Xbox 360 has a better Graphics Processing unit than the ps3?

So basically, the XBOX360 has a far more powerful GPU than the PS3. This is purely made with gaming in mind.

The PS3 was made with multiple functions in mind and has a far less powerful GPU. But it's cell, which is difficult to program for, is used in tandem with the GPU to produce better graphical output ... but its potential application is questionable due to the fact that the cell isn't really made with gaming in mind. But the cell can perform more non-graphics functions because of its high power?

... Right? Thats what I got from reading the thread.

So basically, the XBOX360 has a far more powerful GPU than the PS3. This is purely made with gaming in mind.

The PS3 was made with multiple functions in mind and has a far less powerful GPU. But it's cell, which is difficult to program for, is used in tandem with the GPU to produce better graphical output ... but its potential application is questionable due to the fact that the cell isn't really made with gaming in mind. But the cell can perform more non-graphics functions because of its high power?

... Right? Thats what I got from reading the thread.

ceruxx

while it may be true, it takes ALOT more time to develop code to work with the cell in tandum with the RSX to match/surpass the 360's gpu alone, so while it can be done, it cant be done easily or quickly

And yet its games look better(GT5 P, Uncharted, Ratchet) and even MGS4...coldsteel321

only to the eyes of a fanboy...

And yet its games look better(GT5 P, Uncharted, Ratchet) and even MGS4...coldsteel321

No, the games dont lok better. they look worse.

As it is, the GPU of the 360 is much better than the PS3s gpu. But the Cell processor and the fractal design it has, allows develoerps to run custom API's rendered via software on the cell processor. This means if developers take their time an dmake custom API's then they will look better on the PS3 but thats a LOT of work, and thus prebuilt API's (such as directx) are used and that's why the ps3 multiplat games will never consistently beat out 360. Infact 360 is easier to develop for and will get more games because of that fact.

[QUOTE="ceruxx"]

So basically, the XBOX360 has a far more powerful GPU than the PS3. This is purely made with gaming in mind.

The PS3 was made with multiple functions in mind and has a far less powerful GPU. But it's cell, which is difficult to program for, is used in tandem with the GPU to produce better graphical output ... but its potential application is questionable due to the fact that the cell isn't really made with gaming in mind. But the cell can perform more non-graphics functions because of its high power?

... Right? Thats what I got from reading the thread.

hyperboy152000

while it may be true, it takes ALOT more time to develop code to work with the cell in tandum with the RSX to match/surpass the 360's gpu alone, so while it can be done, it cant be done easily or quickly

Yes, thats exactly what I thought. So basically, the PS3 has the potential, but its not yet worked out.

I read somewhere that developers just released some of their code for the PS3 online to help other developers, somewhere in system wars this was mentioned.

[QUOTE="coldsteel321"]And yet its games look better(GT5 P, Uncharted, Ratchet) and even MGS4...facebooker

only to the eyes of a fanboy...

i think in some areas these games do with gt5p and MGS4 the car/char. models are some of the best ive seen, but there doesnt seem to be a balance of char. models and environmental details, and if there is then the game is short

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"][QUOTE="ceruxx"]

So basically, the XBOX360 has a far more powerful GPU than the PS3. This is purely made with gaming in mind.

The PS3 was made with multiple functions in mind and has a far less powerful GPU. But it's cell, which is difficult to program for, is used in tandem with the GPU to produce better graphical output ... but its potential application is questionable due to the fact that the cell isn't really made with gaming in mind. But the cell can perform more non-graphics functions because of its high power?

... Right? Thats what I got from reading the thread.

ceruxx

while it may be true, it takes ALOT more time to develop code to work with the cell in tandum with the RSX to match/surpass the 360's gpu alone, so while it can be done, it cant be done easily or quickly

Yes, thats exactly what I thought. So basically, the PS3 has the potential, but its not yet worked out.

I read somewhere that developers just released some of their code for the PS3 online to help other developers, somewhere in system wars this was mentioned.

yea its playstation edge, but even then that may not help those who have a dead line and already have their own code to work with, plus the "potential" the ps3 may have may never be realised in any practical mannorin terms of games this generation

[QUOTE="Karstux"]This is a sticky subject for a lot of fanboys. A very common argument in most flame wars is that the Playstation 3 simply "has better graphics". I'm not sure where that argument came from; Sony obviously did a good job of marketing the system. However, the argument is entirely false. The Xenos GPU on the XBOX 360 is superior the RSX on the PS3. This is one thing that didn't change in the past year.Animal-Mother

i own ps360 i have to say there pretty close niether system has "better graphics" i think with exclusives it really comes down to the art direction and what there aiming for and alot of graphics come down to personal preference

only to the eyes of a fanboy...

facebooker

so...you agree with him.

Why do you guys keep bringing up the "fact", that Uncharted and MGS look better then Gears of War?

It's an opinion, and always will be. The way games look to you and i, don't show which is more powerful.

[QUOTE="ceruxx"]

So basically, the XBOX360 has a far more powerful GPU than the PS3. This is purely made with gaming in mind.

The PS3 was made with multiple functions in mind and has a far less powerful GPU. But it's cell, which is difficult to program for, is used in tandem with the GPU to produce better graphical output ... but its potential application is questionable due to the fact that the cell isn't really made with gaming in mind. But the cell can perform more non-graphics functions because of its high power?

... Right? Thats what I got from reading the thread.

hyperboy152000

it takes ALOT more time to develop code to work with the cell in tandum with the RSX to match/surpass the 360's gpu alone, so while it can be done, it cant be done easily or quickly

And yet its games look better(GT5 P, Uncharted, Ratchet) and even MGS4...coldsteel321

Since when did they stop making games for the 360?

[QUOTE="ceruxx"][QUOTE="hyperboy152000"][QUOTE="ceruxx"]

So basically, the XBOX360 has a far more powerful GPU than the PS3. This is purely made with gaming in mind.

The PS3 was made with multiple functions in mind and has a far less powerful GPU. But it's cell, which is difficult to program for, is used in tandem with the GPU to produce better graphical output ... but its potential application is questionable due to the fact that the cell isn't really made with gaming in mind. But the cell can perform more non-graphics functions because of its high power?

... Right? Thats what I got from reading the thread.

hyperboy152000

while it may be true, it takes ALOT more time to develop code to work with the cell in tandum with the RSX to match/surpass the 360's gpu alone, so while it can be done, it cant be done easily or quickly

Yes, thats exactly what I thought. So basically, the PS3 has the potential, but its not yet worked out.

I read somewhere that developers just released some of their code for the PS3 online to help other developers, somewhere in system wars this was mentioned.

yea its playstation edge, but even then that may not help those who have a dead line and already have their own code to work with, plus the "potential" the ps3 may have may never be realised in any practical mannorin terms of games this generation

Just like the sega saturn. I'm finding a lot of parallels between the saturn vs. playstation race this console generation. It may not have been in America, but it was pretty close in Japan.

[QUOTE="thrones"]The Xenos is definitely better than the RSX, however the cell broadband processor can also uptake alot of graphical processing power unlike the Xenon which is a, more or less, standard processor.L1qu1dSword

If you conside a chip with three seperate cores running at 3.2 GHZ standard I guess. The cell btw has one.

i dont even believe that is true, at the time 360 launched a processor that fast would be so expensive it would cost more than the 360 itself (core was $300)

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]

[QUOTE="thrones"]The Xenos is definitely better than the RSX, however the cell broadband processor can also uptake alot of graphical processing power unlike the Xenon which is a, more or less, standard processor.blues35301

If you conside a chip with three seperate cores running at 3.2 GHZ standard I guess. The cell btw has one.

i dont even believe that is true, at the time 360 launched a processor that fast would be so expensive it would cost more than the 360 itself (core was $300)

Well your wrong.

http://hardware.teamxbox.com/articles/xbox/1144/The-Xbox-360-System-Specifications/p1

Xenon is better then the cell at general purpose computing but the cell is way better at stream computing so it can be used for graphics work. MS's approach of going with a normal CPU and a powerful GPU, (basically like a PC) made developement much easier for developers. For the PS3 to achieve great graphics some of the work has to be dont on the cell which greatly complecates the programming.

[QUOTE="subalachi"]

yes 360 has better gpu BUT the cell on ps3 can help the gpu of the ps3

and in the cell there are spu , those thing are like severals gpu in more than the main gpu

so cell + gpu ps3 >>>>>>> 360

jbz7890

Why do people still buy into Sony propaganda. The Cell cannot perform GPU functions on any meaningful level.

And yet its games look better(GT5 P, Uncharted, Ratchet) and even MGS4...coldsteel321

er no they don't/ MGS4 textures are appauling! GT5P had no damage models!

Sorry but can any cows here tell me what the original GPU was for the PS3 before they settled on one by Nvidia? And I am not caring to link the info of what it was. Krazy Ken talked about it and how it didnt work well for a GPU.

[QUOTE="jbz7890"][QUOTE="subalachi"]

yes 360 has better gpu BUT the cell on ps3 can help the gpu of the ps3

and in the cell there are spu , those thing are like severals gpu in more than the main gpu

so cell + gpu ps3 >>>>>>> 360

Bubblehash

Why do people still buy into Sony propaganda. The Cell cannot perform GPU functions on any meaningful level.

lol take third party analysis. Sony will tell whatever crap they want to sell there crap. including developers who make games for it. funny thing is the folding@home project found out that sony had over estimated its cell power by 50%!!!

They are the same, fanboys/haters just spew craps as facts to justify their console.

Just use recent multiplat and you see there is no difference at all.