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#51 A-new-Guardian
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@mems_1224: you always find a way lol I admire that.

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@soulitane said:
@nyadc said:
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Who gives a shit...

People who want to play with their friends on another platform?

You act like cross platform gaming is some kind of standard in the industry when the reality is only a handful of games out of thousands upon thousands offer this....

Again, who gives a shit...

Um, no I don't, but with this game it is, so....

It's the standard for other platforms, and the reasoning is as of now unspecified, but in all reality it doesn't matter.

It's a good game, you'll make friends, you'll enjoy the game, life goes on, stop with the melodramatics...

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@nyadc said:
@soulitane said:
@nyadc said:
@soulitane said:
@nyadc said:

Who gives a shit...

People who want to play with their friends on another platform?

You act like cross platform gaming is some kind of standard in the industry when the reality is only a handful of games out of thousands upon thousands offer this....

Again, who gives a shit...

Um, no I don't, but with this game it is, so....

It's the standard for other platforms, and the reasoning is as of now unspecified, but in all reality it doesn't matter.

It's a good game, you'll make friends, you'll enjoy the game, life goes on, stop with the melodramatics...

So I'll take that as I'm right (what a shocker) since nothing you said disproves that fact that people clearly do care.

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@soulitane said:

So I'll take that as I'm right (what a shocker) since nothing you said disproves that fact that people clearly do care.

People pretend to care not because it actually affects them, they pretend to care because something was theoretically taken away from them...

This is all a bunch of nonsensical dramatics.

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#55 soulitane
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@nyadc said:
@soulitane said:

So I'll take that as I'm right (what a shocker) since nothing you said disproves that fact that people clearly do care.

People pretend to care not because it actually affects them, they pretend to care because something was theoretically taken away from them...

This is all a bunch of nonsensical dramatics.

Interesting, so still nothing to actually prove your point. Please try again with something of actual substance thanks.

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#56 NyaDC
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@soulitane said:
@nyadc said:
@soulitane said:

So I'll take that as I'm right (what a shocker) since nothing you said disproves that fact that people clearly do care.

People pretend to care not because it actually affects them, they pretend to care because something was theoretically taken away from them...

This is all a bunch of nonsensical dramatics.

Interesting, so still nothing to actually prove your point. Please try again with something of actual substance thanks.

There's absolute substance, you people are just pulling SJW tactics to create a problem where there isn't one.

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Cross play would only ever matter if it were Xbox/Playstation cross play. PC cross play is something I don't want especially with FPS games! Are people insane, keyboard mouse would destroy and the only fix would be to make a game that forces PC players to uses controllers, then they would whine. I'd only every buy a cross play game if I had the option to NOT play with PC gamers.

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#58 soulitane
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@nyadc said:
@soulitane said:
@nyadc said:
@soulitane said:

So I'll take that as I'm right (what a shocker) since nothing you said disproves that fact that people clearly do care.

People pretend to care not because it actually affects them, they pretend to care because something was theoretically taken away from them...

This is all a bunch of nonsensical dramatics.

Interesting, so still nothing to actually prove your point. Please try again with something of actual substance thanks.

There's absolute substance, you people are just pulling SJW tactics to create a problem where there isn't one.

So again, you lack anything to actually back up your original claim. Can't say I expected much better, oh well, one can hope.

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Cross play would only ever matter if it were Xbox/Playstation cross play. PC cross play is something I don't want especially with FPS games! Are people insane, keyboard mouse would destroy and the only fix would be to make a game that forces PC players to uses controllers, then they would whine. I'd only every buy a cross play game if I had the option to NOT play with PC gamers.

well this isn't a shooter game

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@lostrib said:
@xxyetixx said:

Cross play would only ever matter if it were Xbox/Playstation cross play. PC cross play is something I don't want especially with FPS games! Are people insane, keyboard mouse would destroy and the only fix would be to make a game that forces PC players to uses controllers, then they would whine. I'd only every buy a cross play game if I had the option to NOT play with PC gamers.

well this isn't a shooter game

People can still cheat in this game no doubt, crossplay versus multiplayer on consoles with PC is idiotic.

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@lostrib: I know this game isn't a shooter, but it's a lot easier for the "master race" to mod/cheat/ruin a fun time.

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#62 MirkoS77
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Ridiculous.

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#63 RTUUMM
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wAIT....This whole time Rocket League wasnt on X1?

lol what?

I though it had came over like 2 months after it came on PS4, no?

holy shit you guys missed out cuz the game has grown and changed a bit.

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@soulitane: if you're on pc can you choose someone specifically to play with on ps4? My understanding was that it was random to fill out matches.

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@RTUUMM: thanks for beta testing

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@mems_1224 said:

@soulitane: if you're on pc can you choose someone specifically to play with on ps4? My understanding was that it was random to fill out matches.

You can't party up with the someone on a different platform.

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#67 lastcoin
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No idea how it go this time,but some mmos not coming to xbone due to the fact MS forbid third party servers.

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#68 the_master_race
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Microsoft , ... Microsoft Never Changes

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@clyde46 said:
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They'l allow for it down the road, just watch.

For Windows 10 users only.

Exactly. Which works for me as I love windows 10.

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#70 inggrish
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@Randoggy: I agree, i would love to play my ps online games with xbox gamers and vice versa, i dont believe there is a technical reason for there not being this feature anywhere.

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@lostrib said:
@i_p_daily said:

I think it's good to NOT have cross play.

I don't want to be playing a game and being in a match with Sony fanboys like the idiotic ones that stalk these halls, no thanks.

you'd rather just be stuck playing with all the people on XBL that have apparently fucked your mother?

LMAO stellar work 'rib

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#72 JJMarley
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Its really nothing new. Almost all multiplats are not crossplay so I don't see how this is different. Its like people here bitch just to bitch.

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Its really nothing new. Almost all multiplats are not crossplay so I don't see how this is different. Its like people here bitch just to bitch.

I don't think you understand why it matters. This isn't some random game not supporting cross-play. Rocket League already has cross play between PS4 and PC. The fact that they can't add X1 to the mix after they've already established cross-play is ridiculous.

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@Toxic-Seahorse: ah I see. Didn't know it was crossplay between PS4 and PC. Thanks for clearing that up. Well I hope MS does allow it in the future.

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@lostrib said:
@i_p_daily said:

I think it's good to NOT have cross play.

I don't want to be playing a game and being in a match with Sony fanboys like the idiotic ones that stalk these halls, no thanks.

you'd rather just be stuck playing with all the people on XBL that have apparently fucked your mother?

All the Dudebros have purchasd a PS4 - and besides, kids like that are nothing compared to the ones that populate games like DotA and LoL

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#76 roboed
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@lostrib: No what played a role in street fighter not coming to the X1 was sonys cash

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Why would I want to play against PC users when I have the amazing Xbox communtiy of gamers to play online with

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Why would I want to play against PC users when I have the amazing Xbox communtiy of gamers to play online with

I dunno, maybe to play with friends that don't own an Xbox One or PS4.

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Name another game that has crossplay between Xbox One, PC, and PS4? This isn't news nor a surprise. When that game comes, it will be nice but till then it's just back to business.

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@nyadc said:
@lostrib said:
@xxyetixx said:

Cross play would only ever matter if it were Xbox/Playstation cross play. PC cross play is something I don't want especially with FPS games! Are people insane, keyboard mouse would destroy and the only fix would be to make a game that forces PC players to uses controllers, then they would whine. I'd only every buy a cross play game if I had the option to NOT play with PC gamers.

well this isn't a shooter game

People can still cheat in this game no doubt, crossplay versus multiplayer on consoles with PC is idiotic.

I like how you are speaking as if this hasnt happen before and worked out great with none of the BS you are trying to spin

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@RTUUMM said:
@nyadc said:
@lostrib said:
@xxyetixx said:

Cross play would only ever matter if it were Xbox/Playstation cross play. PC cross play is something I don't want especially with FPS games! Are people insane, keyboard mouse would destroy and the only fix would be to make a game that forces PC players to uses controllers, then they would whine. I'd only every buy a cross play game if I had the option to NOT play with PC gamers.

well this isn't a shooter game

People can still cheat in this game no doubt, crossplay versus multiplayer on consoles with PC is idiotic.

I like how you are speaking as if this hasnt happen before and worked out great with none of the BS you are trying to spin

What's BS about it? Cheating on a console is extremely difficult, extremely difficult, also you'll get your console banned from the network in a matter of minutes at the most if you attempt it. Putting PC players into the mix completely removes this dynamic, they are free to cheat at will with the most that can happen being anti-cheat measures, that of which none exist in Rocket League.

Don't like the facts of reality or something? They are completely different environments and depending on the game the PC crowd can destroy it for console players.

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@i_p_daily said:
@lostrib said:
@i_p_daily said:

I think it's good to NOT have cross play.

I don't want to be playing a game and being in a match with Sony fanboys like the idiotic ones that stalk these halls, no thanks.

you'd rather just be stuck playing with all the people on XBL that have apparently fucked your mother?

Well you hear shit like that no matter what the gaming community. I mostly tend to play with friends, but why would anyone want to play against gamers from a different community? Imagine the stupid fanboy shit that goes on here, well multiply that 10 fold and add voice chat and nobody wants that.

I like to game and have fun, not to listen to fanboys go at it like morons.

You cannot hear voice communication between PC and PS4 players and you can mute voice communication from players on your platform. So I dont see what you're problem here is. You're biggest worry is the message spam.

If you ever played the game, people trolling through voice chat is the least of your concearn because the person that you're most tempted to punch right in the dick/vagina in Rocket League is your teammate.

Enabling crossplay will:

1. Integrate you within an MMR/ELO/Glicko system (whatever it uses) that is not as volatile compared to how the game launched initially on PS4/PC.

2. Allow for shorter matchmaking times.

3. More players to play against. There are more players playing Rocket League on Steam right now than Call of Duty: Black Ops 3

4. Have the top players in the game within your pool. Excluding them in a competitive game system reduces the quality of the competition that the game is riding on right now.

5. The game has regional servers, so the more players in a pool, the better for XBONE owners in other parts of the world. Matchmaking times are significantly shorter at certain times of the day than others.

6. Ensure the health of an active playerbase as the game continues to expand its content (The studio are doing a great job not splitting the community while adding content at a good pace).

7. The flavour of the month period of the game is gone and the XBONE release will likely not have the same impact, so it needs the support of the existing community that are still enjoying the game.

8. Not having crossplay does not look good for the XBL Gold Service that you're paying for that excluded all of the above for a game.

It sounds like you are the insecure fanboy here attempting to provide some damage control.

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#83  Edited By mems_1224
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@illmatic87 said:
@i_p_daily said:
@lostrib said:
@i_p_daily said:

I think it's good to NOT have cross play.

I don't want to be playing a game and being in a match with Sony fanboys like the idiotic ones that stalk these halls, no thanks.

you'd rather just be stuck playing with all the people on XBL that have apparently fucked your mother?

Well you hear shit like that no matter what the gaming community. I mostly tend to play with friends, but why would anyone want to play against gamers from a different community? Imagine the stupid fanboy shit that goes on here, well multiply that 10 fold and add voice chat and nobody wants that.

I like to game and have fun, not to listen to fanboys go at it like morons.

You cannot hear voice communication between PC and PS4 players. So I dont see what you're problem here is. You're biggest worry is the message spam. If you ever played the game, kids trolling is the least of your concearn because the person that you're most tempted to punch right in the dick in Rocket League is your teammates.

Enabling crossplay will:

1. Integrate you within an MMR/ELO/Glicko system (whatever it uses) that is not as volatile compared to how the game launched initially on PS4/PC.

2. Allow for shorter matchmaking times.

3. More players to play against. There are more players playing Rocket League on Steam right now than Call of Duty: Black Ops 3

4. Have the top players in the game within your pool. Excluding them in a competitive game system reduces the quality of the competition that the game is riding on right now.

5. The game has regional servers, so the more players in a pool, the better for XBONE owners in other parts of the world. Matchmaking times are significantly shorter at certain times of the day than others.

6. Ensure the health of an active playerbase as the game continues to expand its content (The studio are doing a great job not splitting the community while adding content at a good pace).

7. The flavour of the month period of the game is gone and the XBONE release will likely not have the same impact, so it needs the support of the existing community that are still enjoying the game.

8. Not having crossplay does not look good for the XBL Gold Service that you're paying for that excluded all of the above for a game.

It sounds like you are the insecure fanboy here attempting to provide some damage control.

xbl has games with cross play though. the issue is completely between MS and Sony I would imagine. Neither company wants crossplay between PS4/Xbox

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@mems_1224 said:

xbl has games with cross play though. the issue is completely between MS and Sony I would imagine. Neither company wants crossplay between PS4/Xbox

I agree, it's all about making profits for the 2. Sony can't make a profit if crossplay is allowed with XBL Gamers as well as MS can't make a profit with PSN Plus Players, they can only make an additional profit with the publisher of the game with their servers. Hell, maybe the XBL and PSN+ servers are written differently? Whatever the issue is, it's something that Rocket League makers have to figure out and cut out a deal with both, but I could imagine it will take a lot of money to make it happen.

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Lol

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@nyadc said:
@lostrib said:
@xxyetixx said:

Cross play would only ever matter if it were Xbox/Playstation cross play. PC cross play is something I don't want especially with FPS games! Are people insane, keyboard mouse would destroy and the only fix would be to make a game that forces PC players to uses controllers, then they would whine. I'd only every buy a cross play game if I had the option to NOT play with PC gamers.

well this isn't a shooter game

People can still cheat in this game no doubt, crossplay versus multiplayer on consoles with PC is idiotic.

No it's not. It works very well with Rocket League. Sometimes I can't tell whether I'm playing a PC player until I check the score. I would agree that PC gamers might have an advantage in FPS games, but that shouldn't hamper non-fps games from doing cross play. Multiplatform games shouldn't be isolated by platform. It's the same game, so why not include everyone playing it?

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@illmatic87 said:
@i_p_daily said:
@lostrib said:
@i_p_daily said:

I think it's good to NOT have cross play.

I don't want to be playing a game and being in a match with Sony fanboys like the idiotic ones that stalk these halls, no thanks.

you'd rather just be stuck playing with all the people on XBL that have apparently fucked your mother?

Well you hear shit like that no matter what the gaming community. I mostly tend to play with friends, but why would anyone want to play against gamers from a different community? Imagine the stupid fanboy shit that goes on here, well multiply that 10 fold and add voice chat and nobody wants that.

I like to game and have fun, not to listen to fanboys go at it like morons.

You cannot hear voice communication between PC and PS4 players and you can mute voice communication from players on your platform. So I dont see what you're problem here is. You're biggest worry is the message spam.

If you ever played the game, people trolling through voice chat is the least of your concearn because the person that you're most tempted to punch right in the dick/vagina in Rocket League is your teammate.

Enabling crossplay will:

1. Integrate you within an MMR/ELO/Glicko system (whatever it uses) that is not as volatile compared to how the game launched initially on PS4/PC.

2. Allow for shorter matchmaking times.

3. More players to play against. There are more players playing Rocket League on Steam right now than Call of Duty: Black Ops 3

4. Have the top players in the game within your pool. Excluding them in a competitive game system reduces the quality of the competition that the game is riding on right now.

5. The game has regional servers, so the more players in a pool, the better for XBONE owners in other parts of the world. Matchmaking times are significantly shorter at certain times of the day than others.

6. Ensure the health of an active playerbase as the game continues to expand its content (The studio are doing a great job not splitting the community while adding content at a good pace).

7. The flavour of the month period of the game is gone and the XBONE release will likely not have the same impact, so it needs the support of the existing community that are still enjoying the game.

8. Not having crossplay does not look good for the XBL Gold Service that you're paying for that excluded all of the above for a game.

It sounds like you are the insecure fanboy here attempting to provide some damage control.

TL:DR except for the last part

So i'm the insecure fanboy attempting to provide damage control, really?

There is enough idiots on XBL as it is, and I don't want to run into ones on the PC & PS4 also. Yet somehow I'm trying to damage control something that I don't want, that isn't coming anyway, and I'm happy about it. So what am I damage controlling again???

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It's a shame because X1 offers vastly superior matchmaking., but I bet it's because of either some netcode incompatibility with either PS4 or non-Windows 10 PC or the fact that their matchmaking would work on ONLY Win 10 PCs.

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@notafanboy said:
@lawlessx said:

microsoft really doesn't like the idea of their fanbase playing with PS4 owners.

There's a marketing reason for that.

XBL players are mostly uneducated morons thinking XBL is using dedicated servers when all Microsoft does is flip on a switch that costs nothing on MS's end. XBL is just a DD platform like Steam. If XBL players are playing with PSN players, then XBL players are gonna wonder why they gotta pay $60/year while PSN players pay nothing. Their entire scam comes crumbling down.

Lol, congrats... you've won this years award for "Dumbest post" on Gamespot forums. Well done.

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@nyadc said:
@RTUUMM said:
@nyadc said:
@lostrib said:
@xxyetixx said:

Cross play would only ever matter if it were Xbox/Playstation cross play. PC cross play is something I don't want especially with FPS games! Are people insane, keyboard mouse would destroy and the only fix would be to make a game that forces PC players to uses controllers, then they would whine. I'd only every buy a cross play game if I had the option to NOT play with PC gamers.

well this isn't a shooter game

People can still cheat in this game no doubt, crossplay versus multiplayer on consoles with PC is idiotic.

I like how you are speaking as if this hasnt happen before and worked out great with none of the BS you are trying to spin

What's BS about it? Cheating on a console is extremely difficult, extremely difficult, also you'll get your console banned from the network in a matter of minutes at the most if you attempt it. Putting PC players into the mix completely removes this dynamic, they are free to cheat at will with the most that can happen being anti-cheat measures, that of which none exist in Rocket League.

Don't like the facts of reality or something? They are completely different environments and depending on the game the PC crowd can destroy it for console players.

so can you name me the examples?

can you point out the times cheaters have been on Rocket League?

if you cant, then my point stands.

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@RTUUMM said:
@nyadc said:
@RTUUMM said:
@nyadc said:
@lostrib said:

well this isn't a shooter game

People can still cheat in this game no doubt, crossplay versus multiplayer on consoles with PC is idiotic.

I like how you are speaking as if this hasnt happen before and worked out great with none of the BS you are trying to spin

What's BS about it? Cheating on a console is extremely difficult, extremely difficult, also you'll get your console banned from the network in a matter of minutes at the most if you attempt it. Putting PC players into the mix completely removes this dynamic, they are free to cheat at will with the most that can happen being anti-cheat measures, that of which none exist in Rocket League.

Don't like the facts of reality or something? They are completely different environments and depending on the game the PC crowd can destroy it for console players.

so can you name me the examples?

can you point out the times cheaters have been on Rocket League?

if you cant, then my point stands.

Examples are unnecessary and whether I can name them or not is completely irrelevant, you can cheat easily in nearly any online game on PC, this can have damaging effects on crossplatform games on console all the same as PC, something consoles are generally not subjected to...

Stop trying to scapegoat shit with dumb backdoor logic...

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#93 tormentos
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But but xbox live is better you can play halo titanfall and order pizza who cares about cross platform play that is so ps3..