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#51 W1NGMAN-
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Beginning of the year..

Lems "Who cares about sales" "Can I play sales? NO!"

The end of the year...

Lems "LOL the 360 is pwning the PS3 in sales" "PS3 is doomed"

:roll:

I guess once the PS3 has a price drop and continues to outsell the 360 again we'll go back to not caring about sells again, right lems?

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#52 The_Game21x
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Sheep argue sales = Lame.

Lems argue sale = hardcore! :roll:

I thought sales didn't matter?

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Tell that to all the PS3 fans that bring them up the second the PS3 starts winning and then downplay them all other times...well, like you're doing now. :wink:
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#53 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

Sheep argue sales = Lame.

Lems argue sale = hardcore! :roll:

I thought sales didn't matter?

Console sales matter far less than game sales. Otherwise, fair enough. Anyway, what Sheep talks about sales anymore? Everyone knows the Wii has sold more than the 360 and PS3 combined.
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[QUOTE="jknight5422"]

It stands to reason that people buy the 360 because American game developers build on PCs & 360 & then port to the PS3. PS3 only gets ported games which lack quality over the Microsoft versions. When I was shopping for a console, the first thing I looked at was what consoles American game developers were going to make their games for...the majority stuck with what they already knew: Microsoft.

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Eh? :? With one or two exceptions PS3 & 360 multiplats are all but identical. I find it hilarious how the lems & cows squabble over some shadow in a still or a few pixels.

One or two exceptions? Okey-dokey.

But it goes deeper than how the two versions might end up looking.

Take a look at this:

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/11/28/destroy-all-humans-ps3-still-coming-to-europe

"THQ has informed Eurogamer that the PlayStation 3 version of earthling annihilation sim Destroy All Humans! Path of the Furon, isn't quite as canceled we were lead to believe. It's still on track for a European release, joining its Xbox 360 sibling on shelves next year, February 13th. Is that enough time to sort out those "development issues?" "

Developers often have problems (development issues) with the PS3 version. Sometimes they overcome those issues and end up with a more or less identical version of a game...and sometimes (to often to blame it on lazy devs) they end up with delays, buggy games or visually inferior versions of the PS3 game.

Downplay it all you want, but the truth is the truth.

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#55 Pimpshigity21
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Beginning of the year..

Lems "Who cares about sales" "Can I play sales? NO!"W1NGMAN-

Lies...lies...lies.

Lemms care about sales...it is one of our major arguments. There are more 360 out in the world than there are PS3s. End of story. The 360 is beating the PS3, which lingers in last place. Why would lemmings downplay sales?

The only ones that say "Can I play sales" are cows...what else can they say?

The end of the year...

Lems "LOL the 360 is pwning the PS3 in sales" "PS3 is doomed"

:roll:W1NGMAN-

Well, you can rolley eyes all you want,but in the end the facts are facts. The 360 is indeed pwning the PS3 this holiday season...both in the US and Europe. Is the PS3 doomed? I'm not sure, but things are not looking good for Sony.

I guess once the PS3 has a price drop and continues to outsell the 360 again we'll go back to not caring about sells again, right lems?

W1NGMAN-

Just wait, right? The price drop is supposed to happen in March...well, people usually don't not buy consoles in March, especially with a bad economic recession making people nervous.

Pound you chest all you want; the truth is...those 130 million PS2 owners are not going to buy a PS3 in March...and people are not going to stop buying the cheaper 360 just because Sony dropped their price.

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TBH If the prices were reversed, I would still buy the 360, BUT would be lonesome coz all my friends would've bought the the PS3 instead. Which means I'd be owning both systems but playing my 360 more for the single player games, and the PS3 for mp's.
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

Beginning of the year..

Lems "Who cares about sales" "Can I play sales? NO!"

The end of the year...

Lems "LOL the 360 is pwning the PS3 in sales" "PS3 is doomed"

:roll:

I guess once the PS3 has a price drop and continues to outsell the 360 again we'll go back to not caring about sells again, right lems?

It is almost as if you are ignorant of the fact that I could take the same timeline, invert the claim, and replace "lemming" with "cow." I've got no problem pointing out hypocricy, just as long as you don't forget that both sides do it in equal measure. Failure to do so strips all credibility.
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TBH If the prices were reversed, I would still buy the 360, BUT would be lonesome coz all my friends would've bought the the PS3 instead. Which means I'd be owning both systems but playing my 360 more for the single player games, and the PS3 for mp's. Rumble_Stud

Thats the crazy thing...this gen should have been dominated by Sony, but they made mistakes with Blu-ray and the price. Because of those mistakes the prices could never be reversed. If not for Blu-ray, the PS3 launch would not have been delayed...and the price could probably be around $200 now.

What a way to flush market share down the toilet.

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Wii beats all.....but i thought you cant play sales?caligamer
Fanboys say otherwise.
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[QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="jknight5422"]

It stands to reason that people buy the 360 because American game developers build on PCs & 360 & then port to the PS3. PS3 only gets ported games which lack quality over the Microsoft versions. When I was shopping for a console, the first thing I looked at was what consoles American game developers were going to make their games for...the majority stuck with what they already knew: Microsoft.

Eh? :? With one or two exceptions PS3 & 360 multiplats are all but identical. I find it hilarious how the lems & cows squabble over some shadow in a still or a few pixels.

One or two exceptions? Okey-dokey.

But it goes deeper than how the two versions might end up looking.

Take a look at this:

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/11/28/destroy-all-humans-ps3-still-coming-to-europe

"THQ has informed Eurogamer that the PlayStation 3 version of earthling annihilation sim Destroy All Humans! Path of the Furon, isn't quite as canceled we were lead to believe. It's still on track for a European release, joining its Xbox 360 sibling on shelves next year, February 13th. Is that enough time to sort out those "development issues?" "

Developers often have problems (development issues) with the PS3 version. Sometimes they overcome those issues and end up with a more or less identical version of a game...and sometimes (to often to blame it on lazy devs) they end up with delays, buggy games or visually inferior versions of the PS3 game.

Downplay it all you want, but the truth is the truth.

Firstly what am I downplaying? I own a 360, Wii and PC, I don't even own a PS3 Secondly, Destroy all humans 3, really? That game is going to be awful, I guess they couldn't be bothered, mostly due to cost, to port the game. Who even cared about it until they heard that news? I won't argue with you about issues developing on the PS3, its well known, but honestly how many games in the last 12 months have there been other than superficial differences between the 360 and PS3? Maybe 2?
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they obviously havent played on a 360 since the horrible NXE came out i didnt buy a nintendo 360 .. i bought a microsoft xbox 360 gotta sell it
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[QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Eh? :? With one or two exceptions PS3 & 360 multiplats are all but identical. I find it hilarious how the lems & cows squabble over some shadow in a still or a few pixels.blue_hazy_basic

One or two exceptions? Okey-dokey.

But it goes deeper than how the two versions might end up looking.

Take a look at this:

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/11/28/destroy-all-humans-ps3-still-coming-to-europe

"THQ has informed Eurogamer that the PlayStation 3 version of earthling annihilation sim Destroy All Humans! Path of the Furon, isn't quite as canceled we were lead to believe. It's still on track for a European release, joining its Xbox 360 sibling on shelves next year, February 13th. Is that enough time to sort out those "development issues?" "

Developers often have problems (development issues) with the PS3 version. Sometimes they overcome those issues and end up with a more or less identical version of a game...and sometimes (to often to blame it on lazy devs) they end up with delays, buggy games or visually inferior versions of the PS3 game.

Downplay it all you want, but the truth is the truth.

Firstly what am I downplaying? I own a 360, Wii and PC, I don't even own a PS3 Secondly, Destroy all humans 3, really? That game is going to be awful, I guess they couldn't be bothered, mostly due to cost, to port the game. Who even cared about it until they heard that news? I won't argue with you about issues developing on the PS3, its well known, but honestly how many games in the last 12 months have there been other than superficial differences between the 360 and PS3? Maybe 2?

It does not matter that Humans is a crappy game....what matters here is the fact that studios have development issues with the PS3 version of multiplatform games. There are development issues with good games (Fallout 3) and there are development issues with awful games (Destroy all Humans). These issues are not the end of the world either...but they exist...and to say ony 2 games had problems is downplaying the things a bit. Like you said, those issues are well known.

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they obviously havent played on a 360 since the horrible NXE came out i didnt buy a nintendo 360 .. i bought a microsoft xbox 360 gotta sell itdoll94
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Thats the crazy thing...this gen should have been dominated by Sony, but they made mistakes with Blu-ray and the price. Because of those mistakes the prices could never be reversed. If not for Blu-ray, the PS3 launch would not have been delayed...and the price could probably be around $200 now.

What a way to flush market share down the toilet.

Pimpshigity21

Agreed. It's almost as if they're failing BECAUSE they thought too far ahead. Great idea, brilliant even considering blue-ray is now the format of choice, but still very new compared to dvd. Then obviously fell victim to economy and just plain ole bad timing.

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The Chevy Chevette outsold the Corvette, does that mean the Chevette is better?, No it's just cheaper. The American consumer was never the brightest to begin with anyway.
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The Chevy Chevette outsold the Corvette, does that mean the Chevette is better?, No it's just cheaper. The American consumer was never the brightest to begin with anyway.PvtGump8
:roll: American consumers are just as bright or brighter than any other country's consumer. And the 360 is selling better because it's cheaper AND better.
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[QUOTE="PvtGump8"]The Chevy Chevette outsold the Corvette, does that mean the Chevette is better?, No it's just cheaper. The American consumer was never the brightest to begin with anyway.Jandurin
:roll: American consumers are just as bright or brighter than any other country's consumer. And the 360 is selling better because it's cheaper AND better.

Cheaper is one thing Better on the other hand is another lol.
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Cheaper is one thing Better on the other hand is another lol.Unforgiven2870
Right. One is a fact, and one is an opinion. I hope that guy understands that.
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honestly, if youre going to go with sales to say a console is better, then youre saying that the wii is the greatest console ever.. no real gamer cares about sales. only fanboys do.Sword-Demon

You obviously know little about the videogaming industry. Thank you for expressing that.

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[QUOTE="PvtGump8"]The Chevy Chevette outsold the Corvette, does that mean the Chevette is better?, No it's just cheaper. The American consumer was never the brightest to begin with anyway.Jandurin
:roll: American consumers are just as bright or brighter than any other country's consumer. And the 360 is selling better because it's cheaper AND better.

True, it's alot cheaper to make and has a hell of alot better chance of early death.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="PvtGump8"]The Chevy Chevette outsold the Corvette, does that mean the Chevette is better?, No it's just cheaper. The American consumer was never the brightest to begin with anyway.PvtGump8

:roll: American consumers are just as bright or brighter than any other country's consumer. And the 360 is selling better because it's cheaper AND better.

True, it's alot cheaper to make and has a hell of alot better chance of early death.

Chevette had 4 doors and back seats. Does the corvette? The 360, arguably, plays better games, and has a better online service.
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honestly, if youre going to go with sales to say a console is better, then youre saying that the wii is the greatest console ever.. no real gamer cares about sales. only fanboys do.Sword-Demon
it's actually the opposite. it's usually the fanboys that try to play down sales in my experience... because it takes away from their argument re: their console of choice. not directed at you - just at years of experience in SW. the Wii will be the winner of this gen whether you like it or not. and it still has plenty of time to beat out the PS3 library to take away any other arguments you'd have as to why it's inferior.
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[QUOTE="doll94"]they obviously havent played on a 360 since the horrible NXE came out i didnt buy a nintendo 360 .. i bought a microsoft xbox 360 gotta sell it

who the hell sells a console over a dashboard? nobody. ty.
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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]I posted on this topic a few weeks ago. I thought PS3 had it for sure earlier this year even with the higher price. Then the worlds financial economy went to heck. Now a lot of people aren't concerned with quality or value, they just want cheap. And you can see it from the way that McDonalds sales have increased, Walmart sales have increased and Xbox sales have increased. speedsix

I love this argument that the 360 is the McDonalds of the console world and the PS3 is some sort of vastly superior product. It's complete nonsense.

The fact the 360 is so cheap is merely a bonus, it's arguabley the better console for gamers this gen regardless of price, especially if you're very into online gaming.

I'd say if you're into online gaming then it's a no brainer to go with PS3, then it actually works out to cost less. Of course that's a value proposition, most walmart shoppers don't understand that.
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I'd say if you're into online gaming then it's a no brainer to go with PS3, then it actually works out to cost less. Of course that's a value proposition, most walmart shoppers don't understand that.EmperorSupreme
funny, I was thinking that if you were into online gaming the 360 would be the obvious choice
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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]I'd say if you're into online gaming then it's a no brainer to go with PS3, then it actually works out to cost less. Of course that's a value proposition, most walmart shoppers don't understand that.Jandurin
funny, I was thinking that if you were into online gaming the 360 would be the obvious choice

Same here.
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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]I'd say if you're into online gaming then it's a no brainer to go with PS3, then it actually works out to cost less. Of course that's a value proposition, most walmart shoppers don't understand that.Jandurin
funny, I was thinking that if you were into online gaming the 360 would be the obvious choice

Problem with X360 is only gamers are online, while with PS3 nearly everyone is. For example my brother only plays games maybe a few times a month. With X360 it would not be worth it to him to spend the money to play online, but with PS3 we can still get online together occasionally. That's a big benefit. Thats my big gripe with the online for X360, it's really not even the money just that it eliminates a lot of people from joining the community.
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[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Eh? :? That makes no sense. Its Sony's decision where to price and what to put in their console.The_Game21x

What makes no since...that people will buy what they want no matter the price?:roll:

What? :?

Look, I don't know what kind of magical fantasy world you live in but people do not just buy whatever they want no matter the price. I'm pretty sure there are a very large number of people that would love to have a million dollar mansion, a Ferrari in their driveway, a 56 inch Plasma in their bathroom (because they've got a 100 incher in the living room) and their own private jet but they don't because the price for those things is far too high.

People buy what they can afford, and often go for the cheaper alternative. In this case, it happens to be the Xbox 360 Arcade. And :lol: for trying to compare sales of the Elite to the sales of the PS3. It's not MS's fault the PS3's cheapest SKU is $400 and sales tracking companies like the NPD and Media create don't count individual SKUs either, they count them all as a whole.

LOL, You are too funny. CLEARLY people buy what they can aford:lol:, and its not always the cheapest, I drive a Audi because I can aford to, I had all 3 system because I can aford them. People buy what they want, no matter the price...sorry, what they can aford:roll:

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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

What makes no since...that people will buy what they want no matter the price?:roll:

CubanBlunt

What? :?

Look, I don't know what kind of magical fantasy world you live in but people do not just buy whatever they want no matter the price. I'm pretty sure there are a very large number of people that would love to have a million dollar mansion, a Ferrari in their driveway, a 56 inch Plasma in their bathroom (because they've got a 100 incher in the living room) and their own private jet but they don't because the price for those things is far too high.

People buy what they can afford, and often go for the cheaper alternative. In this case, it happens to be the Xbox 360 Arcade. And :lol: for trying to compare sales of the Elite to the sales of the PS3. It's not MS's fault the PS3's cheapest SKU is $400 and sales tracking companies like the NPD and Media create don't count individual SKUs either, they count them all as a whole.

LOL, You are too funny. CLEARLY people buy what they can aford:lol:, and its not always the cheapest, I drive a Audi because I can aford to, I had all 3 system because I can aford them. People buy what they want, no matter the price...sorry, what they can aford:roll:

why are people ignoring me? it's called elasticity people, different products, different target audience, cost of opportunities anyone?

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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

What makes no since...that people will buy what they want no matter the price?:roll:

CubanBlunt

What? :?

Look, I don't know what kind of magical fantasy world you live in but people do not just buy whatever they want no matter the price. I'm pretty sure there are a very large number of people that would love to have a million dollar mansion, a Ferrari in their driveway, a 56 inch Plasma in their bathroom (because they've got a 100 incher in the living room) and their own private jet but they don't because the price for those things is far too high.

People buy what they can afford, and often go for the cheaper alternative. In this case, it happens to be the Xbox 360 Arcade. And :lol: for trying to compare sales of the Elite to the sales of the PS3. It's not MS's fault the PS3's cheapest SKU is $400 and sales tracking companies like the NPD and Media create don't count individual SKUs either, they count them all as a whole.

LOL, You are too funny. CLEARLY people buy what they can aford:lol:, and its not always the cheapest, I drive a Audi because I can aford to, I had all 3 system because I can aford them. People buy what they want, no matter the price...sorry, what they can aford:roll:

Dude, You do realize that you saying you buy what you can afford completely contradicts everything you said earlier right? :| If price was no object to the majority of people, then why is it that people are choosing the Xbox 360 over the PS3 or the Wii over both of them? You do realize that saying people buy what they want no matter the price assumes that price is no object, right? Do you buy whatever you want assuming price is no object? No, I'm sure you don't. Not unless you have millions of dollars in an offshore bank account that I don't know about. And if that's the case, then what the hell are you wasting time here for? I own all three consoles and a nice HDTV because I can afford to buy them, not because the price didn't matter. Some folks aren't as fortunate as I am to be able to do that and that's what I'm trying to prove. It's a simple concept that seems to have sailed right over your head. Again.
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[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

What? :?

Look, I don't know what kind of magical fantasy world you live in but people do not just buy whatever they want no matter the price. I'm pretty sure there are a very large number of people that would love to have a million dollar mansion, a Ferrari in their driveway, a 56 inch Plasma in their bathroom (because they've got a 100 incher in the living room) and their own private jet but they don't because the price for those things is far too high.

People buy what they can afford, and often go for the cheaper alternative. In this case, it happens to be the Xbox 360 Arcade. And :lol: for trying to compare sales of the Elite to the sales of the PS3. It's not MS's fault the PS3's cheapest SKU is $400 and sales tracking companies like the NPD and Media create don't count individual SKUs either, they count them all as a whole.

st1ka

LOL, You are too funny. CLEARLY people buy what they can aford:lol:, and its not always the cheapest, I drive a Audi because I can aford to, I had all 3 system because I can aford them. People buy what they want, no matter the price...sorry, what they can aford:roll:

why are people ignoring me? it's called elasticity people, different products, different target audience, cost of opportunities anyone?

People on system wars dont realize that.

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#82 ejstrup
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[QUOTE="Rigga911"]if you think people are that dumb than youre dumbJandurin
:roll: I wish people would stop doubting me on such simple matters. This is common sense. People are idiots.

sadly, it's true :(
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#83 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

What makes no since...that people will buy what they want no matter the price?:roll:

CubanBlunt

What? :?

Look, I don't know what kind of magical fantasy world you live in but people do not just buy whatever they want no matter the price. I'm pretty sure there are a very large number of people that would love to have a million dollar mansion, a Ferrari in their driveway, a 56 inch Plasma in their bathroom (because they've got a 100 incher in the living room) and their own private jet but they don't because the price for those things is far too high.

People buy what they can afford, and often go for the cheaper alternative. In this case, it happens to be the Xbox 360 Arcade. And :lol: for trying to compare sales of the Elite to the sales of the PS3. It's not MS's fault the PS3's cheapest SKU is $400 and sales tracking companies like the NPD and Media create don't count individual SKUs either, they count them all as a whole.

LOL, You are too funny. CLEARLY people buy what they can aford

Kudos for admitting it.
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#84 Fumpa
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Beginning of the year..

Lems "Who cares about sales" "Can I play sales? NO!"

The end of the year...

Lems "LOL the 360 is pwning the PS3 in sales" "PS3 is doomed"

:roll:

I guess once the PS3 has a price drop and continues to outsell the 360 again we'll go back to not caring about sells again, right lems?

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That's how it'll work. Of course you know that the cows will suddenly start caring about sales at that point.
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#85 st1ka
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[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

LOL, You are too funny. CLEARLY people buy what they can aford:lol:, and its not always the cheapest, I drive a Audi because I can aford to, I had all 3 system because I can aford them. People buy what they want, no matter the price...sorry, what they can aford:roll:

CubanBlunt

why are people ignoring me? it's called elasticity people, different products, different target audience, cost of opportunities anyone?

People on system wars dont realize that.

the difference is The_Game21x is right, people in this case go for the cheaper alternative, the arcade model, because they don't need/are not informed on the ups of of having a hardrive in a console, in the end if you have two consoles which do pretty much the same you will go for the cheaper alternative, this is guaranteed, and let's face it the PS3 and the 360 are pretty much the same.... with the exception that the PS3 reads blu-rays (which is not game realated) and that the 360 is cheaper

Audis---- ferraris----- lexus those are status symbols which is sually the main reason why people buy them (come on just where are you going to use a 300 horse power engine in todays roads? and how often).... PS3s? not so much

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#86 CubanBlunt
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[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

What? :?

Look, I don't know what kind of magical fantasy world you live in but people do not just buy whatever they want no matter the price. I'm pretty sure there are a very large number of people that would love to have a million dollar mansion, a Ferrari in their driveway, a 56 inch Plasma in their bathroom (because they've got a 100 incher in the living room) and their own private jet but they don't because the price for those things is far too high.

People buy what they can afford, and often go for the cheaper alternative. In this case, it happens to be the Xbox 360 Arcade. And :lol: for trying to compare sales of the Elite to the sales of the PS3. It's not MS's fault the PS3's cheapest SKU is $400 and sales tracking companies like the NPD and Media create don't count individual SKUs either, they count them all as a whole.

The_Game21x

LOL, You are too funny. CLEARLY people buy what they can aford:lol:, and its not always the cheapest, I drive a Audi because I can aford to, I had all 3 system because I can aford them. People buy what they want, no matter the price...sorry, what they can aford:roll:

Dude, You do realize that you saying you buy what you can afford completely contradicts everything you said earlier right? :| If price was no object to the majority of people, then why is it that people are choosing the Xbox 360 over the PS3 or the Wii over both of them? You do realize that saying people buy what they want no matter the price assumes that price is no object, right? Do you buy whatever you want assuming price is no object? No, I'm sure you don't. Not unless you have millions of dollars in an offshore bank account that I don't know about. And if that's the case, then what the hell are you wasting time here for? I own all three consoles and a nice HDTV because I can afford to buy them, not because the price didn't matter. Some folks aren't as fortunate as I am to be able to do that and that's what I'm trying to prove. It's a simple concept that seems to have sailed right over your head. Again.

LOL, its call I have a job, I buy what I can aford, whats not to understand about that? If you cant aford it then dont buy it, its just that sample! People buy the Wii because they want it, they buy the 360 because they want it, if you are willing to spend a little more people buy the PS3 because they want it, its not that hard to understand.

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#87 st1ka
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

LOL, You are too funny. CLEARLY people buy what they can aford:lol:, and its not always the cheapest, I drive a Audi because I can aford to, I had all 3 system because I can aford them. People buy what they want, no matter the price...sorry, what they can aford:roll:

CubanBlunt

Dude, You do realize that you saying you buy what you can afford completely contradicts everything you said earlier right? :| If price was no object to the majority of people, then why is it that people are choosing the Xbox 360 over the PS3 or the Wii over both of them? You do realize that saying people buy what they want no matter the price assumes that price is no object, right? Do you buy whatever you want assuming price is no object? No, I'm sure you don't. Not unless you have millions of dollars in an offshore bank account that I don't know about. And if that's the case, then what the hell are you wasting time here for? I own all three consoles and a nice HDTV because I can afford to buy them, not because the price didn't matter. Some folks aren't as fortunate as I am to be able to do that and that's what I'm trying to prove. It's a simple concept that seems to have sailed right over your head. Again.

LOL, its call I have a job, I buy what I can aford, whats not to understand about that? If you cant aford it then dont buy it, its just that sample! People buy the Wii because they want it, they buy the 360 because they want it, if you are willing to spend a little more people buy the PS3 because they want it, its not that hard to understand.

if we're going by this logic then the PS3 has already lost the sales war, because if this is what you believe then they have turned their backs on children and teens, which if i am not mistaken are usually the first demographic that are interested in consoles

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(come on just where are you going to use a 300 horse power engine in todays roads? and how often)st1ka
There's actually a place where a bit of power comes in very very handy in my daily commute. My Echo would have failed :(
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#89 CubanBlunt
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[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

why are people ignoring me? it's called elasticity people, different products, different target audience, cost of opportunities anyone?

st1ka

People on system wars dont realize that.

the difference is The_Game21x is right, people in this case go for the cheaper alternative, the arcade model, because they don't need/are not informed on the ups of of having a hardrive in a console, in the end if you have two consoles which do pretty much the same you will go for the cheaper alternative, this is guaranteed, and let's face it the PS3 and the 360 are pretty much the same.... with the exception that the PS3 reads blu-rays (which is not game realated) and that the 360 is cheaper

Audis---- ferraris----- lexus those are status symbols which is sually the main reason why people buy them (come on just where are you going to use a 300 horse power engine in todays roads? and how often).... PS3s? not so much

People buy what they want, whats so hard about that, people buy the PS3 because they want it!

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#90 st1ka
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[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

People on system wars dont realize that.

CubanBlunt

the difference is The_Game21x is right, people in this case go for the cheaper alternative, the arcade model, because they don't need/are not informed on the ups of of having a hardrive in a console, in the end if you have two consoles which do pretty much the same you will go for the cheaper alternative, this is guaranteed, and let's face it the PS3 and the 360 are pretty much the same.... with the exception that the PS3 reads blu-rays (which is not game realated) and that the 360 is cheaper

Audis---- ferraris----- lexus those are status symbols which is sually the main reason why people buy them (come on just where are you going to use a 300 horse power engine in todays roads? and how often).... PS3s? not so much

People buy what they want, whats so hard about that, people buy the PS3 because they want it!

i'm not questioning the people, i am however questioning sony's business strategy
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And the Wii is probably outselling the 360 three to one, so that means that the Wii is outselling the PS3 six to one?
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[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"] Dude, You do realize that you saying you buy what you can afford completely contradicts everything you said earlier right? :| If price was no object to the majority of people, then why is it that people are choosing the Xbox 360 over the PS3 or the Wii over both of them? You do realize that saying people buy what they want no matter the price assumes that price is no object, right? Do you buy whatever you want assuming price is no object? No, I'm sure you don't. Not unless you have millions of dollars in an offshore bank account that I don't know about. And if that's the case, then what the hell are you wasting time here for? I own all three consoles and a nice HDTV because I can afford to buy them, not because the price didn't matter. Some folks aren't as fortunate as I am to be able to do that and that's what I'm trying to prove. It's a simple concept that seems to have sailed right over your head. Again. st1ka

LOL, its call I have a job, I buy what I can aford, whats not to understand about that? If you cant aford it then dont buy it, its just that sample! People buy the Wii because they want it, they buy the 360 because they want it, if you are willing to spend a little more people buy the PS3 because they want it, its not that hard to understand.

if we're going by this logic then the PS3 has already lost the sales war, because if this is what you believe then they have turned their backs on children and teens, which if i am not mistaken are usually the first demographic that are interested in consoles

I dont care about sales, I care what is best for me, and for me it's the PS3, I play games, I use the Blu-Ray, I use the WiFi because my computer and the modem is in another room.

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wow, that's pretty sad. what happened to the ps3's comeback, cows?
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[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"][QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

LOL, its call I have a job, I buy what I can aford, whats not to understand about that? If you cant aford it then dont buy it, its just that sample! People buy the Wii because they want it, they buy the 360 because they want it, if you are willing to spend a little more people buy the PS3 because they want it, its not that hard to understand.

if we're going by this logic then the PS3 has already lost the sales war, because if this is what you believe then they have turned their backs on children and teens, which if i am not mistaken are usually the first demographic that are interested in consoles

I dont care about sales, I care what is best for me, and for me it's the PS3, I play games, I use the Blu-Ray, I use the WiFi because my computer and the modem is in another room.

Both of which are also on PC, as such don't count in SW.
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#96 st1ka
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[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

LOL, its call I have a job, I buy what I can aford, whats not to understand about that? If you cant aford it then dont buy it, its just that sample! People buy the Wii because they want it, they buy the 360 because they want it, if you are willing to spend a little more people buy the PS3 because they want it, its not that hard to understand.

CubanBlunt

if we're going by this logic then the PS3 has already lost the sales war, because if this is what you believe then they have turned their backs on children and teens, which if i am not mistaken are usually the first demographic that are interested in consoles

I dont care about sales, I care what is best for me, and for me it's the PS3, I play games, I use the Blu-Ray, I use the WiFi because my computer and the modem is in another room.

correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't this discussion about how and why the 360 outsold the PS3 on a basis of 3 to one?

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honestly, if youre going to go with sales to say a console is better, then youre saying that the wii is the greatest console ever.. no real gamer cares about sales. only fanboys do.Sword-Demon

PS2 has sold more than the Wii..

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wow, that's pretty sad. what happened to the ps3's comeback, cows?shoeman12

Apparently, it has been postponed until next year. Errr...just wait, I guess. :?

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[QUOTE="shoeman12"]wow, that's pretty sad. what happened to the ps3's comeback, cows?Pimpshigity21

Apparently, it has been postponed until next year. Errr...just wait, I guess. :?

Actually it's the economy that happened, the PS3 outsold X360 last year and has been outselling X360 most of this year. It's only the last couple of months that X360 has picked up.
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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

wow, that's pretty sad. what happened to the ps3's comeback, cows?shoeman12

Apparently, it has been postponed until next year. Errr...just wait, I guess. :?

Actually it's the economy that happened, the PS3 outsold X360 last year and has been outselling X360 most of this year. It's only the last couple of months that X360 has picked up.

Last year the difference was the European launch. Sadly this year, the year is 12 months long, so despite outselling the 360 for some of the year, its actually the WHOLE year which counts. Ridiculous I know and utterly biased towards the 360. Damn you calendar! :P