Xbox 360 division loses $31 million

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6208456.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;2

Why is it that when Sony lost all that money all the Xbox fan was doing back flips, dancing in the streets and going buck wild over the news, but now there's a report stating that the 360 division lost $31 mill and now everybody lips a glued shut. I could care less about sales or how much money a company lose because I dont work for them.....but for those that do care....Carma is a MF!

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6208456.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;2

Why is it that when Sony lost all that money all the Xbox fan was doing back flips, dancing in the streets and going buck wild over the news, but now there's a report stating that the 360 division lost $31 mill and now everybody lips a glued shut. I could care less about sales or how much money a company lose because I dont work for them.....but for those that do care....Carma is a MF!

CubanBlunt

31 million huh?

That's a lot better than M$'s Last Gen's 6 BILLION+!

Still, while I don't care too much, it's true, fanboys do seem to laugh and do backflips on Sony's losses, so I guess all fair.

I still am glad to have my 360, it's a fun machine....when it's not RRODing/E74ing. :lol:

Seriously, sales are just an eh, thing for me. :)

Well after entering thi thread I was like 'he's an idiot for not seeing the other 10 threads with the exact same topic title made in the past 24 hours'.

Then I read what you posted and you're just a plain dumb.

I'll just take stuff from the other threads.

The 360 is in the ame division as the Zune, the Zune has yet to make money at any time.

Sony lost somewhere close to 4 billion, 31 million is chump change compared to that.

I could care less about sales or how much money a company lose CubanBlunt

You obviously care enough to create a thread about it. And thereby becoming the same type of fanboy you rail against.

Funny, isn't it? :)

Sony lost somewhere close to 4 billion, 31 million is chump change compared to thatAmbli

[QUOTE="Ambli"]Sony lost somewhere close to 4 billion, 31 million is chump change compared to thatSwift_Boss_A

But Sony went one better and lost all the money they made from the PS2 because of the disaster that is the PS3 lol.

Its for 1 quarter the division itself is in profit for the financial year so its not like its losing money, nor is the company. A slightly different situation. Also the the 360 was picked out as the highlight of the division. Feel free to eake out whatever ownage you can from that I guess.

[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6208456.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;2

Why is it that when Sony lost all that money all the Xbox fan was doing back flips, dancing in the streets and going buck wild over the news, but now there's a report stating that the 360 division lost $31 mill and now everybody lips a glued shut. I could care less about sales or how much money a company lose because I dont work for them.....but for those that do care....Carma is a MF!

Huff

Well after entering thi thread I was like 'he's an idiot for not seeing the other 10 threads with the exact same topic title made in the past 24 hours'.

Then I read what you posted and you're just a plain dumb.

I'll just take stuff from the other threads.

The 360 is in the ame division as the Zune, the Zune has yet to make money at any time.

Sony lost somewhere close to 4 billion, 31 million is chump change compared to that.

Ambli

Yea, you're a kool dude, acting tough behind a computer screen, level 4.......I'm gonna let this one slid!

[QUOTE="Ambli"]Sony lost somewhere close to 4 billion, 31 million is chump change compared to thatSwift_Boss_A

Ok what you dont get I guess is that they lost 31 mill from last year but still made a profit in the same division so it was just a loss of 31 from the year befor so you cant say they lossed anything.

Oh just in case you dont get what im saying ill make this ex for you. Ok lets say they made 131 million last year but this year they lost 31 million from last year but they still make a profit of 100 million.

[QUOTE="Ambli"]Sony lost somewhere close to 4 billion, 31 million is chump change compared to thatSwift_Boss_A

[QUOTE="Ambli"]

Well after entering thi thread I was like 'he's an idiot for not seeing the other 10 threads with the exact same topic title made in the past 24 hours'.

Then I read what you posted and you're just a plain dumb.

I'll just take stuff from the other threads.

The 360 is in the ame division as the Zune, the Zune has yet to make money at any time.

Sony lost somewhere close to 4 billion, 31 million is chump change compared to that.

CubanBlunt

Yea, you're a kool dude, acting tough behind a computer screen, level 4.......I'm gonna let this one slid!

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="Ambli"]Sony lost somewhere close to 4 billion, 31 million is chump change compared to thatLoseEagles1245

[QUOTE="LoseEagles1245"]

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

Yeah because since joining the game industry MS only lost 31 million :| You are away MS has lost 6 billion since starting the Xbox brand back in 2001! 4 billion on Xbox and a further 2 billion in early 360 days. RROD alone cost MS 1 billion so technically MS is not making profit, they are still the red overal in their gaming division! oh btw unlike lemmings I dont jump for joy when a company is bleeding money, I feel quite bad for MS......... lol :PTemp-MLD

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a3phI2nMWxOw&refer=home

Microsoft added 9.4 percent following its smaller-than-forecast profit decline and prediction of bigger cost savings.

The market certainly saw it as good news! Thats a huge jump. Are the cow back flips turning into wails of misery? :P

[QUOTE="Ambli"]

Well after entering thi thread I was like 'he's an idiot for not seeing the other 10 threads with the exact same topic title made in the past 24 hours'.

Then I read what you posted and you're just a plain dumb.

I'll just take stuff from the other threads.

The 360 is in the ame division as the Zune, the Zune has yet to make money at any time.

Sony lost somewhere close to 4 billion, 31 million is chump change compared to that.

CubanBlunt

Yea, you're a kool dude, acting tough behind a computer screen, level 4.......I'm gonna let this one slid!

For one thing.........MS on the whole made a 3 billion profit. And even though its a loss, they probably shipped more 360s then PS3s. Temp-MLD

Well yes, they wouldn't ship a Sony product.:lol:

[QUOTE="Temp-MLD"]For one thing.........MS on the whole made a 3 billion profit. And even though its a loss, they probably shipped more 360s then PS3s. ball_of_air

Well yes, they wouldn't ship a Sony product.:lol:

For one thing.........MS on the whole made a 3 billion profit. And even though its a loss, they probably shipped more 360s then PS3s. Temp-MLD

Well yes, they wouldn't ship a Sony product.:lol:

[QUOTE="Ambli"]Sony lost somewhere close to 4 billion, 31 million is chump change compared to thatSwift_Boss_A

you do realise that MS entire entertainment division (xbox, xbox 360, zune) is actually in the black right? you do realise that MS has been making a profit for every xbox 360 sold since 2006 right? and do you realise that even though RRoD cost them $1 billion, they were able to pay it off in one shot and wrote it off as a quarterly loss and went on the make a profit in the next quarter?

MS makes $75 per xbox 360 sold

MS makes $75 per xbox 360 sold second source

MS entertainment division makes profit

MS entertainment division makes profit link 2

MS entertainment division makes profit link 3

MS writes off $1.15 billion

MS writes off $1.15 billion link 2

btw, regarding MS's "loss", they are not in debt or in the red like sony. instead, it just means that they MADE LESS money than this time last year. but the fact is, they still made money. this time last year, MS earned $4.39 billion. this year, they earned 32% less, or they earned $2.98 billion. see, even though the stock went down, they still made nearly $3 billion.

I'll never get why cows make threads about Sony as a Company and MS as a company , Because MS makes Sony look like a hot dog stand compared to one of the most profitable companies in the world which is MS. Guess cows like to embarass them selves LOL

[QUOTE="ball_of_air"]

[QUOTE="Temp-MLD"]For one thing.........MS on the whole made a 3 billion profit. And even though its a loss, they probably shipped more 360s then PS3s. thegoldenpoo

Well yes, they wouldn't ship a Sony product.:lol:

actually, the loss doesn't have anything to do with the 360 or the entertainment division at all. it was due to low pc sales and higher sales of netbooks that are linux equipped.

link

excerpt:

Microsoft said weakness in the global PC market negatively impacted its results.

edit:

the $31 million loss in the entertainment division could be attributed to the manufacturing and future marketing of the ZuneHD and not the xbox 360.

[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="ball_of_air"]

Well yes, they wouldn't ship a Sony product.:lol:

LoseEagles1245

actually, the loss doesn't have anything to do with the 360 or the entertainment division at all. it was due to low pc sales and higher sales of netbooks that are linux equipped.

link

excerpt:

Microsoft said weakness in the global PC market negatively impacted its results.

edit:

the $31 million loss in the entertainment division could be attributed to the manufacturing and future marketing of the ZuneHD and not the xbox 360.

Its gonna be Crazy in here when Sony post their huge loss for the 1st quarter.X box has been in the black for a long time now,this is the first loss in some time.Sony has been bleeding money all Gen and this quarter will be no different and its loss will be alot more than 31M.Your setting yourselves up for a major backlash.

[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="ball_of_air"]

Well yes, they wouldn't ship a Sony product.:lol:

cowgriller

actually, the loss doesn't have anything to do with the 360 or the entertainment division at all. it was due to low pc sales and higher sales of netbooks that are linux equipped.

link

excerpt:

Microsoft said weakness in the global PC market negatively impacted its results.

edit:

the $31 million loss in the entertainment division could be attributed to the manufacturing and future marketing of the ZuneHD and not the xbox 360.

[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"] Well spotted, i guess people should be careful how they word things :P. On topic, this loss is probably due to the warrenty costs coupled with the fact they lose money on each 360 sold and with their aggressive pricing policy this becomes more pronounced, not sure how they can make a loss with all the sweet LIVE money. rybe1025

actually, the loss doesn't have anything to do with the 360 or the entertainment division at all. it was due to low pc sales and higher sales of netbooks that are linux equipped.

link

excerpt:

Microsoft said weakness in the global PC market negatively impacted its results.

edit:

the $31 million loss in the entertainment division could be attributed to the manufacturing and future marketing of the ZuneHD and not the xbox 360.

your welcome. it's seems that my subliminal message avatar is working.

"Good.Good."

[QUOTE="LoseEagles1245"][QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"] Well spotted, i guess people should be careful how they word things :P. On topic, this loss is probably due to the warrenty costs coupled with the fact they lose money on each 360 sold and with their aggressive pricing policy this becomes more pronounced, not sure how they can make a loss with all the sweet LIVE money. thegoldenpoo

actually, the loss doesn't have anything to do with the 360 or the entertainment division at all. it was due to low pc sales and higher sales of netbooks that are linux equipped.

link

excerpt:

Microsoft said weakness in the global PC market negatively impacted its results.

edit:

the $31 million loss in the entertainment division could be attributed to the manufacturing and future marketing of the ZuneHD and not the xbox 360.

you might want to fix the quotes there. other than that, yea it's the entire division but MS is still making money. just a little less than this time last year.

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="Ambli"]Sony lost somewhere close to 4 billion, 31 million is chump change compared to thatcowgriller

you do realise that MS entire entertainment division (xbox, xbox 360, zune) is actually in the black right? you do realise that MS has been making a profit for every xbox 360 sold since 2006 right? and do you realise that even though RRoD cost them $1 billion, they were able to pay it off in one shot and wrote it off as a quarterly loss and went on the make a profit in the next quarter?

MS makes $75 per xbox 360 sold

MS makes $75 per xbox 360 sold second source

MS entertainment division makes profit

MS entertainment division makes profit link 2

MS entertainment division makes profit link 3

MS writes off $1.15 billion

MS writes off $1.15 billion link 2

btw, regarding MS's "loss", they are not in debt or in the red like sony. instead, it just means that they MADE LESS money than this time last year. but the fact is, they still made money. this time last year, MS earned $4.39 billion. this year, they earned 32% less, or they earned $2.98 billion. see, even though the stock went down, they still made nearly $3 billion.

For one thing.........MS on the whole made a 3 billion profit. And even though its a loss, they probably shipped more 360s then PS3s. Temp-MLD

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="Ambli"]Sony lost somewhere close to 4 billion, 31 million is chump change compared to thatLoseEagles1245

and that was the only time in 8 year that the xbox made ms a cent and now it has reversed back to the trend of losing them millions after millions from the unprofitable xbox division.

imprezawrx500

[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6208456.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;2

Why is it that when Sony lost all that money all the Xbox fan was doing back flips, dancing in the streets and going buck wild over the news, but now there's a report stating that the 360 division lost $31 mill and now everybody lips a glued shut. I could care less about sales or how much money a company lose because I dont work for them.....but for those that do care....Carma is a MF!

Huff

[QUOTE="LoseEagles1245"]

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

Yeah because since joining the game industry MS only lost 31 million :| You are away MS has lost 6 billion since starting the Xbox brand back in 2001! 4 billion on Xbox and a further 2 billion in early 360 days. RROD alone cost MS 1 billion so technically MS is not making profit, they are still the red overal in their gaming division! oh btw unlike lemmings I dont jump for joy when a company is bleeding money, I feel quite bad for MS......... lol :Pimprezawrx500

apparently you didn't read any of my links.

I like how Gamespot words it "Xbox 360 Division" and not "Entertainment & Devices Department"

I guess they are trying to make it gaming related, but in reality, 360 portion of the E&D department is the only one posting net profit. Even GS's own article mentioed a quote from MS CFO Chris Liddell:

"Liddell specifically called out Xbox 360 hardware sales as one of Microsoft's bright spots for the quarter"

E&D includes:

• Zune
• PC games
• Windows Live
• Xbox 360
• ITV
• Embedded audio devices

The Xbox is losing money, No the Xbox is making money......................................LOL

[QUOTE="Temp-MLD"]For one thing.........MS on the whole made a 3 billion profit. And even though its a loss, they probably shipped more 360s then PS3s. imprezawrx500

Because while the 360 may not have made as much cash in this quarter over last year the division as a whole IS making money whereas Sony's just getting owned by selling their product.

You can lol at Sony, but lolling at MS really doesn't make sense since they aren't losing tons of money at all. That's why nobody cares.