Not a holiday we share here in the UK but damn, you chaps over the pond sure do love the 360 right now :D
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honestly, if youre going to go with sales to say a console is better, then youre saying that the wii is the greatest console ever.. no real gamer cares about sales. only fanboys do.Sword-DemonAnd companies. And fans of games who hope they get sequels. And statisticians. And developers. And fans of consoles who hope they get certain games that aren't on their system.
[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"]honestly, if youre going to go with sales to say a console is better, then youre saying that the wii is the greatest console ever.. no real gamer cares about sales. only fanboys do.BumFluff122And companies. And fans of games who hope they get sequels. And statisticians. And developers. And fans of consoles who hope they get certain games that aren't on their system. ok, you kinda missed my point. I meant that only fanboys use sales to say one thing is better than another.
ok, you kinda missed my point. I meant that only fanboys use sales to say one thing is better than another.Sword-DemonFanboys use anything at their disposal to show that they are right. They will pick and choose what they want and cut out what they don't want. It's the SW way. It is an interesting statistic though considering the PS3 has been leading the 360 trhoughout the year.
I think you'd have to be quite naieve to not make the connection between what's good for the console maker is good for the gamer. Good sales attracts developers, pays for exclusives etc. etc.
Unless you're Nintendo, they appear to be throwing all the cash under a big mattress and flipping the bird to all their fans :|
[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"]ok, you kinda missed my point. I meant that only fanboys use sales to say one thing is better than another.BumFluff122Fanboys use anything at their disposal to show that they are right. They will pick and choose what they want and cut out what they don't want. It's the SW way. It is an interesting statistic though considering the PS3 has been leading the 360 trhoughout the year. i agree
am happy to see the 360 selling well... since it would encourage MS to keep the console on the market as long as possible while attracting more devs in releasing great titles for the console...
honestly, if youre going to go with sales to say a console is better, then youre saying that the wii is the greatest console ever.. no real gamer cares about sales. only fanboys do.Sword-DemonYet it was all awesome when the PS3 was doing better:|
With the low price and massive MS marketing; expect the gap to grow me thinks.SecretPoliceNo doubt. Christmas will be a slaughter D: MS finally reached the magic price point.
[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]With the low price and massive MS marketing; expect the gap to grow me thinks.JandurinNo doubt. Christmas will be a slaughter D: MS finally reached the magic price point.Not yet, not until the Premium hits $200, thats when ordinary gamers will take more notice
Not yet, not until the Premium hits $200, thats when ordinary gamers will take more noticeFirstDiscoveryOrdinary gamers won't understand the necessity of a 20/60GB hard drive vs. a 512MB memory unit.
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Not yet, not until the Premium hits $200, thats when ordinary gamers will take more noticeRigga911Ordinary gamers won't understand the necessity of a 20/60GB hard drive vs. a 512MB memory unit. if you think people are that dumb than youre dumb God once you go into the workplace you'll how many people are utterly IT incompetant. Alot of parents buying presents for kids will have no concept of the difference.
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Not yet, not until the Premium hits $200, thats when ordinary gamers will take more noticeRigga911Ordinary gamers won't understand the necessity of a 20/60GB hard drive vs. a 512MB memory unit. if you think people are that dumb than youre dumbNO ! He's right and for proof just look at the Wii selling more units @ $249.99 > 360 @ $199.99 with pack in game. :roll:
if you think people are that dumb than youre dumbRigga911:roll: I wish people would stop doubting me on such simple matters. This is common sense. People are idiots.
It stands to reason that people buy the 360 because American game developers build on PCs & 360 & then port to the PS3. PS3 only gets ported games which lack quality over the Microsoft versions. When I was shopping for a console, the first thing I looked at was what consoles American game developers were going to make their games for...the majority stuck with what they already knew: Microsoft.
It stands to reason that people buy the 360 because American game developers build on PCs & 360 & then port to the PS3. PS3 only gets ported games which lack quality over the Microsoft versions. When I was shopping for a console, the first thing I looked at was what consoles American game developers were going to make their games for...the majority stuck with what they already knew: Microsoft.
Eh? :? With one or two exceptions PS3 & 360 multiplats are all but identical. I find it hilarious how the lems & cows squabble over some shadow in a still or a few pixels.
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Not yet, not until the Premium hits $200, thats when ordinary gamers will take more noticeRigga911Ordinary gamers won't understand the necessity of a 20/60GB hard drive vs. a 512MB memory unit. if you think people are that dumb than youre dumb Work in retail for a few weeks, and your faith in humanity will be damaged beyond repair. People ARE that stupid, and then some. Remember that half of the population is BELOW the average IQ, and my GOD does it show.
More console sales = more and better games. A game company looks at this because usually more consoles = more games sold = more money. rrjim1This really isnt applicable anymore because the days of 3rd party exclusives are mostly dead. 90% of MS Exclusives were made in-house (Rare, Lionhead) and 90% of PS3 exclusives were made in-house (Insomniac, Naughty Dog, etc) 99% of 3rd party games are going multiplat because sales from 2/3 systems>>>>>sales from one system, why do you think the Fables and Gears and Mass Effects all go to PC??
[QUOTE="rrjim1"]More console sales = more and better games. A game company looks at this because usually more consoles = more games sold = more money. POJO_MOFOThis really isnt applicable anymore because the days of 3rd party exclusives are mostly dead. 90% of MS Exclusives were made in-house (Rare, Lionhead) and 90% of PS3 exclusives were made in-house (Insomniac, Naughty Dog, etc) 99% of 3rd party games are going multiplat because sales from 2/3 systems>>>>>sales from one system, why do you think the Fables and Gears and Mass Effects all go to PC?? If you take this outside of SW, MS wants games going to PC (esp when they are made for windows). Most people don't care that ME is on 360 & PC. 360 owners bought it on the 360 and people with a PC bought it for the PC. Its only here in SW where (unannouced) delayed exclusives matter for the PC.
I have no doubt that the 360 sold far more than the Ps3, but didnt MS make these claims last year too? And then they turned out to be significantly less when NPD day rolled around?nicenatorI think its just for the 1 weekend rather than the whole month though. I'd be shocked if the 360 outsold the PS3 for all of Nov. by 3 to 1
yeah, many people are put off by the price of the ps3, i mean xbox 360s just went below $300 AUD. Because they are so similar in terms of technology (other than blue ray), people just go with the 360. the real question should be, would you rather have a ps3 or xbox 360 disregarding the priceuberrpinnylahrl
Black Friday is a day for deals, so yea, a $199 system will sell more then a $399 system. How many Elites got sold that day because if you gonna match price then it has to be the PS3 vs. The elite. Most stores didn't even have any PS3's, I work at Circuit City part time, been there for 3 weeks now and we havent had any PS3's, PSP's Wii's or DS's since I been there, only 360's and the elite dont sell well.
People will buy what they want. People buy PS3's because they want one, just like the 360's.
[QUOTE="uberrpinnylahrl"]yeah, many people are put off by the price of the ps3, i mean xbox 360s just went below $300 AUD. Because they are so similar in terms of technology (other than blue ray), people just go with the 360. the real question should be, would you rather have a ps3 or xbox 360 disregarding the priceCubanBlunt
Black Friday is a day for deals, so yea, a $199 system will sell more then a $399 system. How many Elites got sold that day because if you gonna match price then it has to be the PS3 vs. The elite. Most stores didn't even have any PS3's, I work at Circuit City part time, been there for 3 weeks now and we havent had any PS3's, PSP's Wii's or DS's since I been there, only 360's and the elite dont sell well.
People will buy what they want. People buy PS3's because they want one, just like the 360's.
Eh? :? That makes no sense. Its Sony's decision where to price and what to put in their console.I posted on this topic a few weeks ago. I thought PS3 had it for sure earlier this year even with the higher price. Then the worlds financial economy went to heck. Now a lot of people aren't concerned with quality or value, they just want cheap. And you can see it from the way that McDonalds sales have increased, Walmart sales have increased and Xbox sales have increased. EmperorSupremeI love this argument that the 360 is the McDonalds of the console world and the PS3 is some sort of vastly superior product. It's complete nonsense.
The fact the 360 is so cheap is merely a bonus, it's arguabley the better console for gamers this gen regardless of price, especially if you're very into online gaming.
[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"][QUOTE="uberrpinnylahrl"]yeah, many people are put off by the price of the ps3, i mean xbox 360s just went below $300 AUD. Because they are so similar in terms of technology (other than blue ray), people just go with the 360. the real question should be, would you rather have a ps3 or xbox 360 disregarding the priceblue_hazy_basic
Black Friday is a day for deals, so yea, a $199 system will sell more then a $399 system. How many Elites got sold that day because if you gonna match price then it has to be the PS3 vs. The elite. Most stores didn't even have any PS3's, I work at Circuit City part time, been there for 3 weeks now and we havent had any PS3's, PSP's Wii's or DS's since I been there, only 360's and the elite dont sell well.
People will buy what they want. People buy PS3's because they want one, just like the 360's.
Eh? :? That makes no sense. Its Sony's decision where to price and what to put in their console.What makes no since...that people will buy what they want no matter the price?:roll:
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]Eh? :? That makes no sense. Its Sony's decision where to price and what to put in their console.Black Friday is a day for deals, so yea, a $199 system will sell more then a $399 system. How many Elites got sold that day because if you gonna match price then it has to be the PS3 vs. The elite. Most stores didn't even have any PS3's, I work at Circuit City part time, been there for 3 weeks now and we havent had any PS3's, PSP's Wii's or DS's since I been there, only 360's and the elite dont sell well.
People will buy what they want. People buy PS3's because they want one, just like the 360's.
CubanBlunt
What makes no since...that people will buy what they want no matter the price?:roll:
depends on the elasticity of the product[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Not yet, not until the Premium hits $200, thats when ordinary gamers will take more noticeRigga911Ordinary gamers won't understand the necessity of a 20/60GB hard drive vs. a 512MB memory unit. if you think people are that dumb than youre dumb You have obviously never worked in retail have you? Better yet, you've never worked at all have you?
honestly, if youre going to go with sales to say a console is betterSword-Demon
No, he is saying that the 360 is outselling the PS3. He never claimed the 360 was better than the PS3 or the Wii.
For months cows claimed that 08 was the year or the PS3 and the fact that it was outselling the 360 was proof that it was making a comeback.
Now that the comeback has stalled sales don't matter, right?
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]Eh? :? That makes no sense. Its Sony's decision where to price and what to put in their console.Black Friday is a day for deals, so yea, a $199 system will sell more then a $399 system. How many Elites got sold that day because if you gonna match price then it has to be the PS3 vs. The elite. Most stores didn't even have any PS3's, I work at Circuit City part time, been there for 3 weeks now and we havent had any PS3's, PSP's Wii's or DS's since I been there, only 360's and the elite dont sell well.
People will buy what they want. People buy PS3's because they want one, just like the 360's.
CubanBlunt
What makes no since...that people will buy what they want no matter the price?:roll:
What? :?
Look, I don't know what kind of magical fantasy world you live in but people do not just buy whatever they want no matter the price. I'm pretty sure there are a very large number of people that would love to have a million dollar mansion, a Ferrari in their driveway, a 56 inch Plasma in their bathroom (because they've got a 100 incher in the living room) and their own private jet but they don't because the price for those things is far too high.
People buy what they can afford, and often go for the cheaper alternative. In this case, it happens to be the Xbox 360 Arcade. And :lol: for trying to compare sales of the Elite to the sales of the PS3. It's not MS's fault the PS3's cheapest SKU is $400 and sales tracking companies like the NPD and Media create don't count individual SKUs either, they count them all as a whole.
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