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#51 RedentSC
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Didn't MS say they were gonna "re-introduce" the xbox at Gamescon? 

 

Off to a brilliant start with their PR facelift then..... moneys, monkeys work at that place i sware

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#52 ShadowriverUB
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]Doesn't it automatically upload all your recordings to the cloud? If so, makes sense. :cool:MightyMuna

No. Just like PS4, it's stored on your HDD. As for streaming, it uses Twitch servers or cloud (seeing as that's no one calls them servers anymore). PS4 uses U Stream

Not exacly, PS4 stores last 15 minutes of video which you can upload somewhere (YouTube or Facebook)
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#53 RedentSC
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That should read 'Monkeys, monkeys works in that place i sware" but i'm gonna leave the typo in as its quite revelent i find xD

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#54 SaltyMeatballs
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I looked at the page and it never said that you would not be able to do this with out xbl gold and it doesnt make since to me if it does.

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You mean besides recording being listed as an "XBL Gold feature" on xbox.com?
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#55 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="MightyMuna"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]Doesn't it automatically upload all your recordings to the cloud? If so, makes sense. :cool:ShadowriverUB

No. Just like PS4, it's stored on your HDD. As for streaming, it uses Twitch servers or cloud (seeing as that's no one calls them servers anymore). PS4 uses U Stream

Not exacly, PS4 stores last 15 minutes of video which you can upload somewhere (YouTube or Facebook)

Side note apparently Xbox One only records 5 minutes. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-07-22-xbox-one-records-the-last-five-minutes-of-your-gameplay
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#56 LordOfPoms
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How stupid can MS be? Uploading video is free advertising for your games...
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#57 LordOfPoms
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[QUOTE="MightyMuna"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]Doesn't it automatically upload all your recordings to the cloud? If so, makes sense. :cool:ShadowriverUB

No. Just like PS4, it's stored on your HDD. As for streaming, it uses Twitch servers or cloud (seeing as that's no one calls them servers anymore). PS4 uses U Stream

Not exacly, PS4 stores last 15 minutes of video which you can upload somewhere (YouTube or Facebook)

Or PlayStation Network, since that's where 99% of videos will be uploaded.
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="MightyMuna"] No. Just like PS4, it's stored on your HDD. As for streaming, it uses Twitch servers or cloud (seeing as that's no one calls them servers anymore). PS4 uses U Stream

SaltyMeatballs

No, I believe it also automatically uploads your recordings to the cloud as well. Nothing to do with twitch, thats for streaming.

You believe? Give a link.

Here you go cow kiddie.

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/08/05/ask-microsoft-anything-about-xbox-one

Will the Game DVR capture at the source resolution? i.e. will Forza 5 clips capture at 1080p and 60fps? And where can Game DVR clips be uploaded to?

WHITTEN: Game DVR captures beautiful clips at 720p 30fps. The first thing youll see with our game DVR is the integration of our Upload service on the console. This service allows you to manage, edit, and share your content. Your clips are stored in the cloud.Also, youll see games making magic moment videos of your gameplay based on the game DVR functionality all seamlessly integrated. Youll be able to see these clips in the Xbox One Guide, in your own game DVR collection, and when you are looking at gamercards on the system. Youll also see games take advantage of this platform capability and do interesting things to integrate captured game footage into the game experience itself.

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#59 ShadowriverUB
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[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"][QUOTE="MightyMuna"] No. Just like PS4, it's stored on your HDD. As for streaming, it uses Twitch servers or cloud (seeing as that's no one calls them servers anymore). PS4 uses U StreamLordOfPoms
Not exacly, PS4 stores last 15 minutes of video which you can upload somewhere (YouTube or Facebook)

Or PlayStation Network, since that's where 99% of videos will be uploaded.

Are you sure about it? Link? :p you know fact that video show up in social stream on PSN doesn't mean it not hosted on YouTube or Facebook
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#60 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]No, I believe it also automatically uploads your recordings to the cloud as well. Nothing to do with twitch, thats for streaming. deangallop

You believe? Give a link.

Here you go cow kiddie.

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/08/05/ask-microsoft-anything-about-xbox-one

Will the Game DVR capture at the source resolution? i.e. will Forza 5 clips capture at 1080p and 60fps? And where can Game DVR clips be uploaded to?

WHITTEN: Game DVR captures beautiful clips at 720p 30fps. The first thing youll see with our game DVR is the integration of our Upload service on the console. This service allows you to manage, edit, and share your content. Your clips are stored in the cloud.Also, youll see games making magic moment videos of your gameplay based on the game DVR functionality all seamlessly integrated. Youll be able to see these clips in the Xbox One Guide, in your own game DVR collection, and when you are looking at gamercards on the system. Youll also see games take advantage of this platform capability and do interesting things to integrate captured game footage into the game experience itself.

I know it's hard but this is when you then use your brain and ask why XBL Silver can't just upload to Youtube/twitch/etc but not the Xbox cloud? Would be simple solution, but it's just another one of those cases of Microsoft putting shit behind the XBL Gold paywall and their drones spinning and giving excuses for everything.

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[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"][QUOTE="tdkmillsy"][QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"] They won't, because recorded video sits inside your console and it uploaded to 3rd party service, this also includes streaming which is powered by Ustream. Sony does not take any cost here. Why MS order to pay for this? For same reason why need to pay for viewing websites.... for BS (thru in this case they host videos so i guess that good excus, but streaming is powered by twitch so no excuse here)

They will, either now or in a few years time, just like they did for PSN+.

For your information, they only locked multiplayer behind PSN+ (which is unfair thing as i bet it will also involve 3rd party servers that Sony don't pay for... or else Sony shere the money then yes it might be ok) and not to all games. If you didn't notice (And most people don't thats why MS continues this bullshit), MS blocks under gold services that are free to any device connected to internet... including website browsing (oh come on), blocking pracicly 95% internet usability of device that technically is able to use those services for free. If Xbox Live Gold would be physical thing it would be this:  Between your router and console.... yes YOUR router and YOUR console inside you house without your ISP and those 3rd party services even involved, this is software level block, thats how bullshitty it is. Sony doing non of that other then this controversial multiplayer which is still liter of what MS is doing I was only one saying baout htis before next gen was annouce but no body cared..... and lems been so happy about it. IMO this is worse then there past DRM polices, they not blocking access to there propety.... thye blocking access to services avable for free thru your internet cable that alll you need is right software which you can even code for yourself on PC.... actully it might be reason why MS tried to push this DRM as people been fooled with this worse BS.

blah blah blah Sony charging for multiplayer is a good thing blah blah blah. that about the jist of it?
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#63 mitu123
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Doesn't matter since you can you external capture cards so I'll be using my Roxio for 1080p!

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Think about how bad this is...

1. The console is restricting RAM to the DVR feature, whether you use it or not. So developers are forced to ignore those RAM banks when making games, even if the gamers don't want to use the DVR OR get Xbox Gold.

2. Gamers who only want to play Singleplayer games now have a feature taken away from them unless they pay extra for the XBL Gold crap.

If Sony follows suit, then they are just as shameful. Hopefully they won't and this will force Microsoft to once again FLIP-FLOP at the anger of the gaming community.

 

Microsoft is making so many bad decisions lately. I hope Sony takes advanatage of their greed again and tells everyone that the DVR is free for everyone to use.

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Doesn't matter since you can you external capture cards so I'll be using my Roxio for 1080p!

mitu123

It does matter since the console reserves RAM for the internal DVR, whether you use it or not. Dev Kits probably have RAM disabled on them to take that into account too, just like it does for Kinect, even if people don't ever want to use the Kinect.

 

It's flat-out price-gouging and resource wasting.

 

They're forcing people to get XBL GOLD, rather than allocating more RAM for developers to use in their games.

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#67 MHzBurglar
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Doesn't matter since you can you external capture cards so I'll be using my Roxio for 1080p!

mitu123

"Video output through HDMI on the Xbox One is now part of our ever-growing Xbox Live Gold feature set and will be available only to Xbox Live Gold Subscribers.  We hope that you will enjoy this and the many other premium features and exclusive benefits that Xbox Live Gold has to offer."

--Some MS executive in a couple of weeks

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#68 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Doesn't matter since you can you external capture cards so I'll be using my Roxio for 1080p!

Netherscourge

It does matter since the console reserves RAM for the internal DVR, whether you use it or not. Dev Kits probably have RAM disabled on them to take that into account too, just like it does for Kinect, even if people don't ever want to use the Kinect.

 

It's flat-out price-gouging and resource wasting.

I don't approve of being forced to use Xbox Live Gold just to record from the console itself, but since I'll never use it and rather use my Roxio it doesn't matter to me.

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#69 dream431ca
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Uh Oh!

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Live#features

Want to use guide to watch TV? XBOX LIVE required!!

Want to watch NFL? XBOX LIVE required!!

Want to Skype? XBOX LIVE required!!

Major :lol:

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#70 kingtito
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Uh Oh!

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Live#features

Want to use guide to watch TV? XBOX LIVE required!!

Want to watch NFL? XBOX LIVE required!!

Want to Skype? XBOX LIVE required!!

Major :lol:

How is that new? Want to play multiplayer on PS4, pay for PS+, you know something that we said we'd never charge for.
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#71 stereointegrity
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Id think same thing for cows so not big news..... does sony ever come out with any news first?   Lol

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all free to play games are not behind a pay wall... all internet streaming services are not behind a pay wall why would game recording be behind a pay wall....
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#72 tonitorsi
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Well since I have this thing called a JOB I don't have a problem paying for premium features. I really think some of you have entirely too much time in your day to devote to digging up anti-XBOX One material. If you don't like it or don't want it then DONT BUY IT!!! Millions of us will buy it and will love it! Trust me when I say the PS4 is not a perfect console either and there will be things that will come out sooner or later!!ShoTTyMcNaDeS
Well since I have this thing called a JOB I don't have a problem paying for premium features. I really think some of you have entirely too much time in your day to devote to digging up anti-XBOX One material. If you don't like it or don't want it then DONT BUY IT!!! Millions of us will buy it and will love it! Trust me when I say the PS4 is not a perfect console either and there will be things that will come out sooner or later!!ShoTTyMcNaDeS

Dat asshurt tho 

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#73 tormentos
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Well since I have this thing called a JOB I don't have a problem paying for premium features. I really think some of you have entirely too much time in your day to devote to digging up anti-XBOX One material. If you don't like it or don't want it then DONT BUY IT!!! Millions of us will buy it and will love it! Trust me when I say the PS4 is not a perfect console either and there will be things that will come out sooner or later!!ShoTTyMcNaDeS

 

I have a thing called job to,doesn't mean i like to trow my money away,especially on features free every where else..:lol:

 

So much damage controls on this post.

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#74 kingtito
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[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]Well since I have this thing called a JOB I don't have a problem paying for premium features. I really think some of you have entirely too much time in your day to devote to digging up anti-XBOX One material. If you don't like it or don't want it then DONT BUY IT!!! Millions of us will buy it and will love it! Trust me when I say the PS4 is not a perfect console either and there will be things that will come out sooner or later!!tormentos

 

I have a thing called job to,doesn't manm i liek to trow my money away,especially on features free every where else..:lol:

 

So much damage controls on this post.

So you won't be paying for PS+ then? Since all you're getting for it is online multiplayer.
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#75 tormentos
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Uh Oh!

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Live#features

Want to use guide to watch TV? XBOX LIVE required!!

Want to watch NFL? XBOX LIVE required!!

Want to Skype? XBOX LIVE required!!

Major :lol:

kingtito

How is that new? Want to play multiplayer on PS4, pay for PS+, you know something that we said we'd never charge for.

 

I already pay for PSN+ so how does that affect me.?

 

Charging for online play is a stinking rip off,but a lemming speaking of this is highly hypocrite you people had been paying for 11 years and counting,at least most of the features on PS4 still are free including free to play game which on xbox one can't be call that way since you have to pay for xbox live to be able to use those..:lol:

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#76 tormentos
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So you won't be paying for PS+ then? Since all you're getting for it is online multiplayer.kingtito

 

You get PSN+ discount and games at no extra charge on xbox.? since when.?

 

Because i already have PSN+ since online is free on PS3 i am paying for the discounts and games,i don't like paying for online play is a rip off,but i am a PSN+ user so i am already in,and i get my money back and them some,which i could say that about xbox live which has been ripping people off for 11 years.

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#77 kingtito
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[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Uh Oh!

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Live#features

Want to use guide to watch TV? XBOX LIVE required!!

Want to watch NFL? XBOX LIVE required!!

Want to Skype? XBOX LIVE required!!

Major :lol:

tormentos

How is that new? Want to play multiplayer on PS4, pay for PS+, you know something that we said we'd never charge for.

I already pay for PSN+ so how does that affect me.?

Charging for online play is a stinking rip off,but a lemming speaking of this is highly hypocrite you people had been paying for 11 years and counting,at least most of the features on PS4 still are free including free to play game which on xbox one can't be call that way since you have to pay for xbox live to be able to use those..:lol:

Didn't you say you wouldn't be throwing money away?

Lems aren't hypocrites, they're pointing out the hypocracy from cows claiming they'd NEVER p2p online. Almost every single hard core cow said lems were being ripped off and laughed all the while saying Sony would never charge for p2p online. Now all of a sudden it's fine "because we get free games" that are paid for.

Sounds like hypocriticle speak to me.

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#78 tormentos
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blah blah blah Sony charging for multiplayer is a good thing blah blah blah. that about the jist of it?WilliamRLBaker

 

Sony charging for online play is horrible,but since you are OK with paying for online play and use to get nothing but been allow to use what other already use for free then i think it should not bother you.

 

Me yes it does bother i will not pay for online play,but the problem is i have PSN+ already so i am already in and even that i don't like paying for online play when i pay for PSN+ i would be paying for it either way.

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Didn't you say you wouldn't be throwing money away?

Lems aren't hypocrites, they're pointing out the hypocracy from cows claiming they'd NEVER p2p online. Almost every single hard core cow said lems were being ripped off and laughed all the while saying Sony would never charge for p2p online. Now all of a sudden it's fine "because we get free games" that are paid for.

Sounds like hypocriticle speak to me.

kingtito

 

Apparently you confuse Live with PSN+ let me break it down for you.

 

Live = $60 dollars for online play and access to apps that are free every where else.

PSN+ = $50 dollars for a discount service think Cotsco or Sams,and you get several games a month no extra charge which you can keep as long as you pay,you also get avatars,thems and many things that use to go from a dollar to 3 on xbox live.

 

Live = you will never ever get what you pay for,since everything it does is free else where.

PSN+ = The more you buy the more you save,at big as 50%,in a year you will get way more in value than the $50 you invested.

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[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Uh Oh!

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Live#features

Want to use guide to watch TV? XBOX LIVE required!!

Want to watch NFL? XBOX LIVE required!!

Want to Skype? XBOX LIVE required!!

Major :lol:

How is that new? Want to play multiplayer on PS4, pay for PS+, you know something that we said we'd never charge for.

5 bucks a month online only though :lol:
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#81 mitu123
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[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Uh Oh!

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Live#features

Want to use guide to watch TV? XBOX LIVE required!!

Want to watch NFL? XBOX LIVE required!!

Want to Skype? XBOX LIVE required!!

Major :lol:

xboxiphoneps3

How is that new? Want to play multiplayer on PS4, pay for PS+, you know something that we said we'd never charge for.

5 bucks a month online only though :lol:

Same for Xbox Live Gold since you can get it for 50 bucks off Amazon.

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#82 kingtito
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[QUOTE="kingtito"]So you won't be paying for PS+ then? Since all you're getting for it is online multiplayer.tormentos

You get PSN+ discount and games at no extra charge on xbox.? since when.?

Because i already have PSN+ since online is free on PS3 i am paying for the discounts and games,i don't like paying for online play is a rip off,but i am a PSN+ user so i am already in,and i get my money back and them some,which i could say that about xbox live which has been ripping people off for 11 years.

You get discounts on Live from what i hear. I really don't know because I don't pay for live nor do I pay for PS+. I didn't agree with p2p online that's why i dont pay. I game on my computer 90% of the time and don't have to pay for anything plus i get discounts from Steam.

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#83 kingtito
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[QUOTE="kingtito"]

Didn't you say you wouldn't be throwing money away?

Lems aren't hypocrites, they're pointing out the hypocracy from cows claiming they'd NEVER p2p online. Almost every single hard core cow said lems were being ripped off and laughed all the while saying Sony would never charge for p2p online. Now all of a sudden it's fine "because we get free games" that are paid for.

Sounds like hypocriticle speak to me.

tormentos

Apparently you confuse Live with PSN+ let me break it down for you.

Live = $60dollars for online play and access to apps that are free every where else.

PSN+ = $50dollars for a discount service think Cotsco or Sams,and you get several games a month no extra charge which you can keep as long as you pay,you also get avatars,thems and many things that use to go from a dollar to 3 on xbox live.

Live = you will never ever get what you pay for,since everything it does is free else where.

PSN+ = The more you buy the more you save,at big as 50%,in a year you will get way more in value than the $50 you invested.

You can get 12 month cards for way cheaper than $60. Try again

Did Sony confirm PSN+ fees for the PS4?

Value is subjective and in no way a fact. You may find value, others may not.

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#84 tormentos
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You get discounts on Live from what i hear. I really don't know because I don't pay for live nor do I pay for PS+. I didn't agree with p2p online that's why i dont pay. I game on my computer 90% of the time and don't have to pay for anything plus i get discounts from Steam.

kingtito

 

You also get discoutn with normal PSN.

 

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#85 tormentos
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You can get 12 month cards for way cheaper than $60. Try again

Did Sony confirm PSN+ fees for the PS4?

Value is subjective and in no way a fact. You may find value, others may not.

kingtito

 

You can get PSN cards with discount to.

PSN+ is $50 and not once sony has say other number.

 

Value is subjective my ass..

 

VF final was release last year on summer on xbox live it was $15 on PSN+ it was nothing.

So yeah values like that spank xbox live,that mean on VF alone i already made $15 dollars back from the $50 i spend how much live users got back from gold on that game.?

Oh and that happen when the game came out and was fresh.

PSN+ it to much value for xbox live gold as it is now to compete for it,even if you don't get always the newest games still far out do xbox live gold in savings,oh DLC also get huge discounts to.

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#86 ziggyww
Member since 2012 • 907 Posts

[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="MightyMuna"] No. Just like PS4, it's stored on your HDD. As for streaming, it uses Twitch servers or cloud (seeing as that's no one calls them servers anymore). PS4 uses U Stream

dream431ca

No, I believe it also automatically uploads your recordings to the cloud as well. Nothing to do with twitch, thats for streaming.

Link?

It's got to be uploaded to twitch how would you then expect to stream it from twitch if you don't upload it to twitch? This is just another thing hidden behind their pay wall and its disgusting.
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#87 tionmedon
Member since 2006 • 468 Posts

ms is trying to get rid of silver members..