Because not every competiton have to envolve the PC.:roll:Why does the PC have to stay out of it?
Silverbond
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^THISWinning at what?
If at sales numbers/profit, Xbox.
If at review-scores from exclusive titles, PS3.
If by common sense and great games, BOTH GENIUS.
/thread meaningless.
aGOODdude
TC, you just can't ask "who's winning" without stating some kind of categories because the 360 wins in some, and the ps3 win in others.
Because not every competiton have to envolve the PC.:roll: True if the discussion was to involve the PC there wouldn't be any need for a discussion ...[QUOTE="Silverbond"]
Why does the PC have to stay out of it?
ermacness
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]
Why does the PC have to stay out of it?
AmazonTreeBoa
Because the TC framed the discussion as such, and trying to derail a legitmate discussion could be considered disruptive posting (moddable)?
TC does NOT make the rules here in SW, so no it is not moddable. PC is allowed in every SW thread regardless of what the TC wants.well you can go make your own thread that includes the PC if it bothers you so much :)
[QUOTE="ermacness"]Because not every competiton have to envolve the PC.:roll: True if the discussion was to involve the PC there wouldn't be any need for a discussion ...The PC wins alot of "on paper" comparisons, but in reality, console gaming is thriving WAY more than PC gaming, as far as community and players goes.[QUOTE="Silverbond"]
Why does the PC have to stay out of it?
whitey_rolls
TC does NOT make the rules here in SW, so no it is not moddable. PC is allowed in every SW thread regardless of what the TC wants.[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]
[QUOTE="santoron"]
Because the TC framed the discussion as such, and trying to derail a legitmate discussion could be considered disruptive posting (moddable)?
Zorgax
well you can go make your own thread that includes the PC if it bothers you so much :)
It doesn't bother me at all. Just stating the facts/rules. If that bothers you too much, you can always go find some different forums with different rules.[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]TC does NOT make the rules here in SW, so no it is not moddable. PC is allowed in every SW thread regardless of what the TC wants. PC has no place in this thread, it is irrelevant to the discussion. The PC does not have to be included in every single threadI never said it "had" to be included in every thread. I said it is "allowed" in every SW thread.[QUOTE="santoron"]
Because the TC framed the discussion as such, and trying to derail a legitmate discussion could be considered disruptive posting (moddable)?
ferret-gamer
2005-2007 = Xbox 360 wins
2008-2012 = PS3 wins.
The 360 was a better gaming system until MGS4 came out, and then the PS3 exclusives came rolling in while 360 got fewer and fewer each year. On top of that PS3 got a lot of new updates etc..
As a multi media machine the PS3 has ALWAYS been superior. Right out of the box from day one. And that's because of the blu-ray player. People who invest $10K or even $100K in a home cinema will almost 100% of the time have a PS3 in there as well. Check high end AV enthusiast forums, etc.
That + MGS4 destroys the entire 360 library alone (lemme know when you get a 10 guys)
Not going to mention RROD and the horrible failure rates.
In terms of what company is making the most money, Microsoft by far. In terms of exclusive content and content directed more towards core gaming, the Playstation 3. As for sales they are close enough to not really make that much of a difference.
In terms of sales, what company is making the most money and having the most success I'd say the 360 is winning, but as a gamer I feel the PS3 is.
yet the 360 still had more exclusives until the start of 2011 :?2005-2007 = Xbox 360 wins
2008-2012 = PS3 wins.
The 360 was a better gaming system until MGS4 came out, and then the PS3 exclusives came rolling in while 360 got fewer and fewer each year. On top of that PS3 got a lot of new updates etc..
As a multi media machine the PS3 has ALWAYS been superior. Right out of the box from day one. And that's because of the blu-ray player. People who invest $10K or even $100K in a home cinema will almost 100% of the time have a PS3 in there as well. Check high end AV enthusiast forums, etc.That + MGS4 destroys the entire 360 library alone (lemme know when you get a 10 guys)
Not going to mention RROD and the horrible failure rates.
Mozelleple112
if Forza 4 gets a 10 here what makes me think you'll suddenly change your tune, seeing as though it would 'destroy the entire PS3 library alone' by your definition.
yet the 360 still had more exclusives until the start of 2011 :?[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]
2005-2007 = Xbox 360 wins
2008-2012 = PS3 wins.
The 360 was a better gaming system until MGS4 came out, and then the PS3 exclusives came rolling in while 360 got fewer and fewer each year. On top of that PS3 got a lot of new updates etc..
As a multi media machine the PS3 has ALWAYS been superior. Right out of the box from day one. And that's because of the blu-ray player. People who invest $10K or even $100K in a home cinema will almost 100% of the time have a PS3 in there as well. Check high end AV enthusiast forums, etc.That + MGS4 destroys the entire 360 library alone (lemme know when you get a 10 guys)
Not going to mention RROD and the horrible failure rates.
marklarmer
if Forza 4 gets a 10 here what makes me think you'll suddenly change your tune, seeing as though it would 'destroy the entire PS3 library alone' by your definition.
You missed the part where he said more was coming out each yearThe 360 doesn't even need exclusives to do well and beat the PS3.
All third party games sell more on the 360.
yet the 360 still had more exclusives until the start of 2011 :?[QUOTE="marklarmer"]
[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]
2005-2007 = Xbox 360 wins
2008-2012 = PS3 wins.
The 360 was a better gaming system until MGS4 came out, and then the PS3 exclusives came rolling in while 360 got fewer and fewer each year. On top of that PS3 got a lot of new updates etc..
As a multi media machine the PS3 has ALWAYS been superior. Right out of the box from day one. And that's because of the blu-ray player. People who invest $10K or even $100K in a home cinema will almost 100% of the time have a PS3 in there as well. Check high end AV enthusiast forums, etc.That + MGS4 destroys the entire 360 library alone (lemme know when you get a 10 guys)
Not going to mention RROD and the horrible failure rates.
1stPlaceWinner
if Forza 4 gets a 10 here what makes me think you'll suddenly change your tune, seeing as though it would 'destroy the entire PS3 library alone' by your definition.
You missed the part where he said more was coming out each yearapparently you missed the part (i highlighted) where he claimed as soon as MGS4 came out the 360 was no longer a better gaming system :|You missed the part where he said more was coming out each yearapparently you missed the part (i highlighted) where he claimed as soon as MGS4 came out the 360 was no longer a better gaming system :|cuz it had more exclusives coming out[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]
[QUOTE="marklarmer"]yet the 360 still had more exclusives until the start of 2011 :?
if Forza 4 gets a 10 here what makes me think you'll suddenly change your tune, seeing as though it would 'destroy the entire PS3 library alone' by your definition.
marklarmer
[QUOTE="marklarmer"]apparently you missed the part (i highlighted) where he claimed as soon as MGS4 came out the 360 was no longer a better gaming system :|cuz it had more exclusives coming out[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"] You missed the part where he said more was coming out each year
1stPlaceWinner
so it was somehow still the better system despite having fewer exclusives for years to follow?
In a straight up battle between 360 and PS3, 360 easily wins. More games, more sales, better services.i5750at4GhzBasically this
cuz it had more exclusives coming out[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"][QUOTE="marklarmer"]apparently you missed the part (i highlighted) where he claimed as soon as MGS4 came out the 360 was no longer a better gaming system :|
CaseyWegner
so it was somehow still the better system despite having fewer exclusives for years to follow?
Yes and you can see how that has been proven by the overall exclusive counts and the games this year.[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]cuz it had more exclusives coming outHeil68
so it was somehow still the better system despite having fewer exclusives for years to follow?
Yes and you can see how that has been proven by the overall exclusive counts and the games this year.no. not now. then. how?
Yes and you can see how that has been proven by the overall exclusive counts and the games this year.[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
so it was somehow still the better system despite having fewer exclusives for years to follow?
CaseyWegner
no. not now. then. how?
The writing was on the wall..Once the PS3 secured its perfect 10, it was only a matter of time and that has been the case.[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Heil68"] Yes and you can see how that has been proven by the overall exclusive counts and the games this year. Heil68
no. not now. then. how?
The writing was on the wall..Once the PS3 secured its perfect 10, it was only a matter of time and that has been the case.how does scoring one 10 make it only a matter of time? how is a system with fewer better than one with more? you can't play potential.
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]
Why does the PC have to stay out of it?
AmazonTreeBoa
Because the TC framed the discussion as such, and trying to derail a legitmate discussion could be considered disruptive posting (moddable)?
TC does NOT make the rules here in SW, so no it is not moddable. PC is allowed in every SW thread regardless of what the TC wants.The concept of a "micro-discussion" - in other words a thread comparing selected systems exclusively - has been thoroughly discussed, and repeatedly upheld by GS staff. Contrary to your opinion, we don't have to include every current system in every thread, regardless of what you want...
I'll go with PS3. I like Blu ray :D. I use both consoles more for their media features than anything, so Blu ray really tips it for me.
TC does NOT make the rules here in SW, so no it is not moddable. PC is allowed in every SW thread regardless of what the TC wants.[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]
[QUOTE="santoron"]
Because the TC framed the discussion as such, and trying to derail a legitmate discussion could be considered disruptive posting (moddable)?
santoron
The concept of a "micro-discussion" - in other words a thread comparing selected systems exclusively - has been thoroughly discussed, and repeatedly upheld by GS staff. Contrary to your opinion, we don't have to include every current system in every thread, regardless of what you want...
I never said it had to be included. I said the TC can't exclude it. The staff of GS stated this many times in the past. that's just something you are going to have to learn to except and press on.[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"]2005-2008=360 wins 2008-present=PS3 wins thats how i see itKashiwaba
Exactly what I was going to say but more like 2009-Present PS3 wins since PS3 games started rolling at late 2008.
More like summer 2008 with a big bang, MGS4.Is this about sales? Then the Wii wins.Sony got their ass kicked this gen, they lost way too much market share. MS won this battle; blind fanboys will say otherwise.
xsatyr86
i own a ps3 and i LOL at the fact how we get everything late and we suck so bad we get shut down for like a monthBlaster_x2You also get UC 1-3, LBP 1-2, MLB: TSs (I could go on, but won't), and free online for all but that one hiccup.
And have often been better.The 360 doesn't even need exclusives to do well and beat the PS3.
All third party games sell more on the 360.
GOGOGOGURT
It depends on what you like to play.
Xbox 360 - Hardcore (Most exclusives feature guns, has mostly M-rated games)
PS3 - Medium (Many M-rated gams, but E/T-rated exclusives)
Wii - Casual (Mostly E rated games)
NiKva
Since when did being hardcore mean playing M rated games?
[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]In a straight up battle between 360 and PS3, 360 easily wins. More games, more sales, better services.tormentosMore games if you are willing to count 2005 and 2006 games,new games the PS3 and xbox 360 get basically the same games,with the only difference of the PS3 getting more exclusives than the 360,and better services is debatable,better service been party chat,which cost $60 dollars a year,by default the PS3 wins online the xbox 360 doesn't have and online access out of the box period,the PS3 does if you are not willing to double your knees to MS fees like 40 million 360 owners do by not paying for XBL,that put you on a total disadvantage against PS3 users period. Online play out of the box >>> Fee to play online period. Having to pay for a service doesn't in anyway degrade said service. Never have and never will understand that argument.
I personally think no one is but if you own it, you defend it.
Heroldp813
PS3. Microsoft has kicked themselves with the release of Kinect. It is a double edged sword, really. Sure the thing is selling, but it will hurt them going into next gen. I'd argue that the ps3 is actually in more homes when you take the RROD fiasco into account. Sony is in a really good place at the moment. The Vita is recieving very positive press which will only help the ps3, as long as the next Playstation home console. Sony has been getting respect from gamers with their constant stream of high quality exclusive games.
[QUOTE="NiKva"]
It depends on what you like to play.
Xbox 360 - Hardcore (Most exclusives feature guns, has mostly M-rated games)
PS3 - Medium (Many M-rated gams, but E/T-rated exclusives)
Wii - Casual (Mostly E rated games)
hypoty
Since when did being hardcore mean playing M rated games?
I guess when they started rating the vast majority of core games M.They should rename the thread "Xbox 360 Vs. PS3... Honestly who is winning? BTW if you like PC you don't have the right to free speach and should stfu!"
Sold my 360 for a PS3. I guess you could say I needed something new. I've come to the conclusion that the PS3 is the better console. It does everything the xbox 360 can, but a bit more. 360 has some good exclusives. The only one I miss is Gears of War. Other then that, PS3 exclusives are better then the 360. The only reason there are more sales for the 360 is because kids demand it more. Their friends have it. Their friends' friends have it. Etc.
Xbox 360 = 05-08
PS3 = 08 - Present
The 360 doesn't even need exclusives to do well and beat the PS3.
All third party games sell more on the 360.
GOGOGOGURT
IMO the thread ended right here even though I wouldn't say ALL but rather "MOST"
I mean this is just for this month here but it pretty much reflects what has been going on this gen with respect to 3rd party sales. With the exception of Mortal Kombat the bolded parts show that these third party games sold more on the 360 compared to the ps3 which includes the so-called "superior" ps3 version of L.A. Noire. Results taken from this thread.
Software(New physical retail only, across all platforms including PC)
01. L.A. Noire (360, PS3) Take 2 Interactive -419,300
02. Duke Nukem Forever (360, PS3, PC) Take 2 Interactive -376,300
03. Infamous 2 (PS3) Sony-369,200
04. Lego Pirates of the Caribbean: The Video Game (Wii, 360, NDS, PS3, 3DS, PSP, PC) Disney Interactive Studios
05. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D (3DS) Nintendo -280,000
06. Call of Duty: Black Ops (360, PS3, Wii, NDS, PC) Activision Blizzard
07. NBA 2K11 (360, PS3, Wii, PS2, PSP, PC) Take 2 Interactive
08. Mortal Kombat 2011 (PS3, 360) Warner Bros. Interactive
09. Cars 2 (NDS, Wii, 360, PS3, PC) Disney Interactive Studios
10. Just Dance 2 (Wii) Ubisoft
...again as you mentioned it's doing this without even taking into consideration the 360 exclusives both for the casual gamer and core gamer. Whether it's a retail game, Xbox Live Arcade game, or Kinect game doesn't matter because a game... well... is a game lol.
I mean lets be real here for a minute. When you look at the 360 catalogue of games there is something for everyone and the bottom line is the 360 is doing a better job right now than the ps3 as far as raising the eyebrows of that soccer mom/casual gamer that walks in the 360 section at stores.
...by the way. You know what MS's biggest exclusive is? Xbox Live. Which in itself adds to the gaming experience when someone turns on his or her 360. Yeah I know some ps3 owners will say that cross game voice chat is no biggie but it's just little things like this that adds to the fun and party features on Xbox Live.
[QUOTE="NanosuitLover"]So now you can't have a 360 vs PS3 debate without hermits getting butt hurt?They should rename the thread "Xbox 360 Vs. PS3... Honestly who is winning? BTW if you like PC you don't have the right to free speach and should stfu!"
i5750at4Ghz
So now you can't have a system war thread without consolites shunning you for liking PC?
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