X360 fans lashing out at MS for what it seems an upcoming anti-consumer feature.

"No more 3rd party storage for you" said Major nelson in his blog.. which received a large number of angry comments from fans.

but what x360 fans here think about this move? support / angry / indifferent?

MS blocking 'unauthorized' 360 storage devices

Major Nelson has warned that next week's 360 update will see the BLOCKING of 'unauthorized' Xbox 360 storage devices. By this we think he means unofficial hard-drives and also Datel's memory unit but time will tell.

Here's exactly what the Major said at his online blog:

[quote="majornelson"]

When Preview Program members start receiving the Xbox 360 system update next week, one of the changes is that unauthorized Memory Units will no longer work with the Xbox 360.

If you've moved your profile or saved games onto one to "back it up," you'd better move it back onto an authorized Xbox 360 storage device prior to taking the update.

If you continue to use an unauthorized Memory Unit after the update, you will not be able to access your stored profile or saved games.

If you need help identifying officially licensed Xbox 360 storage devices or accessories you can read more about the licensed accessories program on Xbox.com

majornelson.com

maxconsole

maxconsole.net

P.S. as usual, apologies if old.

How Eviiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiil :o

Those "number" of consumers are probably pirates and modders.

That's how it goes...people knew who they were dealing with when the bought the price of admission.

I mean, if I'm seriously trying to bypass my console to use external cheaper memory, and using Datel's device to circumvent the console...maybe I should reconsider what I'm doing. Maybe I should become a multiconsole owner at that point.

i had the sata adaptor that allowed you to use your pc as your hdd but quit using it almost 2 years ago

Should lower the price of their HDD.

That's how it goes...people knew who they were dealing with when the bought the price of admission.

I mean, if I'm seriously trying to bypass my console to use external cheaper memory, and using Datel's device to circumvent the console...maybe I should reconsider what I'm doing. Maybe I should become a multiconsole owner at that point.

SolidTy

good idea!

Should lower the price of their HDD.

SpinoRaptor24

No need or incentive too...

They got a lot more marketshare this time!!!!

*Maniacal laughter heard*

Hahahahahahaha!

Besides, most of you won't even fill up a quarter gb.Cookigaki

Not true. We've seen map packs, expansions and other types of content only available via DL, and most of them are well over 100mb.

My 20GB HDD is nearing its limit and with some upcoming DLC I have to download, I might need to purchase a larger HDD.

Should lower the price of their HDD.

SpinoRaptor24

I agree, they keep their expensive and blcok any others. They are monopolizing their own hard drives. Total rip off.

[QUOTE="Cookigaki"]Besides, most of you won't even fill up a quarter gb.SpinoRaptor24

Not true. We've seen map packs, expansions and other types of content only available via DL, and most of them are well over 100mb.

My 20GB HDD is nearing its limit and with some upcoming DLC I have to download, I might need to purchase a larger HDD.

I think MS's pricing on accesories is mindboggingly stupid.

Why would anybody use third party storage devices? Why would anybody need it, 360 comes with a ton of memory, and the HDDs as well. I didn't even know there were third-party storage devices.enterawesome

This sounds like a joke and a half. So the 360 is now recieveing "updates" that take away from the functionailty of the system? This is going to cause alot of annoyance, and I doubt it will last.

I don't like this at all.

I'm definately not going to defend this

Microsoft are too restrictive with plug and play devices, alternative media centres andpropriety formats for the Xbox360.

I want more options and choices other then what devices they provide or approve-I'm looking at you Wireless adaptor, lack of MP4, FTP between USB devices..

I actually hope Sony or Apple really push their respective platforms or console's multimedia functions to really stand out to really kick MS upside the head.

The PS3is a waaayyy bettermultimedia device then the Xbox360 and for a good reason as it's more open and flexible.

I also hope Apple gets more involved in the gaming industry to really shake up MS.

MS needs to do better then this cr*p if they want to win the Living room.

Buy a PS3

I think MS's pricing on accesories is mindboggingly stupid.

heretrix

I understand why they do it as a lot of the money is made from software, services and accessories.

However I am miffed if they take out features from a console I already paid for and then get me to pay for it later on if they implement it.

I don't care about lease agreements or that stuff and consumers needn't have to worry about that stuff everytime they have to purchase something or have an army of laywers to explain to them the lease agreements.

It just creates an unfriendly image on Microsoft's part and it's just MS's way of monopolising the platform environment.

Just like Windows E.U. forced MS to ship Windows 7 without I.E. that's good because more importantly you were given a choice to use other programs on the O.S.

Buy a PS3

POPEYE1716

I have a PS3, a Wii and gaming home entertainment PC.

No fanboyism and no joking aside What I really do hate is when people are taken away their choice.

"No more 3rd party storage for you" said Major nelson in his blog.. which received a large number of angry comments from fans.

but what x360 fans here think about this move? support / angry / indifferent?

[quote="maxconsole"]

MS blocking 'unauthorized' 360 storage devices

Major Nelson has warned that next week's 360 update will see the BLOCKING of 'unauthorized' Xbox 360 storage devices. By this we think he means unofficial hard-drives and also Datel's memory unit but time will tell.

Here's exactly what the Major said at his online blog:

[quote="majornelson"]

When Preview Program members start receiving the Xbox 360 system update next week, one of the changes is that unauthorized Memory Units will no longer work with the Xbox 360.

If you've moved your profile or saved games onto one to "back it up," you'd better move it back onto an authorized Xbox 360 storage device prior to taking the update.

If you continue to use an unauthorized Memory Unit after the update, you will not be able to access your stored profile or saved games.

If you need help identifying officially licensed Xbox 360 storage devices or accessories you can read more about the licensed accessories program on Xbox.com

majornelson.com

Mystery_Writer

maxconsole.net

P.S. as usual, apologies if old.

[QUOTE="Cookigaki"]Besides, most of you won't even fill up a quarter gb.SpinoRaptor24

Not true. We've seen map packs, expansions and other types of content only available via DL, and most of them are well over 100mb.

My 20GB HDD is nearing its limit and with some upcoming DLC I have to download, I might need to purchase a larger HDD.

I'm right there too buddy!

I've already filled a 20gb HDD, and am filling my 120 GB fast with HD content Games, Demos, video and DLC!

That was fine I use a XSata device to store and backup the Xbox360 on my PC

If anyone knows about NAS devices and home movies will know what I'm talking about.

I use a Lynkisis Media Hub and currently have close to 900GB of private home use Movies, music and PC backups on it.

A 2 TB external HD to backup the NAS device and the PCs and other multimedia devices around the house.

It is very very hadny to access any of the Storage devices on the network and stream movies from them

Now they want to close of certain Storage devices off from the Xbox360 and am forced to pay for their overpriced storage devices.

[QUOTE="Cookigaki"]Besides, most of you won't even fill up a quarter gb.SpinoRaptor24

Not true. We've seen map packs, expansions and other types of content only available via DL, and most of them are well over 100mb.

My 20GB HDD is nearing its limit and with some upcoming DLC I have to download, I might need to purchase a larger HDD.

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

"No more 3rd party storage for you" said Major nelson in his blog.. which received a large number of angry comments from fans.

but what x360 fans here think about this move? support / angry / indifferent?

[quote="maxconsole"]

MS blocking 'unauthorized' 360 storage devices

Major Nelson has warned that next week's 360 update will see the BLOCKING of 'unauthorized' Xbox 360 storage devices. By this we think he means unofficial hard-drives and also Datel's memory unit but time will tell.

Here's exactly what the Major said at his online blog:

[quote="majornelson"]

When Preview Program members start receiving the Xbox 360 system update next week, one of the changes is that unauthorized Memory Units will no longer work with the Xbox 360.

If you've moved your profile or saved games onto one to "back it up," you'd better move it back onto an authorized Xbox 360 storage device prior to taking the update.

If you continue to use an unauthorized Memory Unit after the update, you will not be able to access your stored profile or saved games.

If you need help identifying officially licensed Xbox 360 storage devices or accessories you can read more about the licensed accessories program on Xbox.com

majornelson.com

tok1879

maxconsole.net

P.S. as usual, apologies if old.

I see exactly what they are doing and I am an ardent supporter of the Xbox360, but this is beyond game consoles.

It is about consumer choice and it's just another one of their monopolistic tactics.

It's stifle competition, innovation, creativity and just createsa bad image.

This is pretty serious for me, if MS continues this I will speak with my wallet and get only DLC for the PS3 or PC and only use the Xbox360 for it's exclusives games.

There is a reason why a lot of X360 fans are lashing out and this simply isn't funny on MS's part.

I think MS's pricing on accesories is mindboggingly stupid.

heretrix

People are even stupider and keep buying them.

Are we really going to try and dress up a decent attempt to stop piracy and modding as an attack on the consumer? Really?Ninja-Hippo

Well it's notreally an attack on the consumer, but it is a poor attempt at stopping piracy. For one thing people found a way to manipulate the 360 in the first place in order to allow for piracy, and I'm pretty sure they can get around this. The easiest way to get around it would be to not be connected to the internet. What I'm worried about is what do they mean by unauthorized storage devices? Does this apply to all devices for all files or just for profiles and such?

People gave up any right to complain when they adopted a closed platform like a console.

It is "their" system, not yours. If they don't want you to do something on it they have every right to stop you.

Those "number" of consumers are probably pirates and modders.

Blue-Sky

And this is why I only buy first party accesories for my game systems. Sure they may cost more, but they're guaranteed to work and they will never not be supported. I still have my 20GB HDD from my original 360 and when I do upgrade eventually I was already planning on buying the official HDD anyway so I don't really care if they stop support for third party storage devices.

[QUOTE="Cookigaki"]Besides, most of you won't even fill up a quarter gb.SpinoRaptor24

Not true. We've seen map packs, expansions and other types of content only available via DL, and most of them are well over 100mb.

My 20GB HDD is nearing its limit and with some upcoming DLC I have to download, I might need to purchase a larger HDD.

Wow, what a ridiculous thing. That sucks majorly.... but I guess Bill Gates is super rich for a reason.MethodManFTW

[QUOTE="MethodManFTW"]Wow, what a ridiculous thing. That sucks majorly.... but I guess Bill Gates is super rich for a reason.SpruceCaboose

People gave up any right to complain when they adopted a closed platform like a console.

It is "their" system, not yours. If they don't want you to do something on it they have every right to stop you.

AnnoyedDragon

I am well aware of that.

They lease the console to you.

People however have not given up the right to complain, they are however given up the right to abuse or modify the device in their own way.

No one has actually the right to take away people's rights to complain- the very first ammendment.

However this does create aBAD relationship with sellers and consumers. It's what MS has been getting in trouble for many years about.

They work to create an Image , choice and trust and then they get rid ofthat bycircumventing it under the guise of security issues and piracy.

Anyway I am glad that E.U. has challenged MS's monopolistic methods by keepin the O.S. open and free to choose other programs and I'm also glad that China is really forcing MS to lower their prices, compete more and actually accept alternatives and not just sit on their laurels because of the rampant piracy and knock offs.

Anyway after what is all said and done it's up to consumers to vote with their wallets, pirates to keep MS honest and to be able to choose alternatives.

i.e.

Apples' O.S. and Macs, Sony's PS3, Linux Ubuntu, Google Chrome, Google Wave.

The reason why I'm also miffed is because I just got done watching the documentary "Who killed the electric car" and I can draw quite a few parrallels with this.

Microsoft killed choice.

Those "number" of consumers are probably pirates and modders.

Blue-Sky

This is bad huh? How about when a console maker releases a new system where you have to re-buy all your hardcopy game via digital format in order to play them on said new system? MS is trying to carve out the pirates. Sony just flat our screwed over everyone who invested into the PSP for the last 4 years.

How do I feel? I emailed Xbox support my feelings on this. Never saw the point of starting a thread here about a problem I have with a console maker. I take the problem to them. I said, I enjoy many of your products and features but your storage pricing and policy against 3rd party storage is ridiculous. I have historically bought 3rd party games for 360 but as my space dwindles and I can upgrade my PS3 storage for a about the same price and 4 times the space, I may be moving my purchases to where I can fit them. Be interesting to see if I get a response.cainetao11

It's Microsoft using their underhanded tactics again and it is anti-consumer.

No ability to choose!

I thought MS was sincere in changing their image a bit and create better relations with consumers when they entered the gaming market, but it seems to me

Microsoft are rearing that all too familiar ugly head and they are fat and bloated.LOL being a bit dramatic here.

Anyway I think it's actually good news the way Windows 7 is being handled in China.

It actually really pushes MS to be worth their weight and work to becompetitive.

It does not make much sense to do this mid generation

its kicking alot of consumers in the nuts

a workaround would be to only hvae this feature on new models of the 360 or simply wait till the next generation

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="MethodManFTW"]Wow, what a ridiculous thing. That sucks majorly.... but I guess Bill Gates is super rich for a reason.MethodManFTW

[QUOTE="cainetao11"]How do I feel? I emailed Xbox support my feelings on this. Never saw the point of starting a thread here about a problem I have with a console maker. I take the problem to them. I said, I enjoy many of your products and features but your storage pricing and policy against 3rd party storage is ridiculous. I have historically bought 3rd party games for 360 but as my space dwindles and I can upgrade my PS3 storage for a about the same price and 4 times the space, I may be moving my purchases to where I can fit them. Be interesting to see if I get a response.AdmiralBison

It's Microsoft using their underhanded tactics again and it is anti-consumer.

No ability to choose!

I thought MS was sincere in changing their image a bit and create better relations with consumers when they entered the gaming market, but it seems to me

Microsoft are rearing that all too familiar ugly head and they are fat and bloated.LOL being a bit dramatic here.

Anyway I think it's actually good news the way Windows 7 is being handled in China.

It actually really pushes MS to be worth their weight and work to becompetitive.

This is bad huh? How about when a console maker releases a new system where you have to re-buy all your hardcopy game via digital format in order to play them on said new system? MS is trying to carve out the pirates. Sony just flat our screwed over everyone who invested into the PSP for the last 4 years.

Demetri_OS

[QUOTE="MethodManFTW"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Seeing as Bill Gates is not really with MS anymore....SpruceCaboose

This is bad huh? How about when a console maker releases a new system where you have to re-buy all your hardcopy game via digital format in order to play them on said new system? MS is trying to carve out the pirates. Sony just flat our screwed over everyone who invested into the PSP for the last 4 years.

Demetri_OS