Xbox One GPU Would Need to be 1.2 Ghz to Match PS4

The X1 GPU running at 1197 Mhz would bring shading power to nearly 1.8 TFLOPS. 

The PS4 can achieve 1.84 TFLOPS at 800 Mhz because it has a lot more shader cores.

PS4 @ 800 Mhz = 1.84

X1 @ 800 Mhz = 1.23

0.61 difference / 1.23 = 49.595% * 800 = 393.75 Mhz

393.75+800= 1196.75 Mhz

The 53 Mhz increase we saw in the X1 recently only brought it up to 1.32 TFLOPS.

This estimate is very rough and probably isn't entirely accurate, since performance per clock may differ. It still means that you'd need a massive overclock and some voltage tweaks to make up for the now 520 Gigaflop disadvantage.

50% disadvantage.

PinkiePirate

How did you work that out?

Surely it is a 33% disadvantage to the Xbox One, and a 50% advantage to the PS4?

[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"]50% disadvantage.

psymon100

How did you work that out?

Surely it is a 33% disadvantage to the Xbox One, and a 50% advantage to the PS4?

pretty sure we all know the xbone gpu is shitstereointegrity

[QUOTE="psymon100"]

[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"]50% disadvantage.

PinkiePirate

How did you work that out?

Surely it is a 33% disadvantage to the Xbox One, and a 50% advantage to the PS4?

50% Disadvantage you say? OK, I will interpret this as meaning "it is disadvantaged by 50%", "half the power". Let's work it out:

1.84TF x (100 - 50)% = 0.92TF - no machine you're talking about has that. To what machine does your claim pertain?

I said, surely it is a 33% disadvantage:

1.84TF x (100 - 33)% = 1.23TF

I said, surely it is a 50% advantage to the PS4:

1.23TF x (100 + 50)% = 1.84TF

So you are wrong when you say the Xbox One has a 50% disadvantage. 

[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"][QUOTE="psymon100"]

How did you work that out?

Surely it is a 33% disadvantage to the Xbox One, and a 50% advantage to the PS4?

psymon100

50% Disadvantage you say? OK, I will interpret this as meaning "it is disadvantaged by 50%", "half the power". Let's work it out:

1.84TF x (100 - 50)% = 0.92TF - no machine you're talking about has that. To what machine does your claim pertain?

I said, surely it is a 33% disadvantage:

1.84TF x (100 - 33)% = 1.23TF

I said, surely it is a 50% advantage to the PS4:

1.23TF x (100 + 50)% = 1.84TF

So you are wrong when you say the Xbox One has a 50% disadvantage. 

Okay, my bad. I originally wrote the post as an "50% advantage" and changed it without thinking about the math behind it. Sorry.PinkiePirate

No worries hombre. I just really felt like doing some maths. 

[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"]Okay, my bad. I originally wrote the post as an "50% advantage" and changed it without thinking about the math behind it. Sorry.psymon100

No worries hombre. I just really felt like doing some maths. 

[QUOTE="psymon100"]

[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"]Okay, my bad. I originally wrote the post as an "50% advantage" and changed it without thinking about the math behind it. Sorry.GuNsbl4ziN

No worries hombre. I just really felt like doing some maths. 

That's what people do at parties, right?

[QUOTE="GuNsbl4ziN"][QUOTE="psymon100"]

No worries hombre. I just really felt like doing some maths. 

Optical_Order

That's what people do at parties, right?

ps4 all the way.. well atleast you can cook an egg on the top of the xbox1

[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

[QUOTE="GuNsbl4ziN"]Math is fun.GuNsbl4ziN

That's what people do at parties, right?

The X1 GPU running at 1197 Mhz would bring shading power to nearly 1.8 TFLOPS. 

The PS4 can achieve 1.84 TFLOPS at 800 Mhz because it has a lot more shader cores.

PS4 @ 800 Mhz = 1.84

X1 @ 800 Mhz = 1.23

0.61 difference / 1.23 = 49.595% * 800 = 393.75 Mhz

393.75+800= 1196.75 Mhz

The 53 Mhz increase we saw in the X1 recently only brought it up to 1.32 TFLOPS.

PinkiePirate

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pretty sure we all know the xbone gpu is shitstereointegrity

Like every generation before this one multipalts will look incredibly similar while a handful of first party titles will stand out amongst the rest.

ps4 all the way.. well atleast you can cook an egg on the top of the xbox1

blamix99

Like every generation before this one multipalts will look incredibly similar while a handful of first party titles will stand out amongst the rest.

W1NGMAN-

[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

Like every generation before this one multipalts will look incredibly similar while a handful of first party titles will stand out amongst the rest.

WilliamRLBaker

Seeing the power difference almost makes me want the ps4 more than the Xbox one but I think the past couple of generations changed my thought from just getting the most powerful to getting the most enjoyable system. If I really wanted graphics I would get a Pc and everyone knows PCs kill the ps4 and Xbox one. I stick to conlsoles becaue they are more convient and affordable to me. Im sure most will agree that there a lot of good multiplat games and that they would look and play similar over both consoles so from being a mainly multiplat gamer I dont see the incentive going for the more powerful system at this point.

[QUOTE="blamix99"]

ps4 all the way.. well atleast you can cook an egg on the top of the xbox1

FoxbatAlpha

STOP WITH THIS MADNESS !!!!!!! 

Yall still on GPUs when it takes a WHOLE SYSTEM and we see it in the playstation games yall didnt have one robust game last year, a bunch of linear games and all the multiplats you did get and when th em games were big it struggled. GUESS WHAT ITS HAPPENING AGAIN . Another unbalanced console holding on to just one part of a system. Its ying and yang not ying and YANG.

[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"][QUOTE="psymon100"]

How did you work that out?

Surely it is a 33% disadvantage to the Xbox One, and a 50% advantage to the PS4?

psymon100

50% Disadvantage you say? OK, I will interpret this as meaning "it is disadvantaged by 50%", "half the power". Let's work it out:

1.84TF x (100 - 50)% = 0.92TF - no machine you're talking about has that. To what machine does your claim pertain?

I said, surely it is a 33% disadvantage:

1.84TF x (100 - 33)% = 1.23TF

I said, surely it is a 50% advantage to the PS4:

1.23TF x (100 + 50)% = 1.84TF

So you are wrong when you say the Xbox One has a 50% disadvantage. 

The xbox one has 10% GPU reservation.

Its performance is 1.18...

STOP WITH THIS MADNESS !!!!!!! 

Yall still on GPUs when it takes a WHOLE SYSTEM and we see it in the playstation games yall didnt have one robust game last year, a bunch of linear games and all the multiplats you did get and when th em games were big it struggled. GUESS WHAT ITS HAPPENING AGAIN . Another unbalanced console holding on to just one part of a system. Its ying and yang not ying and YANG.

Tighaman

Last year GOTY on this site was Journey as PSN game..:lol: it even beat HAlo 4...:lol:

Seeing the power difference almost makes me want the ps4 more than the Xbox one but I think the past couple of generations changed my thought from just getting the most powerful to getting the most enjoyable system. If I really wanted graphics I would get a Pc and everyone knows PCs kill the ps4 and Xbox one.I stick to conlsoles becaue they are more convient and affordable to me. Im sure most will agree that there a lot of good multiplat games and that they would look and play similar over both consoles so from being a mainly multiplat gamer I dont see the incentive going for the more powerful system at this point.

TheRealBigRich

Unless you are into MS exclusives there is no reason to get and xbox one,other than fanboysm,the games will look better on PS4 while the PS4 cost $100 less and its online plan cost $10 less than live and actually has value and not just online play.

So by your own reasons you should buy a PS4 unless you just like Halo,Forza and MS fist party games.

Nada, usually doesn't wash comparing cars to VG systems but I think it works here; Moooaaar horsepower under the hood doesn't automatically mean better performance on the track, ya must look at the auto / console in totality, for exaple, how effiencient is it at getting that horsepower to the wheels where it counts? Sooooo, just some food for thought. :P

I think they will provide enough on thr graphics end to where people will just say i dont give a f***. Im getting both on launch I might post up some youtube compars but not sure i hate the youtube look at me crap.

Nada, usually doesn't wash comparing cars to VG systems but I think it works here; Moooaaar horsepower under the hood doesn't automatically mean better performance on the track, ya must look at the auto / console in totality, for exaple, how effiencient is it at getting that horsepower to the wheels where it counts? Sooooo, just some food for thought. :P

SecretPolice

A lil bit but a car with 50 percent more power is normally faster unless it has wieght issues. If traction sucks i just do roll races 50mph and up.

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]pretty sure we all know the xbone gpu is shitDavekeeh

If there was a prize for most ridiculous fanboy on the planet, I'd nominate you ina heartbeat.

So the difference is HUGE between the Xbone and the Ps4, but the difference between the PS4 and a high end PC is NOTHING, even though in terms fo specs is more than 2-4 times the difference between Xbone and PS4?

Did I get that right?  It's hard to understand the convoluted turns you twist your logic into in the service of fanboyism.

The GPU is not the whole story.

Aren't there enough threads on this?

pretty sure we all know the xbone gpu is shitstereointegrity

STOP WITH THIS MADNESS !!!!!!! 

Yall still on GPUs when it takes a WHOLE SYSTEM and we see it in the playstation games yall didnt have one robust game last year, a bunch of linear games and all the multiplats you did get and when th em games were big it struggled. GUESS WHAT ITS HAPPENING AGAIN . Another unbalanced console holding on to just one part of a system. Its ying and yang not ying and YANG.

Tighaman

The PS4 looks more balanced than the xbox ONE.

Again with this stuff??? Hey heres an idea. Why don't we wait until the actual games are out and then decide which console is more powerful. Even if the PS4 does ultimately come out on top as far as graphical capabilities, my XBOX ONE will be a massive jump over the XBOX 360 and I'll have plenty of awesome games to play.ShoTTyMcNaDeS

[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]Again with this stuff??? Hey heres an idea. Why don't we wait until the actual games are out and then decide which console is more powerful. Even if the PS4 does ultimately come out on top as far as graphical capabilities, my XBOX ONE will be a massive jump over the XBOX 360 and I'll have plenty of awesome games to play.shawn30

Last gen, lems were going apeshit over the slight graphical edge on the 360. Now when karma strikes and cows do the same, you lems are calling them immature?

I look forward to seeing xbox people playing on graphically inferior games. It's like a bully getting bullied. Everyone loves to watch.

I

[QUOTE="Tighaman"]

STOP WITH THIS MADNESS !!!!!!! 

Yall still on GPUs when it takes a WHOLE SYSTEM and we see it in the playstation games yall didnt have one robust game last year, a bunch of linear games and all the multiplats you did get and when th em games were big it struggled. GUESS WHAT ITS HAPPENING AGAIN . Another unbalanced console holding on to just one part of a system. Its ying and yang not ying and YANG.

tormentos

Last year GOTY on this site was Journey as PSN game..:lol: it even beat HAlo 4...:lol:

[QUOTE="Tighaman"]

STOP WITH THIS MADNESS !!!!!!! 

Yall still on GPUs when it takes a WHOLE SYSTEM and we see it in the playstation games yall didnt have one robust game last year, a bunch of linear games and all the multiplats you did get and when th em games were big it struggled. GUESS WHAT ITS HAPPENING AGAIN . Another unbalanced console holding on to just one part of a system. Its ying and yang not ying and YANG.

Sonysexual1

The PS4 looks more balanced than the xbox ONE.

[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="Tighaman"]

STOP WITH THIS MADNESS !!!!!!! 

Yall still on GPUs when it takes a WHOLE SYSTEM and we see it in the playstation games yall didnt have one robust game last year, a bunch of linear games and all the multiplats you did get and when th em games were big it struggled. GUESS WHAT ITS HAPPENING AGAIN . Another unbalanced console holding on to just one part of a system. Its ying and yang not ying and YANG.

Tighaman

The PS4 looks more balanced than the xbox ONE.

The bandwidth of the RAM is shared between both the CPU and GPU. There's a custom bus between the CPU and the GDDR5 RAM that limits the CPU bandwidth usage to 20 GB/s. 

You make no sense and you don't know what you're talking about.

no graphic difference won't be noticeable. Get it over , hope  for good games.

[QUOTE="shawn30"]

[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]Again with this stuff??? Hey heres an idea. Why don't we wait until the actual games are out and then decide which console is more powerful. Even if the PS4 does ultimately come out on top as far as graphical capabilities, my XBOX ONE will be a massive jump over the XBOX 360 and I'll have plenty of awesome games to play.Sonysexual1

Last gen, lems were going apeshit over the slight graphical edge on the 360. Now when karma strikes and cows do the same, you lems are calling them immature?

I look forward to seeing xbox people playing on graphically inferior games. It's like a bully getting bullied. Everyone loves to watch.

its kinda funny the trend lems got this year after ps4 reveal

-wait for reveal of xbone!!!!

-wait for e3!!!!

-wait for gamescon!!!!

-wait for release!!!!!

they are getting destroyed in each event

its kinda funny the trend lems got this year after ps4 reveal

-wait for reveal of xbone!!!!

-wait for e3!!!!

-wait for gamescon!!!!

-wait for release!!!!!

they are getting destroyed in each event

[QUOTE="Tighaman"]

[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

The PS4 looks more balanced than the xbox ONE.

Sonysexual1

The bandwidth of the RAM is shared between both the CPU and GPU. There's a custom bus between the CPU and the GDDR5 RAM that limits the CPU bandwidth usage to 20 GB/s. 

You make no sense and you don't know what you're talking about.

What's with everyone talking about FLOPS when discussing next-gen console power?

It means little for real-world game performance since games don't run in software renderers.

Besides, the amount of FLOPS on next consoles is hardly impressive compared to even mid-range PC cards.

"FLOPS" are the new "bits" it seems...

Also, X1 having a worse GPU is old news.