X360 have 4 AAAE's this year (if gta iv EFLC will get AAA score )

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#51 Floppy_Jim
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we all know that GTA LAD is an AAA game if GS was review it, but now this game have

a secend chance to get an AAA score with gta iv episodes from liberty city, if the pack will be AAA, its proof that LAD is an AAA game.

and dont give me the "bu but its only DLC" becuse LAD is a 10h gameand thatslong then most of the full games that release this year (KZ2, HALO ODST, U2 and more).

so this year the 360 have 4 AAAE's:

HALO ODST
FORA 3
GTA IV LAD
GTA IV BOGT

thats not so bad after all

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No, EFLC is one game (or two expansions) and it's not reviewed yet. Just admit defeat and look forward to 2010.

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#52 PAL360
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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"][QUOTE="aaronmullan"]

Lemmings are grasping for as many straws at they can this year. Counting both of the games in the GTA collection? Nah.

ZoomZoom2490

Well I guess the PS3 has two GUARANTEED AAAE's coming out next month. These little games called God of War and God of War II, have already been scored! GOW received a 9.3 and GOWII received a 9.2! Sweet deal guys, 2 AAAEs in one box!

i dont see why not, since halo 3 is just halo 1 and 2 in high def.

lol.....sony fanboys dont even try any more!!!!

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#53 110million
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[QUOTE="idontbeliveit"]

That's seriosuly grasping for straws man. Still though, it's not impressive that over half of the 360's AAAs this year come from expansions.

ZoomZoom2490
i keep telling em that, but they dont listen. forza3 is the only aaae game this year so far, its a fact.

Expansions count, because many expansions, have as much content as a whole game, it doesn't matter if ODST does or not, but thats why expansions count in general.
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#54 ZoomZoom2490
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"] i keep telling em that, but they dont listen. forza3 is the only aaae game this year so far, its a fact.Racer850

The fact that you called Halo 3 ODST DLC makes you lose some credit when it's on a disc.

Yep the truth hurts, forza 3 and halo 3 ODST make it 2 AAAEs.

ok i get it.

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#55 devilsoultaker2
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HALO ODST FORA 3 Episodes from Liberty City L4D 2 thats 4 AAA games for the 360
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#56 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Eh... no. You can't count both.
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HALO ODST FORA 3 Episodes from Liberty City L4D 2 thats 4 AAA games for the 360devilsoultaker2

L4D2 isn't rated yet.

At least you didn;t call it exclusive :P

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[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"][QUOTE="idontbeliveit"]

That's seriosuly grasping for straws man. Still though, it's not impressive that over half of the 360's AAAs this year come from expansions.

110million

i keep telling em that, but they dont listen. forza3 is the only aaae game this year so far, its a fact.

Expansions count, because many expansions, have as much content as a whole game, it doesn't matter if ODST does or not, but thats why expansions count in general.

halo3 and halo3 odst both use the same name "HALO 3" in the beggining so therefore it cant be viewed as two completely different games.. Halo Reach is another story, that i wont argue, you see, they are just facts.

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#59 PAL360
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HALO ODST FORA 3 Episodes from Liberty City L4D 2 thats 4 AAA games for the 360devilsoultaker2

We dont know GTA EfLC and L4D2 scores yet. Still yeah, they will probably get AAA

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#60 Hahadouken
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[QUOTE="ThePRAssassin"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

Wait, what? You're counting GTA twice? BOGT is within Episodes from Liberty City--that is, if you're going to count LAD, since Gamespot isn't going to review LAD (it came out early 2009)

Stevo_the_gamer

Which is stupid. They reviewed Pinnacle Station, the atrocious DLC for Mass Effect.

They had a policy which restricted them from reviewing DLC back when LAD came out.

Policy schmolicy. They didn't have the staff to cover it.
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#61 ZoomZoom2490
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HALO ODST FORA 3 Episodes from Liberty City L4D 2 thats 4 AAA games for the 360devilsoultaker2
1 aaa game 3 expansion games
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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"][QUOTE="aaronmullan"]

Lemmings are grasping for as many straws at they can this year. Counting both of the games in the GTA collection? Nah.

comeonthehoops
Well I guess the PS3 has two GUARANTEED AAAE's coming out next month. These little games called God of War and God of War II, have already been scored! GOW received a 9.3 and GOWII received a 9.2! Sweet deal guys, 2 AAAEs in one box!

That compilation won't count for anything here in System Wars. Two HD remakes of last gen games with the same gameplay =/= an exclusive PS3 title. I can play them on a PS2, so they don't count.

It's a joke. I'm just seeing if I can reach even more than the guys claiming two expansion packs as two separate "AAAE"s.
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#63 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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so therefore it cant be viewed as two completely different gamesZoomZoom2490
Yes, it can. Quite easily, actually. It has more (or as much) -original- content than games like Heavenly Sword or Mirror's Edge, two games that have always been considered "games". The name is not a reason not to do it with ODST.
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ELFC won't count for two....
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#65 deactivated-59da85d821feb
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[QUOTE="devilsoultaker2"]HALO ODST FORA 3 Episodes from Liberty City L4D 2 thats 4 AAA games for the 360ZoomZoom2490
1 aaa game 3 expansion games

Wow. :| By that logic Killzone 2, Uncharted 2 and Forza 3 are expansions. If Left 4 Dead 2, a sequel, is an expansion, then so is every other sequel.
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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"][QUOTE="comeonthehoops"][QUOTE="Hahadouken"] Well I guess the PS3 has two GUARANTEED AAAE's coming out next month. These little games called God of War and God of War II, have already been scored! GOW received a 9.3 and GOWII received a 9.2! Sweet deal guys, 2 AAAEs in one box!

That compilation won't count for anything here in System Wars. Two HD remakes of last gen games with the same gameplay =/= an exclusive PS3 title. I can play them on a PS2, so they don't count.

It's a joke. I'm just seeing if I can reach even more than the guys claiming two expansion packs as two separate "AAAE"s.

Oh, haha. In my defence, I have seen a lot of cows try and claim that the God of War compilation will count as an exclusive here :P
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#67 rolo107
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Why are Cow's hated so much? I Find all fanboy's are equal.

Also, welcome To GS, LAD doesn't count in SW.

SolidTy

Because of their extraneous number.

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#68 mitu123
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Why are Cow's hated so much?

SolidTy

Look at their recent threads...

And posts.

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[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"] i keep telling em that, but they dont listen. forza3 is the only aaae game this year so far, its a fact.ZoomZoom2490

Expansions count, because many expansions, have as much content as a whole game, it doesn't matter if ODST does or not, but thats why expansions count in general.

halo3 and halo3 odst both use the same name "HALO 3" in the beggining so therefore it cant be viewed as two completely different games.. Halo Reach is another story, that i wont argue, you see, they are just facts.

But they're not the same games. :|
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#70 Hahadouken
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Why are Cow's hated so much?

mitu123

Look at their recent threads...

And posts.

The same could certainly be said for lemmings. Sheep and hermits have been eating popcorn and watching.

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[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"][QUOTE="devilsoultaker2"]HALO ODST FORA 3 Episodes from Liberty City L4D 2 thats 4 AAA games for the 360comeonthehoops
1 aaa game 3 expansion games

Wow. :| By that logic Killzone 2, Uncharted 2 and Forza 3 are expansions. If Left 4 Dead 2, a sequel, is an expansion, then so is every other sequel.

No, not really. Even by his stunted logic, not only does KZ2 not use the same engine as KZ1, is isn't even available on the same PLATFORM. If we're going to be ridiculous, let's at least be accurate. ;)
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#72 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Why are Cow's hated so much?

Hahadouken

Look at their recent threads...

And posts.

The same could certainly be said for lemmings. Sheep and hermits have been eating popcorn and watching.

You realize there are more cows than lems right, look at the threads.

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#73 def_mode
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DLC's or expansion packs should not count towards the list of AAA games.

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#74 SpiritOfFire117
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DLC's or expansion packs should not count towards the list of AAA games.

def_mode
But two of those games should. ;)
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DLC's or expansion packs should not count towards the list of AAA games.

def_mode
They've always been counted by PC gamers, why should it change now?
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#76 mitu123
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DLC's or expansion packs should not count towards the list of AAA games.

def_mode

Please be specific, because half of the PC's AAAEs are expansion packs, look at the WOW expansions, LOL.

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DLC shouldn't count as a full retail game sorry. But both side will do anything to try and 1up each other, so they don't feel owned.

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DLC shouldn't count as a full retail game sorry. But both side will do anything to try and 1up each other, so they don't feel owned.

2beers_in_hand
Um, that DLC is on a retail disk. And has more content than most full priced games.
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#79 def_mode
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[QUOTE="def_mode"]

DLC's or expansion packs should not count towards the list of AAA games.

mitu123

Please be specific, because half of the PC's AAAEs are expansion packs, look at the WOW expansions, LOL.

Oh, I am not talking about expansion packs in PC, Yes WOW releases expansions but are stand alone expansions. LAD requires the GTA4 Disc. Sorry for not being clear.
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[QUOTE="def_mode"]

DLC's or expansion packs should not count towards the list of AAA games.

comeonthehoops

They've always been counted by PC gamers, why should it change now?

Because it's not a full game. If anything the DLC debate should stay within the confinesof Livevs PSN argument.

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#81 DoomZaW
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Why are Cow's hated so much? I Find all fanboy's are equal.

Also, welcome To GS, LAD doesn't count in SW.

SolidTy

I haven't found lemmings complaining about the difference between 9.3 and 9.5 on GT, or signing petition pledging square enix to keep FFXIII exclusive, so while you can say that all fanboys are stupid, cows are definitely the worst

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#82 def_mode
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[QUOTE="2beers_in_hand"]

DLC shouldn't count as a full retail game sorry. But both side will do anything to try and 1up each other, so they don't feel owned.

Stevo_the_gamer
Um, that DLC is on a retail disk. And has more content than most full priced games.

DLC is a DLC. meaning additional content. They are not fully separated game, they are still an extension of GTA4.
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[QUOTE="def_mode"] DLC is a DLC. meaning additional content. They are not fully separated game, they are still an extension of GTA4.

It's called a "Stand-Alone Expansion". Are you trying to tell me ODST and Crysis Warhead don't count merely because they're "extensions" of Crysis and Halo 3?
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#84 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="def_mode"]

DLC's or expansion packs should not count towards the list of AAA games.

def_mode

Please be specific, because half of the PC's AAAEs are expansion packs, look at the WOW expansions, LOL.

Oh, I am not talking about expansion packs in PC, Yes WOW releases expansions but are stand alone expansions. LAD requires the GTA4 Disc. Sorry for not being clear.

Actually, you don't:

"Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City delivers two games on one disc – the all-new episode The Ballad of Gay Tony and the first episode, The Lost and Damned – together on disc for the first time – for Xbox 360 for $US39.99 and will not require a copy of the original Grand Theft Auto IV to play."

Unless you count LAD seperate from the disc.

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How can some lemms say that Halo3 ODST is Halo 4 and that the new GTA4 dlc is GTA5?

i just dont get it, is it the lack of new ip's and exclusives? maybe.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="def_mode"] DLC is a DLC. meaning additional content. They are not fully separated game, they are still an extension of GTA4.

It's called a "Stand-Alone Expansion". Are you trying to tell me ODST and Crysis Warhead don't count merely because they're "extensions" of Crysis and Halo 3?

You are having a hard time understanding what I am trying to say. ODST is not a DLC of some sort, LAD is and it requires GTA4 to run. In my opinion it should not count towards the list of AAA. If you want them counted, in a different category, like in a DLC category but not in the level of full games. Lets say Ballad on Gay Tony got a 9.5 It does not automatically means Ballad of Gay Tony = Uncharted 2. That is not how games should be rated.
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#87 mitu123
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How can some lemms say that Halo3 ODST is Halo 4 and that the new GTA4 dlc is GTA5?

i just dont get it, is it the lack of new ip's and exclusives? maybe.

ZoomZoom2490

ODST is set in Halo 2 and the GTA expansions are in the same timeline as GTA4.

I don't remember Lems saying that.

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#88 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

How can some lemms say that Halo3 ODST is Halo 4 and that the new GTA4 dlc is GTA5?

i just dont get it, is it the lack of new ip's and exclusives? maybe.

Why was Halo 3 called Halo 2.5 or Halo 2 HD back when? Love how these things change. :|
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#89 def_mode
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[QUOTE="def_mode"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Please be specific, because half of the PC's AAAEs are expansion packs, look at the WOW expansions, LOL.

mitu123

Oh, I am not talking about expansion packs in PC, Yes WOW releases expansions but are stand alone expansions. LAD requires the GTA4 Disc. Sorry for not being clear.

Actually, you don't:

"Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City delivers two games on one disc – the all-new episode The Ballad of Gay Tony and the first episode, The Lost and Damned – together on disc for the first time – for Xbox 360 for $US39.99 and will not require a copy of the original Grand Theft Auto IV to play."

Unless you count LAD seperate from the disc.

Whatever, in my opinion they shouldnt be rated but I dont care, its Gamespot's decisions. I am a big GTA4 fan but whatever.
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You are having a hard time understanding what I am trying to say. ODST is not a DLC of some sort, LAD is and it requires GTA4 to run. In my opinion it should not count towards the list of AAA. If you want them counted, in a different category, like in a DLC category but not in the level of full games. Lets say Ballad on Gay Tony got a 9.5 It does not automatically means Ballad of Gay Tony = Uncharted 2. That is not how games should be rated.def_mode

You must have missed Mitu's post, here just in case if you missed it:

Actually, you don't

"Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City delivers two games on one disc – the all-new episode The Ballad of Gay Tony and the first episode, The Lost and Damned – together on disc for the first time – for Xbox 360 for $US39.99 and will not require a copy of the original Grand Theft Auto IV to play."

Unless you count LAD seperate from the disc.

mitu123

Episodes from Liberty City counts whether you like it or not. It's a stand alone expansion, avaliable via retail, and holds more content than most full priced games. Exactly what I stated previously.

Whatever, in my opinion they shouldnt be rated but I dont care, its Gamespot's decisions. I am a big GTA4 fan but whatever.def_mode
Why shouldn't they be rated?

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#91 blackace
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Lemmings are grasping for as many straws at they can this year. Counting both of the games in the GTA collection? Nah.

aaronmullan
Well, cows have been playing catch up for the past 2 years. It was bad enough it took almost 2 years to finally get a AAAE game out the door and it wasn't even created by Sony. That's sad. Yeah.. the Xbox 360 didn't have a lot of AAAE this year, but it still had a LOT of great games and even better XBLA games. Lemmings are very satified this year and year will even be better with Natal (+ exclusive games) and Halo: Reach.
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[QUOTE="def_mode"]You are having a hard time understanding what I am trying to say. ODST is not a DLC of some sort, LAD is and it requires GTA4 to run. In my opinion it should not count towards the list of AAA. If you want them counted, in a different category, like in a DLC category but not in the level of full games. Lets say Ballad on Gay Tony got a 9.5 It does not automatically means Ballad of Gay Tony = Uncharted 2. That is not how games should be rated.Stevo_the_gamer

You must have missed Mitu's post, here just in case if you missed it:

Actually, you don't

"Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City delivers two games on one disc – the all-new episode The Ballad of Gay Tony and the first episode, The Lost and Damned – together on disc for the first time – for Xbox 360 for $US39.99 and will not require a copy of the original Grand Theft Auto IV to play."

Unless you count LAD seperate from the disc.

mitu123

Episodes from Liberty City counts whether you like it or not. It's a stand alone expansion, avaliable via retail, and holds more content than most full priced games. Exactly what I stated previously.

Okay, I understand. They'll be great games but I do not think they'll get AAA.
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Okay, I understand. They'll be great games but I do not think they'll get AAA.def_mode
You think they shouldn't be rated and/or counted, I'm confused to why that you think such--can mitu and I hear your reasoning for this? :?
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#94 def_mode
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]

Lemmings are grasping for as many straws at they can this year. Counting both of the games in the GTA collection? Nah.

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Well, cows have been playing catch up for the past 2 years. It was bad enough it took almost 2 years to finally get a AAAE game out the door and it wasn't even created by Sony. That's sad. Yeah.. the Xbox 360 didn't have a lot of AAAE this year, but it still had a LOT of great games and even better XBLA games. Lemmings are very satified this year and year will even be better with Natal (+ exclusive games) and Halo: Reach.

Fanboys are desperate really, if you missed it a fanboy wanted to call L4D2 AAACE.
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#95 def_mode
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[QUOTE="def_mode"]Okay, I understand. They'll be great games but I do not think they'll get AAA.Stevo_the_gamer
You think they shouldn't be rated and/or counted, I'm confused to why that you think such--can mitu and I hear your reasoning for this? :?

It doesnt matter really, I just don't think they should.
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#96 12345678ew
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LMAO. 3 on that list are expansions. kz2's campaign lasted 10 hours, but what made it a game, was the online. you cannot pass those as games, and the 360 failed horribly this year. and flopza? fantastic.... i can't wait to see the sales on that thing.... i bet they're horribly. probably lower than GT5P
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#97 mgkennedy5
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Only on Gamespot, and I only use Gamerankings lol. I only think Forza 3 is the AAAE game for 360 this year
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#98 thelastguy
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Both of the games are on EFLC, I would imagine the would be counted as one game

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LMAO. 3 on that list are expansions. kz2's campaign lasted 10 hours, but what made it a game, was the online. you cannot pass those as games, and the 360 failed horribly this year. and flopza? fantastic.... i can't wait to see the sales on that thing.... i bet they're horribly. probably lower than GT5P12345678ew
Flopza? It got 9.5 and is the best racer this gen, and one of the best of all time. I'd like to see GT5 outscore it here.
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#100 thelastguy
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To everyone saying that EFLC should not count:

You do not need the GTA IV to play the game, so why should it not be counted?