X360 fans don't seem to understand!

Is it me or to X360 fans not understand the fact that their console came out alot eralier than PS3 and wii. Every day i come on this forum and there are threads from X360 owners about how PS3 has not sold as well as its previous consoles or the 360 and Wii.

I am not into all this fanboy argument stuff and i really don't care what console myself or you play but will the 360 fans please stop going on about PS3 being unsuccessful, your a whole financial year ahead of the competition what the hell do you expect?!

well cows did say that as soon as the ps3 came out it would kill the 360 in every way, games, graphics, and sales

if they can talk @#$#% why can't lems

well cows did say that as soon as the ps3 came out it would kill the 360 in every way, games, graphics, and sales

if they can talk @#$#% why can't lems

onewiththegame

true. At the end, PS3=360 but with less games ;)

I agree in 2005, basically EVERYBODY wanted to move from 6th gen to 7th gen. The 360 came first and PS2, Gamecube, and Xbox owners all bought 360. They were impatient and wanted a taste of the next gen. The 360 did have a year head start with a huge fanbase but 360 owners seem to not care.OutlawStarXIII

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well cows did say that as soon as the ps3 came out it would kill the 360 in every way, games, graphics, and sales

if they can talk @#$#% why can't lems

PAL360

true. At the end, PS3=360 but with less games ;)

Pls no PS3 is not 360. Because PS3 doesn't Fail as much as 360, doesn't have a rip-off online service and has the best game this gen MGS4.

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well cows did say that as soon as the ps3 came out it would kill the 360 in every way, games, graphics, and sales

if they can talk @#$#% why can't lems

knight-k

true. At the end, PS3=360 but with less games ;)

Pls no PS3 is not 360. Because PS3 doesn't Fail as much as 360, doesn't have a rip-off online service and has the best game this gen MGS4.

I gess that is your opinion. 360 has 2x more A, AA and AAA games than PS3. That is a fact

[QUOTE="knight-k"][QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

well cows did say that as soon as the ps3 came out it would kill the 360 in every way, games, graphics, and sales

if they can talk @#$#% why can't lems

PAL360

true. At the end, PS3=360 but with less games ;)

Pls no PS3 is not 360. Because PS3 doesn't Fail as much as 360, doesn't have a rip-off online service and has the best game this gen MGS4.

I gess that is your opinion. 360 has 2x more A, AA and AAA games than PS3. That is a fact

PS3 has the best exclusive this gen that's a fact. Ps3 is reliable that's a fact. PS3 doesn't have a rip-off online service that's a fact.

[QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

well cows did say that as soon as the ps3 came out it would kill the 360 in every way, games, graphics, and sales

if they can talk @#$#% why can't lems

knight-k

true. At the end, PS3=360 but with less games ;)

Pls no PS3 is not 360. Because PS3 doesn't Fail as much as 360, doesn't have a rip-off online service and has the best game this gen MGS4.

all he mentioned was games. and he is correct. the 360 has a wider library than the PS3. sure, MGS4 is awesome, but its just one game.

[QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="knight-k"][QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

well cows did say that as soon as the ps3 came out it would kill the 360 in every way, games, graphics, and sales

if they can talk @#$#% why can't lems

knight-k

true. At the end, PS3=360 but with less games ;)

Pls no PS3 is not 360. Because PS3 doesn't Fail as much as 360, doesn't have a rip-off online service and has the best game this gen MGS4.

I gess that is your opinion. 360 has 2x more A, AA and AAA games than PS3. That is a fact

PS3 has the best exclusive this gen that's a fact. Ps3 is reliable that's a fact. PS3 doesn't have a rip-off online service that's a fact.

Sorry...thats just your opinion. In my opinion halo3 is better than MGS4

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well cows did say that as soon as the ps3 came out it would kill the 360 in every way, games, graphics, and sales

if they can talk @#$#% why can't lems

PAL360

true. At the end, PS3=360 but with less games ;)

Pls no PS3 is not 360. Because PS3 doesn't Fail as much as 360, doesn't have a rip-off online service and has the best game this gen MGS4.

I gess that is your opinion. 360 has 2x more A, AA and AAA games than PS3. That is a fact

PS3 has the best exclusive this gen that's a fact. Ps3 is reliable that's a fact. PS3 doesn't have a rip-off online service that's a fact.

Sorry...thats just your opinion. In my opinion halo3 is better than MGS4

Sorry that's just your opinion. In the opinion of GS MGS4=10> any 360 exclusive. So we're on GS and we can take that as a fact. And it's not my opinion 360 has a high failure rate, and is unreliable it's a fact. And paying 50 bucks AKA getting ripped off for an online service that's free everywhere else is not my opinion it's a fact.

Sorry that's just your opinion. In the opinion of GS MGS4=10> any 360 exclusive. So we're on GS and we can take that as a fact. And it's not my opinion 360 has a high failure rate, and is unreliable it's a fact. And paying 50 bucks AKA getting ripped off for an online service that's free everywhere else is not my opinion it's a fact.knight-k

so 1 game that's AAAA is better than multiple AAA? that would seem to be opinion. as far as the failure rate goes. yes, at launch, the 360 had an abnormally high failure rate, and a lot of consumers got burned by it. however, new chips are making this less and less of a problem, and microsoft took proactive steps to remedy the situation. when my PS2 collapsed from a DRE, i don't remember sony coming to my rescue. as far as XBL being a rip off, well, that once again is your opinion. many users who have both (like myself) feel that the streamlined operation and increased robustness over PSN is more than worth the $50 per year.

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Sorry that's just your opinion. In the opinion of GS MGS4=10> any 360 exclusive. So we're on GS and we can take that as a fact. And it's not my opinion 360 has a high failure rate, and is unreliable it's a fact. And paying 50 bucks AKA getting ripped off for an online service that's free everywhere else is not my opinion it's a fact.clone01

so 1 game that's AAAA is better than multiple AAA? that would seem to be opinion. as far as the failure rate goes. yes, at launch, the 360 had an abnormally high failure rate, and a lot of consumers got burned by it. however, new chips are making this less and less of a problem, and microsoft took proactive steps to remedy the situation. when my PS2 collapsed from a DRE, i don't remember sony coming to my rescue. as far as XBL being a rip off, well, that once again is your opinion. many users who have both (like myself) feel that the streamlined operation and increased robustness over PSN is more than worth the $50 per year.

I love when cows state things such as that. I mean no doubt MGS seems like a great game, but far from over taking multiple games that are AAA and that have sold millions each.

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Sorry that's just your opinion. In the opinion of GS MGS4=10> any 360 exclusive. So we're on GS and we can take that as a fact. And it's not my opinion 360 has a high failure rate, and is unreliable it's a fact. And paying 50 bucks AKA getting ripped off for an online service that's free everywhere else is not my opinion it's a fact.clone01

so 1 game that's AAAA is better than multiple AAA? that would seem to be opinion. as far as the failure rate goes. yes, at launch, the 360 had an abnormally high failure rate, and a lot of consumers got burned by it. however, new chips are making this less and less of a problem, and microsoft took proactive steps to remedy the situation. when my PS2 collapsed from a DRE, i don't remember sony coming to my rescue. as far as XBL being a rip off, well, that once again is your opinion. many users who have both (like myself) feel that the streamlined operation and increased robustness over PSN is more than worth the $50 per year.

LOL but microsoft had to drop that fee for their computer live service......because i guess hermits are soo much smarter then lemmings are..........they refused to pay for the service........but lemmings keep defending it on console......lol

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Sorry that's just your opinion. In the opinion of GS MGS4=10> any 360 exclusive. So we're on GS and we can take that as a fact. And it's not my opinion 360 has a high failure rate, and is unreliable it's a fact. And paying 50 bucks AKA getting ripped off for an online service that's free everywhere else is not my opinion it's a fact.Syn_Valence

so 1 game that's AAAA is better than multiple AAA? that would seem to be opinion. as far as the failure rate goes. yes, at launch, the 360 had an abnormally high failure rate, and a lot of consumers got burned by it. however, new chips are making this less and less of a problem, and microsoft took proactive steps to remedy the situation. when my PS2 collapsed from a DRE, i don't remember sony coming to my rescue. as far as XBL being a rip off, well, that once again is your opinion. many users who have both (like myself) feel that the streamlined operation and increased robustness over PSN is more than worth the $50 per year.

LOL but microsoft had to drop that fee for their computer live service......because i guess hermits are soo much smarter then lemmings are..........they refused to pay for the service........but lemmings keep defending it on console......lol

most do not defend beign forced to pay for Live. but they'll play it to continue gaming with their friends on the best online console service on earth.

So...nothing to really knock there.

I agree with TC.PS3 needs a little bit more time.Its sales have already exceeded Xbox360`s in Europe.Soon it will be Asia and than all over.

And btw PS3 is the only system to have AAAAe so far !! That rocks.

I look at it this way. Any gamer who owns a 360 and not a PS3 is missing MGS4. The game was great, but its time has come and passed. nobody plays it anymore. If you own a PS3 only, you're missing out on a ton of fantastic games simply because you think Sony pwns. I'm no fanboy, but as a gamer it just seems more reasonable to be a lemming. Millennium_King

if you're going to be a fanboy, why not be a fanboy of the best gaming console available? that would be the Xbox 360 for now.

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Sorry that's just your opinion. In the opinion of GS MGS4=10> any 360 exclusive. So we're on GS and we can take that as a fact. And it's not my opinion 360 has a high failure rate, and is unreliable it's a fact. And paying 50 bucks AKA getting ripped off for an online service that's free everywhere else is not my opinion it's a fact.Syn_Valence

so 1 game that's AAAA is better than multiple AAA? that would seem to be opinion. as far as the failure rate goes. yes, at launch, the 360 had an abnormally high failure rate, and a lot of consumers got burned by it. however, new chips are making this less and less of a problem, and microsoft took proactive steps to remedy the situation. when my PS2 collapsed from a DRE, i don't remember sony coming to my rescue. as far as XBL being a rip off, well, that once again is your opinion. many users who have both (like myself) feel that the streamlined operation and increased robustness over PSN is more than worth the $50 per year.

LOL but microsoft had to drop that fee for their computer live service......because i guess hermits are soo much smarter then lemmings are..........they refused to pay for the service........but lemmings keep defending it on console......lol

no, i'd certainly prefer it to be free. however, most of my friends are on live, and PC gaming really doesn't interest me that much. i'm simply stating that, compared to PSN, which is also completely functional, i don't mind paying the money for the extra features and better interface.

I consider Xbox360 a 6.5 generation console, thier early release left the thing loaded with old technology. Facts are that the PS3 has consistenly outsold the 360 on average monthly sales, but some people are just hanging on to that lead. To me, I dont care who "wins", but I do consider the PS3 more valuable and a TRUE 7th-gen system. Yes, I own both.ThisCurse

The RSX has a 550 MHz clock speed. Does this 10% clock speed lead over the Xenos GPU necessarily mean that the PlayStation 3 GPU is more powerful than the Xbox 360 GPU? We won't believe it until we see it, but if true, how is it possible that the PlayStation 3 can output two 1080p video streams simultaneously? That makes the RSX sound more powerful than the Xenos...

Bob Feldstein: No! These are inconsequential numbers that don't reflect any reality concerning the system performance. The 1080p streams have no bearing on understanding system performance, and the clock speed means little.

Realize that the memory bandwidth is the bottleneck of graphics systems. ATI's Intelligent Memory provides an almost infinite bandwidth path to memory - meaning that the Unified Shaders will never be stifled in getting work to do. The Sony processor is going to come up against memory bandwidth limitations constantly, negating any small clocking differential.

The Sony 1080p dual outputs are not an indication of performance - at best 1080p is an indication that Sony considered this resolution the sweet spot of the market. The use case of dual 1080p just shows that the RSX has a PC pedigree, and has been cobbled together with the console.

I'd also like to add that the Xbox 360 uses the triple-core IBM designed Xenon as its CPU, which at that time.. dual cores were'nt even out yet! so, yes.. I would say that the tech in the 360 back then *WAS* state of the art! & you could also add/remove the 360's hard drive with the ease of a click of a button! when has that ever been done with a console!

Sorry that's just your opinion. In the opinion of GS MGS4=10> any 360 exclusive. So we're on GS and we can take that as a fact. And it's not my opinion 360 has a high failure rate, and is unreliable it's a fact. And paying 50 bucks AKA getting ripped off for an online service that's free everywhere else is not my opinion it's a fact.knight-k

[QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

well cows did say that as soon as the ps3 came out it would kill the 360 in every way, games, graphics, and sales

if they can talk @#$#% why can't lems

knight-k

true. At the end, PS3=360 but with less games ;)

Pls no PS3 is not 360. Because PS3 doesn't Fail as much as 360, (1) doesn't have a rip-off online service and (2) has the best game this gen MGS4.

(1) Qore makes you pay for game demos, interviews and content that xboxers get for free. $25 a year for demos and game trailers is horrible.

(2) Only if gamespot = god. Its not even the highest rated PS3 game on metacritic and game rankings, let alone this gen.

As a gamer, I don't care who's on first and what's on second. Just what games I can play on a particular console.

And the whole MGS4 being AAAA - pffft, since 360 has so many AA's;

Two AA's > One AAAA !

V.P. 2 & ToV > MGS4. j/k a lil bit. :P

[QUOTE="knight-k"][QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

well cows did say that as soon as the ps3 came out it would kill the 360 in every way, games, graphics, and sales

if they can talk @#$#% why can't lems

PAL360

Scores mean nothing, opinions of gamers are what matter, not paid journalists.

true. At the end, PS3=360 but with less games ;)

Pls no PS3 is not 360. Because PS3 doesn't Fail as much as 360, doesn't have a rip-off online service and has the best game this gen MGS4.

I gess that is your opinion. 360 has 2x more A, AA and AAA games than PS3. That is a fact