[QUOTE="cramoisi"]Wow, gears 2 lags so much, PSN has no lag because of the dedicated servers, xbox live has no dedicated servers and it kinda suck because the single player mission is great. Played it a lot at my cousin's home and his internet is fast as hell, so it's not the connection, it's the core of xbox live that is broken with no dedicated servers.imelitenow

hold your horses there, i get disconnected from R2 alot.

yea well, you can't really criticize a free service

after all, it's FREE

[QUOTE="imelitenow"]

[QUOTE="cramoisi"]Wow, gears 2 lags so much, PSN has no lag because of the dedicated servers, xbox live has no dedicated servers and it kinda suck because the single player mission is great. Played it a lot at my cousin's home and his internet is fast as hell, so it's not the connection, it's the core of xbox live that is broken with no dedicated servers.C_BozkurT_C

hold your horses there, i get disconnected from R2 alot.

yea well, you can't really criticize a free service

after all, it's FREE

Actually, you just laugh at the people playing the free watered down service, trying to claim its better then the paid service...

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[QUOTE="cramoisi"]Wow, gears 2 lags so much, PSN has no lag because of the dedicated servers, xbox live has no dedicated servers and it kinda suck because the single player mission is great. Played it a lot at my cousin's home and his internet is fast as hell, so it's not the connection, it's the core of xbox live that is broken with no dedicated servers.C_BozkurT_C

hold your horses there, i get disconnected from R2 alot.

yea well, you can't really criticize a free service

after all, it's FREE

What is there a law against that or something? Of course you can criticize something thats free !

You ever notice that every PSN vs XBL debate ends up with the cows making false claims that PSN is better because of 0 lag, supposed universal dedicated servers for every game and free, watered down service? Socom still has worse issues then GeOW2 has , and it still doesn't expolain how 3 recent releases have had problems with PSN, 2 of them exclusive and why cows seem to attack the multiplat dev, yet give the exclusive devs a free pass...AlphaGamer469

i take it that you dont own Socom: Confrontation because its server issues have been fixed for quite some time.. yet GeoW2's online problems linger on:

" The matchmaking in Gears of War 2 has come in for a tongue-lashing, with the time it takes to find a match the biggest problem. Players have been reporting anything from 10 minutes to an hour waiting for their party to connect to a game, with some also reporting random disconnects."

http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=6919

and judging form the comments in this thread, massive lag is also a major issue.. the difference?.. between Socom: C and GeoW2, one of these two games got docked a huge amount of points from it's review score here on Gamespot for these issues.. the other game didnt even have these issues mentioned in the "The Bad" section of the review and obviously didnt lose any points from its review score for these issues that are still relevant even as we speak.. guess which is which.. :|

[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"] You ever notice that every PSN vs XBL debate ends up with the cows making false claims that PSN is better because of 0 lag, supposed universal dedicated servers for every game and free, watered down service? Socom still has worse issues then GeOW2 has , and it still doesn't expolain how 3 recent releases have had problems with PSN, 2 of them exclusive and why cows seem to attack the multiplat dev, yet give the exclusive devs a free pass...Antwan3K

i take it that you dont own Socom: Confrontation because its server issues have been fixed for quite some time.. yet GeoW2's online problems linger on:

" The matchmaking in Gears of War 2 has come in for a tongue-lashing, with the time it takes to find a match the biggest problem. Players have been reporting anything from 10 minutes to an hour waiting for their party to connect to a game, with some also reporting random disconnects."

http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=6919

and judging form the comments in this thread, massive lag is also a major issue.. the difference?.. between Socom: C and GeoW2, one of these two games got docked a huge amount of points from it's review score here on Gamespot for these issues.. the other game didnt even have these issues mentioned in the "The Bad" section of the review and obviously didnt lose any points from its review score for these issues that are still relevant even as we speak.. guess which is which.. :|

Yeah lets see Socom was patched a week after released because if CRIPLING issues both in single player and online, issues that have only been HALF fixed, Geow2 suffers from issues that only some people experience I've yet to have a laggy game online unless i know the host had like 300kb download which he did cause i know him in real life and multiplayer public match making has never taken more then 5 minutes for me.

Socoms issues were game crippling and obvious, Geow2s aren't game crippling and evident.

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[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"] You ever notice that every PSN vs XBL debate ends up with the cows making false claims that PSN is better because of 0 lag, supposed universal dedicated servers for every game and free, watered down service? Socom still has worse issues then GeOW2 has , and it still doesn't expolain how 3 recent releases have had problems with PSN, 2 of them exclusive and why cows seem to attack the multiplat dev, yet give the exclusive devs a free pass...WilliamRLBaker

i take it that you dont own Socom: Confrontation because its server issues have been fixed for quite some time.. yet GeoW2's online problems linger on:

" The matchmaking in Gears of War 2 has come in for a tongue-lashing, with the time it takes to find a match the biggest problem. Players have been reporting anything from 10 minutes to an hour waiting for their party to connect to a game, with some also reporting random disconnects."

http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=6919

and judging form the comments in this thread, massive lag is also a major issue.. the difference?.. between Socom: C and GeoW2, one of these two games got docked a huge amount of points from it's review score here on Gamespot for these issues.. the other game didnt even have these issues mentioned in the "The Bad" section of the review and obviously didnt lose any points from its review score for these issues that are still relevant even as we speak.. guess which is which.. :|

Yeah lets see Socom was patched a week after released because if CRIPLING issues both in single player and online, issues that have only been HALF fixed, Geow2 suffers from issues that only some people experience I've yet to have a laggy game online unless i know the host had like 300kb download which he did cause i know him in real life and multiplayer public match making has never taken more then 5 minutes for me.

Socoms issues were game crippling and obvious, Geow2s aren't game crippling and evident.

so you have played socom? How is the single player?

Yes I know you got me it has no single player its a multiplayer only game, Its 7 am where i woke up and im geting over the flu so get off me.
Does not change the fact the game was released with obvious and game crippling server issues of which have only been half fixed its more then easy to do research online about how people are still having problems with socoms online multiplayer which is funny since the game is MULTIPLAYER ONLINE only you would think a game dedicated specifically to online play wouldn't have such obvious game crippling flaws that yet again are only passably fixed by the patch.WilliamRLBaker

how did the 1.20 patch "half fix" the issues?.. for one thing, the difference in performance of the game is like night and day since the patch.. you wouldnt know that since you're so uninformed that you actually thought that Socom: Confrontation has "single player".. :roll:.. secondly, for the sake of argument, according to your logic that GeoW problems arent significant since only "some people" are experiencing them, then that logic would also apply to Socom since virtually everyone is enjoying the recent fixes..

and kinda funny that you think Geow2's online problems only apply to "some people", yet thread after thread on this forum alone has many people outraged at the perfomance.. and this is not to mention all the other forums and websites (to include OXM) that have documented GeoW2 online flaws...

please wake up..

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]Yes I know you got me it has no single player its a multiplayer only game, Its 7 am where i woke up and im geting over the flu so get off me.
Does not change the fact the game was released with obvious and game crippling server issues of which have only been half fixed its more then easy to do research online about how people are still having problems with socoms online multiplayer which is funny since the game is MULTIPLAYER ONLINE only you would think a game dedicated specifically to online play wouldn't have such obvious game crippling flaws that yet again are only passably fixed by the patch.Antwan3K

how did the 1.20 patch "half fix" the issues?.. for one thing, the difference in performance of the game is like night and day since the patch.. you wouldnt know that since you're so uninformed that you actually thought that Socom: Confrontation has "single player".. :roll:.. secondly, for the sake of argument, according to your logic that GeoW problems arent significant since only "some people" are experiencing them, then that logic would also apply to Socom since virtually everyone is enjoying the recent fixes..

and kinda funny that you think Geow2's online problems only apply to "some people", yet thread after thread on this forum alone has many people outraged at the perfomance.. and this is not to mention all the other forums and websites (to include OXM) that have documented GeoW2 online flaws...

please wake up..

Hmm...I guess I must be an exception then since I've never encountered the problems OXM mentioned.

Oh and just for the record, IGN gave SOCOM a 4.5, citing crippling network issues that persisted even after the patch. I guess since we can assume Gears of War 2's issues affect more than just "some people" then we can assume that those players who don't experience any of SOCOM's problems are rare exceptions as well?

[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="Kratos-Sackboy"]Wth? Resistance 1/2 and Warhawk have dedicated serversSonyMarksman70

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"][QUOTE="Kratos-Sackboy"]

Wth? Resistance 1/2 and Warhawk have dedicated servers

Pro_wrestler

I call that over zealous fanboy rebuttal. Symptoms: lacking reading comprehension, illiteracy and sometimes dyslexia.

lmao those symptoms

Gears 2 has not been laggy for me really. Gears 2's matchmaking system is still as terrible as the first Gears was, but as far as the actual game goes, I rarely lag.

And no, it would not be mostly Live, it would be mostly the netcode in the game, as games like CoD4 and Halo 3 have almost zero lag for me, and I have played thousands of games of both over Live.

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"][QUOTE="Kratos-Sackboy"]

 

 

Wth? Resistance 1/2 and Warhawk have dedicated servers

Pro_wrestler

I call that over zealous fanboy rebuttal. Symptoms: lacking reading comprehension, illiteracy and sometimes dyslexia. 

actually, he said all ps3 games DON'T have dedicated servers. I'm pretty sure he meant that not all ps3 games have dedicated servers, but i see why he made the mistake.

[QUOTE="cramoisi"]Wow, gears 2 lags so much, PSN has no lag because of the dedicated servers, xbox live has no dedicated servers and it kinda suck because the single player mission is great. Played it a lot at my cousin's home and his internet is fast as hell, so it's not the connection, it's the core of xbox live that is broken with no dedicated servers.MortalDecay

My friend (who lives in Georgia), and I (I live in Arizona) play multiplayer in Gears 2, and many other games, quite a bit, and we never experience lag. If I were you, I would look into getting a better connection.

Just because you have some lag, doesn't always mean it's someone else's fault.

Also, from what I have heard, not all PS3 games use dedicated servers.

Yes you post count is at 1337 right now - don't ever post again 

SOCOM says hi.

 

RobNBankz

Yes I know you got me it has no single player its a multiplayer only game, Its 7 am where i woke up and im geting over the flu so get off me.
Does not change the fact the game was released with obvious and game crippling server issues of which have only been half fixed its more then easy to do research online about how people are still having problems with socoms online multiplayer which is funny since the game is MULTIPLAYER ONLINE only you would think a game dedicated specifically to online play wouldn't have such obvious game crippling flaws that yet again are only passably fixed by the patch.WilliamRLBaker

how did the 1.20 patch "half fix" the issues?.. for one thing, the difference in performance of the game is like night and day since the patch.. you wouldnt know that since you're so uninformed that you actually thought that Socom: Confrontation has "single player".. :roll:.. secondly, for the sake of argument, according to your logic that GeoW problems arent significant since only "some people" are experiencing them, then that logic would also apply to Socom since virtually everyone is enjoying the recent fixes..

and kinda funny that you think Geow2's online problems only apply to "some people", yet thread after thread on this forum alone has many people outraged at the perfomance.. and this is not to mention all the other forums and websites (to include OXM) that have documented GeoW2 online flaws...

please wake up..

Hmm...I guess I must be an exception then since I've never encountered the problems OXM mentioned.

Oh and just for the record, IGN gave SOCOM a 4.5, citing crippling network issues that persisted even after the patch. I guess since we can assume Gears of War 2's issues affect more than just "some people" then we can assume that those players who don't experience any of SOCOM's problems are rare exceptions as well?