xbox 360 slim built worse than the original?? PS3 owns this department...

the original xbox 360 had like a 54% failure rate... im on my 3rd xbox and i got the slim model... im just wondering if its built worse?? i mean, they put alot more fans on the thing so it hopefully fixes the rrod and prevent it from over heating... but no matter which side i put the xbox on theirs vents that allow any debris or dust to fall into the machine... also the disc tray is gettin old, ive already had a problem with can't read my brand new halo reach disc...

ps3 is built way better. i guess ill have to leave a towel over my machine when im not using it :S thanks microsoft

As soon as I saw "54% failure rate" i said to myself: "God, will people stop quoting Spetember 2009 issue of GI"...seriously though

IMO, the slim 360 model is a joke. It literally is 4GB of nothing. I mean, you literally cannot even play Firefight in Reach. For an extra $100 you could have had a 250GB HDD.

That being said, I'm on my 2nd 360 and I had a launch 360. Have only had one Red Ring. I've also had my original 40GB PS3 stop reading discs as well. So no hardware is perfect. Only difference is MS replaced my 360 for free. Sony wouldn't do anything because I was 2 months past the 1 year warranty.

As soon as I saw "54% failure rate" i said to myself: "God, will people stop quoting Spetember 2009 issue of GI"...seriously though

DroidPhysX

The failure rate is super super high, that seems low to me.

The new model is built very well, uses 1/3 less power and outputs 40% less heat into a better cooling system. OP sounds like hes fishing.

As soon as I saw "54% failure rate" i said to myself: "God, will people stop quoting Spetember 2009 issue of GI"...seriously though

DroidPhysX

IMO, the slim 360 model is a joke. It literally is 4GB of nothing. I mean, you literally cannot even play Firefight in Reach. For an extra $100 you could have had a 250GB HDD.

That being said, I'm on my 2nd 360 and I had a launch 360. Have only had one Red Ring. I've also had my original 40GB PS3 stop reading discs as well. So no hardware is perfect. Only difference is MS replaced my 360 for free. Sony wouldn't do anything because I was 2 months past the 1 year warranty.

Puckhog04

360 is beating the PS3 in games, exclusives

KaoSXFACTOR

360 is beating the PS3 in games, exclusives, sales, and scores..... Just get over it!

KaoSXFACTOR

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

IMO, the slim 360 model is a joke. It literally is 4GB of nothing. I mean, you literally cannot even play Firefight in Reach. For an extra $100 you could have had a 250GB HDD.

That being said, I'm on my 2nd 360 and I had a launch 360. Have only had one Red Ring. I've also had my original 40GB PS3 stop reading discs as well. So no hardware is perfect. Only difference is MS replaced my 360 for free. Sony wouldn't do anything because I was 2 months past the 1 year warranty.

jasonharris48

Well, there are two version of it. The one I'm speaking of is the cheapest version (the $199 version) which apparently is selling like crazy. That's what I'm talking about.

360 is beating the PS3 in games, exclusives, sales, and scores..... Just get over it!

KaoSXFACTOR

umm, no. Games and Exclusives are very your opinon, lately PS3 has been putting out arguably better Exclusives. and 360 has been having less Exclusive Exclusives lately. What do you mean by games? Because most games these days are on both consoles. Scores? what scores? GS Scores? IGN Scores? Metacritic? and sales, yes, but really its mainly in the USA and overal. So maybe you have one of your points right.

So... maybe YOU should get over it? Also, why am I feeding a troll?

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

360 is beating the PS3 in games, exclusives, sales, and scores..... Just get over it!

Animal-Mother

At least these :lol: don't help your argument, and the 360 still has more games, exclusives, sales, and scores.

The new 360 slim is built fine and this is coming from someone with 2 ps3's also. It is a lot better than the previous models including the Jasper and it looks really nice also.

it is not 360 it is halo reach ,,

the disc has bugs in several c opies ,,

so ya it will mess your 360 up

i beleive that is the real problem ms is just tryin to hide the truth

so you go out and spend more money on another xbox

and wii is kickin 360 with sales and games lol ,

and ps3 is catching up last ichecked vg charts-they were 3 m behind

Microsoft has never released an official number on the failure rate and a small survey is hardly factual evidence.

Have you ever noticed how people usually use 3 or 7 for making up numbers of consoles they've been through. themyth01

Microsoft has never released an official number on the failure rate and a small survey is hardly factual evidence.

Dark_Knight6

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

360 is beating the PS3 in games, exclusives, sales, and scores..... Just get over it!

KaoSXFACTOR

At least these :lol: don't help your argument, and the 360 still has more games, exclusives, sales, and scores.

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

Microsoft has never released an official number on the failure rate and a small survey is hardly factual evidence.

04dcarraher

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

Microsoft has never released an official number on the failure rate and a small survey is hardly factual evidence.

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

Microsoft has never released an official number on the failure rate and a small survey is hardly factual evidence.

04dcarraher

The personal experience of one person is irrelevant. Microsoft has not released an official number and until they do, all statistics released otherwise (especially if they are obtained through poor means, like a poll) are moot.

[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Well I know 4 people that have been through 3 xbox's, 3 people with 2, and one with 4 of them. Im still on my first because I know how to fix the RROD that MS hasnt fixed.

04dcarraher

That's pretty cool.

I genuinely believe every single 360 made in the first two years of production will fail within the somewhat near future. Its a broken design that cannot sustain itself with directly modifying the console like you did. I still cant believe M$ released that.

I think the updated model at 2 years fixes it for well ventillated areas and the new one fixes it for good (minus random hardware failures).

360 is beating the PS3 in games, exclusives, sales, and scores..... Just get over it!

KaoSXFACTOR

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]

That's pretty cool.

I genuinely believe every single 360 made in the first two years of production will fail within the somewhat near future. Its a broken design that cannot sustain itself with directly modifying the console like you did. I still cant believe M$ released that.

I think the updated model at 2 years fixes it for well ventillated areas and the new one fixes it for good (minus random hardware failures).

Do you have a how to make guide or something? :P... I have two 360's and I would like too fix the one that's been giving me trouble.lbjkurono23

Hardest part to find power supply for the fans http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812706011&cm_re=4_pin_molex_power-_-12-706-011-_-Product

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

360 is beating the PS3 in games, exclusives, sales, and scores..... Just get over it!

KaoSXFACTOR

At least these :lol: don't help your argument, and the 360 still has more games, exclusives, sales, and scores.

And it has more scores or better scores? Does it really?

idk I have gotten differnt red rings for almost all my 360s(4 now) but they always work fine...my first one had 1 red light my second never had none, my third had 3 and my 4th had 4 and basically I just unplugged them and plugged them back in and they worked fine and it never happend again for any of them. Isn't the 3 rings always supposed to mean death? IDK they are always fine and I leave it and all my other systems on 24/7.

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

Microsoft has never released an official number on the failure rate and a small survey is hardly factual evidence.

04dcarraher

You don't represent 40 million people, thats the reason why it's biased.

My Xbox 360 works fine, so my personal experience says otherwise, see what I did there?

[QUOTE="Cali3350"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] thanks, I made a few for friends and that were getting getting tired of their 360's RRoD'ing, When my brother's 360 died the 3rd time I talked to the UPS guy, and he told me they get 20-30 xbox's a week at that store. And I dont live in a hot area, so I believe the 30% RROD rate and the other 20% of other hardware failure rates.04dcarraher

I genuinely believe every single 360 made in the first two years of production will fail within the somewhat near future. Its a broken design that cannot sustain itself with directly modifying the console like you did. I still cant believe M$ released that.

I think the updated model at 2 years fixes it for well ventillated areas and the new one fixes it for good (minus random hardware failures).

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="Cali3350"]

I genuinely believe every single 360 made in the first two years of production will fail within the somewhat near future. Its a broken design that cannot sustain itself with directly modifying the console like you did. I still cant believe M$ released that.

I think the updated model at 2 years fixes it for well ventillated areas and the new one fixes it for good (minus random hardware failures).

monkeysmoke

Um... no the if the jasper from MS fixed the RROD then why did two of my freind's jasper models of the 360, RROD'ed at 6 and 9 months later ? Dont believe the propaganda, the jaspers only lower the power load and heat produced by only 18% or so. The cooling in all the 360's arent enough even with all the die shrinks and liittle cooling upgrades (air duct and heatpipe).

I think of all the wrong statements, putting a towel on it would be the most counter-intuitive thing you could do.

Vent it. Its no different than any device, it needs air. Its not a difficult concept, everyone gets a few dvd errors, so do my PS3 and Wii.

54%..........

2005 called, it wants its statistic back.

Everyone knows the Wii and PS3 were built much better than all 360s.

high quality stuff tends to have more risks

xbox is still better that is why when ppl get RROD they still continue to buy the xbox 360