Xbox One is a bad investment for consumers

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#1 drakekratos
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The Xbox division is in a state of disaray. 

CEO of the Xbox division Don Matrick was recently asked to step down and left the company. Now the CEO of Microsoft Steve Balmer has announced he's stepping down and will leave the company within the next year. 

 

Along with all the confusion and back peddling MS has done, it's obvious that the Xbox One was a poorly planned project. It is $100 more expensive than their competitors while being much weaker. Their entire reveal was based around TV TV TV and now theyve dropped that angle almost entirely. Obviously they dont know what direction they want to go in. Kinect mandatory? Always Online? TV? No used games? LOL!

 

Is it really unreasonable to think that in 3-4 years they will abandon the Xbox One entirely and put out a new system? (like they did with the original Xbox). There are even rumors that MS could get rid of their entertainment division entirely. I'm sure the higher ups at MS are not fond of all the bad PR X1 has given the company.

 

 

PS4 on the other hand was perfectly planned from the start. They have never wavered or changed policies. Sony's management is clear and concise in their direction. And like all PlayStation consoles, PS4 will have a very long lifecycle. (Sony is still supporting PS3 with good exclusives coming out for it). It also has much better specs. PS4 is clearly a much better investment. 

PS4 sales will be way better than Xbox One's as evident by the pre-order numbers that show PS4 is smashing Xbox. It's also less expensive and has Japan/Europe on lockdown, and even has higher pre-orders in Xbox's home turf of America. 

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Spiderman thread?

 

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Compared to Sony being in the red most of the time? and bringing out products like the Vita? the real reason its a bad investment is beyond the bunch of crap games they wasted 1 billion on aquiring they will be back to halo, cod, titanfall 124123 and gears , forza.... with mostly shared PC multiplats. Meanwhile PS4 will have Gaikai, Japanese market, MMOs ect ..... along with its own robust first party. THATS the key difference.
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Spiderman thread?

 

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The Xbox division is in a state of disaray. 

CEO of the Xbox division Don Matrick was recently asked to step down and left the company. Now the CEO of Microsoft Steve Balmer has announced he's stepping down and will leave the company within the next year. 

drakekratos

Source?

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$100 million on Controller R&D.

Bet the investors loved that one.

lol

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#8 super600  Moderator
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Xbox one is a bad investment for fanboys.MS has been improving their image in the last couple of months dude.Steve ballmer is the ceo of microsoft and he is retiring.

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

Spiderman thread?

 

clyde46

Better get this thread back on track:

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#10 drakekratos
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[QUOTE="drakekratos"]

The Xbox division is in a state of disaray. 

CEO of the Xbox division Don Matrick was recently asked to step down and left the company. Now the CEO of Microsoft Steve Balmer has announced he's stepping down and will leave the company within the next year. 

Rocker6

Source?

Are you THAT naive? CEO's don't just leave companies out of the blue before the launch of a huge new console unless they really screwed up... and Matrick obviously screwed up. Anyone with a brain knows that he was basically fired (asked to step down)
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="drakekratos"]

The Xbox division is in a state of disaray. 

CEO of the Xbox division Don Matrick was recently asked to step down and left the company. Now the CEO of Microsoft Steve Balmer has announced he's stepping down and will leave the company within the next year. 

drakekratos

Source?

Are you THAT naive? CEO's don't just leave companies out of the blue before the launch of a huge new console unless they really screwed up... and Matrick obviously screwed up. Anyone with a brain knows that he was basically fired (asked to step down)

He seems a better fit for Zynga anyway.
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="drakekratos"]

The Xbox division is in a state of disaray. 

CEO of the Xbox division Don Matrick was recently asked to step down and left the company. Now the CEO of Microsoft Steve Balmer has announced he's stepping down and will leave the company within the next year. 

drakekratos

Source?

Are you THAT naive? CEO's don't just leave companies out of the blue before the launch of a huge new console unless they really screwed up... and Matrick obviously screwed up. Anyone with a brain knows that he was basically fired (asked to step down)

Nope, by going to Zynga, Mattrick actually moved up in the world, and got to a higher position.

The way I see it, he saw an opportunity to advance in the businesws world, and took it, despite cows acting as he was publicly humiliated for some reason.

Again, have any proof for your claim?

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#13 lostrib
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="drakekratos"]

The Xbox division is in a state of disaray. 

CEO of the Xbox division Don Matrick was recently asked to step down and left the company. Now the CEO of Microsoft Steve Balmer has announced he's stepping down and will leave the company within the next year. 

drakekratos

Source?

Are you THAT naive? CEO's don't just leave companies out of the blue before the launch of a huge new console unless they really screwed up... and Matrick obviously screwed up. Anyone with a brain knows that he was basically fired (asked to step down)

or perhaps he was offered a shit ton of money

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#14 wiiutroll
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spiderman  thread!

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btw balmer retiring has nothing do with xboxone1z5qiw9.jpgtumblr_lm0zdp2jaS1qiyhf6o1_500.jpgtumblr_ljvborsj241qj41h3o1_500.jpg

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spiderman  thread!

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btw balmer retiring has nothing do with xboxone1z5qiw9.jpgtumblr_lm0zdp2jaS1qiyhf6o1_500.jpgtumblr_ljvborsj241qj41h3o1_500.jpg

wiiutroll

 

quoting for emphasis

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LOL Xbots only want to change the topic because they know its 100% true.
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LOL Xbots only want to change the topic because they know its 100% true. drakekratos

Don Mattrick is not the ceo of microsoft.:lol:

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#19 drakekratos
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[QUOTE="drakekratos"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Source?

lostrib

Are you THAT naive? CEO's don't just leave companies out of the blue before the launch of a huge new console unless they really screwed up... and Matrick obviously screwed up. Anyone with a brain knows that he was basically fired (asked to step down)

or perhaps he was offered a shit ton of money

Are you really that NAIVE? MS has way more money than Zynga. MS could've retained him if they wanted. Its obvious Mattrick was fired.
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LOL Xbots only want to change the topic because they know its 100% true. drakekratos

 

none xbot here. I'm buying a PS4 and I have a PC.  This thread is stupid. You failed.  Get over it.

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[QUOTE="drakekratos"]LOL Xbots only want to change the topic because they know its 100% true. super600

Don Mattrick is not the ceo of microsoft.:lol:

No one said he was. LEARN HOW TO READ. It says he was the CEO of the Xbox division.
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="drakekratos"]

The Xbox division is in a state of disaray. 

CEO of the Xbox division Don Matrick was recently asked to step down and left the company. Now the CEO of Microsoft Steve Balmer has announced he's stepping down and will leave the company within the next year. 

drakekratos

Source?

Are you THAT naive? CEO's don't just leave companies out of the blue before the launch of a huge new console unless they really screwed up... and Matrick obviously screwed up. Anyone with a brain knows that he was basically fired (asked to step down)

He probably was soft-fired, but it sure as hell isn't because of xbox one. Xbox in general is a tiny portion of Microsoft's business. Windows and Office is where the money comes from and thats why Steve is out.
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I would leave xbox for ps4.........except for one thing......I don't trust PSN. Matchmaking is slow, games are laggy & sometimes it seems I'm the only one that speaks english. That's probably why the games are laggy. X1 has been a PR marketing disaster so far - but still..........xbox live is a much better online experience. On a lesser note.....that share button on the ps4 really aggravates me......not sure why :evil:

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="drakekratos"] Are you THAT naive? CEO's don't just leave companies out of the blue before the launch of a huge new console unless they really screwed up... and Matrick obviously screwed up. Anyone with a brain knows that he was basically fired (asked to step down)drakekratos

or perhaps he was offered a shit ton of money

Are you really that NAIVE? MS has way more money than Zynga. MS could've retained him if they wanted. Its obvious Mattrick was fired.

Can you prove he was fired? as someone else pointed out, perhaps on top of money he may have also wanted to move to a higher position. Moving from president of one division to CEO of a company

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op doesn't know what he is  talking about .

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#26 lostrib
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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="drakekratos"]LOL Xbots only want to change the topic because they know its 100% true. drakekratos

Don Mattrick is not the ceo of microsoft.:lol:

No one said he was. LEARN HOW TO READ. It says he was the CEO of the Xbox division.

he wasn't CEO of the xbox division

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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="drakekratos"]LOL Xbots only want to change the topic because they know its 100% true. drakekratos

Don Mattrick is not the ceo of microsoft.:lol:

No one said he was. LEARN HOW TO READ. It says he was the CEO of the Xbox division.

no such thing. :?

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#28 Audacitron
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Xbox One?

 

bad investment for consumers,

bad investment for gamers,

bad investment for kids,

bad investment for casuals,

bad investment for investors,

bad investment for Microsoft,

bad investment for Spiderman.

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#30 shellcase86
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A bit of a baited, biased post, but I'm avoiding it for some of the aforementioned reasons. As a consumer, I don't have faith that MS won't 180 on some current policies. Also, they have not shown any consideration to provide software support consistently.

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Oh ok, "drakekratos".

 

Seriously guys, just look at the username, and it's easy to tell if it's an alt.

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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="drakekratos"]

The Xbox division is in a state of disaray. 

CEO of the Xbox division Don Matrick was recently asked to step down and left the company. Now the CEO of Microsoft Steve Balmer has announced he's stepping down and will leave the company within the next year. 

drakekratos

Source?

Are you THAT naive? CEO's don't just leave companies out of the blue before the launch of a huge new console unless they really screwed up... and Matrick obviously screwed up. Anyone with a brain knows that he was basically fired (asked to step down)

so you are assuming, okey dokey.
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Steve is just retiring you numbnuts.
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Spiderman thread?

 

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The Xbox division is in a state of disaray. 

CEO of the Xbox division Don Matrick was recently asked to step down and left the company. Now the CEO of Microsoft Steve Balmer has announced he's stepping down and will leave the company within the next year. 

 

Along with all the confusion and back peddling MS has done, it's obvious that the Xbox One was a poorly planned project. It is $100 more expensive than their competitors while being much weaker. Their entire reveal was based around TV TV TV and now theyve dropped that angle almost entirely. Obviously they dont know what direction they want to go in. Kinect mandatory? Always Online? TV? No used games? LOL!

 

Is it really unreasonable to think that in 3-4 years they will abandon the Xbox One entirely and put out a new system? (like they did with the original Xbox). There are even rumors that MS could get rid of their entertainment division entirely. I'm sure the higher ups at MS are not fond of all the bad PR X1 has given the company.

 

 

PS4 on the other hand was perfectly planned from the start. They have never wavered or changed policies. Sony's management is clear and concise in their direction. And like all PlayStation consoles, PS4 will have a very long lifecycle. (Sony is still supporting PS3 with good exclusives coming out for it). It also has much better specs. PS4 is clearly a much better investment. 

PS4 sales will be way better than Xbox One's as evident by the pre-order numbers that show PS4 is smashing Xbox. It's also less expensive and has Japan/Europe on lockdown, and even has higher pre-orders in Xbox's home turf of America. 

drakekratos

i'm gonna lol hard. one guy left to have a higher position and more pay at another company, the other one retired.

MS dind't back-pedal. they made changes to please copnsumers to boost sales. tahts pretty common all the time

MS has enough money and the Xbox divison turns profit. they've invested billions in it and it turns a profit, why would they abondon that.

meanwhile sony has lost 8 billion dollars on thair hardware side, they visioin isn't always clear. they were gonna include the eye and charge the same as the X1. they abondonded it to come in cheaper. they also pretty much abondoed the vita and the eye camera as well. SOny also scrwed up the design of the PS3 and admittied it a mere 2 years into the lifecycle. the 360 outsold the PS3 by alot to start. but PS3 evened out eventually over time. MS sin't even producing enough Xbox's to fill all the pre-orders so the sales are fine.

your whole post reeks of stupidity

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i'm gonna lol hard. one guy left to have a higher position and more pay at another company, the other one retired.darkangel115
Yep, Don left for the top job at Zynga and steve believes that MS requires longer term commitment for there 'new direction' 'Don Mattrick, the president of Microsofts game business, will leave the company and become the CEO of social gaming giant Zynga.' http://venturebeat.com/2013/07/01/confirmed-don-mattrick-to-leave-microsoft-for-zyngas-top-job/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23815563 Drakekratos is a loose cannon, he posts something without even doing any relevent research.
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="drakekratos"]

The Xbox division is in a state of disaray. 

CEO of the Xbox division Don Matrick was recently asked to step down and left the company. Now the CEO of Microsoft Steve Balmer has announced he's stepping down and will leave the company within the next year. 

drakekratos

Source?

Are you THAT naive? CEO's don't just leave companies out of the blue before the launch of a huge new console unless they really screwed up... and Matrick obviously screwed up. Anyone with a brain knows that he was basically fired (asked to step down)

When someone like Mattrick leaves that takes months of planning. He was leaving way before the E3 conference and reveal.
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="drakekratos"] Are you THAT naive? CEO's don't just leave companies out of the blue before the launch of a huge new console unless they really screwed up... and Matrick obviously screwed up. Anyone with a brain knows that he was basically fired (asked to step down)drakekratos

or perhaps he was offered a shit ton of money

Are you really that NAIVE? MS has way more money than Zynga. MS could've retained him if they wanted. Its obvious Mattrick was fired.

You are wasting your time. When it comes to lemmings and them excepting the X1 for what it actually is, you will always get this response.
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[QUOTE="drakekratos"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

or perhaps he was offered a shit ton of money

AmazonTreeBoa

Are you really that NAIVE? MS has way more money than Zynga. MS could've retained him if they wanted. Its obvious Mattrick was fired.

You are wasting your time. When it comes to lemmings and them excepting the X1 for what it actually is, you will always get this response.

didn't realize i was a lemming. good to know

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

Spiderman thread?

 

clyde46

Amen. It has a better line up than ps4 at this point. I will buy it to play games, I will play games on it. why am I going to worry about whether three years from now they aren't making games for it? I buy now to play now. Now is all that exists. The future and past do not. Play games dude. Why would I take gaming advice about x1 from a person with drakekratos as their name, and that sig, tc? Not like your not impartial.
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INB4 LOCK, maybe? 

But then again, what is a "Spiderman Thread"? :|

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#42 dxmcat
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MS basically has a monopoly on the PC OS side of things. Not like they have had to work much for sales in a while, since every new PC comes with...........etc etc.

Consoles? Oh my, actually gotta work for sales. Can't just do the minimum and still rake in mountains of profit.

Not that hard to figure out.

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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="drakekratos"]LOL Xbots only want to change the topic because they know its 100% true. drakekratos

Don Mattrick is not the ceo of microsoft.:lol:

No one said he was. LEARN HOW TO READ. It says he was the CEO of the Xbox division.

Inside voice.
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Someone do me a favor and post a picture of Sony executives bowing in apology. Im on my 360 and cant copy paste.

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#46 drakekratos
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Someone do me a favor and post a picture of Sony executives bowing in apology. Im on my 360 and cant copy paste.

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Someone do me a favor and post a picture of Sony executives bowing in apology. Im on my 360 and cant copy paste.

drakekratos
360 finally has a browser?

Yes...
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#48 drakekratos
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[QUOTE="drakekratos"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Someone do me a favor and post a picture of Sony executives bowing in apology. Im on my 360 and cant copy paste.

mitu123
360 finally has a browser?

Yes...

Ah. Took them long enough lol
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#49 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="drakekratos"][QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="drakekratos"] 360 finally has a browser?

Yes...

Ah. Took them long enough lol

welcome to like 2 years ago bro. hows party chat on ps3?? oh wait :lol:
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#50 R3FURBISHED
Member since 2008 • 12408 Posts

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="drakekratos"]

The Xbox division is in a state of disaray. 

CEO of the Xbox division Don Matrick was recently asked to step down and left the company. Now the CEO of Microsoft Steve Balmer has announced he's stepping down and will leave the company within the next year. 

drakekratos

Source?

CEO's don't just leave companies

Very good, thats why he(Don Mattrick) went from a job where he reports directly to the CEO to a job where he is the CEO.

You also are not named among the Smartest People in Tech and among the top Tech Visionaries without achieving a great deal.