Xbox Live New Reward System

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

What the hell? You guys are complaining about getting free points? This is why companies don't care about us anymore. To many of the people in the "core gaming community" are a bunch of ungrateful jerks who can never be satisfied.

Messiahbolical-

And Sony does this exact same thing with PSN+. You pay $50 a year to get these "great deals" on DLC, and other downloadables.

There's nothing wrong with it. That's what smart companies do. Valve does it with Steam too. They mix all these great "impulse" buy games in with the big name games, and people go crazy because of this "incentive" they have to buy things because they're on sale. Sony and MS give the illusion that you're getting a good deal because you get a "discount" by paying $50 a year, and you get "free" MS points by paying for XBL, and doing surveys.

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"][QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

What the hell? You guys are complaining about getting free points? This is why companies don't care about us anymore. To many of the people in the "core gaming community" are a bunch of ungrateful jerks who can never be satisfied.

Raymundo_Manuel

And Sony does this exact same thing with PSN+. You pay $50 a year to get these "great deals" on DLC, and other downloadables.

There's nothing wrong with it. That's what smart companies do. Valve does it with Steam too. They mix all these great "impulse" buy games in with the big name games, and people go crazy because of this "incentive" they have to buy things because they're on sale. Sony and MS give the illusion that you're getting a good deal because you get a "discount" by paying $50 a year, and you get "free" MS points by paying for XBL, and doing surveys.

Correct, but you left out the fact that PSN+ is completely optional while XBL is mandatory for people who just want to play their games online. They're 2 completely different things. PSN+ is basically Sony's version of the Entertainment Book. I don't like it when people compare XBL to PSN+ because honestly they're not comparable. They COULD be if M$ allowed online play to Silver Account members though...

Messiahbolical-

Hey, I also threw in Steam too.

They are compareable though because, by definition, a comparison is noting the similarities and differences of multiple things.

Like, an apple and orange are both different tasting, and different color, but they're both fruit, they both grow from trees, and they both look good in a fruit bowl hat :P

Steam, PSN+, and XBL Gold are different in price, requirement (I guess is the right word), and different services entirely, but they all use very very similar schemes to get members to purchase things.

Hey, I also threw in Steam too.

They are compareable though because, by definition, a comparison is noting the similarities and differences of multiple things.

Like, an apple and orange are both different tasting, and different color, but they're both fruit, they both grow from trees, and they both look good in a fruit bowl hat :P

Steam, PSN+, and XBL Gold are different in price, requirement (I guess is the right word), and different services entirely, but they all use very very similar schemes to get members to purchase things.

Raymundo_Manuel

Mind = blown.

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]

Correct, but you left out the fact that PSN+ is completely optional while XBL is mandatory for people who just want to play their games online. They're 2 completely different things. PSN+ is basically Sony's version of the Entertainment Book. I don't like it when people compare XBL to PSN+ because honestly they're not comparable. They COULD be if M$ allowed online play to Silver Account members though...

Raymundo_Manuel

Hey, I also threw in Steam too.

They are compareable though because, by definition, a comparison is noting the similarities and differences of multiple things.

Like, an apple and orange are both different tasting, and different color, but they're both fruit, they both grow from trees, and they both look good in a fruit bowl hat :P

Steam, PSN+, and XBL Gold are different in price, requirement (I guess is the right word), and different services entirely, but they all use very very similar schemes to get members to purchase things.

hmmm UK only? that does nothing for me...

it's pretty lame but better than nothing.

i wish i could get credit for past years.

i think they found a goldmine in the whole spend "x" get "x" back promotions and that's why they are doing this, (and to stop people from buying cheaper cards online) i just got my 800 points back for the promotion they had in october.

that was good timing since i was going to buy RDR undead anyway.

Riverwolf007

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]Today on Plus I got around 4-5 free moving dynamic themes, I got a PS1 game,a full PSN puzzle game called Cuboid, 2 PS minis and a bunch of discounts such as the new Dead Nation. There will also be other goods this December for PS Plus such as new exclusive avatars. A new PS Plus area was also announced for PS Home users. I like PS Plus. I have already receive more than I've spent and the subscription isn't even half way yet.

fusionhunter

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

it's pretty lame but better than nothing.

i wish i could get credit for past years.

i think they found a goldmine in the whole spend "x" get "x" back promotions and that's why they are doing this, (and to stop people from buying cheaper cards online) i just got my 800 points back for the promotion they had in october.

that was good timing since i was going to buy RDR undead anyway.

YoshiYogurt

[QUOTE="fusionhunter"]

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"] and you will use about 2% of those things. PS+ would be good if it actually offered games that weren't common denominator games appeal to the widest audience games when I had it it had a few games that I would actually use...I don't care for themes I don't even change my theme. [QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

it's pretty lame but better than nothing.

i wish i could get credit for past years.

i think they found a goldmine in the whole spend "x" get "x" back promotions and that's why they are doing this, (and to stop people from buying cheaper cards online) i just got my 800 points back for the promotion they had in october.

that was good timing since i was going to buy RDR undead anyway.

WilliamRLBaker

Wow, that's huge wait! Why couldn't they give it to me the day i got the deal? It's all digital.

as long as it's not hit and miss like Bing rewards is.

then it's definitely better than nothing.

HavocV3

[QUOTE="GFugue"]

Just from the yearly gold renewal and taking the survey every month, you'll net 440 MSP per year. If you combine that with the Bing MSP reward system, you can get 2-3k MSP. Which adds up to 3-4 Arcade games (more, if you buy games on Deals of the Week) or 3-4 DLC packs for your games.

That, and if it's for free, I couldn't care less whether it's pointless or not.

fusionhunter

Isn't that slightly irrelevant to the XBL reward system, or are we trying to include fanboyism in this?

[QUOTE="fusionhunter"]

[QUOTE="GFugue"]

Just from the yearly gold renewal and taking the survey every month, you'll net 440 MSP per year. If you combine that with the Bing MSP reward system, you can get 2-3k MSP. Which adds up to 3-4 Arcade games (more, if you buy games on Deals of the Week) or 3-4 DLC packs for your games.

That, and if it's for free, I couldn't care less whether it's pointless or not.

TacticalDesire

Isn't that slightly irrelevant to the XBL reward system, or are we trying to include fanboyism in this?

Yeah...I found out more about it after they sent me an invite *oddly enough 2 days after it was introduce...*

Suffice to say I am very unhappy with this the program seems to be just a new user grab by Microsoft instead of a method to actually rewards its users it was in beta and testing for 8 months at least and this is what we get out of the gate? Let alone the fact that nearly every thing is based monetary so you have to spend money out to get what seems 1-5% return it doesn't benefit long time and loyal members in the least.

I've been on Xbox Live since 2002, I have my account paid up till 2013...and nothing about the rewards program is retroactive all the money I've spent I won't be rewarded for in the least..Netflix? Used it since it first came up on marketplace...Oh sorry new netflix sign ups only...WHAT?!!! :roll: the program so far gives me no benefits for all the money I've spent...

I've gotta admit it I'm seriously debating just taking the 150 dollar hit and taking my 3 360's selling em, selling my 90 or so 360 games and just turning the other way Microsoft has been building a large **** pile for years and I have steered around it so many times over the years but I think this rewards program is the last piece of **** on the pile of **** with No 1st party to speak of, and the Motion sensing gimmick they seem to be solely concentrating on now...I think I'm gonna just turn around and go the other way I have increasingly felt like a 2nd hand citizen even with all my years of loyalty to Xbox and Xbox live...

Yeah...I found out more about it after they sent me an invite *oddly enough 2 days after it was introduce...*

Suffice to say I am very unhappy with this the program seems to be just a new user grab by Microsoft instead of a method to actually rewards its users it was in beta and testing for 8 months at least and this is what we get out of the gate? Let alone the fact that nearly every thing is based monetary so you have to spend money out to get what seems 1-5% return it doesn't benefit long time and loyal members in the least.

I've been on Xbox Live since 2002, I have my account paid up till 2013...and nothing about the rewards program is retroactive all the money I've spent I won't be rewarded for in the least..Netflix? Used it since it first came up on marketplace...Oh sorry new netflix sign ups only...WHAT?!!! :roll: the program so far gives me no benefits for all the money I've spent...

I've gotta admit it I'm seriously debating just taking the 150 dollar hit and taking my 3 360's selling em, selling my 90 or so 360 games and just turning the other way Microsoft has been building a large **** pile for years and I have steered around it so many times over the years but I think this rewards program is the last piece of **** on the pile of **** with No 1st party to speak of, and the Motion sensing gimmick they seem to be solely concentrating on now...I think I'm gonna just turn around and go the other way I have increasingly felt like a 2nd hand citizen even with all my years of loyalty to Xbox and Xbox live...

WilliamRLBaker

theres still a rewards system that rewards you for being a long term member, which is why theres a number saying how long you are a member. Dpn't know why MS hasnt shown us that one

Trying to get ps3 beat in a fight. Well its sounds crappy, as is ps3's reward system.Handsome_Boy_8D

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Yeah...I found out more about it after they sent me an invite *oddly enough 2 days after it was introduce...*

Suffice to say I am very unhappy with this the program seems to be just a new user grab by Microsoft instead of a method to actually rewards its users it was in beta and testing for 8 months at least and this is what we get out of the gate? Let alone the fact that nearly every thing is based monetary so you have to spend money out to get what seems 1-5% return it doesn't benefit long time and loyal members in the least.

I've been on Xbox Live since 2002, I have my account paid up till 2013...and nothing about the rewards program is retroactive all the money I've spent I won't be rewarded for in the least..Netflix? Used it since it first came up on marketplace...Oh sorry new netflix sign ups only...WHAT?!!! :roll: the program so far gives me no benefits for all the money I've spent...

I've gotta admit it I'm seriously debating just taking the 150 dollar hit and taking my 3 360's selling em, selling my 90 or so 360 games and just turning the other way Microsoft has been building a large **** pile for years and I have steered around it so many times over the years but I think this rewards program is the last piece of **** on the pile of **** with No 1st party to speak of, and the Motion sensing gimmick they seem to be solely concentrating on now...I think I'm gonna just turn around and go the other way I have increasingly felt like a 2nd hand citizen even with all my years of loyalty to Xbox and Xbox live...

gamer-adam1

theres still a rewards system that rewards you for being a long term member, which is why theres a number saying how long you are a member. Dpn't know why MS hasnt shown us that one

Give me a reward scheme for Gamerscore. That will get people buying more games and spending more time on your system.

More people buying games = More developers using Xbox = Microsoft earning cash.

I thinksomething around25 Microsoft points for 1000G's is about right.

The average Xbox user will only hit around 25000G in their time, unless they acheivment hunt.