Xbox One = Better Games (So Far), PS4 = Slightly Better Hardware

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#51 lockjaw333
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inFamous: Second Son shits on every Xbone exclusive. Planetside 2 shits on Titan Fall. PS4 is much more powerful than Xbone.

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Infamous is a good series, but I think people go a bit overboard claiming that its elite or something. I realize its one of Sony's exclusive franchises so it will get hyped to hell.
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#52 TheEroica  Moderator
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inFamous: Second Son shits on every Xbone exclusive. Planetside 2 shits on Titan Fall. PS4 is much more powerful than Xbone.

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Dude, please stop...

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#53 Armoured_Mage
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all exclusive games are trash, the only good games are multiplat.

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#54 TheEroica  Moderator
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all exclusive games are trash, the only good games are multiplat.

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I wouldnt say trash, but I would say out classed in almost every way. Don't care what anyone says either, exclusive reviews are inflated because of the hype... I said it.
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#55 NFJSupreme
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I agree. Xbone's line up is better. Still getting a PS4 first though.
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#56 tormentos
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Do you have the money to buy all those exclusives? Sony games already don't sell to we'll and now they are going to saturate the market just so they can win a pissing contest. No a good move in my book.FoxbatAlpha

 

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Dude, please stop...

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The closes thing to Infamous on xbox one is Quantum Fake.

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#58 robbie80
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So far Xbox One has the better lineup of games, and quality of games is what matters most. Things could change over time, but for now this is how it stands.

Who agrees?

Baurus_1
well not really Sony hasn't showing off there other games there smart not showing everything at once.
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#59 Ne-Plus-Ultra
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ps4 is too weak to run titanfall, confirmed the by devs themselves. :(

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Yeah and those are the same devs that claim that only 5% of gamers play single player games, which everyone knows that is a complete BS. Plus they have said so many things that contradict each other that I think their credibility is completely spent. I used to feel sorry for them, but now I'm starting to wonder if Activision had good reason firing them.

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if you think this is "quality" then i feel terrible for you,

 

xbox one has noticeably weaker hardware, the worst game launch lineup in history and is priced $100 more. 

 

do you notice the copy and paste soldiers? the pre baked lighting and static backgrounds? such a epic battle scene omg omg thank you Microsoft for bringing this awesome next gen experience.

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just like last gen Sony Fan wont have games to play the first year their console is out but instead talk about how theoretically powaful te hawdwa is.  History repeating itself.

 

Only the games matter Sony Fan and the earlier they come the better.

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halo 5 will be xdone's first true exclusive FPS and it's coming way after launch. enjoy those crappy multiplat shooters that are a f*ckload better on the pc.
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#64 Shensolidus
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"][QUOTE="kuu2"]

just like last gen Sony Fan wont have games to play the first year their console is out but instead talk about how theoretically powaful te hawdwa is.  History repeating itself.

 

Only the games matter Sony Fan and the earlier they come the better.

kuu2

halo 5 will be xdone's first true exclusive FPS and it's coming way after launch. enjoy those crappy multiplat shooters that are a f*ckload better on the pc.

Sigh.......

 

MSoft didnt have a Halo game on 36o for a while but still buried Sony with other exclusives early.  Shooters are not the only games that people play by the way.  Again look at Sony's history of having games early in their console life cycle, it does not happen.

*sigh* To be fair, Sony does have a far bigger line up of exclusives and games for the PS4, particularly at launch.. MS just showed you all the major titles they have for the first 18 months of their console, and its pretty bare by comparison.
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[QUOTE="pcgamingowns"][QUOTE="kuu2"]

just like last gen Sony Fan wont have games to play the first year their console is out but instead talk about how theoretically powaful te hawdwa is.  History repeating itself.

 

Only the games matter Sony Fan and the earlier they come the better.

kuu2

halo 5 will be xdone's first true exclusive FPS and it's coming way after launch. enjoy those crappy multiplat shooters that are a f*ckload better on the pc.

Sigh.......

 

MSoft didnt have a Halo game on 36o for a while but still buried Sony with other exclusives early.  Shooters are not the only games that people play by the way.  Again look at Sony's history of having games early in their console life cycle, it does not happen.

360 launched a year before ps3 and it was 100$ cheaper.

xbox360 at launch had no games pc gamers could care about except a true exclusive fps (perfect dark zero)

ps4 is launching with a true exclusive fps right out of the gate like 360 did (killzone shadow fall)

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#66 Gargus
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PC wins in hardware and games so either way you're getting second best.gamebreakerz__

So how come you constantly see PC gamers petition and begging for ports of console games?

How come the walking dead won so many awards when it didnt have any cutting edge graphics and was inferior to most other games at the time? I mean it couldnt have been a good game without super high end graphics right? Or the last of us is being hailed as the best game in years, but it isnt on the PC.

Respawn entertainment is releasing titanfall for the xbox one and the PC but they say the game is better on the xbox one than the PC.

How many PC exclusives each year are there that win game of the year awards and end up being some of the years biggest sellers compared to console games?

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#67 ZoomZoom2490
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50% more powerfull is "slightly better"?

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[QUOTE="silversix_"]"slightly" haha 50% is slightly now? PS4 has better games and much more powerful hardware. EG101

So according to you the 4 DME's and ES RAM that Xbox ONE has and PS4 does NOT have will have ZERO effect on game performance. That is why MS brought in Top engineers from IBM and AMD to work on their chip. You believe that these engineers are stupid and decided to waste silicon on the XboxOne motherboard for NO good reason. well I guess we'll just have to sit back and see how it shakes out. So Far every DEV that has commented on PS4 and One have said they are comparable.

Thats why games on Xbox ONE to this point not only look better than PS4 games but are currently running better even though Sony's games are further in the development cycle. Go ahead and make assumptions about technology you have zero clue about. Xbox One currently has a much better game line up than PS4.

You can go ahead and stick your head in the sand and PRETEND like PS4 has better games and hardware but so far nothing Sony has shown has proven this. It might very well end up true but until games actually start showing this its all hypothetical.

 

 

 

first of all data move engines do absolutely very littlefor performance so stop acting like you know what your talking about.

 

The ESram doesnt do much because the xbone gpu has less hardware, 6 less CU's, 16 less ROPS, less TMU's, less ACES, 

fewer CPU cores available for games

less ram available for games

no on board ARM SoC to deal with background stuff

 

DME's and Esram cant add on 700 gigaflops of graphical processing power, it cant add on 6 more CU's or 16 more ROPS, it cant free up CPU cores

 

 

 

The Sorcerer real tech demo running in real time on a PS4 blows every single thing out the water that Xbox One had to show graphically

Infamous graphics are better then anything shown at Xbox E3 by a long shot, Xbox One GPU has 12 CU's, 16 ROPS while the PS4 has 18 CU's and 32 ROPS along with a onboard ARM SoC, which the Xbox One doesnt have the ps4 also has more ram available for games then the Xbox One... stop being delusional, nothing showed at Xbox e3 looked graphically impressive at all, not even pre baked lighting, poor physics, static backgrounds Forza 5. lemms are butthurt they got the weakest next gen console bahahahaha

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#69 bayboydray
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In case you dumbasses in love with sony havent realized... the official specs arent even official yet, everybody arguing about all ddr3 vs ddr5 crap when all of that can change by launch day, if the ps4 is more powerful then why cant it run Titanfall?? its like some sports cars are rated at like 300 hp when really their running 380hp or like tuning a car. You could have a motor that can handle anything but if its not tuned right then it doesnt matter, as of right now suposedly ps4 is more powerful, but its the developers of the games that need to tune the games for the hardware.
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]"slightly" haha 50% is slightly now? PS4 has better games and much more powerful hardware. EG101

So according to you the 4 DME's and ES RAM that Xbox ONE has and PS4 does NOT have will have ZERO effect on game performance. That is why MS brought in Top engineers from IBM and AMD to work on their chip. You believe that these engineers are stupid and decided to waste silicon on the XboxOne motherboard for NO good reason. well I guess we'll just have to sit back and see how it shakes out. So Far every DEV that has commented on PS4 and One have said they are comparable.

Thats why games on Xbox ONE to this point not only look better than PS4 games but are currently running better even though Sony's games are further in the development cycle. Go ahead and make assumptions about technology you have zero clue about. Xbox One currently has a much better game line up than PS4.

You can go ahead and stick your head in the sand and PRETEND like PS4 has better games and hardware but so far nothing Sony has shown has proven this. It might very well end up true but until games actually start showing this its all hypothetical.

 

 

 

 

Good post.

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In case you dumbasses in love with sony havent realized... the official specs arent even official yet, everybody arguing about all ddr3 vs ddr5 crap when all of that can change by launch day, if the ps4 is more powerful then why cant it run Titanfall?? its like some sports cars are rated at like 300 hp when really their running 380hp or like tuning a car. You could have a motor that can handle anything but if its not tuned right then it doesnt matter, as of right now suposedly ps4 is more powerful, but its the developers of the games that need to tune the games for the hardware.bayboydray
of course it can run Titanfall, who said PS4 cant run Titanfall? have you seen PS4 games? they contain about 2-3x more graphical assets and fidelity then Titanfall, dont let Microsoft PR brainwash you, Xbox One struggles to run a Source engine game at 60 fps... dat 1.1 teraflop GPU

 

i wonder why all the developers showed most of their multiplat games on PS4 (like Watch Dogs and others)

 

PS4 obviously more powerful, Xbox One is at a severe disadvantage in graphical power, 700 gigaflops less of GPU power really does show already when you have the Xbox one struggling to run Titanfall at 60 FPS

 

Xbox one struggles to run Dead rising 3, it ran at 20 fps and it didnt even look good so now theyre going to have to tone down the graphics even more in DR3 just to get the frame rate stable, poor lems

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#72 22Toothpicks
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Arent you all forgetting that Sony main studios havent announced their games yet?

We still have GamesCom and TGS.

Naughty Dog, Santa Monica Studios, Media Molecule (Tearaway is not being made by the main team, but by a small 15 people team) and Guerrilla (2nd team) havent announced their games. Im sure Japan Studios also has something in the works, since Japan Studio has many teams.

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This. I can only dream of what they are making at Santa Monica Studios....mmm...let's hope GamesCom does have some announcements in store for us.
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[QUOTE="EG101"]

[QUOTE="silversix_"]"slightly" haha 50% is slightly now? PS4 has better games and much more powerful hardware. xboxiphoneps3

So according to you the 4 DME's and ES RAM that Xbox ONE has and PS4 does NOT have will have ZERO effect on game performance. That is why MS brought in Top engineers from IBM and AMD to work on their chip. You believe that these engineers are stupid and decided to waste silicon on the XboxOne motherboard for NO good reason. well I guess we'll just have to sit back and see how it shakes out. So Far every DEV that has commented on PS4 and One have said they are comparable.

Thats why games on Xbox ONE to this point not only look better than PS4 games but are currently running better even though Sony's games are further in the development cycle. Go ahead and make assumptions about technology you have zero clue about. Xbox One currently has a much better game line up than PS4.

You can go ahead and stick your head in the sand and PRETEND like PS4 has better games and hardware but so far nothing Sony has shown has proven this. It might very well end up true but until games actually start showing this its all hypothetical.

 

 

 

first of all data move engines do absolutely nothing for performance so stop acting like you know what your talking about.

 

The ESram doesnt do much because the xbone gpu has less hardware, 6 less CU's, 16 less ROPS, less TMU's, less ACES, 

fewer CPU cores available for games

less ram available for games

no on board ARM SoC to deal with background stuff

 

 

 

The Sorcerer real tech demo running in real time on a PS4 blows every single thing out the water that Xbox One had to show graphically

Infamous graphics are better then anything shown at Xbox E3 by a long shot, Xbox One GPU has 12 CU's, 16 ROPS while the PS4 has 18 CU's and 32 ROPS along with a onboard ARM SoC, which the Xbox One doesnt have the ps4 also has more ram available for games then the Xbox One... stop being delusional, nothing showed at Xbox e3 looked graphically impressive at all, not even pre baked lighting, poor physics, static backgrounds Forza 5. lemms are butthurt they got the weakest next gen console bahahahaha

Sorry, but your post is wrong. 4 DMEs and ES RAM, on the Xbox One, matters a lot. It can bridge the supposed gap between the Xbox One and PS4. Also, the Xbox One has much better DirectX support and that can make a big difference in games too. Most likely, graphics will be extremely similar on both consoles to the point of being indistinguishable.

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[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]

[QUOTE="EG101"]

So according to you the 4 DME's and ES RAM that Xbox ONE has and PS4 does NOT have will have ZERO effect on game performance. That is why MS brought in Top engineers from IBM and AMD to work on their chip. You believe that these engineers are stupid and decided to waste silicon on the XboxOne motherboard for NO good reason. well I guess we'll just have to sit back and see how it shakes out. So Far every DEV that has commented on PS4 and One have said they are comparable.

Thats why games on Xbox ONE to this point not only look better than PS4 games but are currently running better even though Sony's games are further in the development cycle. Go ahead and make assumptions about technology you have zero clue about. Xbox One currently has a much better game line up than PS4.

You can go ahead and stick your head in the sand and PRETEND like PS4 has better games and hardware but so far nothing Sony has shown has proven this. It might very well end up true but until games actually start showing this its all hypothetical.

 

 

 

Baurus_1

first of all data move engines do absolutely nothing for performance so stop acting like you know what your talking about.

 

The ESram doesnt do much because the xbone gpu has less hardware, 6 less CU's, 16 less ROPS, less TMU's, less ACES, 

fewer CPU cores available for games

less ram available for games

no on board ARM SoC to deal with background stuff

 

 

 

The Sorcerer real tech demo running in real time on a PS4 blows every single thing out the water that Xbox One had to show graphically

Infamous graphics are better then anything shown at Xbox E3 by a long shot, Xbox One GPU has 12 CU's, 16 ROPS while the PS4 has 18 CU's and 32 ROPS along with a onboard ARM SoC, which the Xbox One doesnt have the ps4 also has more ram available for games then the Xbox One... stop being delusional, nothing showed at Xbox e3 looked graphically impressive at all, not even pre baked lighting, poor physics, static backgrounds Forza 5. lemms are butthurt they got the weakest next gen console bahahahaha

Sorry, but your post is wrong. 4 DMEs and ES RAM, on the Xbox One, matters a lot. It can bridge the supposed gap between the Xbox One and PS4. Also, the Xbox One has much better DirectX support and that can make a big difference in games too. Most likely, graphics will be extremely similar on both consoles to the point of being indistinguishable.

PS4 can run DirectX, your point is moot, and how can you say such a thing? did you watch E3? ps4 games looked noticeably better then Xbox One games already doesnt change the fact that the PS4 GPU has 700 gigaflops more processing power doesnt change the fact that the PS4 will have 7 gigs of ram available for games as opposed to the 5 gigs of ram for the Xbox One doesnt change the fact that the Xbox One has 6 cpu cores only for games doesnt change the fact that the Xbox one has to use its CPU for background stuff while the PS4 has a onboard ARM SoC to handle that stuff

 

 

indistinguishable? lmfao you got to be kidding me... look at the copy and pasted soldiers, pre baked lighting and static background, hell even all the soldiers are the same exact looking doing the same exact animations.... THAT CLOUD :lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

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[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]

[QUOTE="EG101"]

So according to you the 4 DME's and ES RAM that Xbox ONE has and PS4 does NOT have will have ZERO effect on game performance. That is why MS brought in Top engineers from IBM and AMD to work on their chip. You believe that these engineers are stupid and decided to waste silicon on the XboxOne motherboard for NO good reason. well I guess we'll just have to sit back and see how it shakes out. So Far every DEV that has commented on PS4 and One have said they are comparable.

Thats why games on Xbox ONE to this point not only look better than PS4 games but are currently running better even though Sony's games are further in the development cycle. Go ahead and make assumptions about technology you have zero clue about. Xbox One currently has a much better game line up than PS4.

You can go ahead and stick your head in the sand and PRETEND like PS4 has better games and hardware but so far nothing Sony has shown has proven this. It might very well end up true but until games actually start showing this its all hypothetical.

 

 

 

Baurus_1

first of all data move engines do absolutely nothing for performance so stop acting like you know what your talking about.

 

The ESram doesnt do much because the xbone gpu has less hardware, 6 less CU's, 16 less ROPS, less TMU's, less ACES, 

fewer CPU cores available for games

less ram available for games

no on board ARM SoC to deal with background stuff

 

 

 

The Sorcerer real tech demo running in real time on a PS4 blows every single thing out the water that Xbox One had to show graphically

Infamous graphics are better then anything shown at Xbox E3 by a long shot, Xbox One GPU has 12 CU's, 16 ROPS while the PS4 has 18 CU's and 32 ROPS along with a onboard ARM SoC, which the Xbox One doesnt have the ps4 also has more ram available for games then the Xbox One... stop being delusional, nothing showed at Xbox e3 looked graphically impressive at all, not even pre baked lighting, poor physics, static backgrounds Forza 5. lemms are butthurt they got the weakest next gen console bahahahaha

Sorry, but your post is wrong. 4 DMEs and ES RAM, on the Xbox One, matters a lot. It can bridge the supposed gap between the Xbox One and PS4. Also, the Xbox One has much better DirectX support and that can make a big difference in games too. Most likely, graphics will be extremely similar on both consoles to the point of being indistinguishable.

nm I'm not going to comment on the hardware side of things as it's not my forte but MS has DirectX support because it's their own graphic API Why the fvck would Sony be using it? PS4 uses OpenGL, I'm sure.
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[QUOTE="Baurus_1"]

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] first of all data move engines do absolutely nothing for performance so stop acting like you know what your talking about.

 

The ESram doesnt do much because the xbone gpu has less hardware, 6 less CU's, 16 less ROPS, less TMU's, less ACES, 

fewer CPU cores available for games

less ram available for games

no on board ARM SoC to deal with background stuff

 

 

 

The Sorcerer real tech demo running in real time on a PS4 blows every single thing out the water that Xbox One had to show graphically

Infamous graphics are better then anything shown at Xbox E3 by a long shot, Xbox One GPU has 12 CU's, 16 ROPS while the PS4 has 18 CU's and 32 ROPS along with a onboard ARM SoC, which the Xbox One doesnt have the ps4 also has more ram available for games then the Xbox One... stop being delusional, nothing showed at Xbox e3 looked graphically impressive at all, not even pre baked lighting, poor physics, static backgrounds Forza 5. lemms are butthurt they got the weakest next gen console bahahahaha

22Toothpicks

Sorry, but your post is wrong. 4 DMEs and ES RAM, on the Xbox One, matters a lot. It can bridge the supposed gap between the Xbox One and PS4. Also, the Xbox One has much better DirectX support and that can make a big difference in games too. Most likely, graphics will be extremely similar on both consoles to the point of being indistinguishable.

nm I'm not going to comment on the hardware side of things as it's not my forte but MS has DirectX support because it's their own graphic API Why the fvck would Sony be using it? PS4 uses OpenGL, I'm sure.

PS4 can use DirectX, doesnt mean they will, anyways DirectX is not really a advantage at all, Gabe Newell has actually managed to squeeze out better performance through OpenGL then DirectX
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Well better games is nothing more than your opinion. The PS4 being a more powerful system however is fact.
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[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"][QUOTE="Baurus_1"]

Sorry, but your post is wrong. 4 DMEs and ES RAM, on the Xbox One, matters a lot. It can bridge the supposed gap between the Xbox One and PS4. Also, the Xbox One has much better DirectX support and that can make a big difference in games too. Most likely, graphics will be extremely similar on both consoles to the point of being indistinguishable.

xboxiphoneps3

nm I'm not going to comment on the hardware side of things as it's not my forte but MS has DirectX support because it's their own graphic API Why the fvck would Sony be using it? PS4 uses OpenGL, I'm sure.

PS4 can use DirectX, doesnt mean they will, anyways DirectX is not really a advantage at all, Gabe Newell has actually managed to squeeze out better performance through OpenGL then DirectX

the PS4 cannot use directx. The Xbox One can use Directx 11.2 fully.

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[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="22Toothpicks"] nm I'm not going to comment on the hardware side of things as it's not my forte but MS has DirectX support because it's their own graphic API Why the fvck would Sony be using it? PS4 uses OpenGL, I'm sure.BlackShirt20

PS4 can use DirectX, doesnt mean they will, anyways DirectX is not really a advantage at all, Gabe Newell has actually managed to squeeze out better performance through OpenGL then DirectX

the PS4 cannot use directx. The Xbox One can use Directx 11.2 fully.

http://www.geek.com/games/sony-iimprove-directx-11-for-the-ps4-blu-ray-1544364/

 

not only can the PS4 provide the same feature sets of DX11, it has its own tricks up its sleeves that the One doesnt have 

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[QUOTE="Shensolidus"]

*sigh* To be fair, Sony does have a far bigger line up of exclusives and games for the PS4, particularly at launch.. MS just showed you all the major titles they have for the first 18 months of their console, and its pretty bare by comparison.kuu2

 

Sony always talks about their games and then misses on their delivery dates.  Until Sony delivers on their empty rhetoric of games early they are just doing what thy do every gen since PS1 and that is just talk.

 

Showing games is way better than telling me what you are going to launch.

Sony has 140 games in active development, what Sony showed at E3 is better then what the Xbone showed, i dont want to play games like Project Sparks and Killer Instinct LOL i want actual games not stupid fighting games or building games
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#82 BlackShirt20
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[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] PS4 can use DirectX, doesnt mean they will, anyways DirectX is not really a advantage at all, Gabe Newell has actually managed to squeeze out better performance through OpenGL then DirectXxboxiphoneps3

the PS4 cannot use directx. The Xbox One can use Directx 11.2 fully.

http://www.geek.com/games/sony-iimprove-directx-11-for-the-ps4-blu-ray-1544364/

not only can the PS4 provide the same feature sets of DX11, it has its own tricks up its sleeves that the One doesnt have

Its there version of Directx 11.1 that has never been proven......mean while DirectX 11.2 is light years ahead of 11.1 lol so good luck with scraps.

FF (fun fact), Final Fantasy XV uses Directx 11.2 and is being developed on PC and Xbox One before its port to PS4 LOL.

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#83 Heil68
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Not me! :)

And anyone who thinks Sony is not going to come out guns blazing with games and keep the support up, is out of their mind.

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yup, you know the exclusives are coming, I know they are coming and so does the world http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/06/10/30-ps4-games-in-development-by-sony-worldwide-studios-20-out-in-first-year-12-new-ip/ Wishful thinking on lems part to think Sony will drop core like MS did last gen
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[QUOTE="BlackShirt20"]the PS4 cannot use directx. The Xbox One can use Directx 11.2 fully.

BlackShirt20

http://www.geek.com/games/sony-iimprove-directx-11-for-the-ps4-blu-ray-1544364/

not only can the PS4 provide the same feature sets of DX11, it has its own tricks up its sleeves that the One doesnt have

Its there version of Directx 11.1 that has never been proven......mean while DirectX 11.2 is light years ahead of 11.1 lol so good luck with scraps.

FF (fun fact), Final Fantasy XV uses Directx 11.2 and is being developed on PC and Xbox One before its port to PS4 LOL.

bahaha just like how lemmings were claiming Direct3d tile resources were exclusive to DirectX 11.2, AMD has had that on their GPUS for the longest time, DirectX is overrated and is a system hog
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[QUOTE="BlackShirt20"]

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] http://www.geek.com/games/sony-iimprove-directx-11-for-the-ps4-blu-ray-1544364/

 

not only can the PS4 provide the same feature sets of DX11, it has its own tricks up its sleeves that the One doesnt have

xboxiphoneps3

Its there version of Directx 11.1 that has never been proven......mean while DirectX 11.2 is light years ahead of 11.1 lol so good luck with scraps.

 

FF (fun fact), Final Fantasy XV uses Directx 11.2 and is being developed on PC and Xbox One before its port to PS4 LOL.

bahaha just like how lemmings were claiming Direct3d tile resources were exclusive to DirectX 11.2, AMD has had that on their GPUS for the longest time, DirectX is overrated and is a system hog

xbots dont have a clue about hardware, software or programming, that is very clear just by looking at the dumb things they write.

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so x1=your opinion, PS4=actual fact

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[QUOTE="BlackShirt20"]

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] http://www.geek.com/games/sony-iimprove-directx-11-for-the-ps4-blu-ray-1544364/

not only can the PS4 provide the same feature sets of DX11, it has its own tricks up its sleeves that the One doesnt have

xboxiphoneps3

Its there version of Directx 11.1 that has never been proven......mean while DirectX 11.2 is light years ahead of 11.1 lol so good luck with scraps.

FF (fun fact), Final Fantasy XV uses Directx 11.2 and is being developed on PC and Xbox One before its port to PS4 LOL.

bahaha just like how lemmings were claiming Direct3d tile resources were exclusive to DirectX 11.2, AMD has had that on their GPUS for the longest time, DirectX is overrated and is a system hog

Still does not change the fact that the PS4 is not made to run Dirext X 11.2 The thing most fanboys here are missing the most is that the PS4 is made for developers with an advanced ecosystem to create games, and these include indies. For running games, the PS4 focuses more on raw output, this is why it's harder to get games to run at a better frame rate and so on, without taking a longer time to manually adjust the programming. Xbox One games are further from the completion Cycle, while Sony is further ahead, yet they can put out games running at better frame rates, with a few exception of course. This is because the Dev Kits are optimized for output, just like the 360 was, which is not that much harder to develop for than the PS4 or Xboxone. When a game is being programmed for the Xbox One and soon PC, and not ported, the game is optimized specifically for the hardware, and will use most of the hardwares potential. Does that mean that the Xbox One will have better Graphics than the PS$? That depends on what we see during launch when complete games are finished. But it is very possible, just like it's possible that the PS4's Raw output could be enough to win regardless, we won't know until later.
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Microsoft's game did not win Best of Show. It was a cross-platform game. ;)
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[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="BlackShirt20"]Its there version of Directx 11.1 that has never been proven......mean while DirectX 11.2 is light years ahead of 11.1 lol so good luck with scraps.

FF (fun fact), Final Fantasy XV uses Directx 11.2 and is being developed on PC and Xbox One before its port to PS4 LOL.

The4thVIII
bahaha just like how lemmings were claiming Direct3d tile resources were exclusive to DirectX 11.2, AMD has had that on their GPUS for the longest time, DirectX is overrated and is a system hog

Still does not change the fact that the PS4 is not made to run Dirext X 11.2 The thing most fanboys here are missing the most is that the PS4 is made for developers with an advanced ecosystem to create games, and these include indies. For running games, the PS4 focuses more on raw output, this is why it's harder to get games to run at a better frame rate and so on, without taking a longer time to manually adjust the programming. Xbox One games are further from the completion Cycle, while Sony is further ahead, yet they can put out games running at better frame rates, with a few exception of course. This is because the Dev Kits are optimized for output, just like the 360 was, which is not that much harder to develop for than the PS4 or Xboxone. When a game is being programmed for the Xbox One and soon PC, and not ported, the game is optimized specifically for the hardware, and will use most of the hardwares potential. Does that mean that the Xbox One will have better Graphics than the PS$? That depends on what we see during launch when complete games are finished. But it is very possible, just like it's possible that the PS4's Raw output could be enough to win regardless, we won't know until later.

what are you talking about, ps4's dev kits/tools are months ahead of the xbox one dev kits/tools. Sony will always stay ahead in that department next generation due to the easier architecture to develop for then the setup Xboner has. Dead rising 3 was running at 15 fps and didnt even look good, so now they have to lower graphical assets and fidelity of DR3 to get the frame rates to be stable titanfall struggles to run at 60 fps and it has 3x less graphical assets then KZ SF and other games
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#91 BlackShirt20
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Microsoft's game did not win Best of Show. It was a cross-platform game. ;)CrownedClownAg

The jealousy is wonderful!

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[QUOTE="Baurus_1"]

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] first of all data move engines do absolutely nothing for performance so stop acting like you know what your talking about.

 

The ESram doesnt do much because the xbone gpu has less hardware, 6 less CU's, 16 less ROPS, less TMU's, less ACES, 

fewer CPU cores available for games

less ram available for games

no on board ARM SoC to deal with background stuff

 

 

 

The Sorcerer real tech demo running in real time on a PS4 blows every single thing out the water that Xbox One had to show graphically

Infamous graphics are better then anything shown at Xbox E3 by a long shot, Xbox One GPU has 12 CU's, 16 ROPS while the PS4 has 18 CU's and 32 ROPS along with a onboard ARM SoC, which the Xbox One doesnt have the ps4 also has more ram available for games then the Xbox One... stop being delusional, nothing showed at Xbox e3 looked graphically impressive at all, not even pre baked lighting, poor physics, static backgrounds Forza 5. lemms are butthurt they got the weakest next gen console bahahahaha

22Toothpicks

Sorry, but your post is wrong. 4 DMEs and ES RAM, on the Xbox One, matters a lot. It can bridge the supposed gap between the Xbox One and PS4. Also, the Xbox One has much better DirectX support and that can make a big difference in games too. Most likely, graphics will be extremely similar on both consoles to the point of being indistinguishable.

nm I'm not going to comment on the hardware side of things as it's not my forte but MS has DirectX support because it's their own graphic API Why the fvck would Sony be using it? PS4 uses OpenGL, I'm sure.

You're sure... really... I guess you need to check out these links.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-inside-playstation-4

http://www.geek.com/games/sony-iimprove-directx-11-for-the-ps4-blu-ray-1544364/

"Developers will be able to take advantage of Microsofts latest industry standardDirectX API DirectX 11.1, but Sony has taken the time to improve upon it, pushing the feature set beyond what is available for PC games development."

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[QUOTE="TheEroica"]

 

 

Dude, please stop...

tormentos

 

szztqb.jpg

 

The closes thing to Infamous on xbox one is Quantum Fake.

The pic and the comment that follows is too good to be true...

PS... that dude looks like Butch from Fallout 3

butch

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[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="The4thVIII"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] bahaha just like how lemmings were claiming Direct3d tile resources were exclusive to DirectX 11.2, AMD has had that on their GPUS for the longest time, DirectX is overrated and is a system hog

Still does not change the fact that the PS4 is not made to run Dirext X 11.2 The thing most fanboys here are missing the most is that the PS4 is made for developers with an advanced ecosystem to create games, and these include indies. For running games, the PS4 focuses more on raw output, this is why it's harder to get games to run at a better frame rate and so on, without taking a longer time to manually adjust the programming. Xbox One games are further from the completion Cycle, while Sony is further ahead, yet they can put out games running at better frame rates, with a few exception of course. This is because the Dev Kits are optimized for output, just like the 360 was, which is not that much harder to develop for than the PS4 or Xboxone. When a game is being programmed for the Xbox One and soon PC, and not ported, the game is optimized specifically for the hardware, and will use most of the hardwares potential. Does that mean that the Xbox One will have better Graphics than the PS$? That depends on what we see during launch when complete games are finished. But it is very possible, just like it's possible that the PS4's Raw output could be enough to win regardless, we won't know until later.

what are you talking about, ps4's dev kits/tools are months ahead of the xbox one dev kits/tools. Sony will always stay ahead in that department next generation due to the easier architecture to develop for then the setup Xboner has. Dead rising 3 was running at 15 fps and didnt even look good, so now they have to lower graphical assets and fidelity of DR3 to get the frame rates to be stable titanfall struggles to run at 60 fps and it has 3x less graphical assets then KZ SF and other games

The Xbox One set-Up is easier than the 360 which is praised as being excellent to work with. The PS4 Dev kits being even easier does not change anything. Dead Rising 3 is one of the "exceptions" I was talking about, all other games are running at higher frame rates than PS4 games even though PS4 games are ahead of schedule. The PS4 dev kits are easier, its game running output is not, while the Xbox One focuses on optimizing games to get similar results in both developing and while the game is running. MS is not lowering any assets either,
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#96 Chris_Williams
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can't wait till naughty dog premieres their ps4 title then all the slighty better hardware people will shut up

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#97 TheEroica  Moderator
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can't wait till naughty dog premieres their ps4 title then all the slighty better hardware people will shut up

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I doubt people will shut up... the only reason people talk graphics on X1 and PS4 is the same reason why they talked on 360 and PS3. The graphics are indistinguishable. Thats why PC gamers dont get caught in too many graphics wars, because there is a clear advantage on PC... expect the next 5-10 years to be a wasteland of "bu bu bu teh foliage!" threads... Instead of just accepting that the two consoles will look identical, it will be endless bickering over the most insignificant details of shit no one really cares about....
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[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]

[QUOTE="BlackShirt20"]the PS4 cannot use directx. The Xbox One can use Directx 11.2 fully.

BlackShirt20

http://www.geek.com/games/sony-iimprove-directx-11-for-the-ps4-blu-ray-1544364/

not only can the PS4 provide the same feature sets of DX11, it has its own tricks up its sleeves that the One doesnt have

Its there version of Directx 11.1 that has never been proven......mean while DirectX 11.2 is light years ahead of 11.1 lol so good luck with scraps.

FF (fun fact), Final Fantasy XV uses Directx 11.2 and is being developed on PC and Xbox One before its port to PS4 LOL.

lol where did u come up with this rumor from
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#99 NetGod
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Sony might be able to compete with MS someday far in the future if they can manage to keep their online service up without crashing or getting hacked all the time.