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#1 Pimp_Dog09
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This is only half true why yes the first thought of late 2010 or 2011 will not happen. This will though Fall launch 2012 Xbox 720. This will mean the 360 would have a 7 year lifespan and that is a good run. And this also means this will give the 360 from current another 3 1/2 years this is perfect and MS will launch the 720 in fall 2012.

So this is only about half true but it does have some merit.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-10293805-17.html

As for PS4 they can only launch as early as 2014 they need to make some profit after the HUGE losses on PS3. So in tern this means Sony will loose again next gen also.

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#2 mitu123
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If true, that'll be good, we can wait.

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#3 SpruceCaboose
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Your link makes no claims or conjectures about the release time frames of either the PS4 or next Xbox systems, so where are you pulling 2010-2012?

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#4 scorch-62
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As long as it's not called the Xbox720, I don't care.
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I hope not. I want this gen to last longer than last.
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I hope not. I want this gen to last longer than last.aaronmullan

7 years is so perfect for MS that is the real sweet spot it gives them several years of profit from the 360 as they already made some profit this year. And 7 years put it right at the border line for everyone ready for better graphics.

As for Sony they are pretty much ****** they most likely will not begin to see profits until 2012 on the current PS3. This all makes perfect sense here people I think this is a fairly accurate assumption on things.

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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]I hope not. I want this gen to last longer than last.Pimp_Dog09

7 years is so perfect for MS that is the real sweet spot it gives them several years of profit from the 360 as they already made some profit this year. And 7 years put it right at the border line for everyone ready for better graphics.

As for Sony they are pretty much ****** they most likely will not begin to see profits until 2012 on the current PS3. This all makes perfect sense here people I think this is a fairly accurate assumption on things.

Holy crap. Will that be 7 years? :o In that case... :P
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]I hope not. I want this gen to last longer than last.Pimp_Dog09

7 years is so perfect for MS that is the real sweet spot it gives them several years of profit from the 360 as they already made some profit this year. And 7 years put it right at the border line for everyone ready for better graphics.

As for Sony they are pretty much ****** they most likely will not begin to see profits until 2012 on the current PS3. This all makes perfect sense here people I think this is a fairly accurate assumption on things.

Except that MS has lost over a billion dollars on the 360 (and industry rumors indicate potentially a lot more), and has yet to recoop even a small portion of that.
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Pimp_Dog09"]

I hope not. I want this gen to last longer than last.aaronmullan

7 years is so perfect for MS that is the real sweet spot it gives them several years of profit from the 360 as they already made some profit this year. And 7 years put it right at the border line for everyone ready for better graphics.

As for Sony they are pretty much ****** they most likely will not begin to see profits until 2012 on the current PS3. This all makes perfect sense here people I think this is a fairly accurate assumption on things.

Except that MS has lost over a billion dollars on the 360 (and industry rumors indicate potentially a lot more), and has yet to recoop even a small portion of that.

They should get a bailout! :P
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#10 Pimp_Dog09
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[QUOTE="Pimp_Dog09"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]I hope not. I want this gen to last longer than last.SpruceCaboose

7 years is so perfect for MS that is the real sweet spot it gives them several years of profit from the 360 as they already made some profit this year. And 7 years put it right at the border line for everyone ready for better graphics.

As for Sony they are pretty much ****** they most likely will not begin to see profits until 2012 on the current PS3. This all makes perfect sense here people I think this is a fairly accurate assumption on things.

Except that MS has lost over a billion dollars on the 360 (and industry rumors indicate potentially a lot more), and has yet to recoop even a small portion of that.

Yes for sure they look at the money lost but trust me MS is happy with the whoopingf they have handed Sony so far. And when you know things about buisness they know in the long run they have Sony beat and it's all up hill and gravy now.

And MS was very smart from launch even sayin Wii 360 becuase they new the lower 249.00 Wii would most likey beat them but they also new that they had a rea chance to hurt Sony and that they have done and done so very well.

So now with Project Natal and once again MS genuis marleting they will bring Natal to the mainstream and make it a standard so when 720 launches in late 2012 it will come with built in Natal and everyone will want it including most casuels.

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i don't think M$ have a clue when to release another console, or if they should it all depends on how profitable the 360 is, and how natal does
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#12 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="Pimp_Dog09"]

I hope not. I want this gen to last longer than last.aaronmullan

7 years is so perfect for MS that is the real sweet spot it gives them several years of profit from the 360 as they already made some profit this year. And 7 years put it right at the border line for everyone ready for better graphics.

As for Sony they are pretty much ****** they most likely will not begin to see profits until 2012 on the current PS3. This all makes perfect sense here people I think this is a fairly accurate assumption on things.

Holy crap. Will that be 7 years? :o In that case... :P

6-7 years sounds perfect. Anything longer than that would be annoying and the gen after that would have to be a very huge jump.
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I don't expect a new console for several more years, not in 3...
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="Pimp_Dog09"]

7 years is so perfect for MS that is the real sweet spot it gives them several years of profit from the 360 as they already made some profit this year. And 7 years put it right at the border line for everyone ready for better graphics.

As for Sony they are pretty much ****** they most likely will not begin to see profits until 2012 on the current PS3. This all makes perfect sense here people I think this is a fairly accurate assumption on things.

SparkyProtocol

Holy crap. Will that be 7 years? :o In that case... :P

6-7 years sounds perfect. Anything longer than that would be annoying and the gen after that would have to be a very huge jump.

A custome GPU in the 720 will be a HUGE leap I mean look at Crysis already now. Imagine 3/4 years from now it will be HUGE for sure.

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Shame the world will end in 2012 isn't it then.
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imo, that's really late. I was hoping for a 2010 release. Now we have to put up with the same outdated graphics for another 3 years.
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As long as it's not called the Xbox720, I don't care.scorch-62

This. honestly, Microsoft and Sony need to come up with more creative names. At least Nintendo has the guts and creativity to make new names for their consoles (well, at least for the Wii).

Even if Microsoft continues with the Xbox name, it will most likely be called 1080.

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#19 Pimp_Dog09
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imo, that's really late. I was hoping for a 2010 release. Now we have to put up with the same outdated graphics for another 3 years.Mystery_Writer

I would not say exactly outdated. I mean They look good in HD on a nice HD TV. Now if I was still playing a PS2 I would just Off myself:lol:

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#20 Pimp_Dog09
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imo, that's really late. I was hoping for a 2010 release. Now we have to put up with the same outdated graphics for another 3 years.Mystery_Writer

At first I did also. And even if they still do I'd be a day one launch buyer for sure. But now I'm cool with a 2012 it gives developers sometime to realy be creative and find ways to do some nifty tricks with the systems.

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#21 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="aaronmullan"] Holy crap. Will that be 7 years? :o In that case... :PPimp_Dog09

6-7 years sounds perfect. Anything longer than that would be annoying and the gen after that would have to be a very huge jump.

A custome GPU in the 720 will be a HUGE leap I mean look at Crysis already now. Imagine 3/4 years from now it will be HUGE for sure.

Maybe. You never know. I am sure Epic games will make sure that MS makes a huge jump.(they will need to be able to use UE4)
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I dont see MS or Sony making a new console any time soon.
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As long as I can play ALL my old games I will be happy. Oh and it has to have a HDD that I can switch out without buying a 200$ HDD for only 120gigs.(yes I know I am exaggerating)

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nintendo will prolly ruin there plans of making 360 and PS3 last til 2015, plus PC devs will leave PS3/360 if they don't evolve to compete with PCs using 4GBs of RAM or more in 2011, 2012

you see 360 and PS3 keep selling in 2011, and BAM! HD Wii with PS3 or 360 level hardware, maybe better, and then nintendo finally can get the multiplats, and if they market it half as well as the first wii, it will win any gen its in. (sales-wise)

but then when nintendo makes a new console (coz they can increase the hardware without hurting costs, they can make a 360 level console in 2010 or 2012, it will be insanely profitable, and it will be new to all consumers as they won't know its still last gen )

then does MS and Sony compete with Ninty's new console? make their own new ones? do they make it a small ugrade like GCN to Wii , or huge one like PS2 to PS3?

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[QUOTE="Pimp_Dog09"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]I hope not. I want this gen to last longer than last.SpruceCaboose

7 years is so perfect for MS that is the real sweet spot it gives them several years of profit from the 360 as they already made some profit this year. And 7 years put it right at the border line for everyone ready for better graphics.

As for Sony they are pretty much ****** they most likely will not begin to see profits until 2012 on the current PS3. This all makes perfect sense here people I think this is a fairly accurate assumption on things.

Except that MS has lost over a billion dollars on the 360 (and industry rumors indicate potentially a lot more), and has yet to recoop even a small portion of that.

MS gaming division made profit for the last 2 years, where have you been?, they have been making profit on the 360 since the beginning of 2008
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Pimp_Dog09"]

7 years is so perfect for MS that is the real sweet spot it gives them several years of profit from the 360 as they already made some profit this year. And 7 years put it right at the border line for everyone ready for better graphics.

As for Sony they are pretty much ****** they most likely will not begin to see profits until 2012 on the current PS3. This all makes perfect sense here people I think this is a fairly accurate assumption on things.

delta3074

Except that MS has lost over a billion dollars on the 360 (and industry rumors indicate potentially a lot more), and has yet to recoop even a small portion of that.

MS gaming division made profit for the last 2 years, where have you been?, they have been making profit on the 360 since the beginning of 2008

That is just it though, they only made profit during those quarters but have not recoup their loses in total. Which doesn't even matter once the quarter has come and gone.

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nintendo will prolly ruin there plans of making 360 and PS3 last til 2015, plus PC devs will leave PS3/360 if they don't evolve to compete with PCs using 4GBs of RAM or more in 2011, 2012

you see 360 and PS3 keep selling in 2011, and BAM! HD Wii with PS3 or 360 level hardware, maybe better, and then nintendo finally can get the multiplats, and if they market it half as well as the first wii, it will win any gen its in. (sales-wise)

but then when nintendo makes a new console (coz they can increase the hardware without hurting costs, they can make a 360 level console in 2010 or 2012, it will be insanely profitable, and it will be new to all consumers as they won't know its still last gen )

then does MS and Sony compete with Ninty's new console? make their own new ones? do they make it a small ugrade like GCN to Wii , or huge one like PS2 to PS3?

darth-pyschosis

2015 sounds horrible(unless you mean like what they do now with PS2) I am glad I also game on PC this gen.

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[QUOTE="Pimp_Dog09"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Pimp_Dog09"]

7 years is so perfect for MS that is the real sweet spot it gives them several years of profit from the 360 as they already made some profit this year. And 7 years put it right at the border line for everyone ready for better graphics.

As for Sony they are pretty much ****** they most likely will not begin to see profits until 2012 on the current PS3. This all makes perfect sense here people I think this is a fairly accurate assumption on things.

Except that MS has lost over a billion dollars on the 360 (and industry rumors indicate potentially a lot more), and has yet to recoop even a small portion of that.

Yes for sure they look at the money lost but trust me MS is happy with the whoopingf they have handed Sony so far. And when you know things about buisness they know in the long run they have Sony beat and it's all up hill and gravy now.

And MS was very smart from launch even sayin Wii 360 becuase they new the lower 249.00 Wii would most likey beat them but they also new that they had a rea chance to hurt Sony and that they have done and done so very well.

So now with Project Natal and once again MS genuis marleting they will bring Natal to the mainstream and make it a standard so when 720 launches in late 2012 it will come with built in Natal and everyone will want it including most casuels.

Lol I doubt MS will be happy until they see an overall profit. Tbh i dont want sony to start that early, the ps3 still has so much more to offer and i dont mind waiting as long as its more advanced.
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No new consoles till 2014~2015 my crystal ball is 100% sure about it.

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Except that MS has lost over a billion dollars on the 360 (and industry rumors indicate potentially a lot more), and has yet to recoop even a small portion of that.

The point wasn't to make a ton of money, though - it was to derail Sony long enough to get PCs into the living room. They haven't followed through on the PCs-in-living-rooms part yet, but Sony looks pretty derailed to me. Most of that can be attributed to Nintendo, though.
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Shame the world will end in 2012 isn't it then. Maqda7
lol, why are the Mayans always right? The link says longer than 6 years. I don't think that means 7. Besides, with all those consoles out there wouldn't it be smarter to continue raking in profits?
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Except that MS has lost over a billion dollars on the 360 (and industry rumors indicate potentially a lot more), and has yet to recoop even a small portion of that.spinecaton

MS gaming division made profit for the last 2 years, where have you been?, they have been making profit on the 360 since the beginning of 2008

That is just it though, they only made profit during those quarters but have not recoup their loses in total. Which doesn't even matter once the quarter has come and gone.

You are misinformed if you think MS has been looking to make money on the Xbox product short term...its far more important to get a userbase and dethrone the top dog than to lose...a couple billion rofl. They will have no problems regaining money lost in any division when windows 7 is released.
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[QUOTE="Pimp_Dog09"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]I hope not. I want this gen to last longer than last.SpruceCaboose

7 years is so perfect for MS that is the real sweet spot it gives them several years of profit from the 360 as they already made some profit this year. And 7 years put it right at the border line for everyone ready for better graphics.

As for Sony they are pretty much ****** they most likely will not begin to see profits until 2012 on the current PS3. This all makes perfect sense here people I think this is a fairly accurate assumption on things.

Except that MS has lost over a billion dollars on the 360 (and industry rumors indicate potentially a lot more), and has yet to recoop even a small portion of that.

not to mention the 4 billion on the original xbox

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if natal flops, which it will, then its going to be maybe Late 2011

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As long as it's not called the Xbox720, I don't care.scorch-62
This. I mean, how unimaginative can you be??
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"]As long as it's not called the Xbox720, I don't care.GodofBigMacs
This. I mean, how unimaginative can you be??

When you name your console Playstation 4...:o

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[QUOTE="GodofBigMacs"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]As long as it's not called the Xbox720, I don't care.WESTBLADE

This. I mean, how unimaginative can you be??

When you name your console Playstation 4...:o

I hope both motion controllers flop so MS and Sony dont go Wii on us and drag this gen out to long.
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="Pimp_Dog09"]

7 years is so perfect for MS that is the real sweet spot it gives them several years of profit from the 360 as they already made some profit this year. And 7 years put it right at the border line for everyone ready for better graphics.

As for Sony they are pretty much ****** they most likely will not begin to see profits until 2012 on the current PS3. This all makes perfect sense here people I think this is a fairly accurate assumption on things.

SparkyProtocol

Holy crap. Will that be 7 years? :o In that case... :P

6-7 years sounds perfect. Anything longer than that would be annoying and the gen after that would have to be a very huge jump.

6 years better warrant a huge jump. The jump from xbox to 360 was huge in just 4 years, the difference with 6 years better be even more huge than the first huge.

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Pimp_Dog09"]

7 years is so perfect for MS that is the real sweet spot it gives them several years of profit from the 360 as they already made some profit this year. And 7 years put it right at the border line for everyone ready for better graphics.

As for Sony they are pretty much ****** they most likely will not begin to see profits until 2012 on the current PS3. This all makes perfect sense here people I think this is a fairly accurate assumption on things.

Riverwolf007

Except that MS has lost over a billion dollars on the 360 (and industry rumors indicate potentially a lot more), and has yet to recoop even a small portion of that.

not to mention the 4 billion on the original xbox

The main reason for that loss was because of the warrenty extension they had to give because of the RROD. They wont release a faulty system at launch twice.

Edit: hopefully.

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#40 darth-pyschosis
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if natal flops, which it will, then its going to be maybe Late 2011

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You sir, may be on to something,...

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#41 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="aaronmullan"] Holy crap. Will that be 7 years? :o In that case... :PTrmpt

6-7 years sounds perfect. Anything longer than that would be annoying and the gen after that would have to be a very huge jump.

6 years better warrant a huge jump. The jump from xbox to 360 was huge in just 4 years, the difference with 6 years better be huge.

I also expect 4 gigs minimum.
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#42 Puckhog04
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I can guarantee you it won't be called the "Xbox 720". The idea behind the "360" name is that the console revolves around what the owner likes (like a circle), hence 360 (as in 360 degrees). Either way, I'm still happy with this generation to keep going. I'm loving all the consoles and my PC games, as always.

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#43 topgunmv
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This. The fact that xbox has a good installed base now means they don't have to rush out with something. Sony invested heavily in ps3 so they won't be pushing something new out anytime soon. Wii prints money, so there's no reason for nintendo to come out with anything different, maybe a wii hd, but that's it for a while. There's just no real incentive or demand right now to release new consoles. Just look at the nintendo ds, nintendo said they could have released a new handheld, but there was no demand for it, so they scrapped those plans.

I dont see MS or Sony making a new console any time soon.Nonstop-Madness

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#44 Heretix_Aevum
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Cbf reading the link. I have no idea what the next M$ console will be like, as long as the nextbox doesn't have a bigger number on the end of 'xbox' then I'm fine. I see nothing wrong with the Playstation names. Really, it's easy to understand and creates an obvious timeline. PS4 is fine for me. And the rumoured WiiHD is cool with me. If it's going to be a Wii with up to date graphics, then why not? It works. I would have to kill myself is an Xbox720 was released...

But yeah, I'm excited for next gen, even though we're maybe not even half-way through this one...

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#45 Hanass
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[QUOTE="Maqda7"]Shame the world will end in 2012 isn't it then. gamefan274
lol, why are the Mayans always right? The link says longer than 6 years. I don't think that means 7. Besides, with all those consoles out there wouldn't it be smarter to continue raking in profits?

It's not just the Mayans, it's the scientists too. You should watch Discovery Channel more often.

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#46 scorch-62
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I mean They look good in HD on a nice HD TV. Now if I was still playing a PS2 I would just Off myself:lol:Pimp_Dog09
I wanted to when I went back to my PS2 to play some Ratchet & Clank... it doesn't even fit my entire screen. :cry:
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#47 scorch-62
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The idea behind the "360" name is that the console revolves around what the owner likes (like a circle), hence 360 (as in 360 degrees).Puckhog04
I still find it humorous when I hear the "because when you see it, you turn 360 degrees and walk away" excuse. :lol:
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#48 Hanass
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[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]The idea behind the "360" name is that the console revolves around what the owner likes (like a circle), hence 360 (as in 360 degrees).scorch-62
I still find it humorous when I hear the "because when you see it, you turn 360 degrees and walk away" excuse. :lol:

That makes zero sense at all... When you turn 360 degrees you are still facing the same direction.

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#49 lowe0
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]The idea behind the "360" name is that the console revolves around what the owner likes (like a circle), hence 360 (as in 360 degrees).Hanass

I still find it humorous when I hear the "because when you see it, you turn 360 degrees and walk away" excuse. :lol:

That makes zero sense at all... When you turn 360 degrees you are still facing the same direction.

Congratulations! You figured out why he thinks it's funny!
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]The idea behind the "360" name is that the console revolves around what the owner likes (like a circle), hence 360 (as in 360 degrees).Hanass

I still find it humorous when I hear the "because when you see it, you turn 360 degrees and walk away" excuse. :lol:

That makes zero sense at all... When you turn 360 degrees you are still facing the same direction.

Sure it does, they turn 180 and realize how great the 360 is then do another 180 and buy the system and then walk away. :D