredibly quickly, and its very safe to say that Destiny will be the "permanent long term halo of the future".... VERY safe. Forza ... great, I can't comment much.... not a massive fan of racers. Killer insinct - already much better fights or at least of equal quality. Hell even Killzone has been better received than Gears now, gears has become redundant, no surprise how such a mediocre franchise single handedly killed Unreal Tournament with its lucky "360 had no good games so people bought this in droves" mentality. You think opinion and logical hypothesis are the same thing, they are not. Fact of the matter is that Microsoft exclusives are not as "hot" as they once were and there is no sign of that changing now. oh sure, you can quote Halo 4 sales, but its retention rate and after-math reviews speak volumes of the reality. oh and, no offence, nothing personal, I couldn't care if you respected me as a poster, I've lost patience with most people here now. I'm guessing since most people are bitter towards me is mainly my "guild wars 2 opinions" (wildly shared by anyone that doesn't lick the games a$s E.G most of the MMO community.) but whatever, I call BS when I see it. My Hypothesis could be wrong. but its NOT my opinion that states the FACT that microsoft as a company are at "risk of irrelevance" because of their leadership being so stuck in backwards mode. or the much higher reception and pre-orders of the PS4 likely leading to better support. simple conclusion really. if I'm wrong I'm wrong, but damn the odds are on my side.MBirdy88

Even if you weren't sharing your opinion on those games my point still stands, while you preach about how Halo, Gears and Forza are becoming stale, it's very likely that people feel the same way about Killzone, Uncharted and GT.

Ofc MS will take a hit in popularity and sales after their horrible PR this year, that's bound to happen, but whether or not the negative attitude towards them will persist is anyones guess, personally i don't see the point in speculating about it in this thread as the OP had one very simple question - why would anyone buy one?. 

19 pages and no answers.

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Nothing I said was opinion. Uncharted clearly beats gears in scores and reception now. Halo 4's multiplayer dropped incredibly quickly, and its very safe to say that Destiny will be the "permanent long term halo of the future".... VERY safe. Forza ... great, I can't comment much.... not a massive fan of racers. Killer insinct - already much better fights or at least of equal quality. Hell even Killzone has been better received than Gears now, gears has become redundant, no surprise how such a mediocre franchise single handedly killed Unreal Tournament with its lucky "360 had no good games so people bought this in droves" mentality. You think opinion and logical hypothesis are the same thing, they are not. Fact of the matter is that Microsoft exclusives are not as "hot" as they once were and there is no sign of that changing now. oh sure, you can quote Halo 4 sales, but its retention rate and after-math reviews speak volumes of the reality. oh and, no offence, nothing personal, I couldn't care if you respected me as a poster, I've lost patience with most people here now. I'm guessing since most people are bitter towards me is mainly my "guild wars 2 opinions" (wildly shared by anyone that doesn't lick the games a$s E.G most of the MMO community.) but whatever, I call BS when I see it. My Hypothesis could be wrong. but its NOT my opinion that states the FACT that microsoft as a company are at "risk of irrelevance" because of their leadership being so stuck in backwards mode. or the much higher reception and pre-orders of the PS4 likely leading to better support. simple conclusion really. if I'm wrong I'm wrong, but damn the odds are on my side.Snugenz

Even if you weren't sharing your opinion on those games my point still stands, while you preach about how Halo, Gears and Forza are becoming stale, it's very likely that people feel the same way about Killzone, Uncharted and GT.

Ofc MS will take a hit in popularity and sales after their horrible PR this year, that's bound to happen, but whether or not the negative attitude towards them will persist is anyones guess, personally i don't see the point in speculating about it in this thread as the OP had one very simple question - why would anyone buy one?. 

Gran Turismo 5 came out 3 years ago, I'm sure in 2 years Halo 4 will be well ahead... It's also sad how their main franchise is a driving simulator. 

 

 

Samus3D

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Nothing I said was opinion. Uncharted clearly beats gears in scores and reception now. Halo 4's multiplayer dropped incredibly quickly, and its very safe to say that Destiny will be the "permanent long term halo of the future".... VERY safe. Forza ... great, I can't comment much.... not a massive fan of racers. Killer insinct - already much better fights or at least of equal quality. Hell even Killzone has been better received than Gears now, gears has become redundant, no surprise how such a mediocre franchise single handedly killed Unreal Tournament with its lucky "360 had no good games so people bought this in droves" mentality. You think opinion and logical hypothesis are the same thing, they are not. Fact of the matter is that Microsoft exclusives are not as "hot" as they once were and there is no sign of that changing now. oh sure, you can quote Halo 4 sales, but its retention rate and after-math reviews speak volumes of the reality. oh and, no offence, nothing personal, I couldn't care if you respected me as a poster, I've lost patience with most people here now. I'm guessing since most people are bitter towards me is mainly my "guild wars 2 opinions" (wildly shared by anyone that doesn't lick the games a$s E.G most of the MMO community.) but whatever, I call BS when I see it. My Hypothesis could be wrong. but its NOT my opinion that states the FACT that microsoft as a company are at "risk of irrelevance" because of their leadership being so stuck in backwards mode. or the much higher reception and pre-orders of the PS4 likely leading to better support. simple conclusion really. if I'm wrong I'm wrong, but damn the odds are on my side.MBirdy88

Even if you weren't sharing your opinion on those games my point still stands, while you preach about how Halo, Gears and Forza are becoming stale, it's very likely that people feel the same way about Killzone, Uncharted and GT.

Ofc MS will take a hit in popularity and sales after their horrible PR this year, that's bound to happen, but whether or not the negative attitude towards them will persist is anyones guess, personally i don't see the point in speculating about it in this thread as the OP had one very simple question - why would anyone buy one?. 

Those b-grade exclusives could well be system sellers to some individuals, i wouldn't share that opinion but i'm not ignorant to the fact the people have differing opinions on what's considered good entertainment.

I think you see MS as some evil corperation out to trick or con people.  MS just want your money like Sony or Nintendo. Buying third party exclusives isn't underhanded or seedy, it's just one way of getting games on their platform.

[QUOTE="Heil68"]Fanboys who blindly support a corporation. Sad really. superclocked

That doesn't mean anything. I'm a hardcore cow as well, but I don't support Sony blindly. I deliberately decided to support them because they make the best gaming platform in the industry.

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="Heil68"]Fanboys who blindly support a corporation. Sad really. BlbecekBobecek

That doesn't mean anything. (snip) as well, but I don't support Sony blindly. I deliberately decided to support them because I'm a hardcore cow  (they make the best gaming platform in the industry).

Fixed that for ya :P

Dead Rising 3 and Titanfall.

Thanks, come again.

So the facts are:

The Bone is $100 or £80 more expensive than the PS4 + it has a bunch of features behind a paywall.

PS4 is 50% more powerful. This will result in better multiplats and it also represents far etter value for money than the Bone. It also has a bunch of F2P games at launch and PS+ is a much better deal.

Sony have an amazing first and second party which does not even need listing. Compare that to MS who only have one AAA dev in Turn 10. Not only are their devs better quality (Rare and Lionhead are just awful) but they also have far more of them. That means more and better exclusives. 

How can anyone justify purchasing an Xbox One? Anyone who says launch exclusives should think again because this gen will last 10 years and MS aren't going to keep buying 3rd party exclusives like Titanfall and DR3.

I can't believe that the lems are actually multiplying. Even LoosingEnds has come to his senses but somehow these awful people till exist here on SW. MS tried to screw them in the ass but somehow they're still on here everyday defending this company that has been nothing but a plague on gaming since 2009.

BigBoss255

A better question would be: Why are Sony fanboys always concerned about what other will buy?

To answer your question TC, it's obvious that, just like many of you who got a PS3 at $600 with no good games, some are getting a X1 because they like Xbox brand. Even more obvious is the fact that some may prefer Xbox exclusives. Personaly, i'll miss Halo series, Forza series, Killer Instinct and Remedy games.

Dead Rising 3 and Titanfall.

Thanks, come again.

Puckhog04

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]

Even if you weren't sharing your opinion on those games my point still stands, while you preach about how Halo, Gears and Forza are becoming stale, it's very likely that people feel the same way about Killzone, Uncharted and GT.

Ofc MS will take a hit in popularity and sales after their horrible PR this year, that's bound to happen, but whether or not the negative attitude towards them will persist is anyones guess, personally i don't see the point in speculating about it in this thread as the OP had one very simple question - why would anyone buy one?. 

Snugenz

Those b-grade exclusives could well be system sellers to some individuals, i wouldn't share that opinion but i'm not ignorant to the fact the people have differing opinions on what's considered good entertainment.

I think you see MS as some evil corperation out to trick or con people.  MS just want your money like Sony or Nintendo. Buying third party exclusives isn't underhanded or seedy, it's just one way of getting games on their platform.

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Is it not fair to give both sides of the coin? People are arguing launch lineup is better (when ok THIS IS OPINION - both lineups are crap and most launch games tend to be no reason to purchase a system) and the pretty safe opinion that microsoft is STILL the same arrogant company that turned the 360 from lead core console into nothingness has not changed whatsoever. Buying old franchises without the same developers, and buying sort of "b-grade multiplats to exclusive" like dead rising 3 isn't going to fool everybody.MBirdy88

Those b-grade exclusives could well be system sellers to some individuals, i wouldn't share that opinion but i'm not ignorant to the fact the people have differing opinions on what's considered good entertainment.

I think you see MS as some evil corperation out to trick or con people.  MS just want your money like Sony or Nintendo. Buying third party exclusives isn't underhanded or seedy, it's just one way of getting games on their platform.

Who are they falling behind in the OS market?

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]

Those b-grade exclusives could well be system sellers to some individuals, i wouldn't share that opinion but i'm not ignorant to the fact the people have differing opinions on what's considered good entertainment.

I think you see MS as some evil corperation out to trick or con people.  MS just want your money like Sony or Nintendo. Buying third party exclusives isn't underhanded or seedy, it's just one way of getting games on their platform.

Snugenz

Who are they falling behind in the OS market?

So the facts are:

The Bone is $100 or £80 more expensive than the PS4 + it has a bunch of features behind a paywall.

PS4 is 50% more powerful. This will result in better multiplats and it also represents far etter value for money than the Bone. It also has a bunch of F2P games at launch and PS+ is a much better deal.

Sony have an amazing first and second party which does not even need listing. Compare that to MS who only have one AAA dev in Turn 10. Not only are their devs better quality (Rare and Lionhead are just awful) but they also have far more of them. That means more and better exclusives.

How can anyone justify purchasing an Xbox One? Anyone who says launch exclusives should think again because this gen will last 10 years and MS aren't going to keep buying 3rd party exclusives like Titanfall and DR3.

I can't believe that the lems are actually multiplying. Even LoosingEnds has come to his senses but somehow these awful people till exist here on SW. MS tried to screw them in the ass but somehow they're still on here everyday defending this company that has been nothing but a plague on gaming since 2009.

BigBoss255

Those aren't facts - they are opinions and slanted truths.

The XB1 is the real "next generation" console, the PS4 is just a hardware upgrade.

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"]

So the facts are:

The Bone is $100 or £80 more expensive than the PS4 + it has a bunch of features behind a paywall.

PS4 is 50% more powerful. This will result in better multiplats and it also represents far etter value for money than the Bone. It also has a bunch of F2P games at launch and PS+ is a much better deal.

Sony have an amazing first and second party which does not even need listing. Compare that to MS who only have one AAA dev in Turn 10. Not only are their devs better quality (Rare and Lionhead are just awful) but they also have far more of them. That means more and better exclusives.

How can anyone justify purchasing an Xbox One? Anyone who says launch exclusives should think again because this gen will last 10 years and MS aren't going to keep buying 3rd party exclusives like Titanfall and DR3.

I can't believe that the lems are actually multiplying. Even LoosingEnds has come to his senses but somehow these awful people till exist here on SW. MS tried to screw them in the ass but somehow they're still on here everyday defending this company that has been nothing but a plague on gaming since 2009.

StormyJoe

Those aren't facts - they are opinions and slanted truths.

The XB1 is the real "next generation" console, the PS4 is just a hardware upgrade.

Also..

The One = 750.00 in HW ( W/K2) for 500.00

The Bore - 550.00 in HW for 400.00

You do the math. :P