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#1 Merex760
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http://www.winrumors.com/xbox-live-windows-8-gamers-can-play-against-pc-win-phone-and-xbox-video/

Between this, Windows Phone 7, and Xbox, Microsoft is seriously building an ecosystem that will be better than anything out there. I'm very impressed with what they're accomplishing here. Winrumors has the details.

The biggest detail to come out of this demo though, is that PC, 360, and Windows Phone users will be able to play cross platform against each other.

Other details of the Windows 8 service include:

  • Roaming save state
  • Title managed storage
  • Beacons
  • Avatar awards
  • Avatars
  • Friends list and community
  • Achievements and gamerscore
  • Multiplayer
  • Roaming storage
  • Real time counting services
  • Achievements

Achievement support demoed in Pinball FX2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fWGDEL-BMWU

What do you guys think of the service? How do 360 gamers feel about possibly having to play against PC gamers online armed with keyboards and mice?

Sorry about the links. Glitchspot forums, etc.

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#2 Led_poison
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It better be free otherwise its going to fail like last time
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#3 Merex760
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It better be free otherwise its going to fail like last time Led_poison

I think this is there only option if they want to compete with Steam. Granted, this is looking like a much more robust service than Steam.

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#4 ChubbyGuy40
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I really don't care about XBL is a horrible service. I won't use it even if it's free.

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#5 Birdy09
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pretty damn impressive, windows 8 and microsofts direction are fantastic.
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#6 ccagracing
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I suppose if you already pay for xbox livethen its no issue. Im sure cross platform video and audio chat will now be supported and like the user above said "I like the direction Windows 8 is going) and a single user interface/eco system for mobile, PC and Console will make things easier.

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#7 Birdy09
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The potential for Xbox/Windows 8 PC/LAptops/Tablets multiplatform gaming sales is great... just imagine it.
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#8 skrat_01
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Give me an m-e-h. Means squat without actually taking note and interest into the PC spectrum itself, than trying to shoehorn XBLA again into Windows. Wooo gee whiz achievements and avatars.
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#9 Heil68
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I really don't care about XBL is a horrible service. I won't use it even if it's free.

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Me either absolutely zero need for it.
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#10 skrat_01
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Give me an m-e-h. Means squat without actually taking note and interest into the PC spectrum itself, than trying to shoehorn XBLA again into Windows. Wooo gee whiz achievements and avatars.
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#11 Keiji993
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So that means there's no reason to have a 360 now?

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#12 Birdy09
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Give me an m-e-h. Means squat without actually taking note and interest into the PC spectrum itself, than trying to shoehorn XBLA again into Windows. Wooo gee whiz achievements and avatars.

Yet when VAlve does nothing they get loved up for it...
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#13 skrat_01
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Give me an m-e-h. Means squat without actually taking note and interest into the PC spectrum itself, than trying to shoehorn XBLA again into Windows. Wooo gee whiz achievements and avatars.
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#14 AAllxxjjnn
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They should let me join XBL party chats on my computer. Cause that's the main thing I use XBL for. Chatting with my irl pals, who all have X360.
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#15 Kinthalis
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Hmm,,

The xbox live community system is not bad, it's certianly so far the most competitive posibility vs Steam.

The problem is: if it's only Windows 8, forget it. Install base won't get very high for years. If it'll be availble to windows 7/vista users on the other hand...

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#16 Kinthalis
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Hmm,,

The xbox live community system is not bad, it's certianly so far the most competitive posibility vs Steam.

The problem is: if it's only Windows 8, forget it. Install base won't get very high for years. If it'll be availble to windows 7/vista users on the other hand...

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#18 Birdy09
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Hmm,,

The xbox live community system is not bad, it's certianly so far the most competitive posibility vs Steam.

The problem is: if it's only Windows 8, forget it. Install base won't get very high for years. If it'll be availble to windows 7/vista users on the other hand...

Kinthalis
Windows 8 will sell tons, dont forget the all the windows tablets, new windows laptops and the push for touch desktops.... it has less tha10 second boot ups and some great new features up from 7 ....
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#19 gamer-adam1
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all I want is to pay for my games once, and be able to download them anywhere, MS do this

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#20 Inconsistancy
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What exactly is with the stupid looking avatars? I'd rather have a good ol' 2d picture than some dumb looking 3d character.
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#21 woodenfork21
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It better be free otherwise its going to fail like last time Led_poison
Xbox Live failed, lol?? When? Oh, you mean since you won't pay for it it failed for you individually, alone. I get it...but as a whole Xbox Live has been very successful this gen. On-topic- looks and sounds great. Playing against pc gamers as well should be pretty cool. alotta hardcore gamers on pc as well...hmm though, does this mean there will be a lemming/hermit merger next gen? Probably not...lol.
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#22 gamer-adam1
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I really don't care about XBL is a horrible service. I won't use it even if it's free.

ChubbyGuy40

horrible how?

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#23 gamer-adam1
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It better be free otherwise its going to fail like last time Led_poison

it failed last time, because all it was, was a store, it was like the barebones of xbox live

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#24 vashkey
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All I have to say about cross platform multiplayer is that no one should have an advantage over another just for owning a different platform. If it can't be done fair then is shouldn't be done, period.
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#25 xsubtownerx
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It better be free otherwise its going to fail like last time Led_poison
This is an obvious observation, but I'd also like to add "the ability to play Xbox 360 titles on the PC" with this service.
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#26 shinrabanshou
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Microsoft actually expects people to upgrade to Windows 8? Particularly their large institutional clients??? Ridiculous.

I'm writing this on an XP computer at work. :/

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#27 Birdy09
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Microsoft actually expects people to upgrade to Windows 8? Particularly their large institutional clients??? Ridiculous.

I'm writing this on an XP computer at work. :/

shinrabanshou
No.... Microsoft isnt aiming at business with windows 8... they are aiming for the end consumor ... you know, that giant pie that apple has a free reign on at the moment....
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#28 GD1551
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They should charge us for it but let us play xbox games if we use the service.

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#29 shinrabanshou
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[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

Microsoft actually expects people to upgrade to Windows 8? Particularly their large institutional clients??? Ridiculous.

I'm writing this on an XP computer at work. :/

Birdy09

No.... Microsoft isnt aiming at business with windows 8... they are aiming for the end consumor ... you know, that giant pie that apple has a free reign on at the moment....

The vast majority of end-user consumers will use whatever operating system comes on their preassembled computer.

Microsoft despite appearances is a B2B company at core, making substantial proportions of their revenue from enterprise software clients. And every time they roll out a new Windows, IT managers groan at all the potential for security flaws. Institutions like stability.

Even with B2C the same applies but to a lesser extent. People are just moving onto Windows 7. They aren't going to want to have to go out and buy a new OS next year.

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#30 Birdy09
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[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

Microsoft actually expects people to upgrade to Windows 8? Particularly their large institutional clients??? Ridiculous.

I'm writing this on an XP computer at work. :/

shinrabanshou

No.... Microsoft isnt aiming at business with windows 8... they are aiming for the end consumor ... you know, that giant pie that apple has a free reign on at the moment....

The vast majority of end-user consumers will use whatever operating system comes on their preassembled computer.

Microsoft despite appearances is a B2B company at core, making substantial proportions of their revenue from enterprise software clients. And every time they roll out a new Windows, IT managers groan at all the potential for security flaws. Institutions like stability.

Even with B2C the same applies but to a lesser extent. People are just moving onto Windows 7. They aren't going to want to have to go out and buy a new OS next year.

This is completely different to your standard OS upgrade (XP to Vista to Windows 7 ... all similar.). You can say MS are a B2B at the core... yes... they are unchallenged in this market.... so why bother developing for it further? as you said... xp does the job.... they dont demand evolution, shinyness or innovate... they just need a low requirment base OS to run. Apple have grown alot due to thier success with the end user, that and the tablet and phone markets which are loosly tied in with thier desktop OS.... with that full package they have picked up steam and are known for quality (as much as I dislike apple....). THAT is the future aim of Windows...... and well if all goes to the current plan it will put OS X to shame. Nobody will buy it? says who? ITS COMPLETELY NEW.... not a minor upgrade like past itterations, along with its release there will be a selection of Windows 8 Tablets, Windows 8 touch laptops/desktops.... while it all picks up steam more entertainment seeking users will jump aboard. Then you have the largly improved bussiness envolvment with cloud..... far more than the minor upgrade.... completely regenerate ecosystem that will be much better than windows 7.... which imo in the grand scheme of things is nothing special... just a revision of something slightly better than xp.
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[QUOTE="Led_poison"]It better be free otherwise its going to fail like last time woodenfork21
Xbox Live failed, lol?? When? Oh, you mean since you won't pay for it it failed for you individually, alone. I get it...but as a whole Xbox Live has been very successful this gen. On-topic- looks and sounds great. Playing against pc gamers as well should be pretty cool. alotta hardcore gamers on pc as well...hmm though, does this mean there will be a lemming/hermit merger next gen? Probably not...lol.

He means GFWL. They initially made you pay for it and nobody did, so now it's free and only a few games use it.

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#32 ShadowDeathX
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I'll bite your bait Microsoft. Just keep it free and actually support it fully.
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#33 TreyoftheDead
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Cross platform will be awesome if all titles support it. :o

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#34 cloudff7tm
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Cross platform will be awesome if all titles support it. :o

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Fun for you PC players. Us console players are going to get owned lol.:P It should be pretty awesome for cooperative games though.

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#35 carlisledavid79
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Can anybody see any big named 360 exclusives heading to PC to coincide with XBL on Windows 8? Just a thought.
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[QUOTE="Led_poison"]It better be free otherwise its going to fail like last time xsubtownerx
This is an obvious observation, but I'd also like to add "the ability to play Xbox 360 titles on the PC" with this service.

If you aren't able to play 360 games on PC with it, then it's useless and I'll never use it anyway.

XBL itself is crap, and I hate using it.

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#37 dontshackzmii
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think i will skip windows 8. Windows 7 was hyped so much and it really just feelsl ike vista light with a new task bar.

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#38 Blazerdt47
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Is this free or $60 a year?

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#39 Birdy09
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think i will skip windows 8. Windows 7 was hyped so much and it really just feelsl ike vista light with a new task bar.

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... so you wont hype the actua innovative version because you hyped the non-innovative update....
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#40 razgriz_101
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Impressive but as we can see hermits are far too fickle, the sheer amount of integration is pretty good to be honest it makes it more robust and much more streamlined and 1 account for games on PC,phone and consoles is a good thing.

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#41 Birdy09
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Impressive but as we can see hermits are far too fickle, the sheer amount of integration is pretty good to be honest it makes it more robust and much more streamlined and 1 account for games on PC,phone and consoles is a good thing.

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True but only if you buy into all the products. for this to see any real effect you will need: Windows Desktop/Laptop for the enthusiast level games.... of which only a fraction will likely support this as I cant imagine Microsoft being able to force all future and existing companys into adding xbox live support (unless the infastructure is largly more like steam. And Xbox (most PC gamers dont see the point in one unless you like HAlo/Gears) And Windows 8 Tablet (not everyone has bought into these yet.... maybe windows having budget ones will help out) And Windows 8 Phone ( currently only 6% of the market and in decline.) I intend to have them all because I will be developing on .net..... but they have a LOT of work cut out for them .... being yet another year off release aswell doesnt help...
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#42 MlauTheDaft
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Which of those features are of value to me as a PC user?

And why is Multiplayer listed?

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#43 tormentos
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I really don't care about XBL is a horrible service. I won't use it even if it's free.

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No is not is a good service,is just not $60 dollars good,no matter what gimmic feature it has,i would love to have xbox live for free i don't care about facebook,twitter or netflix,nor care for party chat,just give me core online play and move on.
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#44 loosingENDS
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I dont see how you will be able to play all XBLA games from PC, for one they are only using pad and are not keyboard/mouse compatible

And then there is the piracy matter, developers like XBLA because they get actual sales than 99% pirated copies, so who would ever release for PC and XBLA at same time ?

If this is to work should require a pad on PC and be constantly online to play any XBLA title, otherwise will simply fail imo

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#45 HFkami
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nothing new in lost planet and blazblue u could cross game

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#46 John_Read
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both belongs to ms so why whining
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#47 mattuk69
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I dont see how you will be able to play all XBLA games from PC, for one they are only using pad and are not keyboard/mouse compatible

And then there is the piracy matter, developers like XBLA because they get actual sales than 99% pirated copies, so who would ever release for PC and XBLA at same time ?

If this is to work should require a pad on PC and be constantly online to play any XBLA title, otherwise will simply fail imo

loosingENDS

So PC gamers have got to lower themselves to be even with console gamers? Haha PC gaming has always been about choice. Make Consoles use keyboard and mouse how about that?

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#48 AdrianWerner
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Well...this will only be small minority of games. I don't see any pc dev choosing live over Steam or their own solution, some multiplats might, but even among them I doubt it will be a large number.

Especially since MS' "no plug-ins in metro IE" will alienate huge ammount of pc developers, so I doubt they will be willing to choose Microsoft over alternatives.

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[QUOTE="woodenfork21"][QUOTE="Led_poison"]It better be free otherwise its going to fail like last time cain006

Xbox Live failed, lol?? When? Oh, you mean since you won't pay for it it failed for you individually, alone. I get it...but as a whole Xbox Live has been very successful this gen. On-topic- looks and sounds great. Playing against pc gamers as well should be pretty cool. alotta hardcore gamers on pc as well...hmm though, does this mean there will be a lemming/hermit merger next gen? Probably not...lol.

He means GFWL. They initially made you pay for it and nobody did, so now it's free and only a few games use it.

They never made you pay for GFWL, the only game on the PC that had a cost was shadowrun and that was if you wanted to use the xbl features. And people still fail to realize there is a huge difference between xbox live and any other online system. Like psn or the completely nonexistant service PC uses. PSN is a bare bones service, it doesn't have features like voice chat or matchmaking built in for games. It's completely up to the games to support and implement those features, live just makes it a platform for games to use and can be maintained as a separate object.