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#51 MoveLIKE
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Well, PS3 fanboys think that all 360 games are crap, yet they think that 7 hour short, repeatitve, boring, tedious, linear, shallow titles like MGS4, Uncharted 1-2, Killozne 2 are god like

Well I'm a PC gamer and I also think all 360 games are crap. Now I wanna hear your "thoughts" (I dunno, is that the word for stuff just coming out of one's mouth?) on why PC games are so bad.

PC games arte fine, they are just all on 360
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#52 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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Lol what? I suppose you're implying that LO is on another level from the rest of the jrpgs. Seriously it was'nt. The story was bland, Gongorra was the worst villain ever and the dream sequences did'nt help. Many of them were downright boring in fact. Probably my own fault for reading a lot of books.

Ok?

You mean exclusives? How many exclusive wrpgs does the 360 have? I thought so.....

Lol what? Ok, Fable series are action adventures and Mass Effect series are tps.

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Hey LO was good :x

Well, PS3 fanboys think that all 360 games are crap, yet they think that 7 hour short, repeatitve, boring, tedious, linear, shallow titles like MGS4, Uncharted 1-2, Killozne 2 are god like

Mass effect is Linear. Fable 2 is very linear, short and one of the most shallow "RPG's" ever made. Most 360 games are linear.

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#53 MoveLIKE
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[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Hey LO was good :x

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Well, PS3 fanboys think that all 360 games are crap, yet they think that 7 hour short, repeatitve, boring, tedious, linear, shallow titles like MGS4, Uncharted 1-2, Killozne 2 are god like

Mass effect is Linear. Fable 2 is very linear, short and one of the most shallow "RPG's" ever made. Most 360 games are linear.

What is linear about games that until the very last minute you can revisit the whole world and do sub quests and stuff ? Do you know what linear is ? Oblivion would be linear by your definition and 10x more linear since you cant have an impact in the world or story at all
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#54 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"]So, 360 has Mass Effect 1-2-3 Fable 2-3 Lost Odyssey Tales Rare games Alan Wake Halo Gears 1-2-3 Limbo Kingdom Uncder Fire 2 Project Kingdoms (Crytek !!!!) Kinect etc There is nothing like it on the marketMoveLIKE

Serious question :-

Is this your new account (after Saolin, Obamanian, the_Seeker & a_simple_gamer) ??

Yes, of course

i see.. so we should expect you soon to start posting the following

360 has best RPGS

you have a PS3 but the only game you like is Demon Souls, the rother exclusive are for renting a couple of days at best

360 - has the best open world games & best foliage

There are many upcoming 360 games you look forward to, but no PS3 exclusive coming up interestes you..

etc etc.. am i right?

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[QUOTE="coreybg"]

[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"] Well, PS3 fanboys think that all 360 games are crap, yet they think that 7 hour short, repeatitve, boring, tedious, linear, shallow titles like MGS4, Uncharted 1-2, Killozne 2 are god likeMoveLIKE

Well I'm a PC gamer and I also think all 360 games are crap. Now I wanna hear your "thoughts" (I dunno, is that the word for stuff just coming out of one's mouth?) on why PC games are so bad.

PC games arte fine, they are just all on 360

Damn, xbox sure is advancing fast.

Now it has MMOs,RTSs,TBSs.

And along with that it has games like, you know, Crysis,CS:S etc.

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#56 MoveLIKE
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[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

Serious question :-

Is this your new account (after Saolin, Obamanian, the_Seeker & a_simple_gamer) ??

Malta_1980

Yes, of course

i see.. so we should expect you soon to start posting the following

360 has best RPGS

you have a PS3 but the only game you like is Demon Souls, the rother exclusive are for renting a couple of days at best

360 - has the best open world games & best foliage

There are many upcoming 360 games you look forward to, but no PS3 exclusive coming up interestes you..

etc etc.. am i right?

You summed it up nicely, and is all fact
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#57 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"][QUOTE="coreybg"]

Well I'm a PC gamer and I also think all 360 games are crap. Now I wanna hear your "thoughts" (I dunno, is that the word for stuff just coming out of one's mouth?) on why PC games are so bad.

coreybg

PC games arte fine, they are just all on 360

Damn, xbox sure is advancing fast.

Now it has MMOs,RTSs,TBSs.

And along with that it has games like, you know, Crysis,CS:S etc.

yep didnt you hear the best version for StarCraft2 is the 360's version :)

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#58 clyde46
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"] Yes, of courseMoveLIKE

i see.. so we should expect you soon to start posting the following

360 has best RPGS

you have a PS3 but the only game you like is Demon Souls, the rother exclusive are for renting a couple of days at best

360 - has the best open world games & best foliage

There are many upcoming 360 games you look forward to, but no PS3 exclusive coming up interestes you..

etc etc.. am i right?

You summed it up nicely, and is all fact

Prove it.
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#59 coreybg
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[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

Serious question :-

Is this your new account (after Saolin, Obamanian, the_Seeker & a_simple_gamer) ??

Malta_1980

Yes, of course

i see.. so we should expect you soon to start posting the following

360 has best RPGS

you have a PS3 but the only game you like is Demon Souls, the rother exclusive are for renting a couple of days at best

360 - has the best open world games & best foliage

There are many upcoming 360 games you look forward to, but no PS3 exclusive coming up interestes you..

etc etc.. am i right?

Not entirely right.

"so we should expect you soon to start posting the following"

Well he already did.

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#60 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

i see.. so we should expect you soon to start posting the following

360 has best RPGS

you have a PS3 but the only game you like is Demon Souls, the rother exclusive are for renting a couple of days at best

360 - has the best open world games & best foliage

There are many upcoming 360 games you look forward to, but no PS3 exclusive coming up interestes you..

etc etc.. am i right?

MoveLIKE

You summed it up nicely, and is all fact

Great, glad i wasnt wrong :) btw i've been waiting for you to send me a friend request on PSN since the Saolin username days.. still waiting :)

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#61 MoveLIKE
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[QUOTE="clyde46"] Prove it.

I need proof for facts ? Facts are facts
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#62 clyde46
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[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Prove it.

I need proof for facts ? Facts are facts

Yes you do, if you cannot provide proof to back them up, they are opinions.
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[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"] Well, PS3 fanboys think that all 360 games are crap, yet they think that 7 hour short, repeatitve, boring, tedious, linear, shallow titles like MGS4, Uncharted 1-2, Killozne 2 are god likeMoveLIKE

Mass effect is Linear. Fable 2 is very linear, short and one of the most shallow "RPG's" ever made. Most 360 games are linear.

What is linear about games that until the very last minute you can revisit the whole world and do sub quests and stuff ? Do you know what linear is ? Oblivion would be linear by your definition and 10x more linear since you cant have an impact in the world or story at all

Oblivion has a huge world you can explore. Mass effect and fable just have lots of narrow corridors.

Neither of them are even real RPG's

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#64 Malta_1980
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Not entirely right.

"so we should expect you soon to start posting the following"

Well he already did.

coreybg

i see.. let me rephrase then :P

So we should expect him soon to start POINTING OUT much more frequently on the above pionts :)

sounds better eh?

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#65 MoveLIKE
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[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]Mass effect is Linear. Fable 2 is very linear, short and one of the most shallow "RPG's" ever made. Most 360 games are linear.

toast_burner

What is linear about games that until the very last minute you can revisit the whole world and do sub quests and stuff ? Do you know what linear is ? Oblivion would be linear by your definition and 10x more linear since you cant have an impact in the world or story at all

Oblivion has a huge world you can explore. Mass effect and fable just have lots of narrow corridors.

Neither of them are even real RPG's

Nope, Mass Effect and Fable are like Oblivion, totally non linear and huge open worlds to explore
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#66 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Prove it.

I need proof for facts ? Facts are facts

A fact is something that can be proven. with out proof its just an opinion
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[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"] What is linear about games that until the very last minute you can revisit the whole world and do sub quests and stuff ? Do you know what linear is ? Oblivion would be linear by your definition and 10x more linear since you cant have an impact in the world or story at allMoveLIKE

Oblivion has a huge world you can explore. Mass effect and fable just have lots of narrow corridors.

Neither of them are even real RPG's

Nope, Mass Effect and Fable are like Oblivion, totally non linear and huge open worlds to explore

Sorry your Jedi tricks wont work on me.
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#68 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"][QUOTE="toast_burner"] Oblivion has a huge world you can explore. Mass effect and fable just have lots of narrow corridors.

Neither of them are even real RPG's

toast_burner

Nope, Mass Effect and Fable are like Oblivion, totally non linear and huge open worlds to explore

Sorry your Jedi tricks wont work on me.

stay sharp Toast_burner, the bias in this one is strong :P (i'm just kidding MoveLIKE so dont get somehow offended :P )

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="MoveLIKE"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Prove it.

I need proof for facts ? Facts are facts

A fact is something that can be proven. with out proof its just an opinion

No, actually that is a theory.
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="MoveLIKE"] I need proof for facts ? Facts are facts

A fact is something that can be proven. with out proof its just an opinion

No, actually that is a theory.

Indeed, facts are just facts, need no proof Mass Effect is 9.5/10 average scoring RPG, and not on PS3 or Wii, that is fact
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[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="toast_burner"] A fact is something that can be proven. with out proof its just an opinion

No, actually that is a theory.

Indeed, facts are just facts, need no proof Mass Effect is 9.5/10 average scoring RPG, and not on PS3 or Wii, that is fact

So by your logic I can say that gravity doesnt exist and I know this to be true because its a fact
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="toast_burner"] A fact is something that can be proven. with out proof its just an opinionMoveLIKE
No, actually that is a theory.

Indeed, facts are just facts, need no proof Mass Effect is 9.5/10 average scoring RPG, and not on PS3 or Wii, that is fact

It's also a fact that the PC version is better but has a lower META score.

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[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="MoveLIKE"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] No, actually that is a theory.

Indeed, facts are just facts, need no proof Mass Effect is 9.5/10 average scoring RPG, and not on PS3 or Wii, that is fact

So by your logic I can say that gravity doesnt exist and I know this to be true because its a fact

? I just state facts, it is not my task to prove them, google can do that easilly
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#74 MoveLIKE
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[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] No, actually that is a theory. Filthybastrd

Indeed, facts are just facts, need no proof Mass Effect is 9.5/10 average scoring RPG, and not on PS3 or Wii, that is fact

It's also a fact that the PC version is better but has a lower META score.

How is PC version better ? Not on EVERY PC !!!! And sure not without a pad
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="MoveLIKE"] I need proof for facts ? Facts are facts

A fact is something that can be proven. with out proof its just an opinion

No, actually that is a theory.

Your right, but in this case its not a fact its an opinion.
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[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="MoveLIKE"] Indeed, facts are just facts, need no proof Mass Effect is 9.5/10 average scoring RPG, and not on PS3 or Wii, that is factMoveLIKE
So by your logic I can say that gravity doesnt exist and I know this to be true because its a fact

? I just state facts, it is not my task to prove them, google can do that easilly

Logic says YOU must show your evidence to prove your fact or people will Argue/Fight your so called "fact" saying its bull or a based opinion.

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[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"] ? I just state facts, it is not my task to prove them, google can do that easilly

If youre going to spout out some "facts" you will need to back them up with evidence on this board. Since it can be easily found on google it shouldnt take you too long to come up with some sources.
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[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"] Indeed, facts are just facts, need no proof Mass Effect is 9.5/10 average scoring RPG, and not on PS3 or Wii, that is factMoveLIKE

It's also a fact that the PC version is better but has a lower META score.

How is PC version better ? Not on EVERY PC !!!! And sure not without a pad

What you're saying is just plain stupid.ALL BioWare games play better on PC. And whether it's without a pad or not is a matter of personal taste.

And how do you know if it's not better? Obviously you only have a 360 with a Jesus sticker on it which you find as god.

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[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"] Indeed, facts are just facts, need no proof Mass Effect is 9.5/10 average scoring RPG, and not on PS3 or Wii, that is factMoveLIKE

It's also a fact that the PC version is better but has a lower META score.

How is PC version better ? Not on EVERY PC !!!! And sure not without a pad

Well im pretty sure that every PC version is the same, so I cant see how a game can differ between computers. Do I need to link that one article where 360 players played against PC players and got smashed?
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This is great, keep it up.
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How is PC version better ? Not on EVERY PC !!!! And sure not without a pad

Ok, not on every pc but it does'nt take much of one to run it at 720p with better settings than what the 360 version features. If your PC is good, there's a lot of fidelity beyond the 720p as well....

And yes! Surely without a pad. kb/m is indeed superior. I will however agree that it's a travesty that Bioware for some reason did'nt include gamepad support out of the box just to appease the so inclined. for a game that has a console version nonetheless!!!!

Same thing happened with Bioshock 2.......

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[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"] Indeed, facts are just facts, need no proof Mass Effect is 9.5/10 average scoring RPG, and not on PS3 or Wii, that is factMoveLIKE

It's also a fact that the PC version is better but has a lower META score.

How is PC version better ? Not on EVERY PC !!!! And sure not without a pad

Mass effect series is much better on a keyboard and mouse, as is just about all rpgs
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] Mass effect series is much better on a keyboard and mouse, as is just about all rpgs

The keyboard and mouse destroy any immersion for me, it is by far the worst controls
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[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] Mass effect series is much better on a keyboard and mouse, as is just about all rpgs

The keyboard and mouse destroy any immersion for me, it is by far the worst controls

so you prefer to have to pause constantly instead of having hot keys?
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[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] Mass effect series is much better on a keyboard and mouse, as is just about all rpgs

The keyboard and mouse destroy any immersion for me, it is by far the worst controls

How does constantly having to pause the game help the immersion?
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[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] Mass effect series is much better on a keyboard and mouse, as is just about all rpgstoast_burner
The keyboard and mouse destroy any immersion for me, it is by far the worst controls

How does constantly having to pause the game help the immersion?

Don't question his motives. Didn't u read his other posts? Xbox is better.Period.

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[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"][QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

^ No it's still opinion. That 9.5 that IGN game Mass Effect 2 that was someone opinion. (post was directed at movelike)

Indeed, but 350 opinions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one opinion LImbo is also AAA

That's actually not true. ONE opinion discovered the world was round.
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#88 MoveLIKE
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="MoveLIKE"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] Mass effect series is much better on a keyboard and mouse, as is just about all rpgs

The keyboard and mouse destroy any immersion for me, it is by far the worst controls

so you prefer to have to pause constantly instead of having hot keys?

Not really, i prefer neither, i want to play without pause, and sure wthout a huge 102 key thing in front of me Some games do it fine, in general i prefer the pause than hotkeys
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="MoveLIKE"] The keyboard and mouse destroy any immersion for me, it is by far the worst controls MoveLIKE
so you prefer to have to pause constantly instead of having hot keys?

Not really, i prefer neither, i want to play without pause, and sure wthout a huge 102 key thing in front of me Some games do it fine, in general i prefer the pause than hotkeys

Wait, lemme get this straight.

You don't want to puse, but you prefer pausing?

And about the "102 key" thing. You'd have to be pretty stupid to NOT know how to use a keyboard.

Are you typing from your controller now?

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[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] so you prefer to have to pause constantly instead of having hot keys?coreybg

Not really, i prefer neither, i want to play without pause, and sure wthout a huge 102 key thing in front of me Some games do it fine, in general i prefer the pause than hotkeys

Wait, lemme get this straight.

You don't want to puse, but you prefer pausing?

And about the "102 key" thing. You'd have to be pretty stupid to NOT know how to use a keyboard.

Are you typing from your controller now?

I want to play, not go key hunting
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#92 MoveLIKE
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If you think controllers are so intuitive try handing over your 360 pad to your wife and pop in Gears 2.

The exception is the Wii-mote which seems to be a natural concept to grasp for people not initiated in the gaming elite.

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The hands free Kinect is way above Wii stick in that
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#93 Filthybastrd
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[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

If you think controllers are so intuitive try handing over your 360 pad to your wife and pop in Gears 2.

The exception is the Wii-mote which seems to be a natural concept to grasp for people not initiated in the gaming elite.

MoveLIKE

The hands free Kinect is way above Wii stick in that

No it is'nt... It's pretty damn limited in what it can do since it has no buttons and apparently does'nt detect individual fingers.

Kinect can't play many games at all unless you add a controller and that practically removes all the Full body 3D benefits since you can't be flailing around to much when you're using a controller.

I like playing with this:

Here's my cat for good measure:

His name is Delle which more or less means roll of fat.

Edit: Holy crap. Did'nt realize my cellphone pics were so huge.

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#94 Iantheone
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[QUOTE="coreybg"]

[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"] Not really, i prefer neither, i want to play without pause, and sure wthout a huge 102 key thing in front of me Some games do it fine, in general i prefer the pause than hotkeysMoveLIKE

Wait, lemme get this straight.

You don't want to puse, but you prefer pausing?

And about the "102 key" thing. You'd have to be pretty stupid to NOT know how to use a keyboard.

Are you typing from your controller now?

I want to play, not go key hunting

I hate having action different actions on the same key. I play ArmA2 which uses pretty much the entire keyboard and after a while I dont even have to look at the it.
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Demon SOul is good, but not a RPGMoveLIKE

it actually is you :), you name the same games, say the same things, use the same references(n4g), and use the same logic.

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[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"][QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

If you think controllers are so intuitive try handing over your 360 pad to your wife and pop in Gears 2.

The exception is the Wii-mote which seems to be a natural concept to grasp for people not initiated in the gaming elite.

Filthybastrd

The hands free Kinect is way above Wii stick in that

No it is'nt... It's pretty damn limited in what it can do since it has no buttons and apparently does'nt detect individual fingers.

Kinect can't play many games at all unless you add a controller and that practically removes all the Full body 3D benefits since you can't be flailing around to much when you're using a controller.

I like playing with this:

Here's my cat for good measure:

His name is Delle which more or less means roll of fat.

Edit: Holy crap. Did'nt realize my cellphone pics were so huge.

I approve of this post.

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#97 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"]

Demon SOul is good, but not a RPGconvicted_94

it actually is you :), you name the same games, say the same things, use the same references(n4g), and use the same logic.

Its funny that he doesnt think Demons souls is an RPG but thinks Mass Effect and Fable are
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#98 MoveLIKE
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[QUOTE="convicted_94"]

[QUOTE="MoveLIKE"]

Demon SOul is good, but not a RPGtoast_burner

it actually is you :), you name the same games, say the same things, use the same references(n4g), and use the same logic.

Its funny that he doesnt think Demons souls is an RPG but thinks Mass Effect and Fable are

Fable and Mass Effect have NPC's, cities, choice in quests, dialogs, quests, a real story etc etc Demon Soul was mainly created to play online, that is why was stripped of most RPG elements and only has combat and basic RPG elements, like stats and a few NPCs in one place, with reminds me of Diablo 1 than a true RPG
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We don't know anything about Kingdoms!!! Why should this be mentioned unless it's in regards to a game you're hyped to hear more about? You can't just stamp an upcoming game because of the vid ending with Crytek.
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#100 MoveLIKE
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We don't know anything about Kingdoms!!! Why should this be mentioned unless it's in regards to a game you're hyped to hear more about? You can't just stamp an upcoming game because of the vid ending with Crytek.moose_knuckler
Epic game with Crysis graphics ? Are you kidding me ? That could easilyl be the next huge MS thing