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If you have friends or want PlayStation eye/move or Kinect experience Xbox One is cheaper.

Xbox One $499

PS4 $399 + $59 + $31 + $31 = $520, I'm sure there will be a bundle for $499 ish. But this only allows for 2 players, the new Kinect allows up to 6 players.

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2 people buy Xbox One for $998

Plus 3 different games each for $360

Both can play all 6 games using the new sharing feature for a total of $1358 and you get the Kinect thrown in.

2 people buy PS4 for $698

both have to buy 6 games each = $720

Both can play all 6 games for $1418

Combining the want for Kinect/eye like experiences and playing more than 6 games and you save a fortune getting Xbox One.

No doubt someone will say Kinect is rubbish and spys on you (untrue) or you cant sell used games (untrue) or they will remove the feature which they could but they keep talking about it so I dont see it happening or needs to be online which it does to allow the sharing of games or the PS4 has better processing power which it does and will be mean better looking exclusives. But in a lot of scenarios the Xbox One is cheaper and is definitely value for money.

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Haha, no

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Thanks for that constructive and valid argument.

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#5 Michael0134567
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You're kidding, right?

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#6 gameofthering
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Most people will just look at the price of the console. They will see that the Xbox One costs more than the PS3 launched at and just avoid it.
The Xbox One will do well in the US no doubt. 

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I usually play alone (atleast localy), so.....
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Most people will just look at the price of the console. They will see that the Xbox One costs more than the PS3 launched at and just avoid it.
The Xbox One will do well in the US no doubt. 

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Agree, they have to advertise the fact and Microsoft have got the money to do so.
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I think its obvious that the Xbone console + Kinect 2 for $499.99 is pretty good value. Forcing the Kinect 2 on people might be bold, but I can understand it as they want to have it standard on all units so that developers are more include to utilize it in games. How much is that PS eye thing? I imagine if you bought that separately with a PS4 you'd be right at the same price point? Then if we are comparing the Kinect 2 and PS eye, I think the Kinect 2 is clearly the better tech and better value. Again forcing it on people is what is bothering most gamers, but I can also see their reasons for wanting to do so.
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I usually play alone (atleast localy), so.....ShadowriverUB
You still can play alone, you just need to be online to grab the game from your friend and then play alone in the single player game.
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#11 SecretPolice
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150.00 for this gen beta Kinect or buy NEO for 400.00 get the light years ahead, much improved Kinect 2 for just another 100.00 - yeah baby. yeah.

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#12 muffin200
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2 people buy Xbox One for $998

Plus 3 different games each for $360

Both can play all 6 games using the new sharing feature for a total of $1358 and you get the Kinect thrown in.

 

2 people buy PS4 for $698

both have to buy 6 games each = $720

Both can play all 6 games for $1418

 

tdkmillsy

 

You seem to forget that you can hand the disc to your Friend on the PS4 so no need to buy the game twice.

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What about the couch and TV? You need those too.
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#15 kuraimen
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Lol I can't believe lems are so stupid that they're falling for m$ bs advertisements. You can share the game but not play it at the same time. Just like if you buy a game on ps4 between two people and share it. Come on lems this is not rocket science.
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[QUOTE="lockjaw333"]I think its obvious that the Xbone console + Kinect 2 for $499.99 is pretty good value. Forcing the Kinect 2 on people might be bold, but I can understand it as they want to have it standard on all units so that developers are more include to utilize it in games. How much is that PS eye thing? I imagine if you bought that separately with a PS4 you'd be right at the same price point? Then if we are comparing the Kinect 2 and PS eye, I think the Kinect 2 is clearly the better tech and better value. Again forcing it on people is what is bothering most gamers, but I can also see their reasons for wanting to do so.Desmonic
Nope, even with the PSEye the PS4 would be cheaper from the go (PSEye costs 60$).

So $40 different? I think the Kinect 2 functionality makes up for that.
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[QUOTE="tdkmillsy"]

2 people buy Xbox One for $998

Plus 3 different games each for $360

Both can play all 6 games using the new sharing feature for a total of $1358 and you get the Kinect thrown in.

 

2 people buy PS4 for $698

both have to buy 6 games each = $720

Both can play all 6 games for $1418

 

muffin200

 

You seem to forget that you can hand the disc to your Friend on the PS4 so no need to buy the game twice.

Its not the same (and you know its not). Both players have access to all 6 games to play whenever they want. At the same time or not. Yes you could co-ordinate one player playing a game finishing it (assuming its only a single player) and then passing it to another. But a lot of gamers want to play the new games asap and its cheaper to do this on Xbox One than PS4.
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#19 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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How do you know PS4 wont have game sharing also?  PS3 already has it, it allows for 2 people to share as many digital games as they want.  One buys the other plays for free.   I've seen no indication as to it not being in the PS4 yet.   Also you can simply share games by giving eachother discs an infinite number of times.  No problem.  There goes your little scenario.

Also isn't XBOX ONE game sharing limited to family members or people which reside within the household?  I bet there are some limitations behind it.  This is microsoft we're talking about after all.

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If you have friends or want PlayStation eye/move or Kinect experience Xbox One is cheaper.

Xbox One $499

PS4 $399 + $59 + $31 + $31 = $520, I'm sure there will be a bundle for $499 ish. But this only allows for 2 players, the new Kinect allows up to 6 players.

or

2 people buy Xbox One for $998

Plus 3 different games each for $360

Both can play all 6 games using the new sharing feature for a total of $1358 and you get the Kinect thrown in.

2 people buy PS4 for $698

both have to buy 6 games each = $720

Both can play all 6 games for $1418

Combining the want for Kinect/eye like experiences and playing more than 6 games and you save a fortune getting Xbox One.

No doubt someone will say Kinect is rubbish and spys on you (untrue) or you cant sell used games (untrue) or they will remove the feature which they could but they keep talking about it so I dont see it happening or needs to be online which it does to allow the sharing of games or the PS4 has better processing power which it does and will be mean better looking exclusives. But in a lot of scenarios the Xbox One is cheaper and is definitely value for money.

tdkmillsy

How times change. I remember cows arguing the same thing to defend the $599 PS3. "Teh Blu-Ray and teh built in Wi-Fi". Personally, I don't care if they both cost $999, I'm still getting an XB1 at launch and maybe a PS4 next spring.

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delusional TC.. u sound just like MS
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[QUOTE="Desmonic"][QUOTE="lockjaw333"]I think its obvious that the Xbone console + Kinect 2 for $499.99 is pretty good value. Forcing the Kinect 2 on people might be bold, but I can understand it as they want to have it standard on all units so that developers are more include to utilize it in games. How much is that PS eye thing? I imagine if you bought that separately with a PS4 you'd be right at the same price point? Then if we are comparing the Kinect 2 and PS eye, I think the Kinect 2 is clearly the better tech and better value. Again forcing it on people is what is bothering most gamers, but I can also see their reasons for wanting to do so.

Nope, even with the PSEye the PS4 would be cheaper from the go (PSEye costs 60$).

Don't forget the move controllers to give a closer experience to Kinect, buy 2 of them and it costs more. (you need 6 to compete with Kinect).
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Made my day man I laughed so hard at that.

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[QUOTE="muffin200"]

[QUOTE="tdkmillsy"]

2 people buy Xbox One for $998

Plus 3 different games each for $360

Both can play all 6 games using the new sharing feature for a total of $1358 and you get the Kinect thrown in.

 

2 people buy PS4 for $698

both have to buy 6 games each = $720

Both can play all 6 games for $1418

 

tdkmillsy

 

You seem to forget that you can hand the disc to your Friend on the PS4 so no need to buy the game twice.

Its not the same (and you know its not). Both players have access to all 6 games to play whenever they want. At the same time or not. Yes you could co-ordinate one player playing a game finishing it (assuming its only a single player) and then passing it to another. But a lot of gamers want to play the new games asap and its cheaper to do this on Xbox One than PS4.

 

Read the deal carefully and don't fall for MS PR without looking deeper - You can only share a game when someone else is not playing it.

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Lol I can't believe lems are so stupid that they're falling for m$ bs advertisements. You can share the game but not play it at the same time. Just like if you buy a game on ps4 between two people and share it. Come on lems this is not rocket science.kuraimen
Incorrect you can share the game and both play at the same time, its on the xbox site and has been said in multiple interview/videos.
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#26 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="muffin200"]

[QUOTE="tdkmillsy"]

2 people buy Xbox One for $998

Plus 3 different games each for $360

Both can play all 6 games using the new sharing feature for a total of $1358 and you get the Kinect thrown in.

 

2 people buy PS4 for $698

both have to buy 6 games each = $720

Both can play all 6 games for $1418

 

tdkmillsy

 

You seem to forget that you can hand the disc to your Friend on the PS4 so no need to buy the game twice.

Its not the same (and you know its not). Both players have access to all 6 games to play whenever they want. At the same time or not. Yes you could co-ordinate one player playing a game finishing it (assuming its only a single player) and then passing it to another. But a lot of gamers want to play the new games asap and its cheaper to do this on Xbox One than PS4.

They can't play the game at the same time :lol: major nelson already explained it on the angry joe interview. Should someone draw it for you?
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Don't know whether to laugh or to cry.
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TC you fail at troll threads.
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#29 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Lol I can't believe lems are so stupid that they're falling for m$ bs advertisements. You can share the game but not play it at the same time. Just like if you buy a game on ps4 between two people and share it. Come on lems this is not rocket science.tdkmillsy
Incorrect you can share the game and both play at the same time, its on the xbox site and has been said in multiple interview/videos.

See? This is why lems are so delusional. I thought you had learned to do some research after the Milo fiasco but no, you just keep falling for the same crap.
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I officially declare this thread an uniformed fail.

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Umm, the PS4's price is £340, the Xbox One's price is £499? Did you fails maths TC?
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XBOX ONE's instructional manual is going to be gigantic. All of the rules, how to use this and that, how to share this and that. Only ten here, two at a time, blah blah blah. Way too complicated for your average person.
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Anyway, the family sharing is the only good thing to come out of this whole mess. Don't know if Valve is reacting to Microsoft or had plans regardless, but this is a good movement. Digital sharing needs some form of restrictions, but that platform holders are looking at making it a possibility is something I very much encourage. We can only go up in this area really.
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#34 muffin200
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Umm, the PS4's price is £340, the Xbox One's price is £499? Did you fails maths TC?clyde46

 

It's £350 and £429 in GBP.

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Umm, the PS4's price is £340, the Xbox One's price is £499? Did you fails maths TC?clyde46
Did you fails English, poster?
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]Umm, the PS4's price is £340, the Xbox One's price is £499? Did you fails maths TC?khoofia_pika
Did you fails English, poster?

You both fail.
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#37 inggrish
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Wow. Failure topic. You are arguing about game sharing. When you share games with Xbox One over family network, only 1 can play the game at once, so you may as well just lend the disc to someone (which you can do on PS4). And on PS3 (and likely PS4 too) you can share the game with one other person, both being able to play at exactly the same time. 

 

And your argument about having to buy the Eye and extra motion controllers is useless as it only affects very few people.

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[QUOTE="tdkmillsy"][QUOTE="muffin200"]

 

You seem to forget that you can hand the disc to your Friend on the PS4 so no need to buy the game twice.

kuraimen
Its not the same (and you know its not). Both players have access to all 6 games to play whenever they want. At the same time or not. Yes you could co-ordinate one player playing a game finishing it (assuming its only a single player) and then passing it to another. But a lot of gamers want to play the new games asap and its cheaper to do this on Xbox One than PS4.

They can't play the game at the same time :lol: major nelson already explained it on the angry joe interview. Should someone draw it for you?

I didn't know that, thanks for the heads up (although I don't know what you mean should someone draw it for you). Its a shame it took 2 pages due to the people talking trash. First post and its been trashed :( However I still think the whole sharing aspect its very cool. The video is pretty lame really, someone should do one where you give 50 games to someone else or jump on a plane to give it to a friend who lives far away and then asks for it back :)
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I didn't know that, thanks for the heads up (although I don't know what you mean should someone draw it for you). Its a shame it took 2 pages due to the people talking trash. First post and its been trashed tdkmillsy

 

Don't take it personally buddy. Systems wars is designed to be trash posts and rip people apart type place.

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[QUOTE="tdkmillsy"][QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="tdkmillsy"] Its not the same (and you know its not). Both players have access to all 6 games to play whenever they want. At the same time or not. Yes you could co-ordinate one player playing a game finishing it (assuming its only a single player) and then passing it to another. But a lot of gamers want to play the new games asap and its cheaper to do this on Xbox One than PS4.

They can't play the game at the same time :lol: major nelson already explained it on the angry joe interview. Should someone draw it for you?

I didn't know that, thanks for the heads up (although I don't know what you mean should someone draw it for you). Its a shame it took 2 pages due to the people talking trash. First post and its been trashed :( However I still think the whole sharing aspect its very cool. The video is pretty lame really, someone should do one where you give 50 games to someone else or jump on a plane to give it to a friend who lives far away and then asks for it back :)

M$ is actually restricting the amount of people you can share the game with. On xbone you can share it with 10 on the ps4 indefinitely. The ps3 even provides a better system since you can actually share the digital game and play it at the same time.
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i must be stupid or TC is....

 

anyways do people really think they going be able "share" games so simple? 

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Which pr firm do you work at that Microsoft is paying for
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[QUOTE="tdkmillsy"] I didn't know that, thanks for the heads up (although I don't know what you mean should someone draw it for you). Its a shame it took 2 pages due to the people talking trash. First post and its been trashed muffin200

 

Don't take it personally buddy. Systems wars is designed to be trash posts and rip people apart type place.

Thanks man, I wont.
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Damn been found out, is it because I posted something that wasn't against Xbox One :) Truthfully I'd happily work for Microsoft, if you reading this get in touch Microsoft.

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[QUOTE="lockjaw333"][QUOTE="Desmonic"] Nope, even with the PSEye the PS4 would be cheaper from the go (PSEye costs 60$).Desmonic

So $40 different? I think the Kinect 2 functionality makes up for that.

But alas for 40$ bucks you could easily buy a PS4 used game within the first two months after launch :P What really matters more than DRM's or use games is the price.... and that 100$ difference is a lot. We already see bundles on Amazon (which I'm assuming stores will also have) for the same price of the XB1 but with a game and a full year of PS+(which besides MP, will grant you even more games every month). That's a lot more bang for your buck, comparatively. We'll see how sales go, but I think it's relatively safe to say the PS4 can (and likely will) sell more.

Its only when packages from both sides are released will we know the true value.
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[QUOTE="Desmonic"][QUOTE="tdkmillsy"][QUOTE="Desmonic"] Nope, even with the PSEye the PS4 would be cheaper from the go (PSEye costs 60$).

Don't forget the move controllers to give a closer experience to Kinect, buy 2 of them and it costs more. (you need 6 to compete with Kinect).

Completely optional, therefore moot point. 399$ is cheaper than 499$.

Read the thread title before simply posting trash.