Xbox ellete Confirmed by M$ link

http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEZulZAVllpgNRLjqX.php
PWNT btw whats the point of them adding hdmi? they have the dvi cables
Squall_Griver

They added HDMI in preparation of their future IPTV service.

http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEZulZAVllpgNRLjqX.php
PWNT btw whats the point of them adding hdmi? they have the dvi cables
Squall_Griver

Wonder what the 120 gig HDD will retail for, and if MS will have an easy way to transfer saves.SpruceCaboose

My guess is that after the black Eilte becomes the new premium (that is, once it becomes white in color) the 120 gig hard drive will go on sale for $99, same retail price as the 20 gig has right now. The 20 gig drive will no longer be for sale separately.

The current 20 gig premium will become the new Core, and the 20 gig drive will become standard. Those that buy the Core with its 20 gig drive will have the option of upgrading to a 120 gig drive for $99.

This is all guess work on my part.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Wonder what the 120 gig HDD will retail for, and if MS will have an easy way to transfer saves.thinicer

My guess is that after the black Eilte becomes the new premium (that is, once it becomes white in color) the 120 gig hard drive will go on sale for $99, same retail price as the 20 gig has right now. The 20 gig drive will no longer be for sale separately.

The current 20 gig premium will become the new Core, and the 20 gig drive will become standard. Those that buy the Core with its 20 gig drive will have the option of upgrading to a 120 gig drive for $99.

This is all guess work on my part.

lemmings got owned by there own company ouch . big time to! this is just a gimick to get more sales to o well.deadmeat59

    How so? I am not required to buy this new model. Its like the Slim-line PS2, or even the PSOne. Thats not ownage, that is a re-design. 

lemmings got owned by there own company ouch . big time to! this is just a gimick to get more sales to o well.deadmeat59

As a 360 owner, I am not going to get the new 360. I have no need, whatsoever, for an HDMI video game console.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Wonder what the 120 gig HDD will retail for, and if MS will have an easy way to transfer saves.thinicer

My guess is that after the black Eilte becomes the new premium (that is, once it becomes white in color) the 120 gig hard drive will go on sale for $99, same retail price as the 20 gig has right now. The 20 gig drive will no longer be for sale separately.

The current 20 gig premium will become the new Core, and the 20 gig drive will become standard. Those that buy the Core with its 20 gig drive will have the option of upgrading to a 120 gig drive for $99.

This is all guess work on my part.

The Core **** everything up. 3 SKU's sounds like a really bad idea but after a year and a half on the market, they should offer something under $300.pins_basic

I think that the 3 SKUs will only exist momentarily. The Elite will be a limited run and it will be Microsoft's way of introducing their HDMI feature & 120 gig drive, and then phasing it into becoming the new Premium. They will market the new console as "IPTV-ready."

It is my guess that the existing Core, without hard drive, is done in a couple of months. It will no longer be for sale.

Ouch,it's now official that the 360 was rushed.Dualshockin

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]lemmings got owned by there own company ouch . big time to! this is just a gimick to get more sales to o well.SpruceCaboose

How so? I am not required to buy this new model. Its like the Slim-line PS2, or even the PSOne. Thats not ownage, that is a re-design.

    Wonder what the 120 gig HDD will retail for, and if MS will have an easy way to transfer saves.SpruceCaboose

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"]Ouch,it's now official that the 360 was rushed.Spartan070

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]lemmings got owned by there own company ouch . big time to! this is just a gimick to get more sales to o well.Dualshockin

How so? I am not required to buy this new model. Its like the Slim-line PS2, or even the PSOne. Thats not ownage, that is a re-design.

    And the Slim PS2 made the PS HDD useless. Your point?

    As long as my current 360 continues to function, I am fine. I don't need a larger HDD or HDMI. If someone did, now they can have it.

    As for myself, I don't need either. The only thing I would want on the new SKU is the 65mm processor, and not the 90mm one my 360 currently has, but I think I could arrange to having some "red rings" before my 2 year warranty expires. :)

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]lemmings got owned by there own company ouch . big time to! this is just a gimick to get more sales to o well.SpruceCaboose

How so? I am not required to buy this new model. Its like the Slim-line PS2, or even the PSOne. Thats not ownage, that is a re-design.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"]Ouch,it's now official that the 360 was rushed.Dualshockin

Ouch,it's now official that the 360 was rushed.Dualshockin

Microsoft was smart to release the 360 when they did. 

[QUOTE="Squall_Griver"]http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEZulZAVllpgNRLjqX.php
PWNT btw whats the point of them adding hdmi? they have the dvi cables
D0013ER

you fail those were small upgrades. for 360 its a huge upgrade its massive you getHDMI 120gb hard drive witch is 100 gbs more you get a better disc drive to. thats a freaking huge update so stop it with your freaking damage control . my bro has a 360 and he is pissed about this i know many 360 fans are mad about it.deadmeat59

I guess he was unhappy with his console the entire time he owned it then. 

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]lemmings got owned by there own company ouch . big time to! this is just a gimick to get more sales to o well.SpruceCaboose

How so? I am not required to buy this new model. Its like the Slim-line PS2, or even the PSOne. Thats not ownage, that is a re-design.

And the Slim PS2 made the PS HDD useless. Your point?

As long as my current 360 continues to function, I am fine. I don't need a larger HDD or HDMI. If someone did, now they can have it.

As for myself, I don't need either. The only thing I would want on the new SKU is the 65mm processor, and not the 90mm one my 360 currently has, but I think I could arrange to having some "red rings" before my 2 year warranty expires. :)

[QUOTE="thinicer"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Wonder what the 120 gig HDD will retail for, and if MS will have an easy way to transfer saves.haols

My guess is that after the black Eilte becomes the new premium (that is, once it becomes white in color) the 120 gig hard drive will go on sale for $99, same retail price as the 20 gig has right now. The 20 gig drive will no longer be for sale separately.

The current 20 gig premium will become the new Core, and the 20 gig drive will become standard. Those that buy the Core with its 20 gig drive will have the option of upgrading to a 120 gig drive for $99.

This is all guess work on my part.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]lemmings got owned by there own company ouch . big time to! this is just a gimick to get more sales to o well.deadmeat59

How so? I am not required to buy this new model. Its like the Slim-line PS2, or even the PSOne. Thats not ownage, that is a re-design.

    Umm, no, the disc drives have gone through a few updates already, and systems usually have different drive models throughout their lives.

    As for the subtraction, I can do that myself. I know 120 is 100 more than 20. It still does not change the fact that I have no use for a larger HDD or HDMI.

    Its not damage control. They are launching a model that has more space than a PS3 and HDMI, for $120 less than the 60 gig PS3. I am not the one who needs damage control here. 

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"]Ouch,it's now official that the 360 was rushed.thinicer

Microsoft was smart to release the 360 when they did.

Yup,but the difference is,the slimline was a cosmetic change,not a system upgrade,the HDD's only value was for Final Fantasy anyways. The only way MS can make the new 360 justifiable is if they reduce the price for the current premium to $349.99 And even then,their plans for the 360 will still be a mystery.Dualshockin

    I would be willing to bet, if they keep this new model at $400, the current premium would go to $300. If they leave this version at $480, I don't see the premium dropping in price, but then they would almost have to keep the Core around.

    Still, there is no official word, so pricing is still speculation.

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]lemmings got owned by there own company ouch . big time to! this is just a gimick to get more sales to o well.SpruceCaboose

How so? I am not required to buy this new model. Its like the Slim-line PS2, or even the PSOne. Thats not ownage, that is a re-design.

    Umm, no, the disc drives have gone through a few updates already, and systems usually have different drive models throughout their lives.

    As for the subtraction, I can do that myself. I know 120 is 100 more than 20. It still does not change the fact that I have no use for a larger HDD or HDMI.

    Its not damage control. They are launching a model that has more space than a PS3 and HDMI, for $120 less than the 60 gig PS3. I am not the one who needs damage control here. 

Oh really?Dualshockin

Yes really. The year head start has been the biggest help to the console by far. If there are manufacturing problems Microsoft is dealing with them on a case by case basis. But it was important for the company to be the first ones out of the gate, especially around the holiday season. Going toe-to-toe with the PS3 and launching at the same time as the console would not have been a good strategy for them.

Dis jus piss me I buy a new 360 at launch and it mashup 2 times then dem fix it and now dem gonna release a one wid hdmi ana 120 gig hard drive. Ms mus take we fe a idiot!!

Dem know dat likle 20 gig was too small with all da video an now we supposed to buy a 120 gig fe another $199 just fe use de service. Dey can go suck dem self me na ga buy a next one !!

Dem rush out the 360 fe beat sony when dem know de ps3 come wid everyting ana dis jus prove it. 

Are you forgetting the built in wi-fi that the PS3 has? Tack on another $100.JayPee89

    Then we tack on every other option that is not needed by everyone to the price. You tack on wi-fi, I tack on a headset. You tack on play & charge kit, I tack on HD cables. See how it keeps going?

    If you go down that road, eventually you might as well add on the cost of every game and download. 

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]lemmings got owned by there own company ouch . big time to! this is just a gimick to get more sales to o well.SpruceCaboose

How so? I am not required to buy this new model. Its like the Slim-line PS2, or even the PSOne. Thats not ownage, that is a re-design.

He said lemming in general. Slim-line and PSOne, or the new DS is a mini version, they are not superior than their brother. Changing flag-ship design, advance the console by taking baby step, that's milking the fan.

Soon they gonna roll out service that require you to have the new Xbox, or worse, roll out games that require you to have Hard Drive. And bullsh!t like "Elite, limited edition" is obviously milking, you might not fall for it, but some people gonna have to pay about $80 more than they should just because M$ paint the console black. (Ask yourself, what the hell make something a LIMITED EDITION, in this case...because MS said so )

Obviously Microsoft strategy is to not treat every of their gamers equally, you are being categorized (HD equipped, not HD-equipped, Silver, Gold, Core, Premium, Elite, IPTV-ready or not (on-demand HD tv service required a secure tranfer (HDMI) .) and treated differently. Yes lemming are being owned, worse, they don't even realised it.

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"] Yup,but the difference is,the slimline was a cosmetic change,not a system upgrade,the HDD's only value was for Final Fantasy anyways. The only way MS can make the new 360 justifiable is if they reduce the price for the current premium to $349.99 And even then,their plans for the 360 will still be a mystery.SpruceCaboose

I would be willing to bet, if they keep this new model at $400, the current premium would go to $300. If they leave this version at $480, I don't see the premium dropping in price, but then they would almost have to keep the Core around.

Still, there is no official word, so pricing is still speculation.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]lemmings got owned by there own company ouch . big time to! this is just a gimick to get more sales to o well.tranhgiang

How so? I am not required to buy this new model. Its like the Slim-line PS2, or even the PSOne. Thats not ownage, that is a re-design.

He said lemming in general. Slim-line and PSOne, or the new DS is a mini version, they are not superior than their brother. Changing flag-ship design, advance the console by taking baby step, that's milking the fan.

Soon they gonna roll out service that require you to have the new Xbox, or worse, roll out games that require you to have Hard Drive. And bullsh!t like "Elite, limited edition" is obviously milking, you might not fall for it, but some people gonna have to pay about $80 more than they should just because M$ paint the console black. (Ask yourself, what the hell make something a LIMITED EDITION, in this case...because MS said so )

Obviously Microsoft strategy is to not treat every of their gamers equally, you are being categorized (HD equipped, not HD-equipped, Silver, Gold, Core, Premium, Elite, IPTV-ready or not (on-demand HD tv service required a secure tranfer (HDMI) .) and treated differently. Yes lemming are being owned, worse, they don't even realised it.

Dis jus piss me I buy a new 360 at launch and it mashup 2 times then dem fix it and now dem gonna release a one wid hdmi ana 120 gig hard drive. Ms mus take we fe a idiot!!

Dem know dat likle 20 gig was too small with all da video an now we supposed to buy a 120 gig fe another $199 just fe use de service. Dey can go suck dem self me na ga buy a next one !!

Dem rush out the 360 fe beat sony when dem know de ps3 come wid everyting ana dis jus prove it. 

ChiChiMonKilla

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Wonder what the 120 gig HDD will retail for, and if MS will have an easy way to transfer saves.thinicer

My guess is that after the black Eilte becomes the new premium (that is, once it becomes white in color) the 120 gig hard drive will go on sale for $99, same retail price as the 20 gig has right now. The 20 gig drive will no longer be for sale separately.

The current 20 gig premium will become the new Core, and the 20 gig drive will become standard. Those that buy the Core with its 20 gig drive will have the option of upgrading to a 120 gig drive for $99.

This is all guess work on my part.

that sounds good except that the 120 gb hdd will probably retail for $180-$200 at first then drop in price and replace the 20 gb hdd after a year. this way, those who bought a 20 gb hdd won't feel ripped off. (not me, a bought a premium last april:D).

He said lemming in general. Slim-line and PSOne, or the new DS is a mini version, they are not superior than their brother. Changing flag-ship design, advance the console by taking baby step, that's milking the fan.

Soon they gonna roll out service that require you to have the new Xbox, or worse, roll out games that require you to have Hard Drive. And bullsh!t like "Elite, limited edition" is obviously milking, you might not fall for it, but some people gonna have to pay about $80 more than they should just because M$ paint the console black. (Ask yourself, what the hell make something a LIMITED EDITION, in this case...because MS said so )

Obviously Microsoft strategy is to not treat every of their gamers equally, you are being categorized (HD equipped, not HD-equipped, Silver, Gold, Core, Premium, Elite, IPTV-ready or not (on-demand HD tv service required a secure tranfer (HDMI) .) and treated differently. Yes lemming are being owned, worse, they don't even realised it.

tranhgiang

    And yet, you are assuming things. MS has treated the customers the same. I have XBL Gold, and HDTV, and the Premium 360, and yet, I play the same Gears of War as someone with no Live, a SDTV, and a Core 360.

    You are so far just thinking to yourself what if MS makes games that require this new system (which is ridiculous since HDMI and larger HDD do not affect the game at all) or an HDD, although some games, on a developer to deveolper basis could require an HDD, just like FF on PS2. That is also not ownage, that is a developer making a design choice.

    In this case, its limited because its black, and it will eventually be white, which makes the black case "limited" since it won't last forever.

    I would be owned if I had to buy this new model in order to play games. I am not required to do so, thus, I am not owned.

Dis jus piss me I buy a new 360 at launch and it mashup 2 times then dem fix it and now dem gonna release a one wid hdmi ana 120 gig hard drive. Ms mus take we fe a idiot!!

Dem know dat likle 20 gig was too small with all da video an now we supposed to buy a 120 gig fe another $199 just fe use de service. Dey can go suck dem self me na ga buy a next one !!

Dem rush out the 360 fe beat sony when dem know de ps3 come wid everyting ana dis jus prove it.

ChiChiMonKilla

if you speak like this in real life, then everyone would think you're an idiot, not just ms. 

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"]Oh really?thinicer

Yes really. The year head start has been the biggest help to the console by far. If there are manufacturing problems Microsoft is dealing with them on a case by case basis. But it was important for the company to be the first ones out of the gate, especially around the holiday season. Going toe-to-toe with the PS3 and launching at the same time as the console would not have been a good strategy for them.

also they said that the 120 hdd is goin to be sold by itself for under $200, and the old user get HDMI in June so I won't need to get it:)

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Wonder what the 120 gig HDD will retail for, and if MS will have an easy way to transfer saves.thinicer

My guess is that after the black Eilte becomes the new premium (that is, once it becomes white in color) the 120 gig hard drive will go on sale for $99, same retail price as the 20 gig has right now. The 20 gig drive will no longer be for sale separately.

The current 20 gig premium will become the new Core, and the 20 gig drive will become standard. Those that buy the Core with its 20 gig drive will have the option of upgrading to a 120 gig drive for $99.

This is all guess work on my part.

[QUOTE="thinicer"]

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"]Oh really?Dualshockin

Yes really. The year head start has been the biggest help to the console by far. If there are manufacturing problems Microsoft is dealing with them on a case by case basis. But it was important for the company to be the first ones out of the gate, especially around the holiday season. Going toe-to-toe with the PS3 and launching at the same time as the console would not have been a good strategy for them.

    Its called a warrenty, if you are really worried about the quality. $50 and you have 2 years of never having to worry about it breaking. Or you could get a warrenty from most major retailers.

Dis jus piss me I buy a new 360 at launch and it mashup 2 times then dem fix it and now dem gonna release a one wid hdmi ana 120 gig hard drive. Ms mus take we fe a idiot!!

Dem know dat likle 20 gig was too small with all da video an now we supposed to buy a 120 gig fe another $199 just fe use de service. Dey can go suck dem self me na ga buy a next one !!

Dem rush out the 360 fe beat sony when dem know de ps3 come wid everyting ana dis jus prove it.

ChiChiMonKilla

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"]Ouch,it's now official that the 360 was rushed.Spartan070