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#151 blackace
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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

Mass Effect2 looks amazing on 360

Of course will not be as high resolution as these pics on 360, but will look stunning anyway and this is the point, that 360 does have stunning looking games and this will be one of them

Also you suggest the developers that confirmed the game running on 360 are lying ?

mitu123

Many games do look amazing on XBox 360 and PS3. They aren't going to look at good as the Top PC because it has more RAM and a better graphics card in it. That's just a given. I for one could game less if the game looks as good as a PC or not. Graphics are not the main reason I play a video game. I think it's the main reason PC gamers play video games however, as that's all they seem to talk about is the graphics. lol!! Crysis 1 could run on a game console, it just wouldn't look anywhere close to what it looks like on a PC. It would be low res and probably run at 30fps or lower. Consoles just don't have enough RAM to produce those results at this stage. Games like Uncharted 2, Rage, Gears of War 2, KZ2, etc.. all look incredible for a console game. If consoles could do higher resolutions then 1080p, they would look just as good as PC games.

I have yet to talk only about graphics and I'm a PC gamer.:lol: I worry more about my games working before even talking about graphics.

On SW all I hear about is GRAPHICS, and what looks better on what platforms. And worry about games working on your PC is something I need not worry about.
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#152 AdrianWerner
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No, but these are bullshots, it does not look even a million miles close to that in any video so far

AbleFa3

I've seen the game in person multiple times, all you've seen are low res crappy videos. Not to mention you're obviously quite biased.

I wonder who people here will believe: a professional videogame journalist we had direct contact with the game in question (me) or a forum fanboy (you).

Somehow I don't think you will find people trusting your word over mine in this case.

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#153 Hakkai007
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Heck Oblivion And Gears of War on PC look better than Fable 3 and Mass Effect 2 on Consoles.

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#154 AbleFa3
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No, but these are bullshots, it does not look even a million miles close to that in any video so far

Hakkai007

The PC doesn't have bullshots.

Do you even know what a bullshot is?

PC has bullshots too, it is these pics that are pre-rendered in the engine, and would run real time in 0.0001 frames per century

I dont see why Withcer 2 pics have no HUD, maybe because the actual gameplay is not looking anywhere as good ?

Also Fable 3 cities and lighting effects seem far better to me

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#155 blackace
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[QUOTE="blackace"]Those games look great for console games. Yes, I already know PC's are 12x's more powerful. Which is why I've already said there is no comparison between PC's and game console because game consoles CAN'T BE UPGRADED and PC's CAN. lol!! Still PC gamers continue to compare graphics (only graphic is seems) which is completely ridiculous. Still, many console games like Uncharted 2, Rage, RDR, Killzone 2, Mass Effect, etc... do look great for 5 years old technology. You're just a fanboy if you believe otherwise. I honestly don't care if they would look better on a PC. Most people play them on consoles and love it. No need for a PC. Hakkai007

I am not trying to sound like an elitist.

If you like consoles then that is fine.

Console games can be fun regardless of graphics, heck I still play my DS a lot and enjoy it.

I wouldn't even bring up graphics if it weren't for delusional people like the one arguing that Fable 3 and Mass Effect 2 look better than The Witcher 2.

The only way anyone can compare The Witcher 2 to Mass Effect 2 & Fable 3 it to wait for it to come out on the XBox 360 (if it ever does) and then compare it. You have to compare game graphics that are in the same generation. I don't see anyone comparing game graphics from PS1 to PS3 game graphics. That's pretty much what's going on here. If the Witcher 2 was out on the PS3 and it was being compared to 360 Mass Effect 2/Fable 3 then that would make sense.
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#156 AbleFa3
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

No, but these are bullshots, it does not look even a million miles close to that in any video so far

AdrianWerner

I've seen the game in person multiple times, all you've seen are low res crappy videos. Not to mention you're obviously quite biased.

I wonder who people here will believe: a professional videogame journalist we had direct contact with the game in question (me) or a forum fanboy (you).

Somehow I don't think you will find people trusting your word over mine in this case.

Well, show us all a Withcer 2 pic with HUD then, just one will do

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#157 Hakkai007
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I've seen the game in person multiple times, all you've seen are low res crappy videos. Not to mention you're obviously quite biased.

I wonder who people here will believe: a professional videogame journalist we had direct contact with the game in question (me) or a forum fanboy (you).

Somehow I don't think you will find people trusting your word over mine in this case.

AdrianWerner

I saw it too and it looks great.

Even the video trailer Prison Break does not do it justice.

Well mainly because it is a highly compressed youtube Vid.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRfd0AgJl_Y

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#158 AbleFa3
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[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="blackace"]Those games look great for console games. Yes, I already know PC's are 12x's more powerful. Which is why I've already said there is no comparison between PC's and game console because game consoles CAN'T BE UPGRADED and PC's CAN. lol!! Still PC gamers continue to compare graphics (only graphic is seems) which is completely ridiculous. Still, many console games like Uncharted 2, Rage, RDR, Killzone 2, Mass Effect, etc... do look great for 5 years old technology. You're just a fanboy if you believe otherwise. I honestly don't care if they would look better on a PC. Most people play them on consoles and love it. No need for a PC. blackace

I am not trying to sound like an elitist.

If you like consoles then that is fine.

Console games can be fun regardless of graphics, heck I still play my DS a lot and enjoy it.

I wouldn't even bring up graphics if it weren't for delusional people like the one arguing that Fable 3 and Mass Effect 2 look better than The Witcher 2.

The only way anyone can compare The Witcher 2 to Mass Effect 2 & Fable 3 it to wait for it to come out on the XBox 360 (if it ever does) and then compare it. You have to compare game graphics that are in the same generation. I don't see anyone comparing game graphics from PS1 to PS3 game graphics. That's pretty much what's going on here. If the Witcher 2 was out on the PS3 and it was being compared to 360 Mass Effect 2/Fable 3 then that would make sense.

The debate is if Withcer 2 can run on consoles

Since Wither 2 is a million miles from beeing even remotly close to the best looking PC game, i dont see why it cant run fine on consoles, when games like Rage, Crysis 2, Mass Effect 2, Gears 3 can

Simple as that

Well, developers have already confirmed it is running on 360, so all this talk is actually to prove the developers liers, but i doubt they are liers

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#159 AdrianWerner
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Well, show us all a Withcer 2 pic with HUD then, just one will do

AbleFa3

Why would they release such pictures? HUD only obstructs the view.

Wait.....are you saying that presence of HUD on pictures is a proof they weren't doctored? I mean...really? Wow :D

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#160 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="blackace"] Many games do look amazing on XBox 360 and PS3. They aren't going to look at good as the Top PC because it has more RAM and a better graphics card in it. That's just a given. I for one could game less if the game looks as good as a PC or not. Graphics are not the main reason I play a video game. I think it's the main reason PC gamers play video games however, as that's all they seem to talk about is the graphics. lol!! Crysis 1 could run on a game console, it just wouldn't look anywhere close to what it looks like on a PC. It would be low res and probably run at 30fps or lower. Consoles just don't have enough RAM to produce those results at this stage. Games like Uncharted 2, Rage, Gears of War 2, KZ2, etc.. all look incredible for a console game. If consoles could do higher resolutions then 1080p, they would look just as good as PC games. blackace

I have yet to talk only about graphics and I'm a PC gamer.:lol: I worry more about my games working before even talking about graphics.

On SW all I hear about is GRAPHICS, and what looks better on what platforms. And worry about games working on your PC is something I need not worry about.

I see lots of graphics threads but I don't go to them much, and of course, it's your PC after all.=p
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#161 AdrianWerner
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The debate is if Withcer 2 can run on consoles

AbleFa3

I don't see anyone here debates whether it can run on consoles or not. We're just laughing at the idea it will look anywhere near PC version. You're setting yourself up for a huge dissapoitment with this one. That is if the game will even be released on consoles at all.

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#162 AbleFa3
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Well, show us all a Withcer 2 pic with HUD then, just one will do

AdrianWerner

Why would they release such pictures? HUD only obstructs the view.

Wait.....are you saying that presence of HUD on pictures is a proof they weren't doctored? I mean...really? Wow :D

So, you think the developers lie about the game running on 360 ?

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#163 Hakkai007
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PC has bullshots too, it is these pics that are pre-rendered in the engine, and would run real time in 0.0001 frames per century

I dont see why Withcer 2 pics have no HUD, maybe because the actual gameplay is not looking anywhere as good ?

Also Fable 3 cities and lighting effects seem far better to me

AbleFa3

Show me a PC bullshot then.

Also you do know a lot of PC games can turn off the HUD.

I can remove my HUD in the Witcher 1.

Also those Fabel 3 screenshots are pretty ugly.

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#164 AbleFa3
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

The debate is if Withcer 2 can run on consoles

AdrianWerner

I don't see anyone here debates whether it can run on consoles or not. We're just laughing at the idea it will look anywhere near PC version. You're setting yourself up for a huge dissapoitment with this one. That is if the game will even be released on consoles at all.

And when did i say that would look as good as on a gaming PC ?

Sorry, but you are now making up things

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#165 Hakkai007
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And when did i say that would look as good as on a gaming PC ?

Sorry, but you are now making up things

AbleFa3

You said Fabel 3 and Mass Effect 2 look better than The Witcher 2.

And you say the screenshots are bullshots

That is what we are laughing at.

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#166 bigboss5ak
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Dont forget VF5 that game came to 360 with better graphics and online multiplayer
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#167 chaplainDMK
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[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

No, but these are bullshots, it does not look even a million miles close to that in any video so far

AbleFa3

The PC doesn't have bullshots.

Do you even know what a bullshot is?

PC has bullshots too, it is these pics that are pre-rendered in the engine, and would run real time in 0.0001 frames per century

I dont see why Withcer 2 pics have no HUD, maybe because the actual gameplay is not looking anywhere as good ?

Also Fable 3 cities and lighting effects seem far better to me

0.0001 frames in a century? If my 8800 GT 512 MB can run Crysis almost maxed out with 4x AA at 1280 x 1024 at around 30-35 FPS I think a GTX 480 2 GB will poulverise Witcher 2 on 3 screens with 16x AA at some 4000 x 1080 at 60-100 FPS... Seirously, Witcher 2 looks good but it doesen't look that good...

But whatever, you will continue to spew your BS no matter what....

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#169 Hakkai007
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Here was the Prison Break trailer for The Witcher 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRfd0AgJl_Y

Although it is still a horribly compressed youtube vid so it doesn't show the true graphical quality of the game.

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#170 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

Well, show us all a Withcer 2 pic with HUD then, just one will do

AbleFa3

Why would they release such pictures? HUD only obstructs the view.

Wait.....are you saying that presence of HUD on pictures is a proof they weren't doctored? I mean...really? Wow :D

So, you think the developers lie about the game running on 360 ?

Lie about what? They clearly said there are no current plans for console version and the team is working only on PC one atm. All they did was create running prototypes on 360. I have no reason to believe they lied about any of those.

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#171 Hakkai007
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My guess is he saw The Witcher 2 screenshots and then tried to look for better look console screenshots even if they were bullshots and saw how bad they lookedi n comparison so he came to the conclusion that The Witcher 2 was bullshots.

Of course he was wrong.

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#172 Hakkai007
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I wonder if he will say this is a bullshot even though I took the screenshot while playing the game.

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#174 clone01
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[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

My guess is he saw The Witcher 2 screenshots and then tried to look for better look console screenshots even if they were bullshots and saw how bad they lookedi n comparison so he came to the conclusion that The Witcher 2 was bullshots.

Of course he was wrong.

If I remember correctly, in his previous username, he also said that Alan Wake looked more graphically impressive than Crysis (or something along those lines).
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#175 Hakkai007
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Here is The Witcher 1. Yes this is the capability of a 2003 game engine. Just think about the possibilities of The Witcher 2 on Pc.

Screenshots taken by me.

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And here are the Fable 3 screenshots you used.

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#176 Hakkai007
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And here is Devil May Cry 4 for the PC.

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#177 shinrabanshou
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Here's some irony for you.

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#178 Hakkai007
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And to go even more extreme here is Half Life 2.

That should destroy any idea of consoles competing with PCs especially against a new title like The Witcher 2.

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#179 ChubbyGuy40
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Have you installed any visual mods for TW? And wow, I didn't know Fable 3 looked that bad.

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#180 Hakkai007
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Have you installed any visual mods for TW? And wow, I didn't know Fable 3 looked that bad.

ChubbyGuy40

Yah I installed a few.

Here was a close up of the face. The hair texture was not masked properly so I fixed that later.

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#181 Rage010101
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you guys do know you're debating with someone who has no idea what he's talking about right? (ablef3/saolin/seekar/etc). he has many names. i dunno why he doesnt get a permanent ban. all he does is create flame wars without any solid evidence. he will continue to post the same links no matter how many times you prove him wrong. i mean how can you argue with someone who claims fable 3, mass effect 2, gears 3 look better than pc's witcher 2? he even used 360 bullshots without knowing what a bullshot is and they still look worse than witcher 2. believe me when i say, you're wasting your time with this guy

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#182 Hakkai007
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you guys do know you're debating with someone who has no idea what he's talking about right? (ablef3/saolin/seekar/etc). he has many names. i dunno why he doesnt get a permanent ban. all he does is create flame wars without any solid evidence. he will continue to post the same links no matter how many times you prove him wrong. i mean how can you argue with someone who claims fable 3, mass effect 2, gears 3 look better than pc's witcher 2? he even used 360 bullshots without knowing what a bullshot is and they still look worse than witcher 2. believe me when i say, you're wasting your time with this guy

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Oh it's that guy......

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#183 clone01
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you guys do know you're debating with someone who has no idea what he's talking about right? (ablef3/saolin/seekar/etc). he has many names. i dunno why he doesnt get a permanent ban. all he does is create flame wars without any solid evidence. he will continue to post the same links no matter how many times you prove him wrong. i mean how can you argue with someone who claims fable 3, mass effect 2, gears 3 look better than pc's witcher 2? he even used 360 bullshots without knowing what a bullshot is and they still look worse than witcher 2. believe me when i say, you're wasting your time with this guy

Rage010101
yep. this guy has been doing this for a loooong time.
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#184 AbleFa3
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I think Kingdom Under Fire 2 just jumped from 360 console exclusive to PS3 console exlcusive !!!

I cant believe that, right now PS3 got 10x better than it was before, if it also gets Diablo 3 before 360, then will definatly be one of the best consoles

MS just lost one of its biggest 2011 games, good luck with that, god help them