Xbox 360 HD-DVD Drive. $72 dollars?!

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/deals/dealzmodo-sams-club-xbox-360-hd-dvd-drives-for-72-255161.php

If you're looking for a great deal on HD DVD drives for the Xbox 360, now's the perfect time to hit up Sam's Club. Reader Chris tipped us off to this $72 deal, which is coming as a result of "Wal-mart" not stocking these HD DVD drives anymore. Chris isn't sure whether they meant only Sam's Club or Sam's Club and Wal-mart, but you're probably set on getting one at Sam's. Incidentally, can anyone see if Wal-mart is doing this as well?

In light of recent announcements from Wal-mart that they're going to stock tons of cheap HD DVD drives, having an even cheaper drive for the Xbox 360 may not make sense. They don't want to confuse and conflict with what they're trying to do there. - Jason Chen

Thanks Chris!

I still think M$ should release a Blu-Ray drive for the 360. -supercharged-

I still think M$ should release a Blu-Ray drive for the 360. -supercharged-

expect it, should the situation warrant it. 

[QUOTE="-supercharged-"]I still think M$ should release a Blu-Ray drive for the 360. Lazy_Boy88

Bluray is just a storage medium.  As far as movie quality goes, it offers the same benefits as HD-DVD. 

[QUOTE="-supercharged-"]I still think M$ should release a Blu-Ray drive for the 360. Dreams-Visions

expect it, should the situation warrant it. 

yeah i work at walmart and we couldnt move the thing out of stores here in LA, we had to cut the price almost in half. and i havent heard much about the big hd dvd purchase but i heard they might actually be bluray players from my boss but she said she hasnt heard much she aint an executive. i saw a translation and it said "blue hd player" and that it would be easier to manufacture now that they didnt use cartridges anymore, bluray used to use carts. hd dvd never did.Chris-Hansen

Not just that but the HD DVD camp wont even confirm it.  Check engadethd.com.  It sounds alot like a bad translated rumor.

"The biggest news to hit the format war in some time hit last week with word that Wal-Mart and China's Great Wall corporation struck a deal to bring inexpensive HD DVD players to market. While this is would be great news for all HD fans, we were left a bit worrisome by the translation dispute between the two camps. Just to make sure we had our facts straight, we updated the post and contacted HD DVD to get the full story. While the HD DVD camp reminded us that they have inexpensive players from China on the way, they weren't able to confirm any "specific reports relating to Wal-Mart". It seems to us that if this were indeed true, that the HD DVD camp would be the first to trumpet its significance to their success in the format war. As much as we all want inexpensive next generation HD disc players, we will just have to wait for something more official before we hold off on our purchases waiting for Wal-Mart."

interesting.... i'm surprised walmart would hack prices on such a new product. since they can't move ps3's either, will they slash a few hundred off that? :lol:chrisdojo

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="-supercharged-"]I still think M$ should release a Blu-Ray drive for the 360. Chris-Hansen

expect it, should the situation warrant it.

If they are really about giving their customers "choice" like they say they do they will release it.  

[QUOTE="Chris-Hansen"]yeah i work at walmart and we couldnt move the thing out of stores here in LA, we had to cut the price almost in half. and i havent heard much about the big hd dvd purchase but i heard they might actually be bluray players from my boss but she said she hasnt heard much she aint an executive. i saw a translation and it said "blue hd player" and that it would be easier to manufacture now that they didnt use cartridges anymore, bluray used to use carts. hd dvd never did.Javy03

Not just that but the HD DVD camp wont even confirm it. Check engadethd.com. It sounds alot like a bad translated rumor.

"The biggest news to hit the format war in some time hit last week with word that Wal-Mart and China's Great Wall corporation struck a deal to bring inexpensive HD DVD players to market. While this is would be great news for all HD fans, we were left a bit worrisome by the translation dispute between the two camps. Just to make sure we had our facts straight, we updated the post and contacted HD DVD to get the full story. While the HD DVD camp reminded us that they have inexpensive players from China on the way, they weren't able to confirm any "specific reports relating to Wal-Mart". It seems to us that if this were indeed true, that the HD DVD camp would be the first to trumpet its significance to their success in the format war. As much as we all want inexpensive next generation HD disc players, we will just have to wait for something more official before we hold off on our purchases waiting for Wal-Mart."

right, but if it were a blu-ray player, don't you think that sony and the BDA would've announced it as soon as possible. remember during CES when they announced early "victory" over hd dvd after only being in the lead of software sales for a couple of weeks? all i'm saying is, wait until there is a proper translation of the article. from what i've heard and read, it's a mistranslation that was suppose to say blue laser or blue light hd dvd player, not blu-ray player. once again, let's just wait until something legitimate comes out.

[QUOTE="Chris-Hansen"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="-supercharged-"]I still think M$ should release a Blu-Ray drive for the 360. -supercharged-

expect it, should the situation warrant it.

If they are really about giving their customers "choice" like they say they do they will release it.

while ms is all about giving people a choice in xbox 360, they have a vested interest in hd dvd. why would they go and kill off something that could potentially make them billions of dollars just to offer a blu-ray player that, just like hd dvd, has a 50% chance of failure and that wont make them a ton of money (because thy have no stock in the survival or victory of bd).

yeah i work at walmart and we couldnt move the thing out of stores here in LA, we had to cut the price almost in half. and i havent heard much about the big hd dvd purchase but i heard they might actually be bluray players from my boss but she said she hasnt heard much she aint an executive. i saw a translation and it said "blue hd player" and that it would be easier to manufacture now that they didnt use cartridges anymore, bluray used to use carts. hd dvd never did.Chris-Hansen

 WTF is with you guys and changing the translation? 

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藍光光碟乃由其採用的藍色激光光束來進行讀寫操作而得名。藍光光碟指的並不是單一產品，也不是專用於某一特定產品的名稱，凡是採 用藍色光束的光碟都可稱為藍光光碟。

[编辑] 目前商品化的藍光光碟產品

* BD（Blu-ray Disc）
* HD DVD


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Blue lasers have applications in many areas ranging from opto-electronic data storage at high-density to medical applications. Until the mid 1990s, blue lasers were large and expensive gas laser instruments which relied on population inversion in rare gas mixtures and needed high currents and strong cooling. In the mid 1990s Shuji Nakamura at Nichia Chemical Industries in Anan (Tokushima-ken, Japan), made a series of inventions and developed commercially viable blue and violet semiconductor lasers based on gallium nitride compound sectors by using quantum wells or quantum dots spontaneously formed via self-assembly. This invention enabled the development of small, convenient and low priced blue, violet and ultraviolet UV lasers which had not been available before and opened the way for applications such as high-density HD DVD data storage and BD（Blu-ray Disc）. The shorter wavelength allows it to read discs containing much more information.

Blue laser light usually has a relatively low input-to-power efficiency. Blue lasers usually operate at around 472 nanometers.

The use of indium gallium nitride as a semiconductor material suitable for formation of quantum heterostructures has been proposed. Recently, CdS/ZnS quantum dots have been used as the gain material in spherical Whispering Gallery Mode lasers; see Applied Physics Letters, 2005, 86:073102.

Shuji Nakamura built his blue laser prototype from the gallium nitride crystal developed by Unipress, the Warsaw Center for High Pressure Research, part of the Polish Academy of Sciences.

 Also, answer me this...Where is "Blu-ray" in the original chinese article? I don't see "Blu-ray" anywhere, only "HD DVD" they even spelt "HD DVD" correctly, without the hyphen. The trademarked name is "HD DVD" not "HD-DVD"

It makes no sense,  Blu-ray is also trademarked, just like HD DVD, DVD, TDK, and Walmart. So Blu-ray would be in English if they meant Blu-ray

If they meant Blu-ray, the disk format. Why not say something like "Blu-ray 高清晰度磁盘"

Which means "Blu-ray High Definition Disk"

[QUOTE="-supercharged-"][QUOTE="Chris-Hansen"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="-supercharged-"]I still think M$ should release a Blu-Ray drive for the 360. latinrage69

expect it, should the situation warrant it.

If they are really about giving their customers "choice" like they say they do they will release it.

while ms is all about giving people a choice in xbox 360, they have a vested interest in hd dvd. why would they go and kill off something that could potentially make them billions of dollars just to offer a blu-ray player that, just like hd dvd, has a 50% chance of failure and that wont make them a ton of money (because thy have no stock in the survival or victory of bd).

How would HD-DVD make Microsoft "billions" of dollars?  They don't hold the patents or royalty rights to it. 

Huh... lack of sales forces Wal-mart to sell them cheap at the bulk store. Good for anyone who wants one but it's dying as an add-on it would seem..... MS should've learned the lessons of Sega. But hey that's damned well worth it just to use with a PC.Lazy_Boy88

actually they are clearing them out because Wal-Mart is going to be selling their own HDDVD players 

[QUOTE="Lazy_Boy88"]Huh... lack of sales forces Wal-mart to sell them cheap at the bulk store. Good for anyone who wants one but it's dying as an add-on it would seem..... MS should've learned the lessons of Sega. But hey that's damned well worth it just to use with a PC.XboxUnderground

actually they are clearing them out because Wal-Mart is going to be selling their own HDDVD players

Walmart sells lots of their own things that are contracted to chinese manufacturers while not elimminating competing products.  This wouldn't be any different.  The HD-DVD add-on just doesn't sell well.  And it's a shame because it's a very good product. 

that's what i was waiting for... very nice....:)

SOLD!  

[QUOTE="Chris-Hansen"]yeah i work at walmart and we couldnt move the thing out of stores here in LA, we had to cut the price almost in half. and i havent heard much about the big hd dvd purchase but i heard they might actually be bluray players from my boss but she said she hasnt heard much she aint an executive. i saw a translation and it said "blue hd player" and that it would be easier to manufacture now that they didnt use cartridges anymore, bluray used to use carts. hd dvd never did.Javy03

Not just that but the HD DVD camp wont even confirm it.  Check engadethd.com.  It sounds alot like a bad translated rumor.

"The biggest news to hit the format war in some time hit last week with word that Wal-Mart and China's Great Wall corporation struck a deal to bring inexpensive HD DVD players to market. While this is would be great news for all HD fans, we were left a bit worrisome by the translation dispute between the two camps. Just to make sure we had our facts straight, we updated the post and contacted HD DVD to get the full story. While the HD DVD camp reminded us that they have inexpensive players from China on the way, they weren't able to confirm any "specific reports relating to Wal-Mart". It seems to us that if this were indeed true, that the HD DVD camp would be the first to trumpet its significance to their success in the format war. As much as we all want inexpensive next generation HD disc players, we will just have to wait for something more official before we hold off on our purchases waiting for Wal-Mart."

Yeah cuz Engadget is not biased or anything..The first thing Engadget reported was that is was Blu-ray players...Then when they updated there story and changed it to HD-DVD they said.

"Update: Pull back the reigns HD DVD fanboys, Akihabara now says that they've made a "huge mistake" with their translation: the original source called it "藍光 HD DVD and 藍光 means Blu-RAY." In other words, Blu-ray HD DVD. Huh? Word to the wise: since both formats use blue lasers, it's best to wait for an English press release before either camp celebrates."

HD DVD Fanboys huh?  :roll:

Here's how I made my decision as to which format to support.

List all the movies you want in HD. List any movie that comes out this year that you want in HD.

Check out which studios those movies come from, and which format they are supporting.

You will have your answer.

MY opinion...don't bother with HD DVD. And I'm a HUGE movie geek and I'll tell ya its not going to get some of the biggest titles of the year. 

That add-on is garbage. I wouldn't bother buying HD-DVD at all yet without Fox and Disney on board.

That add-on is garbage. I wouldn't bother buying HD-DVD at all yet without Fox and Disney on board.

 

 

diggyzoom

how many Disney bluray movies are available for purchase?

just curious.

[QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="-supercharged-"][QUOTE="Chris-Hansen"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="-supercharged-"]I still think M$ should release a Blu-Ray drive for the 360. ramey70

expect it, should the situation warrant it.

If they are really about giving their customers "choice" like they say they do they will release it.

while ms is all about giving people a choice in xbox 360, they have a vested interest in hd dvd. why would they go and kill off something that could potentially make them billions of dollars just to offer a blu-ray player that, just like hd dvd, has a 50% chance of failure and that wont make them a ton of money (because thy have no stock in the survival or victory of bd).

How would HD-DVD make Microsoft "billions" of dollars?  They don't hold the patents or royalty rights to it. 

The programing used for the interactive menus (i-HD) on HD DVD is from Microsoft. So they would be making some money. Blu-ray uses Java from Sun Microsystems.

Here's how I made my decision as to which format to support.

List all the movies you want in HD. List any movie that comes out this year that you want in HD.

Check out which studios those movies come from, and which format they are supporting.

You will have your answer.

MY opinion...don't bother with HD DVD. And I'm a HUGE movie geek and I'll tell ya its not going to get some of the biggest titles of the year.

 

Bread_or_Decide

Or just stick to DVD's until the HD players get cheaper.  

That add-on is garbage. I wouldn't bother buying HD-DVD at all yet without Fox and Disney on board.

 

diggyzoom

If Walmart sells the 2 million Chinese HD DVD players by the end of the year,  Fox and Disney will jump on board.  Count on it.

[QUOTE="Javy03"]

[QUOTE="Chris-Hansen"]yeah i work at walmart and we couldnt move the thing out of stores here in LA, we had to cut the price almost in half. and i havent heard much about the big hd dvd purchase but i heard they might actually be bluray players from my boss but she said she hasnt heard much she aint an executive. i saw a translation and it said "blue hd player" and that it would be easier to manufacture now that they didnt use cartridges anymore, bluray used to use carts. hd dvd never did.latinrage69

Not just that but the HD DVD camp wont even confirm it. Check engadethd.com. It sounds alot like a bad translated rumor.

"The biggest news to hit the format war in some time hit last week with word that Wal-Mart and China's Great Wall corporation struck a deal to bring inexpensive HD DVD players to market. While this is would be great news for all HD fans, we were left a bit worrisome by the translation dispute between the two camps. Just to make sure we had our facts straight, we updated the post and contacted HD DVD to get the full story. While the HD DVD camp reminded us that they have inexpensive players from China on the way, they weren't able to confirm any "specific reports relating to Wal-Mart". It seems to us that if this were indeed true, that the HD DVD camp would be the first to trumpet its significance to their success in the format war. As much as we all want inexpensive next generation HD disc players, we will just have to wait for something more official before we hold off on our purchases waiting for Wal-Mart."

right, but if it were a blu-ray player, don't you think that sony and the BDA would've announced it as soon as possible. remember during CES when they announced early "victory" over hd dvd after only being in the lead of software sales for a couple of weeks? all i'm saying is, wait until there is a proper translation of the article. from what i've heard and read, it's a mistranslation that was suppose to say blue laser or blue light hd dvd player, not blu-ray player. once again, let's just wait until something legitimate comes out.

I never said it was blu ray or that it was even real.  I agree we should wait, thats why I referred to it as a rumor.  My point is alot of people still believe the Walmart thing is a factor or confirmed when in reality it is just a rumor and it may mean the complete opposite of what HD DVD fans might want it to mean.

[QUOTE="diggyzoom"]

That add-on is garbage. I wouldn't bother buying HD-DVD at all yet without Fox and Disney on board.

 

 

tango90101

how many Disney bluray movies are available for purchase?

just curious.

[QUOTE="Javy03"]

[QUOTE="Chris-Hansen"]yeah i work at walmart and we couldnt move the thing out of stores here in LA, we had to cut the price almost in half. and i havent heard much about the big hd dvd purchase but i heard they might actually be bluray players from my boss but she said she hasnt heard much she aint an executive. i saw a translation and it said "blue hd player" and that it would be easier to manufacture now that they didnt use cartridges anymore, bluray used to use carts. hd dvd never did.m3Boarder32

Not just that but the HD DVD camp wont even confirm it.  Check engadethd.com.  It sounds alot like a bad translated rumor.

"The biggest news to hit the format war in some time hit last week with word that Wal-Mart and China's Great Wall corporation struck a deal to bring inexpensive HD DVD players to market. While this is would be great news for all HD fans, we were left a bit worrisome by the translation dispute between the two camps. Just to make sure we had our facts straight, we updated the post and contacted HD DVD to get the full story. While the HD DVD camp reminded us that they have inexpensive players from China on the way, they weren't able to confirm any "specific reports relating to Wal-Mart". It seems to us that if this were indeed true, that the HD DVD camp would be the first to trumpet its significance to their success in the format war. As much as we all want inexpensive next generation HD disc players, we will just have to wait for something more official before we hold off on our purchases waiting for Wal-Mart."

Yeah cuz Engadget is not biased or anything..The first thing Engadget reported was that is was Blu-ray players...Then when they updated there story and changed it to HD-DVD they said.

"Update: Pull back the reigns HD DVD fanboys, Akihabara now says that they've made a "huge mistake" with their translation: the original source called it "藍光 HD DVD and 藍光 means Blu-RAY." In other words, Blu-ray HD DVD. Huh? Word to the wise: since both formats use blue lasers, it's best to wait for an English press release before either camp celebrates."

HD DVD Fanboys huh?  :roll:

That add-on is garbage. I wouldn't bother buying HD-DVD at all yet without Fox and Disney on board.

 

 

diggyzoom

[QUOTE="diggyzoom"]

That add-on is garbage. I wouldn't bother buying HD-DVD at all yet without Fox and Disney on board.

 

 

tango90101

how many Disney bluray movies are available for purchase?

just curious.

Are you counting Buena Vista as Disney as well?  Before answering any of your questions it's best to establish you're always elusive criteria for acceptable answers.    

[QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="-supercharged-"][QUOTE="Chris-Hansen"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="-supercharged-"]I still think M$ should release a Blu-Ray drive for the 360. ramey70

expect it, should the situation warrant it.

If they are really about giving their customers "choice" like they say they do they will release it.

while ms is all about giving people a choice in xbox 360, they have a vested interest in hd dvd. why would they go and kill off something that could potentially make them billions of dollars just to offer a blu-ray player that, just like hd dvd, has a 50% chance of failure and that wont make them a ton of money (because thy have no stock in the survival or victory of bd).

How would HD-DVD make Microsoft "billions" of dollars? They don't hold the patents or royalty rights to it.

they are a founding member and on of the creators of the VC-1 codec used in both hd dvd and bd (hd dvd is more prevailent as it's used in every hd dvd, bd uses mpeg 2 and mpeg 4/AVC or H.264 for most of the titles. few movies in bd use VC-1. the ones that do are from paramount and warner, the neutral companies). granted toshiba will make the most from royalties/licensing fees and reproduction rights, but ms will make a lot of money as well because VC-1 is mandatory for use in hd dvd. all this happens over time, not over night.

[QUOTE="Javy03"]

[QUOTE="Chris-Hansen"]yeah i work at walmart and we couldnt move the thing out of stores here in LA, we had to cut the price almost in half. and i havent heard much about the big hd dvd purchase but i heard they might actually be bluray players from my boss but she said she hasnt heard much she aint an executive. i saw a translation and it said "blue hd player" and that it would be easier to manufacture now that they didnt use cartridges anymore, bluray used to use carts. hd dvd never did.m3Boarder32

Not just that but the HD DVD camp wont even confirm it.  Check engadethd.com.  It sounds alot like a bad translated rumor.

"The biggest news to hit the format war in some time hit last week with word that Wal-Mart and China's Great Wall corporation struck a deal to bring inexpensive HD DVD players to market. While this is would be great news for all HD fans, we were left a bit worrisome by the translation dispute between the two camps. Just to make sure we had our facts straight, we updated the post and contacted HD DVD to get the full story. While the HD DVD camp reminded us that they have inexpensive players from China on the way, they weren't able to confirm any "specific reports relating to Wal-Mart". It seems to us that if this were indeed true, that the HD DVD camp would be the first to trumpet its significance to their success in the format war. As much as we all want inexpensive next generation HD disc players, we will just have to wait for something more official before we hold off on our purchases waiting for Wal-Mart."

Yeah cuz Engadget is not biased or anything..The first thing Engadget reported was that is was Blu-ray players...Then when they updated there story and changed it to HD-DVD they said.

"Update: Pull back the reigns HD DVD fanboys, Akihabara now says that they've made a "huge mistake" with their translation: the original source called it "藍光 HD DVD and 藍光 means Blu-RAY." In other words, Blu-ray HD DVD. Huh? Word to the wise: since both formats use blue lasers, it's best to wait for an English press release before either camp celebrates."

HD DVD Fanboys huh?  :roll:

Actually the first article was for HD DVD then Blu ray.  The point is there is no confirmation and its a rumor that can mean alot of different things. Lets wait for confirmation we can all understand before we cite Walmart as a factor in the format war.

[QUOTE="diggyzoom"]

That add-on is garbage. I wouldn't bother buying HD-DVD at all yet without Fox and Disney on board.

 

m3Boarder32

If Walmart sells the 2 million Chinese HD DVD players by the end of the year, Fox and Disney will jump on board. Count on it.

Oh boy...here we go. 

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="diggyzoom"]

That add-on is garbage. I wouldn't bother buying HD-DVD at all yet without Fox and Disney on board.

 

 

ramey70

how many Disney bluray movies are available for purchase?

just curious.

Are you counting Buena Vista as Disney as well?  Before answering any of your questions it's best to establish you're always elusive criteria for acceptable answers.    

using the DISNEY brand that seems to hold so much power..

noone said bluray will "win" becuase of buena vista, do they...;)

hope that clears it up for you...

[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="-supercharged-"][QUOTE="Chris-Hansen"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="-supercharged-"]I still think M$ should release a Blu-Ray drive for the 360. latinrage69

expect it, should the situation warrant it.

If they are really about giving their customers "choice" like they say they do they will release it.

while ms is all about giving people a choice in xbox 360, they have a vested interest in hd dvd. why would they go and kill off something that could potentially make them billions of dollars just to offer a blu-ray player that, just like hd dvd, has a 50% chance of failure and that wont make them a ton of money (because thy have no stock in the survival or victory of bd).

How would HD-DVD make Microsoft "billions" of dollars? They don't hold the patents or royalty rights to it.

they are a founding member and on of the creators of the VC-1 codec used in both hd dvd and bd (hd dvd is more prevailent as it's used in every hd dvd, bd uses mpeg 2 and mpeg 4/AVC or H.264 for most of the titles. few movies in bd use VC-1. the ones that do are from paramount and warner, the neutral companies). granted toshiba will make the most from royalties/licensing fees and reproduction rights, but ms will make a lot of money as well because VC-1 is mandatory for use in hd dvd. all this happens over time, not over night.

But Billions?  Where is your data substantiating such a claim? 

[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="diggyzoom"]

That add-on is garbage. I wouldn't bother buying HD-DVD at all yet without Fox and Disney on board.

 

 

tango90101

how many Disney bluray movies are available for purchase?

just curious.

Are you counting Buena Vista as Disney as well? Before answering any of your questions it's best to establish you're always elusive criteria for acceptable answers.

using the DISNEY brand that seems to hold so much power..

noone said bluray will "win" becuase of buena vista, do they...;)

hope that clears it up for you...

I think many of those who are truly enthusiasts in this hobby, and not raving fanboys such as yourself,  understand that Buena Vista is counted as Disney and thought of as one in the same. 

[QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="-supercharged-"][QUOTE="Chris-Hansen"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="-supercharged-"]I still think M$ should release a Blu-Ray drive for the 360. ramey70

expect it, should the situation warrant it.

If they are really about giving their customers "choice" like they say they do they will release it.

while ms is all about giving people a choice in xbox 360, they have a vested interest in hd dvd. why would they go and kill off something that could potentially make them billions of dollars just to offer a blu-ray player that, just like hd dvd, has a 50% chance of failure and that wont make them a ton of money (because thy have no stock in the survival or victory of bd).

How would HD-DVD make Microsoft "billions" of dollars? They don't hold the patents or royalty rights to it.

they are a founding member and on of the creators of the VC-1 codec used in both hd dvd and bd (hd dvd is more prevailent as it's used in every hd dvd, bd uses mpeg 2 and mpeg 4/AVC or H.264 for most of the titles. few movies in bd use VC-1. the ones that do are from paramount and warner, the neutral companies). granted toshiba will make the most from royalties/licensing fees and reproduction rights, but ms will make a lot of money as well because VC-1 is mandatory for use in hd dvd. all this happens over time, not over night.

But Billions?  Where is your data substantiating such a claim? 

maybe it's the fact MS makes billions quarterly in similar business models...;)

who knows..billions is really a lot...

it's only a guess anway...

[QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="Javy03"]

[QUOTE="Chris-Hansen"]yeah i work at walmart and we couldnt move the thing out of stores here in LA, we had to cut the price almost in half. and i havent heard much about the big hd dvd purchase but i heard they might actually be bluray players from my boss but she said she hasnt heard much she aint an executive. i saw a translation and it said "blue hd player" and that it would be easier to manufacture now that they didnt use cartridges anymore, bluray used to use carts. hd dvd never did.Javy03

Not just that but the HD DVD camp wont even confirm it. Check engadethd.com. It sounds alot like a bad translated rumor.

"The biggest news to hit the format war in some time hit last week with word that Wal-Mart and China's Great Wall corporation struck a deal to bring inexpensive HD DVD players to market. While this is would be great news for all HD fans, we were left a bit worrisome by the translation dispute between the two camps. Just to make sure we had our facts straight, we updated the post and contacted HD DVD to get the full story. While the HD DVD camp reminded us that they have inexpensive players from China on the way, they weren't able to confirm any "specific reports relating to Wal-Mart". It seems to us that if this were indeed true, that the HD DVD camp would be the first to trumpet its significance to their success in the format war. As much as we all want inexpensive next generation HD disc players, we will just have to wait for something more official before we hold off on our purchases waiting for Wal-Mart."

right, but if it were a blu-ray player, don't you think that sony and the BDA would've announced it as soon as possible. remember during CES when they announced early "victory" over hd dvd after only being in the lead of software sales for a couple of weeks? all i'm saying is, wait until there is a proper translation of the article. from what i've heard and read, it's a mistranslation that was suppose to say blue laser or blue light hd dvd player, not blu-ray player. once again, let's just wait until something legitimate comes out.

I never said it was blu ray or that it was even real. I agree we should wait, thats why I referred to it as a rumor. My point is alot of people still believe the Walmart thing is a factor or confirmed when in reality it is just a rumor and it may mean the complete opposite of what HD DVD fans might want it to mean.

actually, wal-mart is a huge factor. they are the largest retail store in the world and the second largest electronics retailer in the US (behind Best Buy.) Disney also has contracts with wal-mart to sell disney exclusive merchandise, like toys, movies, disney branded electronics, etc. if wal-mart goes hd dvd exclusive, which they will announce soon enough, disney will follow suit or risk losing millions in revenue. my guess, wal-mart will sell hd dvd players and disney will go neutral by fall to coincide with the PotC 3 dvd launch.

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="diggyzoom"]

That add-on is garbage. I wouldn't bother buying HD-DVD at all yet without Fox and Disney on board.

 

 

ramey70

how many Disney bluray movies are available for purchase?

just curious.

Are you counting Buena Vista as Disney as well? Before answering any of your questions it's best to establish you're always elusive criteria for acceptable answers.

using the DISNEY brand that seems to hold so much power..

noone said bluray will "win" becuase of buena vista, do they...;)

hope that clears it up for you...

I think many of those who are truly enthusiasts in this hobby, and not raving fanboys such as yourself,  understand that Buena Vista is counted as Disney and thought of as one in the same. 

and this is where you start turning the topic away..

just answer the question: how many disney branded movies are for sale on bluray?

just a numerical response, please...;)

[QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="-supercharged-"][QUOTE="Chris-Hansen"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="-supercharged-"]I still think M$ should release a Blu-Ray drive for the 360. ramey70

expect it, should the situation warrant it.

If they are really about giving their customers "choice" like they say they do they will release it.

while ms is all about giving people a choice in xbox 360, they have a vested interest in hd dvd. why would they go and kill off something that could potentially make them billions of dollars just to offer a blu-ray player that, just like hd dvd, has a 50% chance of failure and that wont make them a ton of money (because thy have no stock in the survival or victory of bd).

How would HD-DVD make Microsoft "billions" of dollars? They don't hold the patents or royalty rights to it.

they are a founding member and on of the creators of the VC-1 codec used in both hd dvd and bd (hd dvd is more prevailent as it's used in every hd dvd, bd uses mpeg 2 and mpeg 4/AVC or H.264 for most of the titles. few movies in bd use VC-1. the ones that do are from paramount and warner, the neutral companies). granted toshiba will make the most from royalties/licensing fees and reproduction rights, but ms will make a lot of money as well because VC-1 is mandatory for use in hd dvd. all this happens over time, not over night.

But Billions? Where is your data substantiating such a claim?

billions may have been too high a guess, but millions is more realistic. 

[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="-supercharged-"][QUOTE="Chris-Hansen"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="-supercharged-"]I still think M$ should release a Blu-Ray drive for the 360. tango90101

expect it, should the situation warrant it.

If they are really about giving their customers "choice" like they say they do they will release it.

while ms is all about giving people a choice in xbox 360, they have a vested interest in hd dvd. why would they go and kill off something that could potentially make them billions of dollars just to offer a blu-ray player that, just like hd dvd, has a 50% chance of failure and that wont make them a ton of money (because thy have no stock in the survival or victory of bd).

How would HD-DVD make Microsoft "billions" of dollars? They don't hold the patents or royalty rights to it.

they are a founding member and on of the creators of the VC-1 codec used in both hd dvd and bd (hd dvd is more prevailent as it's used in every hd dvd, bd uses mpeg 2 and mpeg 4/AVC or H.264 for most of the titles. few movies in bd use VC-1. the ones that do are from paramount and warner, the neutral companies). granted toshiba will make the most from royalties/licensing fees and reproduction rights, but ms will make a lot of money as well because VC-1 is mandatory for use in hd dvd. all this happens over time, not over night.

But Billions? Where is your data substantiating such a claim?

maybe it's the fact MS makes billions quarterly in similar business models...;)

who knows..billions is really a lot...

it's only a guess anway...

Microsoft makes $12 Billion or so each year.  I highly doubt almost 10% of their profits are derived from a simple video compression codec or interactive menu software. 

[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="diggyzoom"]

That add-on is garbage. I wouldn't bother buying HD-DVD at all yet without Fox and Disney on board.

 

 

tango90101

how many Disney bluray movies are available for purchase?

just curious.

Are you counting Buena Vista as Disney as well? Before answering any of your questions it's best to establish you're always elusive criteria for acceptable answers.

using the DISNEY brand that seems to hold so much power..

noone said bluray will "win" becuase of buena vista, do they...;)

hope that clears it up for you...

I think many of those who are truly enthusiasts in this hobby, and not raving fanboys such as yourself, understand that Buena Vista is counted as Disney and thought of as one in the same.

and this is where you start turning the topic away..

just answer the question: how many disney branded movies are for sale on bluray?

just a numerical response, please...;)

Zero. 

Now I'll ask you in the same manner.  How many Disney/Buena Vista movies are available for sale at the present time for Bluray.  A simple numerical response will suffice. 

Zero. 

 

 

Now I'll ask you in the same manner.  How many Disney/Buena Vista movies are available for sale at the present time for Bluray.  A simple numerical response will suffice. 

ramey70

Cars is slated to be released on Blu-Ray on June 5th.

Thats a bonafide Disney flick being released via Buena Vista.

The name is irrelevant, its all Disney either way.