Would it not have had a failure rate higher then all the consoles or scratching the disk if moved a bit if it waited another year to be released? It's an amazing system though!
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yeah if it wasnt for its unreliable harwdare they could've easily be the best console this gen overall.. but at least they made an effort to recover from it with warranties and the jasper release.
I agree I feel it was rushed and it make you wonder what they could have produce had they not rushed it. I have the 360 Elite and it a great machine. I Bet the next gen will be mind blowing.
I agree but then again MS said it thinks the 360 has like an 8 year life span. With Natal coming out I think the next system is not coming out any time soon... -sigh-I agree I feel it was rushed and it make you wonder what they could have produce had they not rushed it. I have the 360 Elite and it a great machine. I Bet the next gen will be mind blowing.
kramer_inc
Vista is what happens with no competition, not the same as gaming software, as sony provides ample competition for themYou need to give MS time to get this whole "hardware" thing down, lord knows they have the whole "software" thing down.
*Waves at: Windows Vista*
poeton22
It's a little obvious :roll:
Let's hope MS learned from this for the next gen. They got the software down pretty good though.
[QUOTE="poeton22"]Vista is what happens with no competition, not the same as gaming software, as sony provides ample competition for them win7 is amazing.You need to give MS time to get this whole "hardware" thing down, lord knows they have the whole "software" thing down.
*Waves at: Windows Vista*
navyguy21
Sighhhhhhh.............. 54%:roll: It just that............why Jake?......Why?....So how was ahem...you know....that game?With a 54% failure rate; I'd say so.
jakehouston88
Obviously, the failure rate is crazy, if only ms didn'y have RRoD, they would have this gen for me. :?
wouldnt say desperation lol, but a smart (and much needed) business move in order to gain dev support, which they didnt have much of last gen because of the mammoth known as PS2Yes it was. Out of desperation, really.
That's why I waited 3 years to buy one....September 2008.
KingsofQueens
Sighhhhhhh.............. 54%:roll: It just that............why Jake?......Why?....So how was ahem...you know....that game? lol, ignore him, he's the biggest fanboy on here, even won a system wars award for it :P[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]
With a 54% failure rate; I'd say so.
vaderhater
It was rushed because playstation brand loyalty, so if it lauched at the same time, even being cheaper, PS would still win. so MS wanted to get out early. Was it worth it?? Judging by current marketshare..........id say yes, they took a 1bn hit, but its well worth it because the are very profitable this gen. Sucks for consumers though, but every company makes business decisions, and thats what it was, they did it to have a chancenavyguy21That is one funny commercial. Lol i remember that from the funniest commercials on TBS. But yea MS rushed it. But we will see what they put out next gen since they have a loyal fan base now.
[QUOTE="poeton22"]Vista is what happens with no competition, not the same as gaming software, as sony provides ample competition for themYou need to give MS time to get this whole "hardware" thing down, lord knows they have the whole "software" thing down.
*Waves at: Windows Vista*
navyguy21
You are correct, Vista is what happens with no competition, but that no competition in the OS Market seems to make MS think they have no competition in any market
Before you say a thing, Sony made that mistake but they are rebounding from that similar attitude.
[QUOTE="vaderhater"]Sighhhhhhh.............. 54%:roll: It just that............why Jake?......Why?....So how was ahem...you know....that game? lol, ignore him, he's the biggest fanboy on here, even won a system wars award for it :P[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]
With a 54% failure rate; I'd say so.
navyguy21
What can I say, Facts are facts. ;)
lol, ignore him, he's the biggest fanboy on here, even won a system wars award for it :P[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="vaderhater"]Sighhhhhhh.............. 54%:roll: It just that............why Jake?......Why?....So how was ahem...you know....that game?
jakehouston88
What can I say, Facts are facts. ;)
lol, ok, whatever you tell yourself dude lol. Does it actually make you feel better?? Maybe i can get the kids that i mentor to become fanboys to feel better about themselves :Plol, ignore him, he's the biggest fanboy on here, even won a system wars award for it :P[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="vaderhater"]Sighhhhhhh.............. 54%:roll: It just that............why Jake?......Why?....So how was ahem...you know....that game?
jakehouston88
What can I say, Facts are facts. ;)
Did you really win an award? Congrats i guess[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]
[QUOTE="navyguy21"] lol, ignore him, he's the biggest fanboy on here, even won a system wars award for it :Pvaderhater
What can I say, Facts are facts. ;)
Did you really win an award? Congrats i guessWhy thank you, my first year on SW has been fun. And I'm here to stay. ;)....:lol:
Rumor says so: MS knew about RRoD but they just rushed the console to have the upper hand.
Just a rumour?? Maybe, but anything is possible.
Did you really win an award? Congrats i guess[QUOTE="vaderhater"]
[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]
What can I say, Facts are facts. ;)
jakehouston88
Why thank you, my first year on SW has been fun. And I'm here to stay. ;)....:lol:
i voted for you LOL.. but coregamer is closed second.
[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]
[QUOTE="vaderhater"]Did you really win an award? Congrats i guess
___gamemaster__
Why thank you, my first year on SW has been fun. And I'm here to stay. ;)....:lol:
i voted for you LOL.. but coregamer is closed second.
Thanks lolz...andI haven't seen him post for awhile, I hope he isn't banned.
[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]
[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]
Why thank you, my first year on SW has been fun. And I'm here to stay. ;)....:lol:
jakehouston88
i voted for you LOL.. but coregamer is closed second.
Thanks lolz...andI haven't seen him post for awhile, I hope he isn't banned.
Sectoid was nice too, and he had anger management problems :PI dont believe it was, Oh if they had waited a year they likely wouldn't have nearly the failure rate * i doubt it ever got past 30% any ways* but in teh end it all came down to them using a cheap fabrication company to produce the 360 in design and manufacture and not going with a more expensive one.
Seems like they just didn't test it thoroughly. Actually they probably knew about the problems but decided it wasn't worth fixing. (As in flow graphs and pie charts said it wasn't financially worth fixing...)
I hope next gen all consoles come with a three year standard warranty from the start. It just makes sense.
I agree. Considering most of them are quite expensive (mainly at launch), it'll be a good protection for early adopters.I hope next gen all consoles come with a three year standard warranty from the start. It just makes sense.
vaderhater
I remember mentioning on another forum the concern about 360 being released early, possibly resulting in hardware issues due to the lack of testing. The people on the forum were viciously defensive and bashed me for suggesting a year early could result in problems.
Whose laughing now :P pretty much no one will question that 360 needed additional quality testing today.
yes it was rushed but even with all the problems is still the best system this gen and the best system ive ever owned
I don't think it was rushed to market, however it's possible that during Product Testing the design flaws weren't caught by the testers, however I also think people have blown the 360s failure rate out of preportion, I can't help but wonder how many RRODs were actually nothing more serious then not having the console plugged in correctly (All 4 Lights being Red, as opposed to the 3 lights that signal General Hardware Failure)
Yeap... But to be honest this gen isnt to rosy with the consoles...
Xbox 360 got rushed
PS3 had **** for games for a year and cost its weight in pure gold
Wii got off to a good start but is starting to crash and burn with the shovelware and ****ty hardware...
Luckily all but the Wii have got rid of their problems mostly...
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