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I have heard many times that xbox live is superior to PSN, I, for starters, dont doubt this statement for I love Xbox live. But if i ever said this for myself i would be one hell of a hipocryte for i havent had the time to "experiment" with PSN, so i have no comment on its quality...
So what im asking for is for opinions from oondividuals who have had some time with each consoles online service.
Please abstain from fanboyism(?) I just want to hear some main diferences.
OK,
Biggest differences
1. Party Chat and cross game Chat Live has it PSN doen not.
2. LIVE you pay for PSN you do not
Now I was a member of LIVE day 1 until about a year ago I'll not explain as to try and avoid my bias. Other than the chat features the only thing live has going for it is the fact that Microsoft provides all code for invites, friends list and everything where it's up to the devs when it comes to PSN so you don't get the uniform friend invite and all that across all PS3 games. Having said that you will find the majority of games this past year have done a really nice job implementing these features on the PS3. I DO NOT have lag issues people tend to exagerate about PSN, I use a wired network due to wireless being half duplex (yet another topic). I have a mic and use it, Usually when I play SOCOM or Killzone 2 the majority of people have mic's ( like 7 out of 10). I have played in smooth 64 player match's on Resistance 2 and looking forward to seeing how 256 player match's turn out for MAG. What throws alot of people off is they are used to their live buddies and PSN doesn't havem for the most part. Kinda like going to a new school which sucks at first until you get to know some people. I personally won't be signing back up with live any time soon and if Sony keeps improving PSN like they have most likely never.
ok maybe 360 is superior with its live vs psn and all this awesome qualities...but for me only 1 quality matters...lag...
dedicated servers on ps3= no lag > 360 live without dedicated servers = lag = fail..no matter how many things live can do...
no lag > over all qualities of live and trophies/achievments/ in game music etc..
because if there is lag in the game, u wont play the game thus u wont listen to ingame music and cross chat and do so much stuff..
be fair now, PSN does have lag. Ive played K2, Warhawk, and Resistance online, and all had some form of lag, maybe not as much as Live, but any online game will have lag, even PC.ok maybe 360 is superior with its live vs psn and all this awesome qualities...but for me only 1 quality matters...lag...
dedicated servers on ps3= no lag > 360 live without dedicated servers = lag = fail..no matter how many things live can do...
no lag > over all qualities of live and trophies/achievments/ in game music etc..
because if there is lag in the game, u wont play the game thus u wont listen to ingame music and cross chat and do so much stuff..
planbfreak4eva
[QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"]be fair now, PSN does have lag. Ive played K2, Warhawk, and Resistance online, and all had some form of lag, maybe not as much as Live, but any online game will have lag, even PC.ok maybe 360 is superior with its live vs psn and all this awesome qualities...but for me only 1 quality matters...lag...
dedicated servers on ps3= no lag > 360 live without dedicated servers = lag = fail..no matter how many things live can do...
no lag > over all qualities of live and trophies/achievments/ in game music etc..
because if there is lag in the game, u wont play the game thus u wont listen to ingame music and cross chat and do so much stuff..
navyguy21
Yeah that is a myth that PSN doesn't have lag. It does and a few times I have played on a server that had some lag.
Straight from my blog "Ive seen this asked over and over on this site, so since i own both, i decided to list a few. But to fully understand, you have to experience it for yourself. So take this list, find a friend with a 360, and see for yourself.1- cross game chat -this is more than it sounds. not only can you chat accross different games, but you can seamlessly create a party while in game, and switch from friends only chat, to chatting with people online, all without leaving the game
2- Custom soundtracks- this is the most misunderstood by fanboys. This feature is built into every game, and is built on the LIVE software that MS created. Meaning when i play a custom soundtrack on 360 (whether its from the hard drive, pc, or MP3 player) the game music, and ONLY the game music, stops playing. This doesnt happen with PS3. On 360, it only plays the sound effects and ambient sounds in the game, allowing me to hear my song. PS3 just plays the music (only dev supported) over my game sound.
Microsoft holds a patent on this and the work around is allowing the devs to impliment.
3-In game access to everything- this is another misunderstood feature. With 360, if im playing a game, and i want to.....say play netflix. i dont have to go to the dashboard first, all i do is press the guide button, and click netflix. It stops my game and immediately plays. Or if im playing........say mass effect, and i wanna play Jade Empire that i downloaded. Same thing, just press the guide, and scroll to downloaded games. Its is nowhere NEAR as easy on PS3
Hmmm yes it is, before certain updates you are correct but the PS3 has the same function.
4- Trueskill Ranking system- I cant count how many times i was playing warhawk when i first got it, and got beat like a runaway slave until i got the hang of it. Imagine going to the gym to play basketball, and everyday you had to play against Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and Shaq!! Trueskill tracks your accomplishments ingame, and matches you with people on your level, making sure every experience is fair, and fun.
5 Intergration- Kinda speaks for itself. Basically my friends list follows me through every game. im even notified if a friend is playing the same game as me, and allows me to join the right then, no lobbies, menus, or anything. I can also check my achievements, friends achievements, and the profiles of the last 40 people ive played online at anytime, whether im watching a movie, netflix, playing a game, or whatever.
OK, on PS3 you are notified when friends come online, I too can go to my friends list in game and see what they are playing, I too can compare trophies and view profiles of friends and recently met players. I'll admit it depends on the game weather or not I can join my friends unlike the 360.
6-Cross game invites- no matter what im doing, i can invite a player to my game with the press of a button. No need to type a message like on PS3. I can also record voice messages to send to anyone ingame.
Again this is not the case with all PS3 games, PS3 cannot voice message in game though just text.
7-Server based system- the myth going on is that LIVE doesnt have dedicated servers. While this is mostly true, what people fail to realize is that EVERYTHING Live related IS kept on servers, servers that MS maintains. My friends lists, achievements (even my achievement progress), games played, and even my LOCATION or MODE in the game is tracked and displayed to my friends. Meaning i can check my friends profile (ingame if i choose) and see what area hes cruising in GTA iv, or the score in madden or NFL nk9, or the mode, map, and score in Halo 3. There are many more, but like i said, go experience it for yourself.
As the info is not as through as the 360 you can see which game your friends are playing and as with SOCOM it will tell you the server and room they are in all with the touch of a button, Sony keeps friends and trophy info on a server so don't know what your trying to say here.
"navyguy21
both are even as whole packages.
PSN = dedicated servers + free
Live = more features + pay
overall they are even. if you take the price out of question, then live has an advantage if you use the features.
[QUOTE="navyguy21"]
Microsoft holds a patent on this and the work around is allowing the devs to impliment.
Hmmm yes it is, before certain updates you are correct but the PS3 has the same function.
OK, on PS3 you are notified when friends come online, I too can go to my friends list in game and see what they are playing, I too can compare trophies and view profiles of friends and recently met players. I'll admit it depends on the game weather or not I can join my friends unlike the 360.
Again this is not the case with all PS3 games, PS3 cannot voice message in game though just text.
As the info is not as through as the 360 you can see which game your friends are playing and as with SOCOM it will tell you the server and room they are in all with the touch of a button, Sony keeps friends and trophy info on a server so don't know what your trying to say here.
"360hammer
Doesnt matter the REASON live has these, its just that it does. and dont lie to yourself, i own a PS3, and PSN DOES NOT have the same level of in game access to everything that 360 does and you know it. Dude, like i said in my post earlier, there is no way a person who HAS NOT experienced LIVE will understand what i mean, so just go use it for a bit, and compare it to PS3, or if you DO own a 360, stop lying to yourself. I have played on both to know the truth
[QUOTE="360hammer"]
[QUOTE="navyguy21"]
Microsoft holds a patent on this and the work around is allowing the devs to impliment.
Hmmm yes it is, before certain updates you are correct but the PS3 has the same function.
OK, on PS3 you are notified when friends come online, I too can go to my friends list in game and see what they are playing, I too can compare trophies and view profiles of friends and recently met players. I'll admit it depends on the game weather or not I can join my friends unlike the 360.
Again this is not the case with all PS3 games, PS3 cannot voice message in game though just text.
As the info is not as through as the 360 you can see which game your friends are playing and as with SOCOM it will tell you the server and room they are in all with the touch of a button, Sony keeps friends and trophy info on a server so don't know what your trying to say here.
"navyguy21
Doesnt matter the REASON live has these, its just that it does. and dont lie to yourself, i own a PS3, and PSN DOES NOT have the same level of in game access to everything that 360 does and you know it. Dude, like i said in my post earlier, there is no way a person who HAS NOT experienced LIVE will understand what i mean, so just go use it for a bit, and compare it to PS3, or if you DO own a 360, stop lying to yourself. I have played on both to know the truth
LOL ok, so even though I admitted where the 360 excells in areas your going to tell me the things I listed are not true? I'm fully aware of the bonuses of LIVE and it's dash integration. I think you are the one lying to yourself if you think what I posted is untrue.
LOL ok, so even though I admitted where the 360 excells in areas your going to tell me the things I listed are not true? I'm fully aware of the bonuses of LIVE and it's dash integration. I think you are the one lying to yourself if you think what I posted is untrue.
360hammer
Whatever dude, im not in the mood for this crap:|
[QUOTE="360hammer"]
LOL ok, so even though I admitted where the 360 excells in areas your going to tell me the things I listed are not true? I'm fully aware of the bonuses of LIVE and it's dash integration. I think you are the one lying to yourself if you think what I posted is untrue.
navyguy21
Whatever dude, im not in the mood for this crap:|
Don't you mean, you're right and I have no come back because those thing are possible?
Xbox Live is better, and it is also $50 a year.
Take your pick.
Well uhmm yeah thanks guys...
yeah well hmmm, theyre mostly the same so meh, microsoft wins this from my perspective but the ps3 IS catching up, i dont know if they will get to the place LIVE is...
And about lag, this issue depends too much on the internet speed people pay for so this shouldnt be listed as the companies fault, but then again i am no expert and will probably be prooved wrong in a matter of seconds...
[QUOTE="navyguy21"]
[QUOTE="360hammer"]
LOL ok, so even though I admitted where the 360 excells in areas your going to tell me the things I listed are not true? I'm fully aware of the bonuses of LIVE and it's dash integration. I think you are the one lying to yourself if you think what I posted is untrue.
360hammer
Whatever dude, im not in the mood for this crap:|
Don't you mean, you're right and I have no come back because those thing are possible?
Gee, navyguy provided a complete and concise list and all you did was say, 'no you're wrong.' and he has to proive why, just on you're hearsay? Sorry, but Navyguy wins the argument until you can be more concise with your end...
Id say that factoring the charges that Live has they are even, b ut leaving money out of it Live is superior for all the reasons that have been stated before me.
Straight from my blog "Ive seen this asked over and over on this site, so since i own both, i decided to list a few. But to fully understand, you have to experience it for yourself. So take this list, find a friend with a 360, and see for yourself. 1- cross game chat -this is more than it sounds. not only can you chat accross different games, but you can seamlessly create a party while in game, and switch from friends only chat, to chatting with people online, all without leaving the game 2- Custom soundtracks- this is the most misunderstood by fanboys. This feature is built into every game, and is built on the LIVE software that MS created. Meaning when i play a custom soundtrack on 360 (whether its from the hard drive, pc, or MP3 player) the game music, and ONLY the game music, stops playing. This doesnt happen with PS3. On 360, it only plays the sound effects and ambient sounds in the game, allowing me to hear my song. PS3 just plays the music (only dev supported) over my game sound. 3-In game access to everything- this is another misunderstood feature. With 360, if im playing a game, and i want to.....say play netflix. i dont have to go to the dashboard first, all i do is press the guide button, and click netflix. It stops my game and immediately plays. Or if im playing........say mass effect, and i wanna play Jade Empire that i downloaded. Same thing, just press the guide, and scroll to downloaded games. Its is nowhere NEAR as easy on PS3 4- Trueskill Ranking system- I cant count how many times i was playing warhawk when i first got it, and got beat like a runaway slave until i got the hang of it. Imagine going to the gym to play basketball, and everyday you had to play against Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and Shaq!! Trueskill tracks your accomplishments ingame, and matches you with people on your level, making sure every experience is fair, and fun. 5 Intergration- Kinda speaks for itself. Basically my friends list follows me through every game. im even notified if a friend is playing the same game as me, and allows me to join the right then, no lobbies, menus, or anything. I can also check my achievements, friends achievements, and the profiles of the last 40 people ive played online at anytime, whether im watching a movie, netflix, playing a game, or whatever. 6-Cross game invites- no matter what im doing, i can invite a player to my game with the press of a button. No need to type a message like on PS3. I can also record voice messages to send to anyone ingame. 7-Server based system- the myth going on is that LIVE doesnt have dedicated servers. While this is mostly true, what people fail to realize is that EVERYTHING Live related IS kept on servers, servers that MS maintains. My friends lists, achievements (even my achievement progress), games played, and even my LOCATION or MODE in the game is tracked and displayed to my friends. Meaning i can check my friends profile (ingame if i choose) and see what area hes cruising in GTA iv, or the score in madden or NFL nk9, or the mode, map, and score in Halo 3. There are many more, but like i said, go experience it for yourself. "navyguy21that was damn good. i couldnt have said it better myself....
[QUOTE="360hammer"]
[QUOTE="navyguy21"]
Whatever dude, im not in the mood for this crap:|
MizFitAwesome
Don't you mean, you're right and I have no come back because those thing are possible?
Gee, navyguy provided a complete and concise list and all you did was say, 'no you're wrong.' and he has to proive why, just on you're hearsay? Sorry, but Navyguy wins the argument until you can be more concise with your end...
Thanks man, thats why i did not, and will not respond to him. It doesnt matter what i say, he is going to spin it his way to make it more appealing to him. Fanboys are like that, ive learned to ignore them :P
Live has a lot more features than PSN.
[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"][QUOTE="360hammer"]
Don't you mean, you're right and I have no come back because those thing are possible?
navyguy21
Gee, navyguy provided a complete and concise list and all you did was say, 'no you're wrong.' and he has to proive why, just on you're hearsay? Sorry, but Navyguy wins the argument until you can be more concise with your end...
Thanks man, thats why i did not, and will not respond to him. It doesnt matter what i say, he is going to spin it his way to make it more appealing to him. Fanboys are like that, ive learned to ignore them :PLMAO I don't think I was spinning anything. You act as though the PS3 cannot do anything in game. I merely pointed out what can be done and even gave props to the 360 where it excelled. He was wrong on certain points which I pointed out. Posting that I can acess friends list in game and other stuff on the PS3 is not spinning anything it's merely pointing out those things are not exclusive to the 360 or LIVE. Again, no one has yet to tell me where I am wrong in the features I've posted for the PS3 so who's the real fanboy here.
[QUOTE="360hammer"]
[QUOTE="navyguy21"]
Whatever dude, im not in the mood for this crap:|
MizFitAwesome
Don't you mean, you're right and I have no come back because those thing are possible?
Gee, navyguy provided a complete and concise list and all you did was say, 'no you're wrong.' and he has to proive why, just on you're hearsay? Sorry, but Navyguy wins the argument until you can be more concise with your end...
Hearsay? Are you telling me that you think the statements I made like being notified when friends come online or the fact I can access friends list in game hearsay? LOLBTW Here's a link to an article talking about the in game music patent with a link to the accual patent
http://www.ripten.com/2008/03/31/microsoft-owns-patent-for-in-game-custom-soundtracks/
How is that? concise enough for you?
Thanks man, thats why i did not, and will not respond to him. It doesnt matter what i say, he is going to spin it his way to make it more appealing to him. Fanboys are like that, ive learned to ignore them :P[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]
Gee, navyguy provided a complete and concise list and all you did was say, 'no you're wrong.' and he has to proive why, just on you're hearsay? Sorry, but Navyguy wins the argument until you can be more concise with your end...
360hammer
LMAO I don't think I was spinning anything. You act as though the PS3 cannot do anything in game. I merely pointed out what can be done and even gave props to the 360 where it excelled. He was wrong on certain points which I pointed out. Posting that I can acess friends list in game and other stuff on the PS3 is not spinning anything it's merely pointing out those things are not exclusive to the 360 or LIVE. Again, no one has yet to tell me where I am wrong in the features I've posted for the PS3 so who's the real fanboy here.
Okay; while Hammer you are kind of correct, yes PSN can do some of these things but they dont do them well. They are cumbersome, it takes time to just sync up to compare trophies with someone. Yes PSN has in game music but its not in every game, and Im full aware of the patent the MS has on it.Both these online services are good but Live gives you more features and makes them more user friendly, yes Live cost a whopping $50 a year but as of right now it is worth it.
These lag free or full of lag myths need to stop. I am on my 360 and PS3 everyday and I have a great connection and guess what they BOTH have lag at times, but 90 percent of the time I dont experience any lag on either service.
Straight from my blog "Ive seen this asked over and over on this site, so since i own both, i decided to list a few. But to fully understand, you have to experience it for yourself. So take this list, find a friend with a 360, and see for yourself. 1- cross game chat -this is more than it sounds. not only can you chat accross different games, but you can seamlessly create a party while in game, and switch from friends only chat, to chatting with people online, all without leaving the game 2- Custom soundtracks- this is the most misunderstood by fanboys. This feature is built into every game, and is built on the LIVE software that MS created. Meaning when i play a custom soundtrack on 360 (whether its from the hard drive, pc, or MP3 player) the game music, and ONLY the game music, stops playing. This doesnt happen with PS3. On 360, it only plays the sound effects and ambient sounds in the game, allowing me to hear my song. PS3 just plays the music (only dev supported) over my game sound. 3-In game access to everything- this is another misunderstood feature. With 360, if im playing a game, and i want to.....say play netflix. i dont have to go to the dashboard first, all i do is press the guide button, and click netflix. It stops my game and immediately plays. Or if im playing........say mass effect, and i wanna play Jade Empire that i downloaded. Same thing, just press the guide, and scroll to downloaded games. Its is nowhere NEAR as easy on PS3 4- Trueskill Ranking system- I cant count how many times i was playing warhawk when i first got it, and got beat like a runaway slave until i got the hang of it. Imagine going to the gym to play basketball, and everyday you had to play against Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and Shaq!! Trueskill tracks your accomplishments ingame, and matches you with people on your level, making sure every experience is fair, and fun. 5 Intergration- Kinda speaks for itself. Basically my friends list follows me through every game. im even notified if a friend is playing the same game as me, and allows me to join the right then, no lobbies, menus, or anything. I can also check my achievements, friends achievements, and the profiles of the last 40 people ive played online at anytime, whether im watching a movie, netflix, playing a game, or whatever. 6-Cross game invites- no matter what im doing, i can invite a player to my game with the press of a button. No need to type a message like on PS3. I can also record voice messages to send to anyone ingame. 7-Server based system- the myth going on is that LIVE doesnt have dedicated servers. While this is mostly true, what people fail to realize is that EVERYTHING Live related IS kept on servers, servers that MS maintains. My friends lists, achievements (even my achievement progress), games played, and even my LOCATION or MODE in the game is tracked and displayed to my friends. Meaning i can check my friends profile (ingame if i choose) and see what area hes cruising in GTA iv, or the score in madden or NFL nk9, or the mode, map, and score in Halo 3. There are many more, but like i said, go experience it for yourself. "navyguy21This is a pretty accurate statement. There is a lot more things to list but this is good, you should make a PSN list in comparison.
I'll make a short list of what I think are the main differences: XBL- cross game voice chat, cross game invites, faster firmware/game updates, every DL game has a demo, the Trueskill thingy. PSN- more dedicated servers in 1st party games, no file size limit in Store, PS3/PSP Remote Play, Home, internet browser. I've used both services for around 2 years now and (at this point anyway) don't really prefer one to the other, both have their advantages.Floppy_Jim
Yeah I am new to PSN so I don't know how bad it was in the first year and half but so far it's pretty good. Tell the truth there is lag on PSN anybody that tells you there isn't is lying. All internet gaming will have lag sometime.
[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]I'll make a short list of what I think are the main differences: XBL- cross game voice chat, cross game invites, faster firmware/game updates, every DL game has a demo, the Trueskill thingy. PSN- more dedicated servers in 1st party games, no file size limit in Store, PS3/PSP Remote Play, Home, internet browser. I've used both services for around 2 years now and (at this point anyway) don't really prefer one to the other, both have their advantages.PS3_3DO
Yeah I am new to PSN so I don't know how bad it was in the first year and half but so far it's pretty good. Tell the truth there is lag on PSN anybody that tells you there isn't is lying. All internet gaming will have lag sometime.
It was pretty basic in the first year or so, you couldn't even message people during a game and there were no trophies. It didn't become a great service until it got in-game XMB last year.PSN is like someone doing DIY and Live is like buying it brand new professionally made.
DIY it's cheap and it gets the job done but it's not the same quality. You go out and get an expert to do it and you get all the luxuries and benefits.
PSN has a lot of the same features there just not done as well, linked together or of the same high standard as Live. Trophys is a fantastic example. Same thing as achievos really but it's not of the same quality. Anyone that's got both should know what i mean in that area.
I have to give it to Xbox Live on this one.
1. Xbox Live has a waaay better in game Menu. I hate how laggy it is when I try to use the in game XMB on my PS3 especially if god forbid I try to compare trophies with someone else while I'm playing a game. The Xbox's Guide Button just feels so much more fluid. Also, typing messages on either system with the on-screen keyboard is very annoying, which is why I love the 360's voice messaging system. I can simple record myself saying something and send it to a friend.
2. I feel more connected to my friends on Xbox Live than I do on PS3. I'm going to use COD:WAW as an example of the difference between the 2 services. For one, on PS3 all you can see is the name of the game y our friend is playing. On 360, you can actually see if they are playing single player or multiplayer, what difficulty they are playing on, what level/map they are playing on, etc. On PS3 all you see is the name of the game, while on 360 you would see it say something like "Playing Search and Destroy on Outskirts". Also, to get someone to join you on PS3, you would have to send them a message or tell them to go on the game, wait for them to get onto the multiplayer lobby, than send them a party invite from inside the game. On 360, if I have the game in my system but I'm on the dashboard and my friend wants me to join him, all he has to do is send me an invite and once I accept it I'll automatically go into the game.
3. The party system and Cross-Game Chat is a big thing for me. I love being able to play Gears on my 360 and talk to a group of friends who are playing Left4Dead. Supposedly the PS3 had that feature added in some update, but whenever I try it it tells me I need some PS3 camera or something so idk if it works for other people.
4. The 360 gives gamers the ability to look at their friends profiles, then look at their friend's friends. On PS3 you can't view your friend's friendlist.
The only advantages PSN has over Xbox Live imo would be the PSN store being a lot more organized than the Xbox Marketplace, having less annoying children, and of course, it being free. Don't get me wrong though, I like PSN too. It's great for playing games online and it is free, but Xbox Live just feels like a better all around online system.
Live is much, much better. It has cross-game chat, easier menus (in-game and out) and most importantly, achievements. I don't want to get into a trophy vs achievements argument, but for me it is a huge plus for the 360. Read the first reply in this thread, he answers the question.
PSN is like someone doing DIY and Live is like buying it brand new professionally made.
DIY it's cheap and it gets the job done but it's not the same quality. You go out and get an expert to do it and you get all the luxuries and benefits.
PSN has a lot of the same features there just not done as well, linked together or of the same high standard as Live. Trophys is a fantastic example. Same thing as achievos really but it's not of the same quality. Anyone that's got both should know what i mean in that area.
CreepyBacon
from a student standpoint where money is tight as a nun, the PSN's better tbh since the core online part is free, i could divert the £40 for live somewhere else more fun imo.
Both are good services but the PSN has gained a lot of ground not had any major problems with it either 1/2 the people in here tend to exaggerate the PSN is totally crap and all that but its a good free service so why are people pissin and moaning when its a free service compared to a pay for one.
To be honest in another way thats like saying Freeview is crap compared to sky cause it has more channels than freeview even though Freeview is free.Hopefully someone gets what im meaning..
i use both almost every day....and imho xbox live owns PSN. also why do people act like every PSNgame has dedicated servers? only few games like Warhawk, MGO etc have dedicated servers and dedicated servers doesnt always mean no lag, look at MGO, everyone in the match has full green connection yet it lags so much sometimes.
[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]
[QUOTE="360hammer"]
Don't you mean, you're right and I have no come back because those thing are possible?
360hammer
Gee, navyguy provided a complete and concise list and all you did was say, 'no you're wrong.' and he has to proive why, just on you're hearsay? Sorry, but Navyguy wins the argument until you can be more concise with your end...
Hearsay? Are you telling me that you think the statements I made like being notified when friends come online or the fact I can access friends list in game hearsay? LOLBTW Here's a link to an article talking about the in game music patent with a link to the accual patent
http://www.ripten.com/2008/03/31/microsoft-owns-patent-for-in-game-custom-soundtracks/
How is that? concise enough for you?
OMG, PSN tells you when a friend is online and that makes it equal to XBL....what is the color of the sky in your world?Virtually EVERY multuiplat owner will tell you XBL is way above PSN...
Hearsay? Are you telling me that you think the statements I made like being notified when friends come online or the fact I can access friends list in game hearsay? LOL[QUOTE="360hammer"]
[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]
Gee, navyguy provided a complete and concise list and all you did was say, 'no you're wrong.' and he has to proive why, just on you're hearsay? Sorry, but Navyguy wins the argument until you can be more concise with your end...
MizFitAwesome
BTW Here's a link to an article talking about the in game music patent with a link to the accual patent
http://www.ripten.com/2008/03/31/microsoft-owns-patent-for-in-game-custom-soundtracks/
How is that? concise enough for you?
OMG, PSN tells you when a friend is online and that makes it equal to XBL....what is the color of the sky in your world?Virtually EVERY multuiplat owner will tell you XBL is way above PSN...
Well now the topic is what are the differences is it not? Again I was just making a point the list I originaly responded to were not all differences as in the friend notification. Obviously you have a hard time reading so you just try and make people look ignorant to hide your own. Not once did I say one was better and I'm not going to. I don't know what part of "What are the differences?" makes you feel the need to respond as if it says " Which one is better?" both are clearly different statements. Friend notification is on both systems is it not? So that's not a difference is it not? You keep on yet really say nothing but argue your opinion.
Straight from my blog "Ive seen this asked over and over on this site, so since i own both, i decided to list a few. But to fully understand, you have to experience it for yourself. So take this list, find a friend with a 360, and see for yourself. 1- cross game chat -this is more than it sounds. not only can you chat accross different games, but you can seamlessly create a party while in game, and switch from friends only chat, to chatting with people online, all without leaving the game 2- Custom soundtracks- this is the most misunderstood by fanboys. This feature is built into every game, and is built on the LIVE software that MS created. Meaning when i play a custom soundtrack on 360 (whether its from the hard drive, pc, or MP3 player) the game music, and ONLY the game music, stops playing. This doesnt happen with PS3. On 360, it only plays the sound effects and ambient sounds in the game, allowing me to hear my song. PS3 just plays the music (only dev supported) over my game sound. 3-In game access to everything- this is another misunderstood feature. With 360, if im playing a game, and i want to.....say play netflix. i dont have to go to the dashboard first, all i do is press the guide button, and click netflix. It stops my game and immediately plays. Or if im playing........say mass effect, and i wanna play Jade Empire that i downloaded. Same thing, just press the guide, and scroll to downloaded games. Its is nowhere NEAR as easy on PS3 4- Trueskill Ranking system- I cant count how many times i was playing warhawk when i first got it, and got beat like a runaway slave until i got the hang of it. Imagine going to the gym to play basketball, and everyday you had to play against Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and Shaq!! Trueskill tracks your accomplishments ingame, and matches you with people on your level, making sure every experience is fair, and fun. 5 Intergration- Kinda speaks for itself. Basically my friends list follows me through every game. im even notified if a friend is playing the same game as me, and allows me to join the right then, no lobbies, menus, or anything. I can also check my achievements, friends achievements, and the profiles of the last 40 people ive played online at anytime, whether im watching a movie, netflix, playing a game, or whatever. 6-Cross game invites- no matter what im doing, i can invite a player to my game with the press of a button. No need to type a message like on PS3. I can also record voice messages to send to anyone ingame. 7-Server based system- the myth going on is that LIVE doesnt have dedicated servers. While this is mostly true, what people fail to realize is that EVERYTHING Live related IS kept on servers, servers that MS maintains. My friends lists, achievements (even my achievement progress), games played, and even my LOCATION or MODE in the game is tracked and displayed to my friends. Meaning i can check my friends profile (ingame if i choose) and see what area hes cruising in GTA iv, or the score in madden or NFL nk9, or the mode, map, and score in Halo 3. There are many more, but like i said, go experience it for yourself. "navyguy21
nice
PSN is free and provides the same core service, so I prefer PSN.
PSN is about as good a live was on the 1st xbox.
[QUOTE="360hammer"]
[QUOTE="navyguy21"]
Whatever dude, im not in the mood for this crap:|
MizFitAwesome
Don't you mean, you're right and I have no come back because those thing are possible?
Gee, navyguy provided a complete and concise list and all you did was say, 'no you're wrong.' and he has to proive why, just on you're hearsay? Sorry, but Navyguy wins the argument until you can be more concise with your end...
sept a few things he said are false or made it out to be a feature that only live has (like being able to start a new game or go to the PS store while in a game...it just exits you out of the game on the ps3....i dont see how thats any different then the 360...) and there is cross game chat... but with text only... you can view other people trophies online and the only reason there is no universal music support while playing games on the ps3 is purely a legal reason which should be taken into account....if he wants to be concise....then be f****** concise about everything
PSN is about as good a live was on the 1st xbox.
doobie1975
What's the difference with the old one and the new one? I never owned an Xbox 1.
[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]
[QUOTE="360hammer"] Hearsay? Are you telling me that you think the statements I made like being notified when friends come online or the fact I can access friends list in game hearsay? LOL
BTW Here's a link to an article talking about the in game music patent with a link to the accual patent
http://www.ripten.com/2008/03/31/microsoft-owns-patent-for-in-game-custom-soundtracks/
How is that? concise enough for you?
360hammer
OMG, PSN tells you when a friend is online and that makes it equal to XBL....what is the color of the sky in your world?Virtually EVERY multuiplat owner will tell you XBL is way above PSN...
Well now the topic is what are the differences is it not? Again I was just making a point the list I originaly responded to were not all differences as in the friend notification. Obviously you have a hard time reading so you just try and make people look ignorant to hide your own. Not once did I say one was better and I'm not going to. I don't know what part of "What are the differences?" makes you feel the need to respond as if it says " Which one is better?" both are clearly different statements. Friend notification is on both systems is it not? So that's not a difference is it not? You keep on yet really say nothing but argue your opinion.
wow miz, isnt what you just said hearsay as well...good job ruining your arguement
[QUOTE="360hammer"]
[QUOTE="navyguy21"]
Microsoft holds a patent on this and the work around is allowing the devs to impliment.
Hmmm yes it is, before certain updates you are correct but the PS3 has the same function.
OK, on PS3 you are notified when friends come online, I too can go to my friends list in game and see what they are playing, I too can compare trophies and view profiles of friends and recently met players. I'll admit it depends on the game weather or not I can join my friends unlike the 360.
Again this is not the case with all PS3 games, PS3 cannot voice message in game though just text.
As the info is not as through as the 360 you can see which game your friends are playing and as with SOCOM it will tell you the server and room they are in all with the touch of a button, Sony keeps friends and trophy info on a server so don't know what your trying to say here.
"navyguy21
Doesnt matter the REASON live has these, its just that it does. and dont lie to yourself, i own a PS3, and PSN DOES NOT have the same level of in game access to everything that 360 does and you know it. Dude, like i said in my post earlier, there is no way a person who HAS NOT experienced LIVE will understand what i mean, so just go use it for a bit, and compare it to PS3, or if you DO own a 360, stop lying to yourself. I have played on both to know the truth
psn is still better it has Home
Straight from my blog "Ive seen this asked over and over on this site, so since i own both, i decided to list a few. But to fully understand, you have to experience it for yourself. So take this list, find a friend with a 360, and see for yourself. 1- cross game chat -this is more than it sounds. not only can you chat accross different games, but you can seamlessly create a party while in game, and switch from friends only chat, to chatting with people online, all without leaving the game 2- Custom soundtracks- this is the most misunderstood by fanboys. This feature is built into every game, and is built on the LIVE software that MS created. Meaning when i play a custom soundtrack on 360 (whether its from the hard drive, pc, or MP3 player) the game music, and ONLY the game music, stops playing. This doesnt happen with PS3. On 360, it only plays the sound effects and ambient sounds in the game, allowing me to hear my song. PS3 just plays the music (only dev supported) over my game sound. 3-In game access to everything- this is another misunderstood feature. With 360, if im playing a game, and i want to.....say play netflix. i dont have to go to the dashboard first, all i do is press the guide button, and click netflix. It stops my game and immediately plays. Or if im playing........say mass effect, and i wanna play Jade Empire that i downloaded. Same thing, just press the guide, and scroll to downloaded games. Its is nowhere NEAR as easy on PS3 4- Trueskill Ranking system- I cant count how many times i was playing warhawk when i first got it, and got beat like a runaway slave until i got the hang of it. Imagine going to the gym to play basketball, and everyday you had to play against Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and Shaq!! Trueskill tracks your accomplishments ingame, and matches you with people on your level, making sure every experience is fair, and fun. 5 Intergration- Kinda speaks for itself. Basically my friends list follows me through every game. im even notified if a friend is playing the same game as me, and allows me to join the right then, no lobbies, menus, or anything. I can also check my achievements, friends achievements, and the profiles of the last 40 people ive played online at anytime, whether im watching a movie, netflix, playing a game, or whatever. 6-Cross game invites- no matter what im doing, i can invite a player to my game with the press of a button. No need to type a message like on PS3. I can also record voice messages to send to anyone ingame. 7-Server based system- the myth going on is that LIVE doesnt have dedicated servers. While this is mostly true, what people fail to realize is that EVERYTHING Live related IS kept on servers, servers that MS maintains. My friends lists, achievements (even my achievement progress), games played, and even my LOCATION or MODE in the game is tracked and displayed to my friends. Meaning i can check my friends profile (ingame if i choose) and see what area hes cruising in GTA iv, or the score in madden or NFL nk9, or the mode, map, and score in Halo 3. There are many more, but like i said, go experience it for yourself. "navyguy21i dont care about that stuff its useless all i want to do is play the game online to fave some fun
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