Xbox 360 not designed for MMO

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Supa__Mario"] uncharted 2 cinematic gameplay is nothing special.....mags scale is nothing special....killzone 2 graphics were nothing special......next gen mmorpgs on ps3 are nothing special.......mgs4 flawless framerate was nothing special.........but you know what.....they all have one thing in common......they were all done on the PS3.........this is just the beginning.....soon everyone will see the kind of games the ps3 will produce.....and 360 will be left in the dust.....devs are just realizing this......that is why rockstar is making the ultimate game......that is why crytek is showing off they are touching the edges of ps3s power.....that is why EA has just realized the ps3's potential is not even half touched......sony knew this all along.....1st party devs learned 1st and showed it off a little.....now other devs are seeing seeing this and taking it as example....Supa__Mario

Aren't we getting just a little bit carried away? Nothing has come out of the PS3 as of right now that the 360 couldn't do comparably. There is no point in pulling quotes from publishers or devs either since they will be bias for the system they are deving for (obviously). I think you are giving the console just a little too much credit.

3 years in, isn't this more of the middle?

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="Supa__Mario"]people need to understand....2 years ago....360 and ps3 games were similar.....back then ppl used to say ps3 has barely scratched the surface........but this isnt 2 years ago......now we are seeing what ppl were talking about back then.....now we see games like mag.......and 360 owners just Expect anything they see on the ps3 to be possible on the 360......Supa__Mario

lol at sony fanboys thinking the ps3 magically got so far advanced then the 360 heck why not say ps3 can produce graphics the pc cant even do

[QUOTE="Supa__Mario"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Aren't we getting just a little bit carried away? Nothing has come out of the PS3 as of right now that the 360 couldn't do comparably. There is no point in pulling quotes from publishers or devs either since they will be bias for the system they are deving for (obviously). I think you are giving the console just a little too much credit.

3 years in, isn't this more of the middle?

[QUOTE="Supa__Mario"]people need to understand....2 years ago....360 and ps3 games were similar.....back then ppl used to say ps3 has barely scratched the surface........but this isnt 2 years ago......now we are seeing what ppl were talking about back then.....now we see games like mag.......and 360 owners just Expect anything they see on the ps3 to be possible on the 360......themyth01

WTF

are you saying the scale of MAG is not special, agree the graphics are not high tech as Halo or Killzone

your the most arrogant fanboy I have ever met

I appreciate games coming out from any console

Halo 3 is one the best game out there and so is left for dead and Gears of War

these guy work their ass off on games like these, MAG is a revolutionary game with its scale, it has definitely set the bar high and no one should deny that

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Supa__Mario"] uncharted 2 cinematic gameplay is nothing special.....mags scale is nothing special....killzone 2 graphics were nothing special......next gen mmorpgs on ps3 are nothing special.......mgs4 flawless framerate was nothing special.........but you know what.....they all have one thing in common......they were all done on the PS3.........this is just the beginning.....soon everyone will see the kind of games the ps3 will produce.....and 360 will be left in the dust.....devs are just realizing this......that is why rockstar is making the ultimate game......that is why crytek is showing off they are touching the edges of ps3s power.....that is why EA has just realized the ps3's potential is not even half touched......sony knew this all along.....1st party devs learned 1st and showed it off a little.....now other devs are seeing seeing this and taking it as example....Supa__Mario

Aren't we getting just a little bit carried away? Nothing has come out of the PS3 as of right now that the 360 couldn't do comparably. There is no point in pulling quotes from publishers or devs either since they will be bias for the system they are deving for (obviously). I think you are giving the console just a little too much credit.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Supa__Mario"] this is just the beginning.......Supa__Mario

3 years in, isn't this more of the middle?

The tech is from like, 2005, I don't really think its all that new honestly.

[QUOTE="Khanbhai0"]

[QUOTE="tonyleo01"] my common sense tells me that you're wrong...mitu123

then think a little bit harder

Halo 3

maxium players 16

Gears of War

maxium players 10

compare to PS3 exclusives

Resistance 2

maxium players 60

Killzone 2

maxium players 32

MAG

maxium players 256

so yes only possible on PS3

and Resistance has 60 players and not to mention MAG

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="Supa__Mario"]people need to understand....2 years ago....360 and ps3 games were similar.....back then ppl used to say ps3 has barely scratched the surface........but this isnt 2 years ago......now we are seeing what ppl were talking about back then.....now we see games like mag.......and 360 owners just Expect anything they see on the ps3 to be possible on the 360......Khanbhai0

WTF

are you saying the scale of MAG is not special, agree the graphics are not high tech as Halo or Killzone

your the most arrogant fanboy I have ever met

I appreciate games coming out from any console

Halo 3 is one the best game out there and so is left for dead and Gears of War

these guy work their ass off on games like these, MAG is arevolutionary game with its scale, it hasdefinitelyset the bar high and no one should deny that

Exactly. For an mmo it's nothing special, look at WoW, or the other dozens of MMOs out there, they have huge worlds and a lot of people on at once, heck you can even get some for free now.

Thanks?

Well that makes two of us.

-

Revolutionary? hardly, almost no game nowadays is revolutionary. I know they work hard, not bashing on the game, simply saying how the technology running it is really no different from many other great games out there and definitely not proof that MMOs could only be done on the ps3.

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Khanbhai0"]

then think a little bit harder

Halo 3

maxium players 16

Gears of War

maxium players 10

compare to PS3 exclusives

Resistance 2

maxium players 60

Killzone 2

maxium players 32

MAG

maxium players 256

so yes only possible on PS3

Khanbhai0

and Resistance has 60 players and not to mention MAG

people need to understand....2 years ago....360 and ps3 games were similar.....back then ppl used to say ps3 has barely scratched the surface........but this isnt 2 years ago......now we are seeing what ppl were talking about back then.....now we see games like mag.......and 360 owners just Expect anything they see on the ps3 to be possible on the 360......Supa__Mario

MAG is nothing special, it isn't doing anything different or better than all other games, can't see why people claim this as prove of some ps3 superiority. People may expect same things because as multiplatform have shown the games do look similar if not better on 360 most of the time. Haven't seen anything on the ps3 that could prove it's somehow noticeably better hardware wise. themyth01

WTF

are you saying the scale of MAG is not special, agree the graphics are not high tech as Halo or Killzone

your the most arrogant fanboy I have ever met

I appreciate games coming out from any console

Halo 3 is one the best game out there and so is left for dead and Gears of War

these guy work their ass off on games like these, MAG is arevolutionary game with its scale, it hasdefinitelyset the bar high and no one should deny that

im not believing square enix one bit about this "considering 360 version" story

http://square-enix-news.newslib.com/story/5218-3209935/

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/02/08/square-enix-confirms-new-mmo-for-xbox-360-and-vista-maybe-ps3/

this demo of the game's engine was shown at microsoft's E3 2005 conference

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgtZvn5c4e4

so yeah....give them afew months to announce it again for the 360.

APB

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/e3-report-apb-still-heading-to-360

/thread

SUD123456

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="Khanbhai0"]

WTF

are you saying the scale of MAG is not special, agree the graphics are not high tech as Halo or Killzone

your the most arrogant fanboy I have ever met

I appreciate games coming out from any console

Halo 3 is one the best game out there and so is left for dead and Gears of War

these guy work their ass off on games like these, MAG is arevolutionary game with its scale, it hasdefinitelyset the bar high and no one should deny that

Supa__Mario

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

APB

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/e3-report-apb-still-heading-to-360

/thread

lhughey

@ Supa__Mario

yeah totally agree with you

[QUOTE="fixer293"]Champions online The secret world FF 11 Say this thread is fail.Khanbhai0

and the funny thing is these fanboys are not going through our replies

even though I have addressed their argument onFF 11 in my very first post

fixer293 is like the sixth person to repeat that same Sh@# again and again

And yet you never responded to my post on APB.

And you just ignored the other two games in the above quote: Champions Online and The Secret World.

The hypocrisy is strong in this thread.

[QUOTE="Supa__Mario"]people need to understand....2 years ago....360 and ps3 games were similar.....back then ppl used to say ps3 has barely scratched the surface........but this isnt 2 years ago......now we are seeing what ppl were talking about back then.....now we see games like mag.......and 360 owners just Expect anything they see on the ps3 to be possible on the 360......furomaster_99

I am confuzzled. People are trying to tell me the 360 can't handle MMORPGs that were able to run on the PS2 and Gamecube :| I really am in awe as to hpw the PS3 is susposedly so far ahead of the 360 and yet there has been few games to even showa fraction of what people are saying in terms of power difference. Do you people really think the 360 couldn't handle MAG or FFXIV?

[QUOTE="Khanbhai0"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"] MAG is nothing special, it isn't doing anything different or better than all other games, can't see why people claim this as prove of some ps3 superiority. People may expect same things because as multiplatform have shown the games do look similar if not better on 360 most of the time. Haven't seen anything on the ps3 that could prove it's somehow noticeably better hardware wise. themyth01

WTF

are you saying the scale of MAG is not special, agree the graphics are not high tech as Halo or Killzone

your the most arrogant fanboy I have ever met

I appreciate games coming out from any console

Halo 3 is one the best game out there and so is left for dead and Gears of War

these guy work their ass off on games like these, MAG is arevolutionary game with its scale, it hasdefinitelyset the bar high and no one should deny that

Exactly. For an mmo it's nothing special, look at WoW, or the other dozens of MMOs out there, they have huge worlds and a lot of people on at once, heck you can even get some for free now.

Thanks?

Well that makes two of us.

-

Revolutionary? hardly, almost no game nowadays is revolutionary. I know they work hard, not bashing on the game, simply saying how the technology running it is really no different from many other great games out there and definitely not proof that MMOs could only be done on the ps3.

seriously are you going to compare WoW with MAG

WoW is a role playing game and MAG is a first person shooter

these are two differentgenres, its like comparing apples and oranges

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Khanbhai0"]

then think a little bit harder

Halo 3

maxium players 16

Gears of War

maxium players 10

compare to PS3 exclusives

Resistance 2

maxium players 60

Killzone 2

maxium players 32

MAG

maxium players 256

so yes only possible on PS3

Khanbhai0

and Resistance has 60 players and not to mention MAG

[QUOTE="Supa__Mario"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

3 years in, isn't this more of the middle?

The tech is from like, 2005, I don't really think its all that new honestly.

[QUOTE="themyth01"]

[QUOTE="Khanbhai0"]

WTF

are you saying the scale of MAG is not special, agree the graphics are not high tech as Halo or Killzone

your the most arrogant fanboy I have ever met

I appreciate games coming out from any console

Halo 3 is one the best game out there and so is left for dead and Gears of War

these guy work their ass off on games like these, MAG is arevolutionary game with its scale, it hasdefinitelyset the bar high and no one should deny that

Khanbhai0

Exactly. For an mmo it's nothing special, look at WoW, or the other dozens of MMOs out there, they have huge worlds and a lot of people on at once, heck you can even get some for free now.

Thanks?

Well that makes two of us.

-

Revolutionary? hardly, almost no game nowadays is revolutionary. I know they work hard, not bashing on the game, simply saying how the technology running it is really no different from many other great games out there and definitely not proof that MMOs could only be done on the ps3.

seriously are you going to compare WoW with MAG

WoW is a role playing game and MAG is a first person shooter

these are two differentgenres, its like comparing apples and oranges

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Supa__Mario"] for this brand new technology? no it takes time.....Supa__Mario

The tech is from like, 2005, I don't really think its all that new honestly.

So the argument has changed from new tech to what should I expect? Its not new tech period, its 4 years old bro, I never said it has to be mastered but it certainly isn't new.

Anyway, I suspose this power of the cell non sense is never going to end so meh, I'm done for today.

[QUOTE="Khanbhai0"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"]

Exactly. For an mmo it's nothing special, look at WoW, or the other dozens of MMOs out there, they have huge worlds and a lot of people on at once, heck you can even get some for free now.

Thanks?

Well that makes two of us.

-

Revolutionary? hardly, almost no game nowadays is revolutionary. I know they work hard, not bashing on the game, simply saying how the technology running it is really no different from many other great games out there and definitely not proof that MMOs could only be done on the ps3.

themyth01

seriously are you going to compare WoW with MAG

WoW is a role playing game and MAG is a first person shooter

these are two differentgenres, its like comparing apples and oranges

Don't bother you are wasting your time. You could name a shooter MMO and he would just respond with: yah, but does it start with M? LMAO.

Which is why he won't address APB, Champions Online, The Secret World (action adventure BTW) :)

[QUOTE="Supa__Mario"][QUOTE="themyth01"] MAG is nothing special, it isn't doing anything different or better than all other games, can't see why people claim this as prove of some ps3 superiority. People may expect same things because as multiplatform have shown the games do look similar if not better on 360 most of the time. Haven't seen anything on the ps3 that could prove it's somehow noticeably better hardware wise. ActicEdge

Aren't we getting just a little bit carried away? Nothing has come out of the PS3 as of right now that the 360 couldn't do comparably. There is no point in pulling quotes from publishers or devs either since they will be bias for the system they are deving for (obviously). I think you are giving the console just a little too much credit.

@ Supa__Mario

yeah totally agree with you

[QUOTE="fixer293"]Champions online The secret world FF 11 Say this thread is fail.Khanbhai0

and the funny thing is these fanboys are not going through our replies

even though I have addressed their argument onFF 11 in my very first post

fixer293 is like the sixth person to repeat that same Sh@# again and again

The same way you're choosing to ignore the 360's MMOs, people are choosing to ignore your reasons for ignoring them! Fitting.

At least the 360 has some that you can play, "dated" or not. Does the PS3 have any?

[QUOTE="Khanbhai0"]

@ Supa__Mario

yeah totally agree with you

[QUOTE="fixer293"]Champions online The secret world FF 11 Say this thread is fail.SUD123456

and the funny thing is these fanboys are not going through our replies

even though I have addressed their argument onFF 11 in my very first post

fixer293 is like the sixth person to repeat that same Sh@# again and again

And yet you never responded to my post on APB.

And you just ignored the other two games in the above quote: Champions Online and The Secret World.

The hypocrisy is strong in this thread.

Champions Online and The Secret World both games are not even out yet, I haven't even seen the game play of these games

Marvel Online was alsoannounced on PC, but guess what the game got cancelled

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Supa__Mario"] uncharted 2 cinematic gameplay is nothing special.....mags scale is nothing special....killzone 2 graphics were nothing special......next gen mmorpgs on ps3 are nothing special.......mgs4 flawless framerate was nothing special.........but you know what.....they all have one thing in common......they were all done on the PS3.........this is just the beginning.....soon everyone will see the kind of games the ps3 will produce.....and 360 will be left in the dust.....devs are just realizing this......that is why rockstar is making the ultimate game......that is why crytek is showing off they are touching the edges of ps3s power.....that is why EA has just realized the ps3's potential is not even half touched......sony knew this all along.....1st party devs learned 1st and showed it off a little.....now other devs are seeing seeing this and taking it as example....djsifer01

Aren't we getting just a little bit carried away? Nothing has come out of the PS3 as of right now that the 360 couldn't do comparably. There is no point in pulling quotes from publishers or devs either since they will be bias for the system they are deving for (obviously). I think you are giving the console just a little too much credit.

To be perfectly honest, what you have determined in your mind isn't really important. Constantly devs have said the PS3 and 360 are equal, no game on either console have ever embarassed the other and your personal comparisons are skewed byseveral different factor one being you haven't even played Uncharted 2 and you are not a dev. So yeah, your personal opinion, is rather irrelevant for this type of comparison even if you are enttitled to it.

I thought it was foolishness on part of Square Enix by makingFinal Fantasy XIV Online a PS3 exclusive, since they are third party, plus they have worked with Microsoft, not to mention their fanbase goes well beyond Ps3.

a MMORPG for 360 was under development calledMarvel Universe Online, but that game was canceled forundisclosed reason. On the other DC Universe Online MMORPG for PS3 is on Alpha stage right now.

Final Fantasy XI MMORPG which came out on Xbox 360 is a dated game released on PC way back in 2002, so its clearly not the next generation MMORPG game, so I wont count this one.

so isXbox 360 not designed for MMO

[QUOTE="Khanbhai0"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"]

Exactly. For an mmo it's nothing special, look at WoW, or the other dozens of MMOs out there, they have huge worlds and a lot of people on at once, heck you can even get some for free now.

Thanks?

Well that makes two of us.

-

Revolutionary? hardly, almost no game nowadays is revolutionary. I know they work hard, not bashing on the game, simply saying how the technology running it is really no different from many other great games out there and definitely not proof that MMOs could only be done on the ps3.

themyth01

seriously are you going to compare WoW with MAG

WoW is a role playing game and MAG is a first person shooter

these are two differentgenres, its like comparing apples and oranges

http://e3.gamespot.com/story/6211009/huxley-hands-on-enforcer-deathmatch

read the last paragraph

It should be noted that Ijji.com is bringing over only the PC version of Huxley; the Xbox 360 version's development is being handled by the game's original developer, Webzen, whose plans for the Xbox 360 version are unclear at this point.

and this is a downloadable game:?

I can't really see a console MMO being any good. The control pad just doesn't have enough buttons for it.Lethalhazard

which dev is more credible....the one that says ps3 and 360 are equal back when ps3 technology was only 1-2 years old......or the one that has realized the true power now after seeing examples and the technology has had 4-5 years in working hands..........Supa__Mario

[QUOTE="Supa__Mario"]which dev is more credible....the one that says ps3 and 360 are equal back when ps3 technology was only 1-2 years old......or the one that has realized the true power now after seeing examples and the technology has had 4-5 years in working hands..........twztid13

I read somewhere that they added cell processors in some ibm servers to allow them to Host MMORPGs, so maybe it would make sense, but Im not sure, it might just be a pain in the ass to make it around the XBL structure they might have to go through a hassle they don't want to.

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

[QUOTE="Khanbhai0"]

and the funny thing is these fanboys are not going through our replies

even though I have addressed their argument onFF 11 in my very first post

fixer293 is like the sixth person to repeat that same Sh@# again and again

Khanbhai0

And yet you never responded to my post on APB.

And you just ignored the other two games in the above quote: Champions Online and The Secret World.

The hypocrisy is strong in this thread.

Champions Online and The Secret World both games are not even out yet, I haven't even seen the game play of these games

Marvel Online was alsoannounced on PC, but guess what the game got cancelled

Unlike MAG and FFX XIV and all those other PS3 MMO which are already out, right?;)

As I said, the hypocrisy is strong in this thread...and it is getting stronger.

If the 360 isn't designed for MMO's, then ps3 isn't either. There's really not a significant enough difference between the two where 360 can't play MMO's but ps3 can. Which reminds me, how many MMO's does the ps3 have so far. Oh yea, none.

I can't really see a console MMO being any good. The control pad just doesn't have enough buttons for it.Lethalhazard

it does for FFXI, and I assume 14 will have the same attack system, its not your conventional mmo, its a way harder than any other mmo

that makes no sense at all..of course it can

you think there's some built in limitation that won't let it play them?

CaseyWegner

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Khanbhai0"]

did you even go over my previous posts

FF11, Phantasy Star Online also come out on PS2

again

FF11, Phantasy Star Online is a dated game

Khanbhai0

selective exclusion?

why should I include dated games that originally came out PC/PS2 back in 2001 and 2002 years before the launch of Xbox 360 itself

because they are mmos that are on the 360. :|

Just a comment for all the ignorant discourse and those who propogate MS propoganda: Major universities are using ps3's as a supercomputer...are they doing that with the Xbox? No obviously...they don't have the cell. Say what you want, or what your pride, ego and ignorance demand as subterfuge, but the cell truly is a remarkable piece of technology.

What I find entertaining and a little sad is that 360/ps3 owners are so blind that a discussion on the merits of gpu vs cpu etc, etc is lost. It really is ok to admit the ps3 is capable of things the 360 is not. Has that translated to better games across the board? That's open to debate, the rest of this nonsense is not.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Supa__Mario"] uncharted 2 cinematic gameplay is nothing special.....mags scale is nothing special....killzone 2 graphics were nothing special......next gen mmorpgs on ps3 are nothing special.......mgs4 flawless framerate was nothing special.........but you know what.....they all have one thing in common......they were all done on the PS3.........this is just the beginning.....soon everyone will see the kind of games the ps3 will produce.....and 360 will be left in the dust.....devs are just realizing this......that is why rockstar is making the ultimate game......that is why crytek is showing off they are touching the edges of ps3s power.....that is why EA has just realized the ps3's potential is not even half touched......sony knew this all along.....1st party devs learned 1st and showed it off a little.....now other devs are seeing seeing this and taking it as example....djsifer01

Aren't we getting just a little bit carried away? Nothing has come out of the PS3 as of right now that the 360 couldn't do comparably. There is no point in pulling quotes from publishers or devs either since they will be bias for the system they are deving for (obviously). I think you are giving the console just a little too much credit.

close-minded much? gears 2 looks as good as u2. i cant speak for killzone cause i haven't seen it played.