Xbox One is Cheaper than PS4 in many respects

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#51 tdkmillsy
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[QUOTE="tdkmillsy"][QUOTE="Desmonic"]

But alas for 40$ bucks you could easily buy a PS4 used game within the first two months after launch :P What really matters more than DRM's or use games is the price.... and that 100$ difference is a lot. We already see bundles on Amazon (which I'm assuming stores will also have) for the same price of the XB1 but with a game and a full year of PS+(which besides MP, will grant you even more games every month). That's a lot more bang for your buck, comparatively. We'll see how sales go, but I think it's relatively safe to say the PS4 can (and likely will) sell more.

Desmonic
Its only when packages from both sides are released will we know the true value.

Wut. Are you trying to tell me, somehow the X1 bundles won't cost more than 499$? Not sure if serious or just trolling....

Hmmm perhaps wishful thinking a little bit. I'm hoping they throw in a game into the same price, even it if its a Kinect game as I actually like Kinect. I see your point about PS4 packages comparing to Kinect inclusion. Microsoft will produce a package with game and xbox live and we will have to see if the price difference is still £80/$100.
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#53 tdkmillsy
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[QUOTE="tdkmillsy"][QUOTE="Desmonic"] Completely optional, therefore moot point. 399$ is cheaper than 499$.Desmonic

Read the thread title before simply posting trash.

I've read it multiple times and it contains pretty dubious comparisons and a complete lack of logic. You do realize that if 2 PS4 owners buy 3 games each they can share them between them right? Your OP is filled with either moot points or misinformation.

Thanks for reading it multiple times :) It was based on what I thought I knew and I have already said I was wrong. In previous generation there was a comparison between Wii controllers, PS Move and Kinect, if you want that experience on the next generation (and a lot of people did in last generation as Wii's, Move and Kinect sold well) then Xbox One is the best value console.
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#54 lilnazar
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Not sure what kind of BS this is. Xbone is expensiver. The console costs 500$ + a mic (if you want one) makes it 510$, and then there's batteries too. Go home TC.

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#55 Phazevariance
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If you have friends or want PlayStation eye/move or Kinect experience Xbox One is cheaper.

Xbox One $499

PS4 $399 + $59 + $31 + $31 = $520, I'm sure there will be a bundle for $499 ish. But this only allows for 2 players, the new Kinect allows up to 6 players.

or

2 people buy Xbox One for $998

Plus 3 different games each for $360

Both can play all 6 games using the new sharing feature for a total of $1358 and you get the Kinect thrown in.

2 people buy PS4 for $698

both have to buy 6 games each = $720

Both can play all 6 games for $1418

Combining the want for Kinect/eye like experiences and playing more than 6 games and you save a fortune getting Xbox One.

No doubt someone will say Kinect is rubbish and spys on you (untrue) or you cant sell used games (untrue) or they will remove the feature which they could but they keep talking about it so I dont see it happening or needs to be online which it does to allow the sharing of games or the PS4 has better processing power which it does and will be mean better looking exclusives. But in a lot of scenarios the Xbox One is cheaper and is definitely value for money.

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Can you explain what the +$59 +$31 +$31 parts are?
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#56 tdkmillsy
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[QUOTE="Desmonic"][QUOTE="tdkmillsy"][QUOTE="Desmonic"] Wut. Are you trying to tell me, somehow the X1 bundles won't cost more than 499$? Not sure if serious or just trolling....

Hmmm perhaps wishful thinking a little bit. I'm hoping they throw in a game into the same price, even it if its a Kinect game as I actually like Kinect. I see your point about PS4 packages comparing to Kinect inclusion. Microsoft will produce a package with game and xbox live and we will have to see if the price difference is still £80/$100.

Unless MS is willing to not make much profit on those sort of bundles, the bundles will at least have a 50$ difference (one game for the X1 at 550$// PS+ and 1 game for the PS4 at 500$) or as much as 100$ still ( 1 game for each = 50$ more for each).

Unfortunately if Microsoft do look to not make much profit it probably wont be at launch.
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#57 tdkmillsy
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[QUOTE="tdkmillsy"]

If you have friends or want PlayStation eye/move or Kinect experience Xbox One is cheaper.

Xbox One $499

PS4 $399 + $59 + $31 + $31 = $520, I'm sure there will be a bundle for $499 ish. But this only allows for 2 players, the new Kinect allows up to 6 players.

or

2 people buy Xbox One for $998

Plus 3 different games each for $360

Both can play all 6 games using the new sharing feature for a total of $1358 and you get the Kinect thrown in.

2 people buy PS4 for $698

both have to buy 6 games each = $720

Both can play all 6 games for $1418

Combining the want for Kinect/eye like experiences and playing more than 6 games and you save a fortune getting Xbox One.

No doubt someone will say Kinect is rubbish and spys on you (untrue) or you cant sell used games (untrue) or they will remove the feature which they could but they keep talking about it so I dont see it happening or needs to be online which it does to allow the sharing of games or the PS4 has better processing power which it does and will be mean better looking exclusives. But in a lot of scenarios the Xbox One is cheaper and is definitely value for money.

Phazevariance
Can you explain what the +$59 +$31 +$31 parts are?

sure eye plus 2 move controllers. Ian
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]Umm, the PS4's price is £340, the Xbox One's price is £499? Did you fails maths TC?khoofia_pika
Did you fails English, poster?

Eh? Nothing wrong with my sentence, I just got the price wrong. You on the other hand, need to relearn English.
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#59 lilnazar
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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="clyde46"]Umm, the PS4's price is £340, the Xbox One's price is £499? Did you fails maths TC?clyde46
Did you fails English, poster?

Eh? Nothing wrong with my sentence, I just got the price wrong. You on the other hand, need to relearn English.

You wrote "Fails Maths" when it's *fail math*.
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[QUOTE="lilnazar"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] Did you fails English, poster?

Eh? Nothing wrong with my sentence, I just got the price wrong. You on the other hand, need to relearn English.

You wrote "Fails Maths" when it's *fail math*.

Its Maths noob.
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#61 lilnazar
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Thought so, but you wrote "fails". So you're a noob too.

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#62 clyde46
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Thought so, but you wrote "fails". So you're a noob too.

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#63 lilnazar
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[QUOTE="lilnazar"]

Thought so, but you wrote "fails". So you're a noob too.

clyde46
I'm dyslexic, I have an excuse.

That's not an excuse for failing grammar.
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#64 tdkmillsy
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i must be stupid or TC is....

 

anyways do people really think they going be able "share" games so simple? 

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I actually think it will. If they are going to use a check out system its pretty easy to do.
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#65 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="lilnazar"]

Thought so, but you wrote "fails". So you're a noob too.

lilnazar
I'm dyslexic, I have an excuse.

That's not an excuse for failing grammar.

Yes it is.
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#66 tdkmillsy
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Wow. Failure topic. You are arguing about game sharing. When you share games with Xbox One over family network, only 1 can play the game at once, so you may as well just lend the disc to someone (which you can do on PS4). And on PS3 (and likely PS4 too) you can share the game with one other person, both being able to play at exactly the same time. 

 

And your argument about having to buy the Eye and extra motion controllers is useless as it only affects very few people.

_Matt_
And on PS3 (and likely PS4 too) you can share the game with one other person, both being able to play at exactly the same time I've head this twice now, your telling me I can buy any game from the PlayStation store (PS3 and probably PS4) and share with a friend online and both play at same time?
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#67 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

Wow. Failure topic. You are arguing about game sharing. When you share games with Xbox One over family network, only 1 can play the game at once, so you may as well just lend the disc to someone (which you can do on PS4). And on PS3 (and likely PS4 too) you can share the game with one other person, both being able to play at exactly the same time. 

 

And your argument about having to buy the Eye and extra motion controllers is useless as it only affects very few people.

tdkmillsy

And on PS3 (and likely PS4 too) you can share the game with one other person, both being able to play at exactly the same timeI've head this twice now, your telling me I can buy any game from the PlayStation store (PS3 and probably PS4) and share with a friend online and both play at same time?

 

 Yes at the start of this gen you could do it with 5 people. In fact I bought many games with friends this way. Now it is restricted to two people but still works.


The good thing is that you can activate or deactivate the machines you share the games with at any time so you can share it with several still but only one at a time. Still you play at the same time though.

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#68 k2theswiss
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[QUOTE="k2theswiss"]

i must be stupid or TC is....

 

anyways do people really think they going be able "share" games so simple? 

tdkmillsy
I actually think it will. If they are going to use a check out system its pretty easy to do.

check out system? as in turn your full game into a demo? lol. What i mean is they going mostly run it like they run family accounts. one main account rest is sub accounts that can't do anything on it's own
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If you have friends or want PlayStation eye/move or Kinect experience Xbox One is cheaper.

Xbox One $499

PS4 $399 + $59 + $31 + $31 = $520, I'm sure there will be a bundle for $499 ish. But this only allows for 2 players, the new Kinect allows up to 6 players.

or

2 people buy Xbox One for $998

Plus 3 different games each for $360

Both can play all 6 games using the new sharing feature for a total of $1358 and you get the Kinect thrown in.

2 people buy PS4 for $698

both have to buy 6 games each = $720

Both can play all 6 games for $1418

Combining the want for Kinect/eye like experiences and playing more than 6 games and you save a fortune getting Xbox One.

No doubt someone will say Kinect is rubbish and spys on you (untrue) or you cant sell used games (untrue) or they will remove the feature which they could but they keep talking about it so I dont see it happening or needs to be online which it does to allow the sharing of games or the PS4 has better processing power which it does and will be mean better looking exclusives. But in a lot of scenarios the Xbox One is cheaper and is definitely value for money.

tdkmillsy
kinect is trash and shouldnt even be apart of the xbox brand.
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what...huh?...hmm
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That's some incredible lem math you've got there doctor.
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#72 shellcase86
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Nope.

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#73 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="tdkmillsy"][QUOTE="Phazevariance"] Can you explain what the +$59 +$31 +$31 parts are?

sure eye plus 2 move controllers. Ian

Not compulsory dumbass.
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#74 Rolands21
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If you have friends or want PlayStation eye/move or Kinect experience Xbox One is cheaper.

Xbox One $499

PS4 $399 + $59 + $31 + $31 = $520, I'm sure there will be a bundle for $499 ish. But this only allows for 2 players, the new Kinect allows up to 6 players.

or

2 people buy Xbox One for $998

Plus 3 different games each for $360

Both can play all 6 games using the new sharing feature for a total of $1358 and you get the Kinect thrown in.

2 people buy PS4 for $698

both have to buy 6 games each = $720

Both can play all 6 games for $1418

Combining the want for Kinect/eye like experiences and playing more than 6 games and you save a fortune getting Xbox One.

No doubt someone will say Kinect is rubbish and spys on you (untrue) or you cant sell used games (untrue) or they will remove the feature which they could but they keep talking about it so I dont see it happening or needs to be online which it does to allow the sharing of games or the PS4 has better processing power which it does and will be mean better looking exclusives. But in a lot of scenarios the Xbox One is cheaper and is definitely value for money.

tdkmillsy
OP, your arguments for the Xbox one being cheap is completely and utterly based on conjecture. However, it is not your lack of ability to make sense that boggles my mentality, it is that your articulating non sense in a way, previously unknown to mankind. For that, I will give you the benefit of the doubt and buy that goddamn Xbox one. I mean does it even make sense, nope, I give up. I will buy it. It is over. You win. I don't know how you did it but you won.
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#75 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="lilnazar"]

Thought so, but you wrote "fails". So you're a noob too.

clyde46

I'm dyslexic, I have an excuse.

That sucks. Sorry for my earlier comment.

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nice try. 4/10 and a $5 footlong is on the way.
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="lilnazar"]

Thought so, but you wrote "fails". So you're a noob too.

Michael0134567

I'm dyslexic, I have an excuse.

That sucks. Sorry for my earlier comment.

Don't worry about it man. My government here gave me a free 27in iMac to "help" me with my studies.
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#78 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] I'm dyslexic, I have an excuse. clyde46

That sucks. Sorry for my earlier comment.

Don't worry about it man. My government here gave me a free 27in iMac to "help" me with my studies.

Well, aren't you lucky. That's very nice of them.
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#79 tormentos
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[QUOTE="muffin200"]

[QUOTE="tdkmillsy"]

2 people buy Xbox One for $998

Plus 3 different games each for $360

Both can play all 6 games using the new sharing feature for a total of $1358 and you get the Kinect thrown in.

 

2 people buy PS4 for $698

both have to buy 6 games each = $720

Both can play all 6 games for $1418

 

tdkmillsy

 

You seem to forget that you can hand the disc to your Friend on the PS4 so no need to buy the game twice.

Its not the same (and you know its not). Both players have access to all 6 games to play whenever they want. At the same time or not. Yes you could co-ordinate one player playing a game finishing it (assuming its only a single player) and then passing it to another. But a lot of gamers want to play the new games asap and its cheaper to do this on Xbox One than PS4.

 

ON xbox one only 1 gamer can play from the share games at 1 time,and you can't play the gamed he is playing so stop your spinning.

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How times change. I remember cows arguing the same thing to defend the $599 PS3. "Teh Blu-Ray and teh built in Wi-Fi". Personally, I don't care if they both cost $999, I'm still getting an XB1 at launch and maybe a PS4 next spring.

StormyJoe

 

You are an idiot..

 

Blu-ray was $1,000 stand alone Kinect is a piece of sh** over priced crap.

 

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#81 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

 

How times change. I remember cows arguing the same thing to defend the $599 PS3. "Teh Blu-Ray and teh built in Wi-Fi". Personally, I don't care if they both cost $999, I'm still getting an XB1 at launch and maybe a PS4 next spring.

tormentos

 

You are an idiot..

 

Blu-ray was $1,000 stand alone Kinect is a piece of sh** over priced crap.

 

Star Trek's holodeck has Kinect type sensors.
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#82 Farsendor1
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I don't need or want the move/camera stuff and I don't want the full experience with that crap. 

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#83 Animal-Mother
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I think this is the dumbest thread in the history of system wars

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#84 Zaibach
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I think this is the dumbest thread in the history of system wars

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oh wow, thats quite a statement

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#85 Giancar
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The funniest thing of all this. That Kinect isn't optional anymore.
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#86 Mr720fan
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it has more value, but they need to come in line with PS4, i think they know this, or hope.

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#87 StryderK
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Haven't we heard all of this before?

Like back in 2006 when the cows were defending the PS3 unto death? Ahhh, As they say in Matrix Reloaded. Many things change, many things still stay the same!!! AHAHAHAHAHA! :lol:

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this was a terrible terrible read
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

 

How times change. I remember cows arguing the same thing to defend the $599 PS3. "Teh Blu-Ray and teh built in Wi-Fi". Personally, I don't care if they both cost $999, I'm still getting an XB1 at launch and maybe a PS4 next spring.

ronvalencia

 

You are an idiot..

 

Blu-ray was $1,000 stand alone Kinect is a piece of sh** over priced crap.

 

Star Trek's holodeck has Kinect type sensors.

 

Please don't insult Star Trek by comparing it to the kinect.

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#90 ProjectPat187
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They will see that the Xbox One costs more than the PS3 launched at and just avoid it.gameofthering
the PS3 launched at $600
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#91 StormyJoe
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[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

How times change. I remember cows arguing the same thing to defend the $599 PS3. "Teh Blu-Ray and teh built in Wi-Fi". Personally, I don't care if they both cost $999, I'm still getting an XB1 at launch and maybe a PS4 next spring.

tormentos

You are an idiot..

Blu-ray was $1,000 stand alone Kinect is a piece of sh** over priced crap.

The BR drive itself never cost that much. Most stand alone Blu-Ray players were about $500 when the PS3 launched,

You have no facts to back up your point of Kinect 2. None. All you have is your fanboy glasses... and probably a cow suit.

Name calling? Really? I guess I expect too much from you. Way to emphasize your limited vernacular.

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#92 AmazonTreeBoa
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Why do both PS4 gamers have to buy 6 games each? Why don't they both just buy three and share? What if those two people don't have internet and don't want internet? Now suddenly if they buy an X1, not only can they NOT share games, they can't even play their own. Not even for single player games. Not everybody has nor wants internet regardless of how much people here scream that they do. Now those two that bought the X1 have to shell out a monthly internet fee.
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is it me or SW is getting worse and worse ?!
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#94 kuraimen
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Why do both PS4 gamers have to buy 6 games each? Why don't they both just buy three and share? What if those two people don't have internet and don't want internet? Now suddenly if they buy an X1, not only can they NOT share games, they can't even play their own. Not even for single player games. Not everybody has nor wants internet regardless of how much people here scream that they do. Now those two that bought the X1 have to shell out a monthly internet fee.AmazonTreeBoa
It seems M$ has convinced lems that they invented sharing.
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#95 AD216
Member since 2008 • 1719 Posts

 

Haha, no

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#96 AD216
Member since 2008 • 1719 Posts
is it me or SW is getting worse and worse ?!shadiezz2012
i honestly been thinking of leaving this shit because im starting to feel like this shit is elementary school
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#97 StryderK
Member since 2006 • 3189 Posts

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="tormentos"]

You are an idiot..

Blu-ray was $1,000 stand alone Kinect is a piece of sh** over priced crap.

ultimate-k

Star Trek's holodeck has Kinect type sensors.

Please don't insult Star Trek by comparing it to the kinect.

Ohh trust me, that's another de javu!

Back in 2006, some cows were comparing "TEH CELLLZZZZ! to the "Powah of the isolinear optical chipz on teh Enterprize!!!!!!" Again, many things change, many things stays the same! :cool:

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#98 marklarmer
Member since 2004 • 3883 Posts

yeah more like cheaper to manufacture, at least it will probably be cheaper to buy second hand....oh wait.

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#99 no-scope-AK47
Member since 2012 • 3755 Posts

Wow the damage control is strong here

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#100 FragTycoon
Member since 2008 • 6430 Posts

TC can't be for real....

The little faith I have in humanity will not allow me to believe TC is for real.