Xbox 360 outsells the PS3 THREE-TO-ONE over thanksgiving

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#1 speedsix
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Not a holiday we share here in the UK but damn, you chaps over the pond sure do love the 360 right now :D

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=322769

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honestly, if youre going to go with sales to say a console is better, then youre saying that the wii is the greatest console ever.. no real gamer cares about sales. only fanboys do.
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#3 speedsix
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That may be true if the 360 didn't have lots of good 'core' games (like the Wii)

 

360 and PS3 has a similar amount of good games (most would argue more on the 360) yet it's utterly stomping it in both hardware and software sales.

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honestly, if youre going to go with sales to say a console is better, then youre saying that the wii is the greatest console ever.. no real gamer cares about sales. only fanboys do.Sword-Demon
And companies. And fans of games who hope they get sequels. And statisticians. And developers. And fans of consoles who hope they get certain games that aren't on their system.
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#5 Sword-Demon
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and because they have a similar amount of good games, more people would obviously go for the cheaper one
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[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"]honestly, if youre going to go with sales to say a console is better, then youre saying that the wii is the greatest console ever.. no real gamer cares about sales. only fanboys do.BumFluff122
And companies. And fans of games who hope they get sequels. And statisticians. And developers. And fans of consoles who hope they get certain games that aren't on their system.

ok, you kinda missed my point. I meant that only fanboys use sales to say one thing is better than another.
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honestly, if youre going to go with sales to say a console is better, then youre saying that the wii is the greatest console ever.. no real gamer cares about sales. only fanboys do.Sword-Demon

Wii beats all.....but i thought you cant play sales?

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yeah, many people are put off by the price of the ps3, i mean xbox 360s just went below $300 AUD. Because they are so similar in terms of technology (other than blue ray), people just go with the 360. the real question should be, would you rather have a ps3 or xbox 360 disregarding the price
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ok, you kinda missed my point. I meant that only fanboys use sales to say one thing is better than another.Sword-Demon
Fanboys use anything at their disposal to show that they are right. They will pick and choose what they want and cut out what they don't want. It's the SW way. It is an interesting statistic though considering the PS3 has been leading the 360 trhoughout the year.
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#11 speedsix
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I think you'd have to be quite naieve to not make the connection between what's good for the console maker is good for the gamer. Good sales attracts developers, pays for exclusives etc. etc.

 

Unless you're Nintendo, they appear to be throwing all the cash under a big mattress and flipping the bird to all their fans :|

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[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"]ok, you kinda missed my point. I meant that only fanboys use sales to say one thing is better than another.BumFluff122
Fanboys use anything at their disposal to show that they are right. They will pick and choose what they want and cut out what they don't want. It's the SW way. It is an interesting statistic though considering the PS3 has been leading the 360 trhoughout the year.

i agree
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am happy to see the 360 selling well... since it would encourage MS to keep the console on the market as long as possible while attracting more devs in releasing great titles for the console...

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honestly, if youre going to go with sales to say a console is better, then youre saying that the wii is the greatest console ever.. no real gamer cares about sales. only fanboys do.Sword-Demon
Yet it was all awesome when the PS3 was doing better:|
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yeah, the ps3 really needs a price cut... hopefully they'll do it in march
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More console sales = more and better games. A game company looks at this because usually more consoles = more games sold = more money.
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With the low price and massive MS marketing; expect the gap to grow me thinks.
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With the low price and massive MS marketing; expect the gap to grow me thinks.SecretPolice
No doubt. Christmas will be a slaughter D: MS finally reached the magic price point.
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]With the low price and massive MS marketing; expect the gap to grow me thinks.Jandurin
No doubt. Christmas will be a slaughter D: MS finally reached the magic price point.

Not yet, not until the Premium hits $200, thats when ordinary gamers will take more notice
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Not yet, not until the Premium hits $200, thats when ordinary gamers will take more noticeFirstDiscovery
Ordinary gamers won't understand the necessity of a 20/60GB hard drive vs. a 512MB memory unit.
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honestly, if youre going to go with sales to say a console is better, then youre saying that the wii is the greatest console ever.. no real gamer cares about sales. only fanboys do.Sword-Demon
he didnt say anythign about beng better ....
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Not yet, not until the Premium hits $200, thats when ordinary gamers will take more noticeRigga911
Ordinary gamers won't understand the necessity of a 20/60GB hard drive vs. a 512MB memory unit.

if you think people are that dumb than youre dumb

God once you go into the workplace you'll how many people are utterly IT incompetant. Alot of parents buying presents for kids will have no concept of the difference.
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#24 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Not yet, not until the Premium hits $200, thats when ordinary gamers will take more noticeRigga911
Ordinary gamers won't understand the necessity of a 20/60GB hard drive vs. a 512MB memory unit.

if you think people are that dumb than youre dumb

NO ! He's right and for proof just look at the Wii selling more units @ $249.99 > 360 @ $199.99 with pack in game. :roll:
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The link didn't work for me, so heres the full story: Microsoft has trumpeted the biggest-ever sales of Xbox 360 over the Thanksgiving holiday weekend in the US, claiming a three-to-one advantage over PlayStation 3. The weekend, known as Black Friday, is traditionally one of the biggest shopping weekends of the year for our American cousins. According to the press release, retailers told the software giant that they'd sold 25 per cent more 360s over the Black Friday weekend than they had in 2007, and three times as many units as Sony's machine. After recent price cuts, the Xbox 360 costs USD 200 to 400, depending on the version, versus USD 400 or 500 for a PS3. Similar price cuts in Europe have led to a 400 per cent increase in sales in some cases, Microsoft said. European sales are "nearly double" last year's figures and approaching 7 million units in all. The press release's most outlandish claim was that Xbox 360 has "more broad-appeal social titles than any other platform" - an opinion that might raise some eyebrows at Nintendo. "We entered into the Black Friday sales period with cautious optimism, knowing that dollar for dollar, Xbox 360 offers more social entertainment value than any other console on the market," crowed Xbox boss Don Mattrick. "Record Black Friday sales in the US, coupled with our existing global install base of 25 million and an online community of more than 14 million Xbox LIVE members, have laid the groundwork for continued global sales momentum in 2009," he said.
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if you think people are that dumb than youre dumbRigga911
:roll: I wish people would stop doubting me on such simple matters. This is common sense. People are idiots.
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It stands to reason that people buy the 360 because American game developers build on PCs & 360 & then port to the PS3.  PS3 only gets ported games which lack quality over the Microsoft versions.  When I was shopping for a console, the first thing I looked at was what consoles American game developers were going to make their games for...the majority stuck with what they already knew: Microsoft.

 

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[QUOTE="jknight5422"]

It stands to reason that people buy the 360 because American game developers build on PCs & 360 & then port to the PS3.  PS3 only gets ported games which lack quality over the Microsoft versions.  When I was shopping for a console, the first thing I looked at was what consoles American game developers were going to make their games for...the majority stuck with what they already knew: Microsoft.

 

Eh? :? With one or two exceptions PS3 & 360 multiplats are all but identical. I find it hilarious how the lems & cows squabble over some shadow in a still or a few pixels.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Not yet, not until the Premium hits $200, thats when ordinary gamers will take more noticeRigga911
Ordinary gamers won't understand the necessity of a 20/60GB hard drive vs. a 512MB memory unit.

if you think people are that dumb than youre dumb

Work in retail for a few weeks, and your faith in humanity will be damaged beyond repair. People ARE that stupid, and then some. Remember that half of the population is BELOW the average IQ, and my GOD does it show.
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More console sales = more and better games. A game company looks at this because usually more consoles = more games sold = more money. rrjim1
This really isnt applicable anymore because the days of 3rd party exclusives are mostly dead. 90% of MS Exclusives were made in-house (Rare, Lionhead) and 90% of PS3 exclusives were made in-house (Insomniac, Naughty Dog, etc) 99% of 3rd party games are going multiplat because sales from 2/3 systems>>>>>sales from one system, why do you think the Fables and Gears and Mass Effects all go to PC??
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[QUOTE="rrjim1"]More console sales = more and better games. A game company looks at this because usually more consoles = more games sold = more money. POJO_MOFO
This really isnt applicable anymore because the days of 3rd party exclusives are mostly dead. 90% of MS Exclusives were made in-house (Rare, Lionhead) and 90% of PS3 exclusives were made in-house (Insomniac, Naughty Dog, etc) 99% of 3rd party games are going multiplat because sales from 2/3 systems>>>>>sales from one system, why do you think the Fables and Gears and Mass Effects all go to PC??

If you take this outside of SW, MS wants games going to PC (esp when they are made for windows). Most people don't care that ME is on 360 & PC. 360 owners bought it on the 360 and people with a PC bought it for the PC. Its only here in SW where (unannouced) delayed exclusives matter for the PC.
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I have no doubt that the 360 sold far more than the Ps3, but didnt MS make these claims last year too? And then they turned out to be significantly less when NPD day rolled around?
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I have no doubt that the 360 sold far more than the Ps3, but didnt MS make these claims last year too? And then they turned out to be significantly less when NPD day rolled around?nicenator
I think its just for the 1 weekend rather than the whole month though. I'd be shocked if the 360 outsold the PS3 for all of Nov. by 3 to 1
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I posted on this topic a few weeks ago. I thought PS3 had it for sure earlier this year even with the higher price. Then the worlds financial economy went to heck. Now a lot of people aren't concerned with quality or value, they just want cheap. And you can see it from the way that McDonalds sales have increased, Walmart sales have increased and Xbox sales have increased.
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Saw this coming. I honestly don't understand people who thought the PS3 would magically take over this year. It's a great system and I love it but let's be honest, that $199 360 price is going to kill them this holiday.
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yeah, many people are put off by the price of the ps3, i mean xbox 360s just went below $300 AUD. Because they are so similar in terms of technology (other than blue ray), people just go with the 360. the real question should be, would you rather have a ps3 or xbox 360 disregarding the priceuberrpinnylahrl

Black Friday is a day for deals, so yea, a $199 system will sell more then a $399 system. How many Elites got sold that day because if you gonna match price then it has to be the PS3 vs. The elite. Most stores didn't even have any PS3's, I work at Circuit City part time, been there for 3 weeks now and we havent had any PS3's, PSP's Wii's or DS's since I been there, only 360's and the elite dont sell well.

People will buy what they want. People buy PS3's because they want one, just like the 360's.

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Duhh it's cheaper. Sony can't drop the price. Let them do what they need to do.... but as an owner of both, I think you get more your money with the PS3.
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[QUOTE="uberrpinnylahrl"]yeah, many people are put off by the price of the ps3, i mean xbox 360s just went below $300 AUD. Because they are so similar in terms of technology (other than blue ray), people just go with the 360. the real question should be, would you rather have a ps3 or xbox 360 disregarding the priceCubanBlunt

Black Friday is a day for deals, so yea, a $199 system will sell more then a $399 system. How many Elites got sold that day because if you gonna match price then it has to be the PS3 vs. The elite. Most stores didn't even have any PS3's, I work at Circuit City part time, been there for 3 weeks now and we havent had any PS3's, PSP's Wii's or DS's since I been there, only 360's and the elite dont sell well.

People will buy what they want. People buy PS3's because they want one, just like the 360's.

Eh? :? That makes no sense. Its Sony's decision where to price and what to put in their console.
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I posted on this topic a few weeks ago. I thought PS3 had it for sure earlier this year even with the higher price. Then the worlds financial economy went to heck. Now a lot of people aren't concerned with quality or value, they just want cheap. And you can see it from the way that McDonalds sales have increased, Walmart sales have increased and Xbox sales have increased. EmperorSupreme
I love this argument that the 360 is the McDonalds of the console world and the PS3 is some sort of vastly superior product. It's complete nonsense.

The fact the 360 is so cheap is merely a bonus, it's arguabley the better console for gamers this gen regardless of price, especially if you're very into online gaming.

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[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

[QUOTE="uberrpinnylahrl"]yeah, many people are put off by the price of the ps3, i mean xbox 360s just went below $300 AUD. Because they are so similar in terms of technology (other than blue ray), people just go with the 360. the real question should be, would you rather have a ps3 or xbox 360 disregarding the priceblue_hazy_basic

Black Friday is a day for deals, so yea, a $199 system will sell more then a $399 system. How many Elites got sold that day because if you gonna match price then it has to be the PS3 vs. The elite. Most stores didn't even have any PS3's, I work at Circuit City part time, been there for 3 weeks now and we havent had any PS3's, PSP's Wii's or DS's since I been there, only 360's and the elite dont sell well.

People will buy what they want. People buy PS3's because they want one, just like the 360's.

Eh? :? That makes no sense. Its Sony's decision where to price and what to put in their console.

What makes no since...that people will buy what they want no matter the price?:roll:

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yay, more screaming kids on LIVE when my friends arent online.
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Not a holiday we share here in the UK but damn, you chaps over the pond sure do love the 360 right now :D

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=322769

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

Black Friday is a day for deals, so yea, a $199 system will sell more then a $399 system. How many Elites got sold that day because if you gonna match price then it has to be the PS3 vs. The elite. Most stores didn't even have any PS3's, I work at Circuit City part time, been there for 3 weeks now and we havent had any PS3's, PSP's Wii's or DS's since I been there, only 360's and the elite dont sell well.

People will buy what they want. People buy PS3's because they want one, just like the 360's.

CubanBlunt

Eh? :? That makes no sense. Its Sony's decision where to price and what to put in their console.

What makes no since...that people will buy what they want no matter the price?:roll:

depends on the elasticity of the product
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Not yet, not until the Premium hits $200, thats when ordinary gamers will take more noticeRigga911
Ordinary gamers won't understand the necessity of a 20/60GB hard drive vs. a 512MB memory unit.

if you think people are that dumb than youre dumb

You have obviously never worked in retail have you? Better yet, you've never worked at all have you?
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Better yet, you've never worked at all have you?The_Game21x
That's exactly what I was thinking.
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*cough* He gave a 10 to an Atari game called Ninja Golf. lulz http://www.gamespot.com/atari7800/action/ninjagolf/player_review.html?id=627005&tag=all-about;review1
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honestly, if youre going to go with sales to say a console is betterSword-Demon

No, he is saying that the 360 is outselling the PS3. He never claimed the 360 was better than the PS3 or the Wii.

For months cows claimed that 08 was the year or the PS3 and the fact that it was outselling the 360 was proof that it was making a comeback.

Now that the comeback has stalled sales don't matter, right?

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Sheep argue sales = Lame.

Lems argue sale = hardcore! :roll:

I thought sales didn't matter?

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

Black Friday is a day for deals, so yea, a $199 system will sell more then a $399 system. How many Elites got sold that day because if you gonna match price then it has to be the PS3 vs. The elite. Most stores didn't even have any PS3's, I work at Circuit City part time, been there for 3 weeks now and we havent had any PS3's, PSP's Wii's or DS's since I been there, only 360's and the elite dont sell well.

People will buy what they want. People buy PS3's because they want one, just like the 360's.

CubanBlunt

Eh? :? That makes no sense. Its Sony's decision where to price and what to put in their console.

What makes no since...that people will buy what they want no matter the price?:roll:

What? :?

Look, I don't know what kind of magical fantasy world you live in but people do not just buy whatever they want no matter the price. I'm pretty sure there are a very large number of people that would love to have a million dollar mansion, a Ferrari in their driveway, a 56 inch Plasma in their bathroom (because they've got a 100 incher in the living room) and their own private jet but they don't because the price for those things is far too high.

People buy what they can afford, and often go for the cheaper alternative. In this case, it happens to be the Xbox 360 Arcade. And :lol: for trying to compare sales of the Elite to the sales of the PS3. It's not MS's fault the PS3's cheapest SKU is $400 and sales tracking companies like the NPD and Media create don't count individual SKUs either, they count them all as a whole.

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#50 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Rigga911"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] Ordinary gamers won't understand the necessity of a 20/60GB hard drive vs. a 512MB memory unit.

if you think people are that dumb than youre dumb

You have obviously never worked in retail have you? Better yet, you've never worked at all have you?

Oh, do let us continue our rant of the idiocy of the human race. :D