XBLA vs PSN "Arcade" (Reality check)

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#51 PrinceofSarcasm
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[QUOTE="PrinceofSarcasm"]

[QUOTE="-M117-"]

you left out XBLA? XBLA and COmmunity games are two different things.

Either way, your bending the rules to minimize the shame :lol: . This is XBLA vs PSN only.

-M117-

the ability to open up an Internet browser is a network feature of PlayStation

gimme a break. your seeing the numbers of PSN small downloadable titles paling in comparison so you call the reinforcements from the internetz!

please........

I see what games a ps3 has the ability to play when connected to a network when price is not a factor in comparison to what the xbox can offer when connected to a network also with price not as a factor.

what playstion can do with a network > what xbox can do with a network

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#52 Gxgear
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[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="-M117-"]

Again, your bending the rules.

Yes they are part of PSN but you knew what i meant. PSN games as in smaller downloadables like what XBLA offers.

-M117-

What are these arbitrary rules that you speak of?

So you're saying XBLA > PSN if a good portion of what PSN offers is not considered in comparison? It doesn't really make any sense to me.

When people do XBLA and PSN comparisons, its assumed it is a level playing field. AKA we only compare the smaller downloadable titles, nothing more.

You're comparing the contents of 2 different online services for their each respective consoles. If you're going to specify the criteria so that it makes XBLA look better then why even bother with it in the first place?

Let me get this straight, you're saying: "Hey guys let's compare the games on XBLA and PSN, but let's use the XBLA standard to what qualifies and what doesn't"

Change the topic to "XBLA > PSN if you take out half of PSN's offerings" then. I think that's a more accurate description of what you're going for here.

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#53 deactivated-652663614c5e5
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[QUOTE="-M117-"]

[QUOTE="idontbeliveit"][QUOTE="-M117-"]

theres a difference.

your opinion means little as your just a random poster.

Gamespots opinion is law in system wars.

Get it????????

yeah now lems say GS's opinion is law. but then wen GS reviews a game like Halo Wars and gives it a 6.5 then all lems jump and say "GS dont know how to review games, besides its AA on metacritic/gamerankings, one review site means little".

WRONG

we accept gamespots review but to call the game garbage on the whole is silly. We only reference metacritic to show cows that the game isnt totally regarded in the way gamespot says so.

trust me, not all of you accept their reviews, i can name some people but sometimes i get modded and i dont even know wat for. besides, why do you think its silly to call it garbage? if GS says its garbage then by your logic halo wars is garbage because GS says so, and "GSs opinion is law in system wars". im not saying i think this but sometimes using other review sites are regarded as damage controlling.
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#55 -M117-
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[QUOTE="-M117-"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

What are these arbitrary rules that you speak of?

So you're saying XBLA > PSN if a good portion of what PSN offers is not considered in comparison? It doesn't really make any sense to me.

Gxgear

When people do XBLA and PSN comparisons, its assumed it is a level playing field. AKA we only compare the smaller downloadable titles, nothing more.

You're comparing the content of 2 different online services for their each respective consoles. If you're going tospecify criteria so that is makes XBLA look better then why even bother with it in the first place?

Change the topic to "XBLA > PSN if you take out half of PSN's offerings" then. I think that's a more accurate description of what you're going for here.

1. Click on the PS3 homepage

2. CLick on the PSN sub heading

3. Scroll down and click on "Browse all games"

WHERE DOES THE LIST SHOW PS1 GAMES?????????Cause thats where I got these numbers from.

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#56 PrinceofSarcasm
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[QUOTE="idontbeliveit"][QUOTE="-M117-"]

theres a difference.

your opinion means little as your just a random poster.

Gamespots opinion is law in system wars.

Get it????????

-M117-

yeah now lems say GS's opinion is law. but then wen GS reviews a game like Halo Wars and gives it a 6.5 then all lems jump and say "GS dont know how to review games, besides its AA on metacritic/gamerankings, one review site means little".

WRONG

we accept gamespots review but to call the game garbage on the whole is silly. We only reference metacritic to show cows that the game isnt totally regarded in the way gamespot says so.

point proven :roll:

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#57 PrinceofSarcasm
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[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="-M117-"]

When people do XBLA and PSN comparisons, its assumed it is a level playing field. AKA we only compare the smaller downloadable titles, nothing more.

-M117-

You're comparing the content of 2 different online services for their each respective consoles. If you're going tospecify criteria so that is makes XBLA look better then why even bother with it in the first place?

Change the topic to "XBLA > PSN if you take out half of PSN's offerings" then. I think that's a more accurate description of what you're going for here.

1. Click on the PS3 homepage

2. CLick on the PSN sub heading

3. Scroll down and click on "Browse all games"

WHERE DOES THE LIST SHOW PS1 GAMES?????????Cause thats where I got these numbers from.

click on the psn network store. go to downloadable games, click ps1. Thats where I see ps1 on psn

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#58 Gxgear
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[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="-M117-"]

When people do XBLA and PSN comparisons, its assumed it is a level playing field. AKA we only compare the smaller downloadable titles, nothing more.

-M117-

You're comparing the content of 2 different online services for their each respective consoles. If you're going tospecify criteria so that is makes XBLA look better then why even bother with it in the first place?

Change the topic to "XBLA > PSN if you take out half of PSN's offerings" then. I think that's a more accurate description of what you're going for here.

1. Click on the PS3 homepage

2. CLick on the PSN sub heading

3. Scroll down and click on "Browse all games"

WHERE DOES THE LIST SHOW PS1 GAMES?????????Cause thats where I got these numbers from.

Get your sources right then, I'm pretty certain someone was kind enough to point it out earlier.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_Network_games

Feel free to add the full versions of the PS3 games and the PSP games, since technically they've been made available in PSN.

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#59 Nike_Air
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I checked over at Gamerankings for AAA and AA. (games that aren't on each others service - you may be able to play them elsewhere). I think I got em all.

  1. Braid - AAA
  2. Geometry Wars 2 - AAA
  3. Peggle Deluxe
  4. Portal Still Alive
  5. Rez HD
  6. Geometry Wars
  7. Ikaruga
  8. BomberMan Live
  9. Pac-Man Championship Edition
  10. Catan
  11. N+
  12. Castle Crashers
  13. Sonic 2
  14. Uno
  15. Marble Blast Ultra
  16. Cloning Clyde
  17. Duke Nukem 3D

-

  1. Wipout HD
  2. Flower
  3. Super StarDust HD
  4. Warhawk
  5. PixelJunk Monsters
  6. EveryDay Shooter
  7. Echochrome
  8. Tekken 5 DR
  9. Lumines Supernova
  10. PixelJunk Eden
  11. Cuboid

The PSN has less , butit has some really good originals in there. Arcade has a lot of ports/remakes/sequels.

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#60 NinjaMunkey01
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I like PSN downloadable games more in some ways.

whilst PSN does have less games highly rated, it also has less games, id like to see a ratio of good to bad games...

but also as PSN does not have a cap on DL games it means you get PROPER games for download, which will always be better than little £5 games which last around 2 hours.

Gmaes like wipeout HD, warhawk, SOCOM and burnour paradise. I mean can you really say braid is better than warhawk? I cant... its close to lying...

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#61 PrinceofSarcasm
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I checked over at Gamerankings for AAA and AA. (games that aren't on each others service - you may be able to play them elsewhere). I think I got em all.

  1. Braid - AAA
  2. Geometry Wars 2 - AAA
  3. Peggle Deluxe
  4. Portal Still Alive
  5. Rez HD
  6. Geometry Wars
  7. Ikaruga
  8. BomberMan Live
  9. Pac-Man Championship Edition
  10. Catan
  11. N+
  12. Castle Crashers
  13. Sonic 2
  14. Uno
  15. Marble Blast Ultra
  16. Cloning Clyde
  17. Duke Nukem 3D

-

  1. Wipout HD
  2. Flower
  3. Super StarDust HD
  4. Warhawk
  5. PixelJunk Monsters
  6. EveryDay Shooter
  7. Echochrome
  8. Tekken 5 DR
  9. Lumines Supernova
  10. PixelJunk Eden
  11. Cuboid

The PSN has less , butit has some really good originals in there. Arcade has a lot of ports/remakes/sequels.

Nike_Air

where be pain and them others :o

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#62 FragTycoon
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Get your sources right then, I'm pretty certain someone was kind enough to point it out earlier.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_Network_games

Feel free to add the full versions of the PS3 games and the PSP games, since technically they've been made available in PSN.

Gxgear

I apparent that the TC has little to no experience with PSN at this point.

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#63 gamefan274
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Yeah but paying the extra $50 turns me off. I don't think many doubt that XBLA market place is better than what PSN has but both are nearly equal in features and that extra $50 for cross chat and some AAA game kinda balance each other out. (I am looking at online as a whole)
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#64 Ultramarine777
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[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="-M117-"]

Again, your bending the rules.

Yes they are part of PSN but you knew what i meant. PSN games as in smaller downloadables like what XBLA offers.

-M117-

What are these arbitrary rules that you speak of?

So you're saying XBLA > PSN if a good portion of what PSN offers is not considered in comparison? It doesn't really make any sense to me.

When people do XBLA and PSN comparisons, its assumed it is a level playing field. AKA we only compare the smaller downloadable titles, nothing more.

LOL I pity you kid.

Its pretty obvious your a desperate lemming but from what I have seen in your posts is that your really desperate to try and convince others.:o

First of all you try to argue in another topic saying 360 had better exclusives titles and you failed so this is what you have come to? LOL ARCADE GAMES

EPIC FAIL TRY AGAIN :D

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#65 -M117-
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[QUOTE="-M117-"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

What are these arbitrary rules that you speak of?

So you're saying XBLA > PSN if a good portion of what PSN offers is not considered in comparison? It doesn't really make any sense to me.

Ultramarine777

When people do XBLA and PSN comparisons, its assumed it is a level playing field. AKA we only compare the smaller downloadable titles, nothing more.

LOL I pity you kid.

Its pretty obvious your a desperate lemming but from what I have seen in your posts is that your really desperate to try and convince others.:o

First of all you try to argue in another topic saying 360 had better exclusives titles and you failed so this is what you have come to? LOL ARCADE GAMES

EPIC FAIL TRY AGAIN :D

360 has better exclusives. On gamespot or metacritic.com.

And downloadable games need love too, dont downplayjust cause they arent retail :P

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#66 Gxgear
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[QUOTE="Ultramarine777"]

[QUOTE="-M117-"]

When people do XBLA and PSN comparisons, its assumed it is a level playing field. AKA we only compare the smaller downloadable titles, nothing more.

-M117-

LOL I pity you kid.

Its pretty obvious your a desperate lemming but from what I have seen in your posts is that your really desperate to try and convince others.:o

First of all you try to argue in another topic saying 360 had better exclusives titles and you failed so this is what you have come to? LOL ARCADE GAMES

EPIC FAIL TRY AGAIN :D

360 has better exclusives. On gamespot or metacritic.com.

And downloadable games need love too, dont downplayjust cause they arent retail :P

MGS4 says hi.

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#67 obamanian
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As I said in the other thread, it all evens out. Both have quality exclusives which you can't find on the other console. I can't play Castle crashers on the Ps3, I can't play Wipeout on the 360. Was a new thread worth it btw? Why not respond in the other thread...killerfist

Well, they don't, 360 has a big 2D RPG coming to XBLA, this one should easilly be better for me than all PSN and XBLA games combined

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#68 Toriko42
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lets see what all review sites say in general instead of taking one sites as fact.

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This is Gamespot, not reviewsitesingeneral.com
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#69 PrinceofSarcasm
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[QUOTE="PrinceofSarcasm"]

lets see what all review sites say in general instead of taking one sites as fact.

Toriko42

This is Gamespot, not reviewsitesingeneral.com

So this is gamespot. Doesn't change the fact that you cant make a good argument without more then one opinion

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Halo, Ninja Gaiden, Burnout Takedown, Braid, Geometry Wars, Castle Crashers, Fable > Everything PSN has to offer

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#71 seannn199
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tc fails hard

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I dont care about ratings PSN has the better exclusive games the 360 no matter what numbers you throw up there. When 2.70 firmware comes out LIVE=DIVE and PSN will be king and its FREE. Ratings mean nothing all it is is someones opinion.
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Halo, Ninja Gaiden, Burnout Takedown, Braid, Geometry Wars, Castle Crashers, Fable > Everything PSN has to offer

PurpleHaze89
Epic Fail.
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I dont care about ratings PSN has the better exclusive games the 360 no matter what numbers you throw up there. When 2.70 firmware comes out LIVE=DIVE and PSN will be king and its FREE. Ratings mean nothing all it is is someones opinion.djsifer01

Why is it the people that have the low rated games always say that? Sorry if the reality of XBLA being better then PSNoobs is to hard for you to accept..

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#75 AlphaGamer469
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[QUOTE="PurpleHaze89"]

Halo, Ninja Gaiden, Burnout Takedown, Braid, Geometry Wars, Castle Crashers, Fable > Everything PSN has to offer

djsifer01

Epic Fail.

Awm come on, I'm sure all of the cows agree with your pathetic attempts at argument...

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#76 pamplinas322
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Dint xbl won an emmy or something? Both psn and xbl have great games.
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[QUOTE="PurpleHaze89"]

Halo, Ninja Gaiden, Burnout Takedown, Braid, Geometry Wars, Castle Crashers, Fable > Everything PSN has to offer

djsifer01
Epic Fail.

More like Win to me. :P
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#78 laterdayfilms
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Umm... Pixel Junk Monster is better than anything on the XBLA! lol.....Not really but I love it.

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EDIT: I thought cows were smarter and knew that this is a Arcade vs Sony "Arcade" comparison only, not a LIVE vs PSN comparison. Guess they proved me wrong :P

Unlike opinions, which we all have, lets see what Gamespot thinks (I assure you sites like Metacritic will paint a similar picture).

*****These numbers are all taken directly from gamespot and all accessable by everyone*****.

XBLA

A = 27

AA = 21

AAA = 3

PSN

A = 20

AA = 9

AAA = 0

Sorry, if all you have is your opinion, then good for you. Otherwise, XBLA is still king over PSN.......by far.

-M117-
These are all opinion :?. To get technical by System War's rules, you make a fair argument. It's a shame that PSN has no AAA arcade games :|. It's seriously ridiculous Gamespot!
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#80 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Its relatively a given fact that XBL is better in all catagories.
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#83 Ross_the_B0SS
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"if anyone in sw wants to ever try making a good, logical, defend-able argument then they will look at more then just gamespots scores"

Hm you didn't seem to think that when the Halo Wars review came out:

Hahaha a .5 diff away from haze.

HAZE vs HALO

which is better

PrinceofSarcasm

[QUOTE="papi_lekker"]

before you play halo wars, remember to put aside all the pc rts in your head. than play the game, and you will realize that halo wars is setting a new bar for console rts. the controls are nearly

perfect, the graphics are insanly good for an rts on a console, the gameplay is fast fun and easy to pick up. the units play awesome,have superb animations and all have secondairy powers. than

you have the awesome story line, as pointed out, and the very cool cg cutscenes. multiplayer rts on consoles, with a whole halo theme thrown over it. this game plays

so differently than a rts on pc would. they are allmost like a different categories. its just downstraight stupid to give this game a 6.5, a game that opens up the console rts on a new level

PrinceofSarcasm

the gs gamespot reviews who have played many games say otherwise:P

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26787152&page=35

Yay for hypocrisy?

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#84 AlphaGamer469
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[QUOTE="-M117-"]

EDIT: I thought cows were smarter and knew that this is a Arcade vs Sony "Arcade" comparison only, not a LIVE vs PSN comparison. Guess they proved me wrong :P

Unlike opinions, which we all have, lets see what Gamespot thinks (I assure you sites like Metacritic will paint a similar picture).

*****These numbers are all taken directly from gamespot and all accessable by everyone*****.

XBLA

A = 27

AA = 21

AAA = 3

PSN

A = 20

AA = 9

AAA = 0

Sorry, if all you have is your opinion, then good for you. Otherwise, XBLA is still king over PSN.......by far.

Episode_Eve

These are all opinion :?. To get technical by System War's rules, you make a fair argument. It's a shame that PSN has no AAA arcade games :|. It's seriously ridiculous Gamespot!

no, the fact cows are trying to convince anyone PSN games are better is ridiculous...

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#85 -Melix-
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Its relatively a given fact that XBL is better in all catagories.sSubZerOo

It NOT a FACT, its a OPINION!!!!

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#86 Gxgear
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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="-M117-"]

EDIT: I thought cows were smarter and knew that this is a Arcade vs Sony "Arcade" comparison only, not a LIVE vs PSN comparison. Guess they proved me wrong :P

Unlike opinions, which we all have, lets see what Gamespot thinks (I assure you sites like Metacritic will paint a similar picture).

*****These numbers are all taken directly from gamespot and all accessable by everyone*****.

XBLA

A = 27

AA = 21

AAA = 3

PSN

A = 20

AA = 9

AAA = 0

Sorry, if all you have is your opinion, then good for you. Otherwise, XBLA is still king over PSN.......by far.

AlphaGamer469

These are all opinion :?. To get technical by System War's rules, you make a fair argument. It's a shame that PSN has no AAA arcade games :|. It's seriously ridiculous Gamespot!

no, the fact cows are trying to convince anyone PSN games are better is ridiculous...

Hmmm did a cowmake this thread? Gosh where do lemmings come from these days if they can't even read.

It's called action-reaction. Someone voices an opinion you're guaranteed to receive opposing opinions, which was TC's intention all along.

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#87 SpinoRaptor24
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I dont care about ratings PSN has the better exclusive games the 360 no matter what numbers you throw up there. When 2.70 firmware comes out LIVE=DIVE and PSN will be king and its FREE. Ratings mean nothing all it is is someones opinion.djsifer01

Now where have I heard this before...

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#88 Euroshinobi
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XBLA i prefer, but some psn titles are ok

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#89 deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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still could change with the dirt cheap dev kits being sold by sony
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#90 Luigi_Vincetana
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As someone who owns a PS3 but not a 360 I have to say XBLA is a lot better then the PSN store. If you throw in Xbox Originals too then there's no competition. The real argument is Wiiware + VC (including the recently launched VCA) vs XBLA + XBO.
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#91 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="-M117-"]

[QUOTE="PrinceofSarcasm"]

ps3s browser = playing all web flash games = win

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XBLA community games evens that out. Dont get me started with those. Theres like 200 of them now.

millions of internet flash games + psn games < then 200 xbl games

millions of flash games + all the steam arcade games > xbl arcade >psn arcade
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#92 imprezawrx500
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Your missing the downloadable PS3, and PS1 games. They are availlable at the PSN store therefore PSN has more games than XBLA.

And thats excluding PSP games.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_Network_games

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so over 1200 games on steam vs maybe 200 on psn, plus plenty of old ones once ps3 has all it's games available on psn store then you might have an argument. The ps1 games are an advantage but few ps3 games are available.
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#93 wooooode
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I dont understand why this is an argument, they both have great games but the 360 has a couple better than anything found on the PS3 with Braid and Castle Crashers, but Fat Princess may sway it a little.