Xbox 720 - Durango to have two 8970 ATI GPUs and more ram than PS4 (rumor)

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#101 R3FURBISHED
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Whatever void Kinect will occupy next generation will influence what the next Xbox is made of.

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#102 FireEmblem_Man
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If that's true, then another Game Industry crash will happen

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#103 ronvalencia
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@loosingENDS

Current GCNv1 designs already has AMD64 ISA for it's memory operations. PS; AMD64 = X86-64.

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#104 NEWMAHAY
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lol! does anyone even remotely believe this?
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#105 Badosh
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lol! does anyone even remotely believe this?NEWMAHAY
I do. I have faith. Faith in Godbox.
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#106 Kaze_no_Mirai
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Now i know what system i will get next gen :)loosingENDS
:lol: No ones gonna believe that
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#107 madsnakehhh
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How have you not been banned yet?

Fizzman

Because, sadly, annoying and stupid is not an offense here in GS.

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#108 mitu123
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[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

What series do you think is the best then?

chilly-chill

Mass Effect, Metal Gear or Spyro

Spyro hasn't been amazing since the PS1 days.:P

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#109 Magescrew
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

How have you not been banned yet?

madsnakehhh

Because, sadly, annoying and stupid is not an offense here in GS.

That's because that definition fits 75% of the people here. Face it, you are all fanboys like Loosingends, the only difference is the degree to which you reveal your biases.

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#110 jimmyrussle117
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Why the hell would they use two graphics cards? and also a machine of that caliber would be insanely expensive to make/ buy
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#111 wis3boi
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a console with two apus and an 8970? Yeah, and I fart rainbows and poop cupcakes

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#112 mitu123
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Why the hell would they use two graphics cards? and also a machine of that caliber would be insanely expensive to make/ buy jimmyrussle117
To do 1600p of course!

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#113 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="jimmyrussle117"]Why the hell would they use two graphics cards? and also a machine of that caliber would be insanely expensive to make/ buy mitu123

To do 1600p of course!

They call it the 720 because that's the resolution they won't be able to pass
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#114 loosingENDS
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lol! does anyone even remotely believe this?NEWMAHAY

Using the 8000 series as base was always expected really and the only logical thing

Some other stuff like the dual GPU and 120MB EDRAM are a bit too much though, but you never know

360 has been a vast success for them and i am sure they will want 720 to last even longer, so they may go all out

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BTW the 120MB EDRAM makes perfect sense if they want a system to last and cover the upcoming 4K resolution HDTVs

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#115 ChubbyGuy40
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They call it the 720 because that's the resolution they won't be able to passwis3boi

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#116 JC_Spot
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And it will also cost $1000? Those are ridiculous specs.
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#117 DJ_Headshot
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

If they want to last 8 years, they may as well have room for the upcoming 4K standard that is way above 1080p

120MB would be just right for that

It is 16MB for 720p full buffer, and 4K is 4 times 1080p, so it is 16x2x4 = 128MB for 4K

[QUOTE="Aidenfury19"]

The HDx970s GPUs are the high-end parts which means they're expensive, power-hungry, and huge. That alone tells me the whole thing is fake, the ridiculous claims of dual CPUs (because AMD is NOT coming out with a 16 core CPU for anything other than servers) and the poster's clear lack of a clue about what is being described just drives the nails in further.

Now I understand you enjoy being a fanboy, but can you at least do some quality control on the BS rumors you post? It helps if they're at least a little bit believable.

TyberZannxxxx

The chips themselves are tiny

Have you never seen a computer chip before ?

Developing a 4k console game is way too expensive for anyone. 1080p is the standard for next-gen. Since all 3 consoles will pretty much be on par with each other, you are better off getting a Wii U.

I doubt 1080p will be standard next gen.
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#118 mitu123
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^That would suck, another gen where 1080p can't be the standard on consoles.

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#119 wis3boi
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^That would suck, another gen where 1080p can't be the standard on consoles.

mitu123
if they want a good framerate, res will be the first thing to go
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#120 loosingENDS
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^That would suck, another gen where 1080p can't be the standard on consoles.

mitu123

Xbox 720 seems to be going for 4K resolution, that is way above 1080p

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#121 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

^That would suck, another gen where 1080p can't be the standard on consoles.

loosingENDS

Xbox 720 seems to be going for 4K resolution, that is way above 1080p

A res that hardly anyone can play on?

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#122 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

^That would suck, another gen where 1080p can't be the standard on consoles.

wis3boi

if they want a good framerate, res will be the first thing to go

They can get good FPS and 1080p, but reduce the graphics!>.>

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#123 soulitane
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

^That would suck, another gen where 1080p can't be the standard on consoles.

mitu123

Xbox 720 seems to be going for 4K resolution, that is way above 1080p

A res that hardly anyone can play on?

Maybe it will be like this gen, they don't really support that res for games but the console can still support it :P
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#124 GunSmith1_basic
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I'm not sure how game production works. Will this mean much higher dev costs?
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#125 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

^That would suck, another gen where 1080p can't be the standard on consoles.

mitu123

Xbox 720 seems to be going for 4K resolution, that is way above 1080p

A res that hardly anyone can play on?

Will be the new standard soon

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#126 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Xbox 720 seems to be going for 4K resolution, that is way above 1080p

loosingENDS

A res that hardly anyone can play on?

Will be the new standard soon

But how many people can afford it?O_o

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#127 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] A res that hardly anyone can play on?

mitu123

Will be the new standard soon

But how many people can afford it?O_o

After 3-4 years will be affordable by everyone, these consoles are made to last 8+ years, even xbox 360 lasted 8 years

Xbox 720 seems to be 50-100x more powerfull than WiiU by those specs

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#128 soulitane
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Will be the new standard soon

loosingENDS

But how many people can afford it?O_o

After 3-4 years will be affordable by everyone, these consoles are made to last 8+ years, even xbox 360 lasted 8 years

Xbox 720 seems to be 50-100x more powerfull than WiiU by those specs

and the 360's games still don't support the standard resolution naturally.
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#129 ChubbyGuy40
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After 3-4 years will be affordable by everyone, these consoles are made to last 8+ years, even xbox 360 lasted 8 years

loosingENDS

32" 720p TVs are still $300. 4k TVs will be lucky to be on the market by then. Stop being stupid.

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#130 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

After 3-4 years will be affordable by everyone, these consoles are made to last 8+ years, even xbox 360 lasted 8 years

ChubbyGuy40

32" 720p TVs are still $300. 4k TVs will be lucky to be on the market by then. Stop being stupid.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Sceptre-32-Class-LCD-720p-60Hz-HDTV-X322BV-HD/15739136?srccode=cii_9324560&cpncode=33-56258776-2&adid=1500000000000036337730&veh=cse

32'', 720p

189$

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Sceptre-32-Class-LCD-1080p-60Hz-HDTV-X325BV-FHD/19793560?srccode=cii_9324560&cpncode=33-56258990-2&adid=1500000000000036337730&veh=cse

32'' 1080p

215$

You were saying ?

These prices are not affordable BTW ???? Where do you live exactly ? This is what i pay for a meal in a good restaurant

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#131 ChubbyGuy40
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32'' 1080p

215$

You were saying ?

loosingENDS

Lowest end and more than likely rebranded overstock. It's also Scepter, so it's gonna break in a year anyway, just like Xboxs now that I think of it.

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#132 hiryu3
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picture for my thoughts

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#133 ArchoNils2
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picture for my thoughts

129053808101863194.jpg

hiryu3

Same here. Also those are rumors ffrom some random forum. So if I create a thread saying the PS4 will have 48970 ATI GPUs, it'ss alsso true? Besides that, it's another LE thread, you guy really need to realise that MS is after the causuals, it's pretty much confirmed that they bundle the system with Kinect 2.0

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#134 loosingENDS
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Xbox 720 seems to be vastly more powerfull than WiiU and PS4, it is so funny that MS has already won next gen as IGN stated

I suppose those are the exact specs that leaked from Durango conference

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#135 ronvalencia
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http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=670140

June E3 2012

Quote:What I have put here is 99% the real cpu/eapu specs.. This is Microsoft goal. It is also what is available in the dev kits that are at E3.. If Microsoft show the Durango/720/8/loop this is what is behind these specs.. The final 2 gpu design final spec is not 100% known out of Microsoft rnd there target is HD8970 tech. The cpu pic is the real durango cpu/eapu but now that specs are leaking out over the next 4 days. It shows you the future.Quote:Durango cpu specs
SOI -28nm 22nm by 2014
3.8ghz - 4.2ghz Turbo-core mode
4 SMT every core
1024 KiB L2 per core
8 VMX128 cores
120MiB EDRAM
There is 2 cores in every core. they are not stacked cores.
Durango cpu is an ultra enhanced apu,
DX11.1- 12.1 Upgradeable core logic
"BASIC" Durango cpu can support 12- 32/64 bit 1080p Render Targets "back buffer" 10/64 bits color and aa on all back buffers. 2k resolution and beyond. Cpu/apu and gpu/s can access the EDRAM on the fly. A massive amount of system Ram is also available "more then orbis" (note: suddenly PS4 could have less ram then Durango)

Summary : 8 Core (2 core per Core ?) = total 16 Core x 4 Thread
picture of Sample chip

View Image" for full version" title=""Right Click > View Image" for full version" />


So basically it fit with Durango is a Beast, a Monster etc
many more info on this insider link
funny thing basically durango is both powerpc and x86 , with
modified dual 8970 tech GPU with exotic feature and firmware upgradeable

.

Now i know what system i will get next gen :)

loosingENDS

"Upgradeable core logic" is LOL, I don't unlikely AMD will be mass producing multi-billion transistors GPU with FPGA type tech.

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#136 drakekratos
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sounds fake to me
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#137 stereointegrity
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Xbox 720 seems to be vastly more powerfull than WiiU and PS4, it is so funny that MS has already won next gen as IGN stated

I suppose those are the exact specs that leaked from Durango conference

loosingENDS
but do u have any proof?
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#138 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="Aidenfury19"]

Even you should know better than to try and post this crap as anything other than the feverish dreams of a fanboy's mind.

loosingENDS

Seems accurate and what is expected, the 8970 is the GPU that will be around the 720 release time frame

THe next xbox is all about kinect, it will be equal to or slightly more powerful then the 360.

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#139 JC_Spot
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The next xbox is all about kinect, it will be equal to or slightly more powerful then the 360.tenaka2
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#140 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="Aidenfury19"]

Even you should know better than to try and post this crap as anything other than the feverish dreams of a fanboy's mind.

tenaka2

Seems accurate and what is expected, the 8970 is the GPU that will be around the 720 release time frame

THe next xbox is all about kinect, it will be equal to or slightly more powerful then the 360.

Though back in real life, the actual specs seem 50-100x more powerfull than WiiU

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#141 mitu123
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="Aidenfury19"]

Even you should know better than to try and post this crap as anything other than the feverish dreams of a fanboy's mind.

tenaka2

Seems accurate and what is expected, the 8970 is the GPU that will be around the 720 release time frame

THe next xbox is all about kinect, it will be equal to or slightly more powerful then the 360.

It'll just be weird for a console not to have a controller.

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#142 JC_Spot
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Seems accurate and what is expected, the 8970 is the GPU that will be around the 720 release time frame

mitu123

THe next xbox is all about kinect, it will be equal to or slightly more powerful then the 360.

It'll just be weird for a console not to have a controller.

You are the controller ;)
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#143 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

THe next xbox is all about kinect, it will be equal to or slightly more powerful then the 360.

JC_Spot

It'll just be weird for a console not to have a controller.

You are the controller ;)

I want to be human, not pretending to be a device.:P

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#144 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Seems accurate and what is expected, the 8970 is the GPU that will be around the 720 release time frame

loosingENDS

THe next xbox is all about kinect, it will be equal to or slightly more powerful then the 360.

Though back in real life, the actual specs seem 50-100x more powerfull than WiiU

Back in real life you don't have any actual specs.

Just fanboi dreams.....

You are a liar.

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#145 Vesica_Prime
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The Playstation 4 will have 16 9970 ATi GPUs each with 8GB of VRAM, 128 GB of RAM and the processor is based off Intel's i70 processor that they're currently manufactoring in Area 51.

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#146 ziggyww
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="Aidenfury19"]

Even you should know better than to try and post this crap as anything other than the feverish dreams of a fanboy's mind.

Aidenfury19

Seems accurate and what is expected, the 8970 is the GPU that will be around the 720 release time frame

The HDx970s GPUs are the high-end parts which means they're expensive, power-hungry, and huge. That alone tells me the whole thing is fake, the ridiculous claims of dual CPUs (because AMD is NOT coming out with a 16 core CPU for anything other than servers) and the poster's clear lack of a clue about what is being described just drives the nails in further.

Now I understand you enjoy being a fanboy, but can you at least do some quality control on the BS rumors you post? It helps if they're at least a little bit believable.

The cell in sonys ps3 is 8core and was co designed along with IBM etc who used it in some of their servers. a processor is a processor and if your putting a very large order for loads the cost per one drops and the ps3 was sold for a loss when it came out anyway. so who knows...most rumours are fake though
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#147 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

THe next xbox is all about kinect, it will be equal to or slightly more powerful then the 360.

tenaka2

Though back in real life, the actual specs seem 50-100x more powerfull than WiiU

Back in real life you don't have any actual specs.

Just fanboi dreams.....

You are a liar.


Actually we do, those are specs leaked from Durango conference, which was very much real

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#148 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Though back in real life, the actual specs seem 50-100x more powerfull than WiiU

loosingENDS

Back in real life you don't have any actual specs.

Just fanboi dreams.....

You are a liar.


Actually we do, those are specs leaked from Durango conference, which was very much real

In your deranged mind, many things appear real that are in fact imaginary.

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#149 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Back in real life you don't have any actual specs.

Just fanboi dreams.....

You are a liar.

tenaka2


Actually we do, those are specs leaked from Durango conference, which was very much real

In your deranged mind, many things appear real that are in fact imaginary.

Durango conference was real

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#150 gpuking
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Though back in real life, the actual specs seem 50-100x more powerfull than WiiU

loosingENDS

Back in real life you don't have any actual specs.

Just fanboi dreams.....

You are a liar.


Actually we do, those are specs leaked from Durango conference, which was very much real

LOL 8970 alone will set the 720 on fire upon power on, just don't post these threads and claim ownage if you don't know a jack about console tech, especially you LoosingEnds.