Xbox One(gaming) vs PS4(Online) , Hour Wars?

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#51 LJS9502_basic
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@sts106mat said:

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Maybe those who have a PS4 are adults with jobs and families....

yeah, sure you'd be posting that if the figures were the other way around....

Ah but you cannot form conclusions based solely on hours played as that ignores other factors which influence. Which is my point and why this thread is garbage no matter who created it or why.

Also is this not solely online gaming? If it ignores single player than it's even more of a train wreck.

if by "online" you mean connected to :Live/PSN then yes. If you mean multiplayer gaming, then no, i highly doubt that. I believe they would have said "multiplayer gaming" if they had figures for that.

Ah so you don't know then....

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#52 Heil68
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OP debunked and SDC remains intact.

Carry on TC and always remember to Live, Learn and most importantly, Love.

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#54  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@sts106mat said:

no, only Sony & MS do. but in the past I am pretty sure they have shown stats like that separate.

Since you dodged it, I'll ask again.....Do you deny you'd have posted the same sentence had the numbers been the other way round?

Sure if some fool was making a big deal out of something without correlation. Unlike you I just want to play games. I generally buy all the consoles.....this gen it depends on MS giving me something I can't get on PC, PS4.....

Not everybody is a fan boy....

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#55  Edited By Midnightshade29
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@SolidTy: I love your replies. Always bringing logic to the uneducated system wars masses. Keep it up!

What's crazy is that some lemmings here will still boast about the stats in their favor not reading the vital key that compares online game play to game play in general. Either because the don't like reading or are just sore looser and can't admit they were wrong, misinformed etc...

Also we do not know if the xbone includes watching TV as gaming. It wouldn't surprise me as can't you get achievements for watching shows on xbone?

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#57 APiranhaAteMyVa
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The PS4 has no games.

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#58  Edited By valhallix
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Wouldn't be surprising. Unless you like MMO's (FFXIV) there's not much on the PS4. It doesn't have that star shooter. Killzone pales in comparison to TitanFall. Its big sandbox was overhyped but failed to deliver more than the usual (Infamous). Resogun was probably one of the best titles. I lol'd at the guy who called Infamous campaign quality. It was tripe, tripe we've played twice before. They did nothing new at all. They reskinned his powers, and every single one of them acts just like electricity did. The whole game you're fighting incompotent soldiers with terrible AI who can be taken down by a single chain whip. Its city is still empty, still lifeless. Only thing i'd say I liked was its graphics. Other than that as a game? Sunset Overdrive destroys pretty easily. Funny thing is Sunset Overdrive doesn't take itself seriously yet it still has more interesting characters than any in Second Son.

Games are supposed to be fun. Seems Xbox One is getting most of the fun titles. While PS4 continues to get try hard exclusives that don't deliver. Killzone & Infamous both were rehashed crap we've played last generation. Again i'm hyping Bloodborne atleast but The Order looks just like yet another "cinematic" on rails PS exclusive that I am so sick of. Forget all these QTE games we can barely play through GIVE US FUN GAMES.

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#59  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@sts106mat said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@sts106mat said:

no, only Sony & MS do. but in the past I am pretty sure they have shown stats like that separate.

Since you dodged it, I'll ask again.....Do you deny you'd have posted the same sentence had the numbers been the other way round?

Sure if some fool was making a big deal out of something without correlation. Unlike you I just want to play games. I generally buy all the consoles.....this gen it depends on MS giving me something I can't get on PC, PS4.....

Not everybody is a fan boy....

haha, i own both consoles robert, I too just want to play games. you posted a fanboy comment, now claim to not be a fanboy lolol

No I refuted a poorly constructed argument.....only a fan boy would think it was a fan boy comment dude.

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#60 donalbane
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@BigBadBully said:

So i just read both companies statistics for year one(using the articles on the gamespot homepage which details the statistics) What jumped out to me was the hours spent gaming. Despite falling

behind PS4 in sales and userbase, the Xbox One accounted for more hours spent gaming over The PS4 by 1 billion. We all know the PS4 is superior and the multiplats run better, why aren't people gaming more on the PS4? You would think the PS4 would easily dominate the Xbox One in the category of gaming hours.

Live is better than PSN (more people picked up Destiny for the One despite Sony's exclusivity deal, for instance) thanks largely to the superior headset, dedicated servers and higher quality chat. So there's that.

Also, if you have a gaming PC (as I do) and buy multiplats on your PC, I found myself playing more, higher quality exclusives on the One in the first year. This is debatable and subject to opinion, but I haven't used my PS4 since TLOU, and so I most likely won't use the PS4 again until The Order.

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#62 LJS9502_basic
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@sts106mat:

LOL spoken like fan boy....

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#64  Edited By MikeHockbourns
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@sts106mat said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@sts106mat said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

Maybe those who have a PS4 are adults with jobs and families....

yeah, sure you'd be posting that if the figures were the other way around....

Ah but you cannot form conclusions based solely on hours played as that ignores other factors which influence. Which is my point and why this thread is garbage no matter who created it or why.

Also is this not solely online gaming? If it ignores single player than it's even more of a train wreck.

if by "online" you mean connected to :Live/PSN then yes. If you mean multiplayer gaming, then no, i highly doubt that. I believe they would have said "multiplayer gaming" if they had figures for that.

the excuses that people come up with to try and defend their purchases is too funny. fact is xbox one was played more despite having less people playing it and I'm not surprised. almost every thread has someone in it that says "I haven't turned on my ps4 in a month" or "my ps4 is has been collecting dust".

I'm sure ps4 will get interesting games next year but lets be honest here, it did not have any big name interesting exclusives this entire year.

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#65  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@mikehockbourns: It might shock you to know that SW isn't the entire world....

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#66  Edited By MikeHockbourns
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@LJS9502_basic said:

@mikehockbourns: It might shock you to know that SW isn't the entire world....

ofcoarse not.

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#67 LJS9502_basic
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@mikehockbourns said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@mikehockbourns: It might shock you to know that SW isn't the entire world....

ofcoarse not.

Then why use it as if it matters?

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@LJS9502_basic said:

@mikehockbourns said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@mikehockbourns: It might shock you to know that SW isn't the entire world....

ofcoarse not.

Then why use it as if it matters?

use what? whatever I use it matters because its there.

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#69  Edited By SolidTy
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@Midnightshade29 said:

@SolidTy: I love your replies. Always bringing logic to the uneducated system wars masses. Keep it up!

What's crazy is that some lemmings here will still boast about the stats in their favor not reading the vital key that compares online game play to game play in general. Either because the don't like reading or are just sore looser and can't admit they were wrong, misinformed etc...

Also we do not know if the xbone includes watching TV as gaming. It wouldn't surprise me as can't you get achievements for watching shows on xbone?

Thank you. It's a jumbled mess of PR to be taken with a grain of salt.

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#70  Edited By RedentSC
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oh Christ the stupidity (intentional i might add) of the butt hurt lems in here is unreal. grasping at straws just doesn't cover it.

"Hours playing games" = Hours playing games

"hours playing online" = Hours playing online. Not "hours playing while the console is online" or "hours played in single player while the console is online" no ,,, just "hours playing online". you know... like hours playing a game ACTUALLY online. You ain't playing online if you are playing an offline game.. that's why they said "online".... because its online.......... Anyone who can't grasp this basic English should just lease this thread immediately

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#71 LJS9502_basic
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@RedentSC: Pst...you might want to fix your typo considering your last sentence....

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@funkmaster1233 said:

What a pathetic stat for Playstation. Doesn't the PS4 have some pretty popular MMOs?

who would play mmos on a console though

sooner or later you switch to PC although DCUO an exception imo

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@darkangel115: They said 1 billion hours online. There is no possible way to track hours on a single player game. And offline play is where the PS4 would have more hours. It's amazing watching Xbots grasp to such a worthless made up statistic.

no possible way to track SP games? lol are you kidding? look at saves files even going back to the 360/PS3 and most games will tell you hours played on that file. skyrim is a perfect example. Of course they can track hours played internally, the console just needs to report back the hours once its connected to the internet.

Also based on your logic (which is incorrect) the the XB1 numbers would be online only and you'd actually be proving the OPs post as true ;) think before you post my friend ;)

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@papatrop said:

The reason for low gameplay hours is because PS4 gamers spend their hours here on System Wars comparing the amount of grass in their video games.

Playing games is for casuals.

LMAO, line of the year!

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#75 YD_11
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Looks to be slightly different statistics being compared. But the Xbox one does have a higher attach rate for games bought than the ps4 if I'm not mistaken.

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#76  Edited By Scipio8
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More proof that PS4 has no games...so sad for cows

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@darkangel115: I wouldn't be proving the op post true because the majority of there statistics are just bullshit. Sony didn't report SP hours. And Considering the PS4 has almost double the install base to think X1 owners would have to spend double the time to manage more hours. Not to mention every multiplats has sold better on the PS4. So you are saying XB1 players are playing mostly the same games two times more then PS4 owner's.

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@darkangel115: I wouldn't be proving the op post true because the majority of there statistics are just bullshit. Sony didn't report SP hours. And Considering the PS4 has almost double the install base to think X1 owners would have to spend double the time to manage more hours. Not to mention every multiplats has sold better on the PS4. So you are saying XB1 players are playing mostly the same games two times more then PS4 owner's.

lol so many holes in your argument

1) you said that there is no way to track SP hours (which is wrong BTW) but if it was right, then yes you are proving it true because then both numbers would count MP only

2) calling the stats BS, is a cop out. you basically just said that sony and MS are lying. That doesn't help any point you are trying to prove

3) we don't know if it's double the install base, its more yes could be double, we don't know for sure.

4) sales =/= time played. anecdotal as it is, like i joked about earlier i have over 500 hours in my XB1 and only a few maybe 10-15 on my PS4. one person could play his console more then 5 others of the other console combined.

5) has it? cause its been seeming about even, what about time played in exclusives. wasn't titanfall one of the most played online games this year? I know its not exclusive for SW purposes, but for these stats, surely it had an impact.

6) i'm not saying anything, except that it is surely possible that people are just spending more time on XB1 then PS4 even if PS4 has better sales.

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The main difference is Sony never claimed total gaming hours , MS did. As many people that use it online you would be surprised how many would never connect it after the first update . There would be no way to track it unless they go online again. I own both consoles and I've spent 10x more time on my PS4 as I simply own more games on PS4. I could see that being the trend since all multiplats sell significantly better on PS.

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#80 LJS9502_basic
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@Scipio8 said:

More proof that PS4 has no games...so sad for cows

So sad you didn't read....

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#81  Edited By RedentSC
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@LJS9502_basic: Ohhhhh so no comment on the meat of my statement just a sly little symantic dig ... typical lem really

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#82 FoxbatAlpha
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I believe it. There are more satisfied gamers on Xbox and we all know it has games.

PS4 serving up more fail than greatness.

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#83  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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Because "sales" is the best game cows have right now.

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#84 Malta_1980
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so its HoursWars now ?? hhhhmmm

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@FoxbatAlpha said:

I believe it. There are more satisfied gamers on Xbox and we all know it has games.

PS4 serving up more fail than greatness.

I believe there are less since the console sold less......

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@papatrop said:

The reason for low gameplay hours is because PS4 gamers spend their hours here on System Wars comparing the amount of grass in their video games.

not important since lems spend the same ammount of time saying they can't see the difference or making an excuse.

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@FastRobby said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

I believe it. There are more satisfied gamers on Xbox and we all know it has games.

PS4 serving up more fail than greatness.

I believe there are less since the console sold less......

He means that the number of satisfied xbox one gamers is bigger than those of the ps4.

I know what he was trying to say.....and it's opinion....and he can't speak for any quantitative number to start with....BUT with more of a demographic there is likely a correlation to more satisfied consumers.

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@FastRobby said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

I believe it. There are more satisfied gamers on Xbox and we all know it has games.

PS4 serving up more fail than greatness.

I believe there are less since the console sold less......

He means that the number of satisfied xbox one gamers is bigger than those of the ps4.

Don't mind Little Jack, he just has sand in his vagina 24/7.

Also, that is exactly what I meant FastRobby. We get it while others ponder.

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#91 LJS9502_basic
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@FastRobby said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

I know what he was trying to say.....and it's opinion....and he can't speak for any quantitative number to start with....BUT with more of a demographic there is likely a correlation to more satisfied consumers.

Then you should've given that answer.

So my answer was over your head then?

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@FastRobby said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@FastRobby said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

I believe it. There are more satisfied gamers on Xbox and we all know it has games.

PS4 serving up more fail than greatness.

I believe there are less since the console sold less......

He means that the number of satisfied xbox one gamers is bigger than those of the ps4.

I know what he was trying to say.....and it's opinion....and he can't speak for any quantitative number to start with....BUT with more of a demographic there is likely a correlation to more satisfied consumers.

Then you should've given that answer.

LOL, listen to Little Jack sounding all technical and scientific. He kinda reminds me of the Scarecrow at the end of The Wizard of OZ, where he finally gets a brain and babbles out formulas and crap.

Back on topic. Numbers and the general consensus show that in a blind taste test, 10:1 Xbox gamers were more satisfied with gaming and selections on The ONE.

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#93  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

@FastRobby said:

Then you should've given that answer.

LOL, listen to Little Jack sounding all technical and scientific. He kinda reminds me of the Scarecrow at the end of The Wizard of OZ, where he finally gets a brain and babbles out formulas and crap.

Back on topic. Numbers and the general consensus show that in a blind taste test, 10:1 Xbox gamers were more satisfied with gaming and selections on The ONE.

I see you are still seeking the wizard in search of said brain.....

And lol at making up stats. I see more lem damage control here then I do cow.

Now I'm off to work but when I get back I expect to see you still ranting and raving. Dat butt hurt keeps on for you....

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#94 FoxbatAlpha
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@LJS9502_basic said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

@FastRobby said:

Then you should've given that answer.

LOL, listen to Little Jack sounding all technical and scientific. He kinda reminds me of the Scarecrow at the end of The Wizard of OZ, where he finally gets a brain and babbles out formulas and crap.

Back on topic. Numbers and the general consensus show that in a blind taste test, 10:1 Xbox gamers were more satisfied with gaming and selections on The ONE.

I see you are still seeking the wizard in search of said brain.....

And lol at making up stats. I see more lem damage control here then I do cow.

Now I'm off to work but when I get back I expect to see you still ranting and raving. Dat butt hurt keeps on for you....

Have a good day LJ. I'm about to start work myself..................I am a toll booth operator for a draw bridge on an abandoned, closed road. :(

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@BigBadBully said:

So i just read both companies statistics for year one(using the articles on the gamespot homepage which details the statistics) What jumped out to me was the hours spent gaming. Despite falling

behind PS4 in sales and userbase, the Xbox One accounted for more hours spent gaming over The PS4 by 1 billion. We all know the PS4 is superior and the multiplats run better, why aren't people gaming more on the PS4? You would think the PS4 would easily dominate the Xbox One in the category of gaming hours.

It's unknown if it's online or just total to me. Does anyone actually know, i tried to find that in the article

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@SolidTy: I agree that "playing online" vs "playing games" makes it difficult to make a definitive comparison of the numbers but at the same time you can't automatically assume they aren't referencing the same thing either..

Surely, Sony tracks these numbers by people's PSN account being "online" while playing games just like Microsoft tracks people's XBL account being online while playing "games".. A very easy and logical conclusion can be reached that despite the slight difference in wording, the base statistical information they are providing is exactly the same.. "how many hours a person is using their console to play GAMES while their account is logged in ONLINE".. Playing "games" and playing "online" obviously doesn't have to be separate stats in this case..

I mean, common sense tells you that Sony would post the highest numbers possible right?.. So why would they only post numbers from total hours playing MP when they are easily tracking both MP and SP together?.. It seems much more likely that both Sony and Microsoft reported TOTAL numbers and we are looking at a situation in which (much to the disbelief of Sony fanboys) gamers are playing games on Xbox One waaay more than they are playing games on PS4 despite the disparity in sales numbers..

This can be due to a number if reasons.. Primary reasons being that just about every Xbox One exclusive has online multiplayer included in the package and online multiplayer exponentially lengthens the time spent with a game.. An average Titanfall player has probably logged well over 100 hours while the average InFamous: SS player may have logged less than 10 hours of total time with that game after a single play through... Same line of logic goes for online racers like Forza Motorsport 5 and Forza Horizon 2.. Even games like Dead Rising 3 and Ryse: Son of Rome had online multiplayer since launch in addition to new titles like Sunset Overdrive shipping with online MP as well.. Meanwhile, the only notable PS4 exclusive to have online MP was Killzone.. The fact is, MP >>>>>>>>>>>> SP in terms of logging hours on your console.. Beyond that, maybe the PS4 hype train is having the "Wii effect" in which people are buying the console and games based solely on it being the cool thing to do but aren't actually putting in the hours once they get home.. Who knows, but lets not act like this end result is an absolute impossibility..

In the end, due to the wording, I agree that definitive conclusions are more difficult to come to but lets not act like the TC's train of thought was totally unfounded.. In all actuality, the TC's assessment of the information provided is the most likely scenario considering the typical behavior or companies (post the highest numbers possible)..

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#98  Edited By WitIsWisdom
Member since 2007 • 10451 Posts

Yeah.. no..

A user base more than twice as large and comparable online features. Sounds legit... hnnng

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#99 Nightflash28
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The numbers have been explained and a comparison can't be made, so much has already been established.
So, it's only uninformed fanboys that keep this conversation going.

I'm out.

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#100 SolidTy
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@The_Last_Ride said:

@BigBadBully said:

So i just read both companies statistics for year one(using the articles on the gamespot homepage which details the statistics) What jumped out to me was the hours spent gaming. Despite falling

behind PS4 in sales and userbase, the Xbox One accounted for more hours spent gaming over The PS4 by 1 billion. We all know the PS4 is superior and the multiplats run better, why aren't people gaming more on the PS4? You would think the PS4 would easily dominate the Xbox One in the category of gaming hours.

It's unknown if it's online or just total to me. Does anyone actually know, i tried to find that in the article

I know and my breakdown is on page one.