XBONE privacy concerns absurd...?

When will people acknowledge that you can turn it off?

I dont think people are understanding concerns its not about Microsoft spying or governments, its the fact anything connected to the internet can be hacked, so a camera that good with capabilities as good as the kinect, hackers will be able to hack and use it, that's the big worry

I can't believe the amount of stupid in this thread.

You can turn kinect off, you can un-plug kinect.

Stop being so goddam paranoid, not everyone on this earth wants to watch you eat cheetos and masturbate. The fact that you are on this forum and have been internet browsing for a while means that any information someone could have wanted is already out there.

There are no privacy concerns, just Sony fanboys who want something to whine about.

"with capabilities as good as kinect"

they can see you and hear you, just like with any other camera. I don't see how its ability to track body movements would be beneficial to a hacker.

Have you ever had a webcam or another console camera? (PS eye, Xbox 360 camera, Kinect1)

How many times were they hacked? No one, and I repeat, NO ONE is going to be able to hack through MS and back to your individual xbox to watch whatever it is that you are doing. And if someone did have the skills to do that, there would be a reason, what the hell are you doing that has a professional hacker coming after you?

It doesn't matter if they do or don't... people just don't want them having access to do so in the first place.... of course they wont care to do so but why make it that way in the first place? If you want people watching you have sex there's amature sites for that.

Your completely right, why would hackers want to?? because they can and it's a challenge, seriously a lad in the UK hacked the pentagon just for the sake of it, people hack other peoples computers to see the webcam,

Kinect1 and the ps eye were optional, Xbox One Kinect2 is mandatory. It's not about why would anyone hack it, it's knowing the fact that it could be hacked and knowing that people (more government and advertisers.) could be watching, which is creepy in itself, also with this new phase it's becoming more and more big brother than ever before and that worries people, the fact is people will watch you work out what you eat and drink, and advertise more on them types of thing, not sinister in the slightest just creppy

Look....(sorry for the length)

My issue with Kinect 2 stems from something it seems many here can't distinguish. There's a huge, HUGE difference between someone passively gathering information about you, and someone aggressively attaining it. I have no cameras in my place and will never have cameras in my place. And not because I'm embarrassed or ashamed. Yes, my iPhone has a tiny one but so what? They can stare at my ugly mug staring at the screen as I surf the web for hours for all I care, and at any other time they can get a view of the inside of my pocket or it'll look like a movie Paul Greengrass is directing.

Has anyone actually paid attention to the capabilities the Kinect 2 has? It's not just a camera. It can read facial bone structure to attempt to determine age and identity, IR signatures to ascertain pulse, it tracks body motion, and it's able to count how many people are in the room. It always listens and is able to distinguish different voices from one another. Hell, forget privacy for a second and think on the potential negative ramifications to gaming and consumer rights some of those features bring to light.

Now I don't know about the rest of you, but **** all if I'm allowing something like that within 100 miles of my room. Actually, I find it outright insulting that MS believes people would be OK with this and mandate it a requirement to the system. How incredibly arrogant.

Anyway, back to the difference I mentioned between active and passive info: anything I do and put on the Internet or out in the world I am willingly allowing. Clicking the mouse, downloading and uploading, and viewing webpages, and walking outside is my unofficial consent to gather my info. But being required to have a camera that I don't want staring into my living room at all times just to have the damn system feels incredibly invasive and insidious. A sleazy Segway. I won't do it. Privacy must be sacrificed somewhat to live, especially in today's information age, but there's a line I simply won't cross. And there's quite a large difference between my name being on a list with a million others on some server somewhere as opposed to full on video footage, sound, and my fucking IR signature of me being taken from inside my home.

Are you guys insane?

Whether it's just going to be used to throw more McDonald or Dorito ads my way when my pulse quickens upon viewing an ad (I wish that were a joke) is really irrelevant to the issue, it's on principle alone that I won't allow it. But also keep in mind a camera in your home is game to the whole world, not just MS. The whole world. In the end, an article I read sums up my feelings perfectly, and to those who can't understand the paranoia and think the fuss over it is absurd, you should have no trouble with this scenario whatsoever:

"I've already heard the argument that if you have nothing to hide then you shouldn't have a problem with this feature. To the people saying this, I have one request: let me put a webcam and mic in your bed/living room that has a direct link to my computer that you cannot turn off or obscure. I promise not to watch you. Maybe."

You wouldn't care? Fine. I do, and it's not at all silly or unwarranted to feel such so don't attempt to make me out to be some Orwellian conspiracy nutcase. It's actually a bit frightening how nonchalant some people are when it comes to their privacy.

I think it's silly to worry that MS will spy on what clothes you're wearing while gaming or what you eat while watching Netflix but then be totally ok to hop on your Windows PC and

- enter your banking and credit card info to buy stuff and view your accounts

- feed it all your passwords for any website you visit

- have access to every website you visit and person you contact and email you send

- and if you work for a company, funnel private legal and business data through Outlook

... all while possibly having a webcam with microphone pointed at you. Silly to me that the console is the one people are freaking out about.

So far while in front of Kinect I've : masturbated, picked and ate a scab, picked my nose (didnt eat), beat my dog and checked if I sharted.

Pretty sure the NSA crooked me off the list.

cows, complain about privacy with a video game camera, then broadcast themselves raping their wifes and having a dog give them oral SMH

It's just something for the cows to cry and complain about. Same as when the complain about batteries for the controller. They'll sit there bitch and complain for hours about something they never had plans on getting in the 1st place.

Necro'd thread,congrats to the new alt for bumping it

It is just one more thing to complain about from a company it is trendy to hate. It isn't a real problem. If it is stated by someone as a real problem, then as you stated they are already compromised.

Does Kinect have one of those Ultra Violet light scanners that picks up blood and human excretions? If it does and they decided to spy on me occasionally...hell, sometimes I would be glowing.

@awaboy said:

@jer_1 said:

@superclocked said:

@Krelian-co said:

so you are saying they are already trying to crush our privacy then we should go fuk it and give them full access with a spy cam included. OK....

Im not an international drug dealer, just someone who thinks i dont have to give up my privacy because im not doing anything bad and should help a company to install spycams on my house.

Well said

I will not allow this kind of crap in my home in its current state. Microsoft is about to go data mine all their customers and likely hand whatever they find right to the NSA should they ask. Luckily there's a lot of people who completely reject this idea such as myself.

And me

And me

I don't worry about it. Technology can be used for good and ill... take fire for example. You can cook yummy food, or you can burn up a forest. But just because of the bad aspects, I can't deny myself the good aspects. People just want to complain about Microsoft, and Kinect is just an easy way to do that.

Doh, didnt realize it was a necro.

@gggoodboy said:

@awaboy said:

@jer_1 said:

@superclocked said:

@Krelian-co said:

so you are saying they are already trying to crush our privacy then we should go fuk it and give them full access with a spy cam included. OK....

Im not an international drug dealer, just someone who thinks i dont have to give up my privacy because im not doing anything bad and should help a company to install spycams on my house.

Well said

I will not allow this kind of crap in my home in its current state. Microsoft is about to go data mine all their customers and likely hand whatever they find right to the NSA should they ask. Luckily there's a lot of people who completely reject this idea such as myself.

And me

And me

So why are you still on the internet?