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#1 abusedbunny
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both are download services that sell games, so lets compare the two.

 

current XLA has 54 games and counting, with about half of those being oldies

VC has 93 games, with all of those games being oldies

 

well at least with the 360, the oldies are enhanced with multiplayer, leaderboards, and updated graphics (yes u can switch to original too)

Some of the best of XBLA

Catan- great strategy game with clean graphics and awsome online play

Castlvania SOTN- one of the best platformers ever, and very rare ith hundreds of hours of value

Alien Hominid- Fun cartoon shooter, humorous

Joust- fun mutliplayer game with enhanced graphics and leaderboards, online play

Geometry Wars- addicting and slick visuals, dominating leaderboard

boom boom rocket- rythm game with great graphics and cool song,and easy to play

Uno- very fun to play online, webcam support, endless replay value

and the best shootem up of all time, Ikaruga, VERy rare coming very soon to xbla.

plus countless more

these games are new and cheap, with much more value than old nes games.

Some of the best of Virtual Console

MARIO 64

ZELDA OoT

Starfox

Donkey Kong country

Super marios bros

 

for me, the XBLA arcade games have more value than these, roms i can get for free on my pc.

 

 

 

 

 

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#2 AdrianWerner
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XBLA is a bit better now, but it also suffers from small ammount of original content, 95% games are ports. Altough I'm talking from pcgamer perspective, so no wonder XBLA seems almost useless for me
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#3 Plug_One
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VC has 21 games? :|
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#4 monsternachoman
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Gotta go with the classics baby!!
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#5 abusedbunny
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edit thats 93, way off!
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#6 FantasticSoup
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Starfox 64 yo. Don't mess.
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#7 Solid-CELL
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Xbox Live. No contest.
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#8 lantus
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I'm pretty sure the Wii has more than 21 games, and you forgot to mention Castle Crashers the one game I'm willing to spend money on, except for Castlevania I'd buy that.

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#9 jessesalinas
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Live Arcade

 

 

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#10 abusedbunny
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I'm pretty sure the Wii has more than 21 games, and you forgot to mention Castle Crashers the one game I'm willing to spend money on, except for Castlevania I'd buy that.

lantus

from some STUPID reason castle crashers got pushed into next year, its not even worth mentioning yet. 

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#11 springz300
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havent tried either
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#12 ArisShadows
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SNES.. = VC

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#13 FantasticSoup
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You should edit the top message to say 91 games.
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#14 jg4xchamp
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VC, more awesome games. enhance all those xbla games you want, they dont live up to some of the true amazing classics of gaming like Mario 64, OCarina of Time, Starfox 64, Sonic 2, Supermario bros, Legend of Zelda, Donkey Kong Country,etc. The VC games own XBLA.
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#16 ArisShadows
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PS3 linux emus>all

or better, PC emus>>all

xBALOx

o.o So how does that fit between these two.

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#17 foxhound_fox
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Rehashes? How is something a rehash if it is released in its original form? If anything, all the "updated" stuff on XBLA is "rehashed."

When it comes to the c-lassics, you cannot beat the VC in any way. There are just too many. NES, SNES, GEN, TG16, N64 and I hear there are Neo Geo titles coming out as well.

The Virtual Console can have original content as well... nobody has made any yet.
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#19 FantasticSoup
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Zombies ate my neighbors, Paper Mario, Mario RPG, and with Kirby superstar coming out that's at least 80 hours of gaming for about 30 some dollars. That beats most games today which costs 50 and up dollars.
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#20 foxhound_fox
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Actualy you can, you only need a PC, even without emus it will squash VC like a bug :) AdrianWerner


You forgot to mention that it is illegal.
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XBLA. Once XBLA gets Vigilante 8, Perfect Dark & 007 its over for anything the Wii will offer in the future.. you might as well shut VC down cause Im going to overload MS servers by myself blowing those three games up. I'll buy them and delete them 5 or 6 times cause I love'em so much.
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#22 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Actualy you can, you only need a PC, even without emus it will squash VC like a bug :) foxhound_fox


You forgot to mention that it is illegal.

you forgot to realize I wrote "even without emus", I mean fully legal downloadable games, not roms. 

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#23 Pro_wrestler
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PS3 linux emus>all

or better, PC emus>>all

xBALOx

If I was Sony and I knew you could emulate software via linux on PS3.... a firmware update would be out the nextday!!:D 

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#24 foxhound_fox
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you forgot to realize I wrote "even without emus", I mean fully legal downloadable games, not roms. AdrianWerner


:oops:

My apolgies... >_>
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#25 PhoebusFlows
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XBLA for me. Voice chat and online play is a big plus
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XBLA. Once XBLA gets Vigilante 8, Perfect Dark & 007 its over for anything the Wii will offer in the future.. you might as well shut VC down cause Im going to overload MS servers by myself blowing those three games up. I'll buy them and delete them 5 or 6 times cause I love'em so much.Pro_wrestler

Quote of the day :lol: :D

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#27 FantasticSoup
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You mean games that were on the N64!!!?!
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#28 abusedbunny
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well at least xba has both, classics AND new games.
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#29 Teuf_
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To me the VC is lacking big time until it has some original games.  To me that's the real beauty of a game-for-download service:  that it can support smaller indie games.
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To me the VC is lacking big time until it has some original games. To me that's the real beauty of a game-for-download service: that it can support smaller indie games.Teufelhuhn

I especially like how you can build a game with XNA then upload it to XBL to test & debug it:)

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]XBLA. Once XBLA gets Vigilante 8, Perfect Dark & 007 its over for anything the Wii will offer in the future.. you might as well shut VC down cause Im going to overload MS servers by myself blowing those three games up. I'll buy them and delete them 5 or 6 times cause I love'em so much.PhoebusFlows

Quote of the day :lol: :D

:D Its damn true. 

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#31 -n00b-
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VC ftw... mario, zelda, etc...
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#32 PhoebusFlows
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I still dont understand who holds the rights to Perfect Dark and Goldeneye, but like he said, once you get that on XBLA with voice chat and online multiplayer, it's truly over. The popularity of online Goldeneye would rival and even surprass some Xbox 360 games. (and a bigger plus if they improved the textures if possible)
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I still dont understand who holds the rights to Perfect Dark and Goldeneye, but like he said, once you get that on XBLA with voice chat and online multiplayer, it's truly over. The popularity of online Goldeneye would rival and even surprass some Xbox 360 games. (and a bigger plus if they improved the textures if possible)PhoebusFlows


Goldeneye and Perfect Dark gameplay has not aged as well as many think it has. I played Perfect Dark at a friend's about a week ago and it just was not as fun as I remember it being.
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#34 Timstuff
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Wii VC is about as bare-bones as one could imagine in terms of enhancements to the games. At least XBLA gives you a reason to buy the games again rather than using other means to play them for free.
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#35 Zhengi
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VC is better. Nintendo will soon announce their download service for new games. I think they said 2 months from now in their summit media day.
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#36 deactivated-61ff675e61178
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Why is there an Arwing from Starfox in that OoT pic? :lol:

Oh, and my vote goes to VC just because of Kirby's Adventure, Super Mario Bros., and the soon to come Super Mario Bros. 2 & 3.  All other games are just icing on the cake.  DOn't need OoT because i already have to other copies of it for n64 and GCN.  Same goes for Majora's Mask. :P

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Wii VC is about as bare-bones as one could imagine in terms of enhancements to the games. At least XBLA gives you a reason to buy the games again rather than using other means to play them for free.Timstuff


What happens if we have never purchased or played them before? What excuse would I have not to buy it then?

Those other means are illegal and not everyone likes doing illegal things just to skip out on spending a few dollars.
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#39 Zhengi
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Wii VC is about as bare-bones as one could imagine in terms of enhancements to the games. At least XBLA gives you a reason to buy the games again rather than using other means to play them for free.Timstuff
 I didn't realize that XBLA offered all the same content as the VC but with enhancements. When did that happen?
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]Wii VC is about as bare-bones as one could imagine in terms of enhancements to the games. At least XBLA gives you a reason to buy the games again rather than using other means to play them for free.Zhengi
 I didn't realize that XBLA offered all the same content as the VC but with enhancements. When did that happen?

 

not the same content, but at least it updates its old games with (optional)better graphics and online play and leaderboards, 

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#41 foxhound_fox
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not the same content, but at least it updates its old games with (optional)better graphics and online play and leaderboards, abusedbunny


I would not want Super Metroid touched at all. The game is perfect as it stands now. Messing with it would only be a detriment to it. "Fixing" the graphics would most likely destroy all the wonderful glitches in the game... thus defeating the purpose of speed running it.
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[QUOTE="abusedbunny"]not the same content, but at least it updates its old games with (optional)better graphics and online play and leaderboards, foxhound_fox


I would not want Super Metroid touched at all. The game is perfect as it stands now. Messing with it would only be a detriment to it. "Fixing" the graphics would most likely destroy all the wonderful glitches in the game... thus defeating the purpose of speed running it.

did u not read optional? u can turn the update on or off. >_> 

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#43 hazuki87
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I use both but Live Arcade just doesnt have enough really good games for me, its nice to play original games though. VC has better games and more games and its nice to be able to one day have several systems libraries worth in a single system. I choose VC.
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#44 foxhound_fox
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did u not read optional? u can turn the update on or off. >_>abusedbunny


But just doing it would ruin the experience for anyone who does not know about the subtleties of the game. They will say to themselves: "Hmm... which should I play with, the upgraded, or the old, I think I will go with upgraded seeing as how its better."

Most 2D games do not require any updates whatsoever. The art in them is great and should be left untouched. Games like Mario 64 or OoT I could see but generally, classics should stay classic. :P
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#45 Zhengi
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>

not the same content, but at least it updates its old games with (optional)better graphics and online play and leaderboards,

abusedbunny
That's Nintendo's call and it's too bad they don't do it. However, like foxhound_fox said, some games are classics and shouldn't be touched. As for me, it doesn't affect me too much unless there's a game I must have. Something that really has me excited was news that came out around launch time about companies like Hudson translating some of their TG16 games that never came out in the US. If that happens, then I'll certainly be getting those games. There's just so much potential to the VC with Nintendo, Sega, Hudson, and now SNK's back catalog of games.

One game I'm excited about is Star Fox 2 for the SNES, a game that was never released for its time. Nintendo can go ahead and complete that game and release it on VC. See what I mean?
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Ok lets settle this. Which ever one gets these games first.. wins.

Vigilante 8 & Second Offense
Marvel Vs Capcom
Perfect Dark
007

Duke Nukem
Pilot Wings (I enjoyed this more than I should have)
Beatle Racing (ROFL! Yeah right, I also enjoyed this)
Turok 2: Seeds of Evil
Banjo-tooie
Killer Instinct
Killer Instinct Gold
WWF:No Mercy

Shadows of the Empire
Superman

 

OBVIOUSLY THE LAST ONE IS A JOKE:P I will buy a Wii specifically for these games that stand out to me if they make it to VC, I sh*t you not. If they come to XBLA then more power to me. 

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#47 jessesalinas
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Ok lets settle this. Which ever one gets these games first.. wins.


Killer Instinct
Killer Instinct Gold

 

Pro_wrestler

definately killer insinct

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XBLA is good but i keep downloading games that are solid to get achievements on
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I like Killer Instinct and WWF No Mercy. I would love it if they made it online :D

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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]Wii VC is about as bare-bones as one could imagine in terms of enhancements to the games. At least XBLA gives you a reason to buy the games again rather than using other means to play them for free.foxhound_fox


What happens if we have never purchased or played them before? What excuse would I have not to buy it then?

Those other means are illegal and not everyone likes doing illegal things just to skip out on spending a few dollars.

The other means don't have to be illegal (so mods please do not suspend me for promoting illegal activity, because that's not what I'm talking about). If I have an old copy of Super Metroid for my SNES, why not fire the ol' beasty up and save $8? Or borrow my friend's copy? Point is, there are alternatives that don't cost money, and Nintendo doesn't give any reason not to use them other that VC being convinient. If they at least added prettier visuals or leaderboards or online multiplayer, I'd have a reason to play it over the original version.