XBOX LIVE GOLD members, answer me this. ADs and online play, Free?

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#1 Tjeremiah1988
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Ok, we all know there are ads on the dashboard, right? Well the other day, XBOX LIVE online play was free for ALL XBOX LIVE members including silver membership one weekend. The reason why it was free, was because of advertisement by a company who advertises on the dashboard covered the charges for everyone. So with that being said, why cant LIVE be free throughout when its clear the advertisers can make up for the "lost?"

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Because MS can make more money by charging.
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#3 haziqonfire
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The more money Microsoft gets the better it is for them. They're already making money off of Xbox Live Gold memberships -- and on top of that they're making money from advertisers. They'd be stupid to make Xbox Live Gold free.
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Because MS can make more money by charging.Jandurin
well that makes sense, but I still believe they should make it free seeing it can happen without a subscription.
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#5 h575309
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People are willing to pay 50$ a year for the service. So why wouldnt MS charge?

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#6 Verge_6
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So with that being said, why cant LIVE be free throughout when its clear the advertisers can make up for the "lost?"

Because they'd be losing a profit-making branch.

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#7 tupapi006
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i don´t care paying for xbox live i´m not poor

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well that makes sense, but I still believe they should make it free seeing it can happen without a subscription. Tjeremiah1988
I agree. I also think Ferrari should give me one of their cars at cost.
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#9 treyskillz
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wat lost? people don't pay by the day or weekend, how many slivers accounts actually played during that weekend compared to everyone on live always being free?

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Because if they charge MS can run happier to the bank

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#11 Tjeremiah1988
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i don´t care paying for xbox live i´m not poor

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I hate these type of responses. "Im not poor" "its only 50 a year" "blah blah blah" :|
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[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]well that makes sense, but I still believe they should make it free seeing it can happen without a subscription. Jandurin
I agree. I also think Ferrari should give me one of their cars at cost.

I'd also like an operable steam locomotive from the Cumbres and Toltec. I am entitled, after all. I mean, I'm a consumer for heaven's sake.
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I'm a consumer for heaven's sake.Verge_6
And we all know that the consumer is always (never) right.
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#14 treyskillz
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i don´t care paying for xbox live i´m not poor

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not paying for xbox live doesn't mean ur poor lol

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theirs no adverts on Live in the UK. in any case adverts dont mean free, i still have to pay for newspapers and magazines which are full of them

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#16 dog_dirt
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[QUOTE="tupapi006"]

i don´t care paying for xbox live i´m not poor

Tjeremiah1988
I hate these type of responses. "Im not poor" "its only 50 a year" "blah blah blah" :|

you might hate them, but their true. £35 a year is nothing. i spend more than that on chewing gum.
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#17 Jaysonguy
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I pay money because I want good service

I would glady give Sony and Nintendo some money so their services wouldn't suck

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Because MS can make more money by charging.Tjeremiah1988
well that makes sense, but I still believe they should make it free seeing it can happen without a subscription.

Well your business management career is in trouble. Look, I would rather it be free, but I also love my country and the free society and free market system. I, nor anyone has the right to say what should or shouldn't be charged for by a business. You can choose not to buy there product or service if you don't value it, but dictating how another runs there business is high horse nonsense.
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#19 Tjeremiah1988
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Look, I know a purpose of a business is to make money, I GET THAT! I swear, GS members be repeating the same stuff over and over. People understand MS wants to make money, but we as gamers shouldnt have to fork over to pay for LIVE. I dont even know why I even create this thread knowing im going to get the same response with people comfortable paying for something that should be free. Im done with this. Delete this thread mods..
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#20 Verge_6
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but we as gamers shouldnt have to fork over to pay for LIVE. Tjeremiah1988
Why?
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#21 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] but we as gamers shouldnt have to fork over to pay for LIVE. Verge_6
Why?

Seriously. Why are we entitled to this? I would like everything to be free, especially my rent, electric, subway fare. I need those things, gaming is a luxury. Why should Live be free? Why do we get to decide what someone else's business has a right to charge for? When I ran my business if anyone told me I should be providing something for free I'd have spit at them. It's their service. They have a basic freedom that all of us do.
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#22 dog_dirt
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Look, I know a purpose of a business is to make money, I GET THAT! I swear, GS members be repeating the same stuff over and over. People understand MS wants to make money, but we as gamers shouldnt have to fork over to pay for LIVE. I dont even know why I even create this thread knowing im going to get the same response with people comfortable paying for something that should be free. Im done with this. Delete this thread mods..Tjeremiah1988
when you say "GS members repeating the same stuff over and over", was you refering to 15 threads a day complain about live fee and how it 'SHOULD' be free. and i agree i dont even know why you created this thread either.
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[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="tupapi006"]

i don´t care paying for xbox live i´m not poor

dog_dirt

I hate these type of responses. "Im not poor" "its only 50 a year" "blah blah blah" :|

you might hate them, but their true. £35 a year is nothing. i spend more than that on chewing gum.

In that case you should let muggers steal all your ****... y'know... 'cos ya' can afford it :roll:

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#24 h575309
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Seriously, if anything, I get more rowled up by the cable companies themselves, since im forking over like 30 dollars a month for internet with comcast, and its slow as hell. Their service is horrendous, and XBL is rarely down and not working. $5 a month for a reliable and quality service is fine in my book.

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#25 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="dog_dirt"][QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] I hate these type of responses. "Im not poor" "its only 50 a year" "blah blah blah" :|Leejjohno

you might hate them, but their true. £35 a year is nothing. i spend more than that on chewing gum.

In that case you should let muggers steal all your ****... y'know... 'cos ya' can afford it :roll:

Comparing a willing purchase to a mugging is arguably the worst comparison ever made in the history of man
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Seriously, if anything, I get more rowled up by the cable companies themselves, since im forking over like 30 dollars a month for internet with comcast, and its slow as hell. Their service is horrendous, and XBL is rarely down and not working. $5 a month for a reliable and quality service is fine in my book.

h575309
hah, i'm paying 20 a month and it's super fast and i found out yesterday that i get over 200 channels that i didn't know about. i thought i didn't get any cable at all :o i still won't watch it. but i find it funny
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[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

[QUOTE="dog_dirt"] you might hate them, but their true. £35 a year is nothing. i spend more than that on chewing gum. Verge_6

In that case you should let muggers steal all your ****... y'know... 'cos ya' can afford it :roll:

Comparing a willing purchase to a mugging is arguably the worst comparison ever made in the history of man

all that's left is godwin's law
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#28 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="h575309"]

Seriously, if anything, I get more rowled up by the cable companies themselves, since im forking over like 30 dollars a month for internet with comcast, and its slow as hell. Their service is horrendous, and XBL is rarely down and not working. $5 a month for a reliable and quality service is fine in my book.

Jandurin
hah, i'm paying 20 a month and it's super fast and i found out yesterday that i get over 200 channels that i didn't know about. i thought i didn't get any cable at all :o i still won't watch it. but i find it funny

I'm paying 35$ just so I can get the Military Channel and History International (Where they put all the actual history shows after the History Channel decided it wanted to run only those 'American Original Series' BS like Ice Road Truckers).
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If anything they should half the yearly cost to $30. I don't mind paying but now that there are ad's I think M$ should give the players something in return.

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#30 dog_dirt
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If anything they should half the yearly cost to $30. I don't mind paying but now that there are ad's I think M$ should give the players something in return.

Tezcatlipoca666
so what ads do you get in the US. cos theirs none in the UK
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[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

If anything they should half the yearly cost to $30. I don't mind paying but now that there are ad's I think M$ should give the players something in return.

dog_dirt
so what ads do you get in the US. cos theirs none in the UK

game ads. not like movies, just like pictures as far as i can remember
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#32 dog_dirt
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[QUOTE="dog_dirt"][QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

If anything they should half the yearly cost to $30. I don't mind paying but now that there are ad's I think M$ should give the players something in return.

Jandurin
so what ads do you get in the US. cos theirs none in the UK

game ads. not like movies, just like pictures as far as i can remember

so their not advertising bacon and shoes then
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[QUOTE="dog_dirt"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="dog_dirt"] so what ads do you get in the US. cos theirs none in the UK

game ads. not like movies, just like pictures as far as i can remember

so their not advertising bacon and shoes then

aha i wish they would advertise bacon :P nah, it's just whatever popular 360 game is coming out that gets ad space
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="dog_dirt"] so what ads do you get in the US. cos theirs none in the UKdog_dirt
game ads. not like movies, just like pictures as far as i can remember

so their not advertising bacon and shoes then

Ugh, one of the main theatres in town starting airing those goddamned non-movie ads that show before the trailers. I swear, commercials are bad enough, but their annoyances are amplified ten times over when you see them in a theatre. :|

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They need Live to cover the costs from RRoD. People pay for it, so they will keep charging. As soon as 360 owners stop paying for it, and complain about the cost, then MS will be forced to lower the price or eliminate it completely.

I would never pay to play ANY game online, but that is just me.

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I would never pay to play ANY game online, but that is just me.

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#37 8Tango
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Hell, it makes them money. Them making money eventually makes it's way back to us albeit subtle ways.

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Because MS is a crap company that milks their consumer base.
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[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

I would never pay to play ANY game online, but that is just me.

Jandurin

never say never. You have no idea.

Haha, trust me, as soon as Sony starts charging for online , I am done. I dont care if SOCOM 4 comes out, I wont pay for it. If PC is still free I will keep gaming there though.

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i dont pay for live either i have psn and it works perfectly for me! but i tried paying for live one month when they had a deal where it was only 1 dollar but thewy also put me on automatic renewal without my permission i had to call and cancel because i thought it was wrong of them to put me on automatic renewal but yeah thats pretty close to a mugging i would say:o lol! ill get me a few prepaid cards for odst though in a few weeks

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#41 def_mode
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i don´t care paying for xbox live i´m not poor

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You just dont get it do you? Its not how its cheap, I myself can afford it but the fact that we're basically getting charged for something should be offered free. No matter the cost, point is you are getting charged while other competitors offers it for free.
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i make more money in a few hours than the entire year of the xboxlive fee but psn is better because its free

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lol, i'd take pop-ups that doesn't go away unless you un-plug and plug your controller again over a sum of 50 bucks. really.

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the reason i feel ripped of on paying for live is they charge for a year a month or whatever even if you dont use it they should have a timer on it that lets you spend hours that you pay for. like $50 for 8,000 hours or something thats almost a whole year of actual play time:?

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Because MS is a crap company that milks their consumer base.RedruM_I
Get the correct meaning for 'milking' down, please. :)
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[QUOTE="def_mode"] should be offered free

Why?
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Because from a business standpoint, that doesn't make sense to make XBL free.
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#48 def_mode
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[QUOTE="def_mode"] should be offered free Verge_6
Why?

Why online play should be offered free? You serious with this question?

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[QUOTE="def_mode"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="def_mode"] should be offered free

Why?

Why online play should be offered free? You serious you are asking me this question?

Yeah. Is it 'cause you're entitled as a consumer or something? We have some right to dictate how a company should charge, if at all, for their products? Sounds awfully socialist to me...
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="def_mode"][QUOTE="Verge_6"] Why?

Why online play should be offered free? You serious you are asking me this question?

Yeah. Is it 'cause you're entitled as a consumer or something? We have some right to dictate how a company should charge, if at all, for their products? Sounds awfully socialist to me...

How about this: you shouldn't pay for XBox Live because there are better services offered for free and there's nothing about the Gold subscription that actually costs Microsoft money. Meaning it's essentially pure profit. P2P gaming costs you money, not them. To add a subscription fee to it is absurd. There's no reason to be gaming on a P2P connection and there's no reason to be paying for it.