Xbox 360 11 million sales ahead of PS3 in US

[QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"] 2 million ahead, 8 million RROD...hmmm...... plus they had a year and a half head start. truly LOLtormentos

Who ever thinks that there hasn't been a few million 360 re-buys is lieing to them self,the console has a 3 year warranty,which by now has run out on many million of 360 out there,the unit is 6 years old,all consoles manufacture or sold on nov 2005,2006,2007 and 2008,are out of warranty now,if the unit fails is buy a new 360,or sell your games for almost noting to get a PS3,which isn't and option.

everyone knows but those who are into sales figures just like forgetting about this since it wouldnt help their claims/statements/post or whatever they want to prove..

i'm one of those who had to buy a second 360, so MS sold 2 x 360's but in terms of install base they only have 1 :)

(Note:- I dont regret getting a 2nd 360 since I wouldnt have enjoyed the likes of Geow & Forza)

[QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"] 2 million ahead, 8 million RROD...hmmm...... plus they had a year and a half head start. truly LOLtormentos

Who ever thinks that there hasn't been a few million 360 re-buys is lieing to them self,the console has a 3 year warranty,which by now has run out on many million of 360 out there,the unit is 6 years old,all consoles manufacture or sold on nov 2005,2006,2007 and 2008,are out of warranty now,if the unit fails is buy a new 360,or sell your games for almost noting to get a PS3,which isn't and option.

But PS3 breaks too and has far less guarantee, so it evens out

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"] 2 million ahead, 8 million RROD...hmmm...... plus they had a year and a half head start. truly LOLloosingENDS

Who ever thinks that there hasn't been a few million 360 re-buys is lieing to them self,the console has a 3 year warranty,which by now has run out on many million of 360 out there,the unit is 6 years old,all consoles manufacture or sold on nov 2005,2006,2007 and 2008,are out of warranty now,if the unit fails is buy a new 360,or sell your games for almost noting to get a PS3,which isn't and option.

But PS3 breaks too and has far less guarantee, so it evens out

NO it doesnt, failure rates are not on the same level.. but this is something we'll never know since MS & Sony wont release a figure of how many systems were re-buys etc.. (and also why should they, since for them a sale is a sale)

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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

Who ever thinks that there hasn't been a few million 360 re-buys is lieing to them self,the console has a 3 year warranty,which by now has run out on many million of 360 out there,the unit is 6 years old,all consoles manufacture or sold on nov 2005,2006,2007 and 2008,are out of warranty now,if the unit fails is buy a new 360,or sell your games for almost noting to get a PS3,which isn't and option.

Malta_1980

But PS3 breaks too and has far less guarantee, so it evens out

NO it doesnt, failure rates are not on the same level.. but this is something we'll never know since MS & Sony wont release a figure of how many systems were re-buys etc.. (and also why should they, since for them a sale is a sale)

They are not, but the guarantee is not the same too, so it evens out

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

But PS3 breaks too and has far less guarantee, so it evens out

loosingENDS

NO it doesnt, failure rates are not on the same level.. but this is something we'll never know since MS & Sony wont release a figure of how many systems were re-buys etc.. (and also why should they, since for them a sale is a sale)

They are not, but the guarantee is not the same too, so it evens out

But PS3 breaks too and has far less guarantee, so it evens out

loosingENDS

No when the PS3 fail rate was rumor to be 10% compare to the 360 more than 50%.

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

But PS3 breaks too and has far less guarantee, so it evens out

tormentos

No when the PS3 fail rate was rumor to be 10% compare to the 360 more than 50%.

Only both those numbers are 100% fake of course

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

But PS3 breaks too and has far less guarantee, so it evens out

loosingENDS

No when the PS3 fail rate was rumor to be 10% compare to the 360 more than 50%.

Only both those numbers are 100% fake of course

Numbers seem pretty good to me.

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

No when the PS3 fail rate was rumor to be 10% compare to the 360 more than 50%.

tenaka2

Only both those numbers are 100% fake of course

Numbers seem pretty good to me.

Good but fake, do you have a link with actual proof ? Because i could say PS3 failure rate is 99%, but would that mean anything

99 is pretty good too, but that does not make it real

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

No when the PS3 fail rate was rumor to be 10% compare to the 360 more than 50%.

tenaka2

Only both those numbers are 100% fake of course

Numbers seem pretty good to me.

Good but fake, do you have a link with actual proof ? Because i could say PS3 failure rate is 99%, but would that mean anything

99 is pretty good too, but that does not make it real

Only both those numbers are 100% fake of course

loosingENDS

Say you.most fail rates are base on survey,but many hints of high 360 fail rates came from inside the own market,hell IGN once stated that if the fail rate was based on the units they have,the fail rate would be 100%,because all the consoles they had failed at one point of another,the fail rate on 360 was so bad,that all old units will RROD at least once in their life,if you have a fat 360,no matter what model it will RROD eventually.

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Only both those numbers are 100% fake of course

tormentos

Say you.most fail rates are base on survey,but many hints of high 360 fail rates came from inside the own market,hell IGN once stated that if the fail rate was based on the units they have,the fail rate would be 100%,because all the consoles they had failed at one point of another,the fail rate on 360 was so bad,that all old units will RROD at least once in their life,if you have a fat 360,no matter what model it will RROD eventually.

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Only both those numbers are 100% fake of course

ImportBMWRacer

Say you.most fail rates are base on survey,but many hints of high 360 fail rates came from inside the own market,hell IGN once stated that if the fail rate was based on the units they have,the fail rate would be 100%,because all the consoles they had failed at one point of another,the fail rate on 360 was so bad,that all old units will RROD at least once in their life,if you have a fat 360,no matter what model it will RROD eventually.

[QUOTE="Grawse"]

Personally I would have made the topic "Wii 8 million sales ahead of 360 in US"

ConsoleCounsla_

At this point it doesn't matter. Both consoles have sold well over 50 million. The differences between their sales are irrelevant when looking at their markets.

This is not like last gen when the PS2 had a considerable lead. Even with the Wii's larger leader, 50+ million consoles sold for both the 360 and PS3 is quite amazing.

Cool story bro. Year head start, products home country and xbox rebuys would all be factors that contribute to that lead. How far ahead is the ps3 in japan? joel_c17

How many Xbox360 actually work after RROD?hippiesanta

[QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"][QUOTE="Grawse"]

Personally I would have made the topic "Wii 8 million sales ahead of 360 in US"

todd2r

Indeed, it is funny because Battlfiend 3 sold 2.5 million on 360 and 1.5 on PS3, which means that there are far more active buyers on 360

[QUOTE="ImportBMWRacer"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

Say you.most fail rates are base on survey,but many hints of high 360 fail rates came from inside the own market,hell IGN once stated that if the fail rate was based on the units they have,the fail rate would be 100%,because all the consoles they had failed at one point of another,the fail rate on 360 was so bad,that all old units will RROD at least once in their life,if you have a fat 360,no matter what model it will RROD eventually.

p4s2p0

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[QUOTE="DireOwl"]

People also seems to forget that although the PS3 and 360 have about the same amount of units sold, the 360 moves significantly higher amounts of software.

DireOwl

America, and by lurking here on these boards. The only game that I've seen the PS3 sell more in that last couple of months was Dark Souls.

[QUOTE="todd2r"][QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"] it would be more then 8 million if not for RROD and other hardware issues. alot of people just dont like repairing old junk, so they buy it again hoping it works out this time, and when it doesnt, there you have the sales numbersloosingENDS

Indeed, it is funny because Battlfiend 3 sold 2.5 million on 360 and 1.5 on PS3, which means that there are far more active buyers on 360

Cool story bro. Year head start, products home country and xbox rebuys would all be factors that contribute to that lead. How far ahead is the ps3 in japan? joel_c17

Oh, Japan? The place that unfairly chooses to not buy a lot of American products even if they are the superior product on the market for a period of time?

Its pretty silly, that no gamer, calls into question Japan's consumers attitude when the 360 from 2005-2008 could easily have been argued the better platform with better games for the Japanese consumer, yet they act like it never existed. I'm not trying to be pro-360, pro-ps3, pro-anything.

Its one thing that Europeans buy a good amount of 360s but prefer PS3s, and its another thing that Americans buy some PS3s but prefer 360s, but in Japan I can't really explain why the 360 sells so little when it offers so much. Especially when it did offer a good amount of japanese-centered next gen games in the early years of the generation.

Its odd too, when you think about all the Japanese companies trying to make games that appeal to western consumers. I mean, if the Xbox 360 had a more respectable 3rd place in Japan, like 3 million units instead of 1 million, I think this whole thing would be interpreted differently.

I don't know why Japan insists on not buying Xboxs since its a good system that offers plenty of entertainment for their consumers, I know that doesn't make it an outright success, but I hope the dislike for Xbox brand continues to decline next gen (I guess Japanese don't mind American products since they buy Apple stuff all the time)

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[QUOTE="todd2r"] It's nice to see cows resort to the ol' RROD rebuy crap. Maybe someone can explain to me why I've only bought 2 360's and my friend has been through 3 ps3's? All of his ps3's were rebuys. YLOD twice. ConsoleCounsla_

Indeed, it is funny because Battlfiend 3 sold 2.5 million on 360 and 1.5 on PS3, which means that there are far more active buyers on 360

[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="p4s2p0"] LOL here is proof of the latest breakdown. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/repairlabel.jpg/p4s2p0

Pics or it didn't happen. Not that it's impossible for 360s to fail but you claim two slim models have failed with no pics of the console and a shipping label.

Who cares? Its just sales. Neither PS3 or 360 are failing this gen.

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Here comes the herd saying because it is a American company and not noticing the Nintendo numbers. It just seems americans do not care for the PS3. joel_c17

[QUOTE="p4s2p0"][QUOTE="racing1750"] A picture of a repair label? No pic of the 360 itself, no pic of your name alongside of it. Try again and I might just believe you.racing1750

Pics or it didn't happen. Not that it's impossible for 360s to fail but you claim two slim models have failed with no pics of the console and a shipping label.

[QUOTE="joel_c17"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Here comes the herd saying because it is a American company and not noticing the Nintendo numbers. It just seems americans do not care for the PS3. Easyle

Three resistance games and Three killzone games.... they have just as many of those kind of games as MS, Sony's just suck. They should stick to what they do well instead of trying to grab some of MS's shooter pie.

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[QUOTE="p4s2p0"] I only have a flatbed scanner and I lost my id haven't' gotten replacement yet.p4s2p0

Pics or it didn't happen. Not that it's impossible for 360s to fail but you claim two slim models have failed with no pics of the console and a shipping label.

So the consoles both worked :? No RROD and the one of them worked fine after 20-30mins?

..and you cared enough to post a pic of that label, so I'd say you care :)

Cool story bro. Year head start, products home country and xbox rebuys would all be factors that contribute to that lead. How far ahead is the ps3 in japan? joel_c17

Ahh, and again the cows try to combat the fact that 360 has more hardware sold and sells more software (BF3 #s) with assumptions that have no sourced backing. Sure, the 360 had a bigger failure rate than PS3, but there is absolutely no PROOF that millions of 360's were rebuys. And even if they were, doesn't that just show how much people like the console? Cows continue to say these things like "360's always break" or "xbox live is a ripoff" and the truth is that true gamers on 360 just don't care. They know that their console is great and provides them with tons of fun, so they will continue to use it. I myself have a friend who just bought his 3rd 360, not because his old ones broke, but because he wanted a new slim model. On the flipside, when his PS3 disk drive went out, he waited 6 months to get it fixed, because he only buys exclusives on PS3. Everyone has different opinions but cows believe that since Sony was the dominant force in the industry, they owe them their loyalty. Sorry cows, but Sony did not win this gen. They have been playing catch up for 5 YEARS and have still not passed the console that all of you say is garbage. Fact, not opinon.Plagueless

The cows have to be on the offensive all the time because they are behind and in last place. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

[QUOTE="Plagueless"]Ahh, and again the cows try to combat the fact that 360 has more hardware sold and sells more software (BF3 #s) with assumptions that have no sourced backing. Sure, the 360 had a bigger failure rate than PS3, but there is absolutely no PROOF that millions of 360's were rebuys. And even if they were, doesn't that just show how much people like the console? Cows continue to say these things like "360's always break" or "xbox live is a ripoff" and the truth is that true gamers on 360 just don't care. They know that their console is great and provides them with tons of fun, so they will continue to use it. I myself have a friend who just bought his 3rd 360, not because his old ones broke, but because he wanted a new slim model. On the flipside, when his PS3 disk drive went out, he waited 6 months to get it fixed, because he only buys exclusives on PS3. Everyone has different opinions but cows believe that since Sony was the dominant force in the industry, they owe them their loyalty. Sorry cows, but Sony did not win this gen. They have been playing catch up for 5 YEARS and have still not passed the console that all of you say is garbage. Fact, not opinon.crusadernm

The cows have to be on the offensive all the time because they are behind and in last place. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

[QUOTE="Plagueless"]Ahh, and again the cows try to combat the fact that 360 has more hardware sold and sells more software (BF3 #s) with assumptions that have no sourced backing. Sure, the 360 had a bigger failure rate than PS3, but there is absolutely no PROOF that millions of 360's were rebuys. And even if they were, doesn't that just show how much people like the console? Cows continue to say these things like "360's always break" or "xbox live is a ripoff" and the truth is that true gamers on 360 just don't care. They know that their console is great and provides them with tons of fun, so they will continue to use it. I myself have a friend who just bought his 3rd 360, not because his old ones broke, but because he wanted a new slim model. On the flipside, when his PS3 disk drive went out, he waited 6 months to get it fixed, because he only buys exclusives on PS3. Everyone has different opinions but cows believe that since Sony was the dominant force in the industry, they owe them their loyalty. Sorry cows, but Sony did not win this gen. They have been playing catch up for 5 YEARS and have still not passed the console that all of you say is garbage. Fact, not opinon.p4s2p0

The cows have to be on the offensive all the time because they are behind and in last place. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

HUH? I'm talking about the posters here. What does this have to do with MS?

lol I wasn't aware you were a MS share holder TC?

On a realistic note, this whole sales race is a joke now. They are both very neck and neck with each system selling slighlty better than the other in different regions. It doesn't matter.....

That's it. I'm getting rid of my PS3.

Re-buys, fad, rrod, $600, DS.7. That's our 7th generation. Doesn't look good for the future because it's going to be more re-buys again and slightly improved graphical gaming. Yay! But these numbers show that is what we like and want.

Don't buy slightly improved hardware every time it comes out. Moving your body is more fun not in front of the T.V. Don't re-buy the same hardware. Wait for price drops. But this gen is the opposite. The gamer this gen has no personality. " Everyone is doing it!"

[QUOTE="Grawse"]

Personally I would have made the topic "Wii 8 million sales ahead of 360 in US"

ConsoleCounsla_

Quit trolling Cow. My 360 broke 3 times and I haven't paid a penny to get it replaced each time. I'm pissed that the hardware was poor but give microsoft credit in giving free replacements. And don't even bring up the slim, cause if you haven't already noticed there's a PS3 version of that too.

Older models yes, newer ones no. Stop spreading lies.

ImportBMWRacer

Older models yes,the problem is that the majority are older models,maybe you forgot that the slim 360 was introduce last year,so no i am not sprading lies.

Indeed, it is funny because Battlfiend 3 sold 2.5 million on 360 and 1.5 on PS3, which means that there are far more active buyers on 360

loosingENDS

No it means that FPS appeal more on teh xbox brand which has always been the case,unless you have proves of PS3 or even PS2 FPS that sold more than any Halo game,in fact i think the only FPS to out sell Halo or get close to it out side COD,is Golden Eye on N64 which sold 8+ million copies,other than that no other FPS has come close to Halo,does that mean that the xbox with 25 million unist sold had more active users than the 150 million PS2.?

Hell GTA SA sold like 18 million on PS2,the xbox version sold like 2 million or less,yet Halo sold like 8 millions,funny isn't it.

So the consoles both worked :? No RROD and the one of them worked fine after 20-30mins?

..and you cared enough to post a pic of that label, so I'd say you care :)

racing1750

Newer 360 don't RROD,the slim 360 doesn't do that,MS build it that way,so that if the unit has a problem that affect many units ,it doesn't get a wide spread name like RROD,i am sure the next xbox will not have a visual system that identify problems as RROD,it was a fiasco for MS.

1 billion actually prove how bad the problem was,and who knows if they already pass that billion in repeairs and had to inject more money.

In the US, we don't have as much need for dust collection appliances because on average we live in bigger spaces. In a lot of europe and japan, there aren't as many surfaces for dust to build up on, so they get a ps3.