Xbox One sales dropped below 360 in 2017

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#51 mecha_frieza
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@open_lane said:

@mecha_frieza: i think the hardest part for me is that i WANT to want an xbox. I want to expand the amount of good gaming experiences i have. Unfortunately, there just doesn’t feel like there’s much i’m missing out on over at the MS camp. I feel like i’m missing out on more by not owning a nintendo system. As far as i see it, xbox should become either a budget based option or they should get some good games, maybe even a mascot. Make it feel like i’m missing out on something. As i said from a hardware perpective they got my attention, just failed to retain it with content.

Well, that's because Nintendo is awesome! They have the Mario games, Mario cart, Super Smash Brothers and Zelda, what's not to like?

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#52  Edited By QuadKnight
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@StormyJoe said:
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@StormyJoe: You are worse than a fanboy. Xbone is no. 2 for 2 months in the entire year in one country and you want us to believe it’s doing well. ? Talk about total delusion, you should really get your head out of MS’ butt, it’s not allowing enough oxygen to your brain.

According to the link I provided in another response, it has sold over 30 million. Could that be better? Of course - but it's not horrible. Also, the 360 did just fine without international acceptance. So, your argument is a wee bit weak.

Firstly, your link can’t confirm shit because MS doesn’t provide official numbers so it’s worthless.

Second, you’re falsely claiming the 360 has no international acceptance which is a flat out lie. 360 was selling well in Europe, a market that Xbone completely lost this gen when they decided to do their Tier1, Tier2, TV, NFL, DRM marketing strategy that alienated a lot of Europe.

The only place 360 wasn’t doing well was Japan. Xbone is doing so badly now that it only does okay in US and UK now while 360 was selling well in Germany,France, Spain, etc. last gen. Go look at European charts in GAF/Resetera if you think I’m lying.

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#53 QuadKnight
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@Pedro said:
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@Pedro: It’s possible to flop and not be dead. As long as MS continues to pump money into the failed system it will stay alive but it doesn’t change the fact it’s a flop.

Its not a flop no matter how many times you imply or explicitly make the claim. You and your fellow Sony fannies seem to spend more time talking about the system than the PS4. If its a thread about the PS4, it quickly turns into an Xbox thread. Its truly entertaining. The Xbox has you all mesmerized. Keep it up, we need entertainment that is more interactive than movies. ;)

You sound like you’re about to cry with this response. ? You need to chill, it’s not that serious.

ZhugeEX is a well respected analyst and if he says it’s trending worse than 360, I believe him over a rabid fanboy like you. If it’s trending worse than 360 there’s absolutely no way you can call it a success no matter how much you cry in this thread lol.

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#54 Pedro
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@quadknight said:
@Pedro said:
@quadknight said:

@Pedro: It’s possible to flop and not be dead. As long as MS continues to pump money into the failed system it will stay alive but it doesn’t change the fact it’s a flop.

Its not a flop no matter how many times you imply or explicitly make the claim. You and your fellow Sony fannies seem to spend more time talking about the system than the PS4. If its a thread about the PS4, it quickly turns into an Xbox thread. Its truly entertaining. The Xbox has you all mesmerized. Keep it up, we need entertainment that is more interactive than movies. ;)

You sound like you’re about to cry with this response. ? You need to chill, it’s not that serious.

ZhugeEX is a well respected analyst and if he says it’s trending worse than 360, I believe him over a rabid fanboy like you. If it’s trending worse than 360 there’s absolutely no way you can call it a success no matter how much you cry in this thread lol.

Really? Thats the best response you can conjure? Am about to cry? :|

Do you actually take your time to read not only the post you are responding to but your actual response? None of which addresses the issues, just the typical Quadknight response that is much about nothing. Despite all of you childish rhetoric, the Xbox still is not a flop. :)

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@StormyJoe said:

According to the link I provided in another response, it has sold over 30 million. Could that be better? Of course - but it's not horrible. Also, the 360 did just fine without international acceptance. So, your argument is a wee bit weak.

Your statement couldn't be more wrong. Xbox One selling just $30 million isn't good at all, it's been out for 4 years, it should have been way more then that now. $50-$60 million at least should have been more then good for MS but no! Look at Nintendo Switch, Switch sold over $10 million and we haven't even gotta to Switch first 1 year later. 4 years vs almost 1 year is obviously telling something that Switch will pass Xbox One in no time.

This current-gen is almost over now. Sorry but MS lost this gen big time! MS is just gonna have to try again next-gen.

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#57 Pedro
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@davillain- said:

Your statement couldn't be more wrong. Xbox One selling just $30 million isn't good at all, it's been out for 4 years, it should have been way more then that now. $50-$60 million at least should have been more then good for MS but no! Look at Nintendo Switch, Switch sold over $10 million and we haven't even gotta to Switch first 1 year later. 4 years vs almost 1 year is obviously telling something that Switch will pass Xbox One in no time.

This current-gen is almost over now. Sorry but MS lost this gen big time! MS is just gonna have to try again next-gen.

But there isn't going to be a "next gen". Gens died this gen.

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#58 DaVillain  Moderator
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@Pedro: Funny, I heard different.

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#59  Edited By QuadKnight
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@Pedro said:
@quadknight said:
@Pedro said:
@quadknight said:

@Pedro: It’s possible to flop and not be dead. As long as MS continues to pump money into the failed system it will stay alive but it doesn’t change the fact it’s a flop.

Its not a flop no matter how many times you imply or explicitly make the claim. You and your fellow Sony fannies seem to spend more time talking about the system than the PS4. If its a thread about the PS4, it quickly turns into an Xbox thread. Its truly entertaining. The Xbox has you all mesmerized. Keep it up, we need entertainment that is more interactive than movies. ;)

You sound like you’re about to cry with this response. ? You need to chill, it’s not that serious.

ZhugeEX is a well respected analyst and if he says it’s trending worse than 360, I believe him over a rabid fanboy like you. If it’s trending worse than 360 there’s absolutely no way you can call it a success no matter how much you cry in this thread lol.

Really? Thats the best response you can conjure? Am about to cry? :|

Do you actually take your time to read not only the post you are responding to but your actual response? None of which addresses the issues, just the typical Quadknight response that is much about nothing. Despite all of you childish rhetoric, the Xbox still is not a flop. :)

Dude, you’re about to have another meltdown in this thread, chill out.

Look at the facts we have here. In 4 years Xbone has only managed to sell about 30 million (we don’t know the exact numbers because MS keeps hiding them). At this rate no way in hell will it reach 85 million like 360 did. Then we have a well respected industry anlayst saying It’s trending worse than 360. Your only response to these facts is

”? Xbox is not a flop!!1”

? I’m sorry dude, you’re making it too easy for me to laugh at you. You’re a good cheerleader for Xbone but you fail at logical reasoning. You mistake your emotions for reality. You feel because you love the Xbone it means it can’t be doing bad. If it was doing well like you claim why isn’t MS sharing numbers? Why do we need to to rely on guess work and analysts like ZhugeEX for sales information? Why don’t they share numbers freely like Sony and Nintendo? When you can answer these questions truthfully and logically then I’ll stop laughing you.

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What is the appeal of owning a system with no killer apps?

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#61 xhawk27
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At least the X1X is going to outsell the PS4 Pro in every country except Japan. Bet on it.

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#62 hrt_rulz01
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@xhawk27 said:

At least the X1X is going to outsell the PS4 Pro in every country except Japan. Bet on it.

Yeah well that's no surprise, it's a proper upgrade... unlike the Pro.

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#63 omegaMaster
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XBone is deteriorating whilst the Switch and PS4 rise in prominence. Xbone might as well hide in the closet.

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#64 Pedro
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@quadknight said:

Dude, you’re about to have another meltdown in this thread, chill out.

Look at the facts we have here. In 4 years Xbone has only managed to sell about 30 million (we don’t know the exact numbers because MS keeps hiding them). At this rate no way in hell will it reach 85 million like 360 did. Then we have a well respected industry anlayst saying It’s trending worse than 360. Your only response to these facts is

”? Xbox is not a flop!!1”

? I’m sorry dude, you’re making it too easy for me to laugh at you. You’re a good cheerleader for Xbone but you fail at logical reasoning. You mistake your emotions for reality. You feel because you love the Xbone it means it can’t be doing bad. If it was doing well like you claim why isn’t MS sharing numbers? Why do we need to to rely on guess work and analysts like ZhugeEX for sales information? Why don’t they share numbers freely like Sony and Nintendo? When you can answer these questions truthfully and logically then I’ll stop laughing you.

You do know that saying meltdown and flop doesn't make the Xbox One a flop? No matter how many times you repeat it.

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#65  Edited By QuadKnight
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@Pedro said:
@quadknight said:

Dude, you’re about to have another meltdown in this thread, chill out.

Look at the facts we have here. In 4 years Xbone has only managed to sell about 30 million (we don’t know the exact numbers because MS keeps hiding them). At this rate no way in hell will it reach 85 million like 360 did. Then we have a well respected industry anlayst saying It’s trending worse than 360. Your only response to these facts is

”? Xbox is not a flop!!1”

? I’m sorry dude, you’re making it too easy for me to laugh at you. You’re a good cheerleader for Xbone but you fail at logical reasoning. You mistake your emotions for reality. You feel because you love the Xbone it means it can’t be doing bad. If it was doing well like you claim why isn’t MS sharing numbers? Why do we need to to rely on guess work and analysts like ZhugeEX for sales information? Why don’t they share numbers freely like Sony and Nintendo? When you can answer these questions truthfully and logically then I’ll stop laughing you.

You do know that saying meltdown and flop doesn't make the Xbox One a flop? No matter how many times you repeat it.

You do know saying it's not a flop in the face of overwhelming evidence that its a flop doesn't make it so right? Because no matter how many cry it isn't a flop the fact remains it is a flop. It's selling worse than the 360 and that by definition makes it a flop. If it wasn't a flop MS would happily share its sales numbers. They've been hiding sales numbers for years now and 2016 was the last time they said it was outselling 360.

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@Pedro said:
@quadknight said:

Dude, you’re about to have another meltdown in this thread, chill out.

Look at the facts we have here. In 4 years Xbone has only managed to sell about 30 million (we don’t know the exact numbers because MS keeps hiding them). At this rate no way in hell will it reach 85 million like 360 did. Then we have a well respected industry anlayst saying It’s trending worse than 360. Your only response to these facts is

”? Xbox is not a flop!!1”

? I’m sorry dude, you’re making it too easy for me to laugh at you. You’re a good cheerleader for Xbone but you fail at logical reasoning. You mistake your emotions for reality. You feel because you love the Xbone it means it can’t be doing bad. If it was doing well like you claim why isn’t MS sharing numbers? Why do we need to to rely on guess work and analysts like ZhugeEX for sales information? Why don’t they share numbers freely like Sony and Nintendo? When you can answer these questions truthfully and logically then I’ll stop laughing you.

You do know that saying meltdown and flop doesn't make the Xbox One a flop? No matter how many times you repeat it.

It seriously makes me laugh reading his drivel... I think this system wars sh*t is all he has in his life. I'm positive he rarely even plays games. And certainly doesn't buy any of the "exclusives" he drones on & on about.

Let's see how he responds... can he post something without saying "lem, flop, meltdown, Xbone, exclusive, ? etc". LOL.

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#67 Pedro
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@quadknight said:

You do know saying it's not a flop in the face of overwhelming evidence it is doesn't make it not a flop? Because no matter how many times you repeat it isn't a flop the fact remains it's a flop. If it wasn't a flop MS would happily share its sales numbers. They've been hiding sales numbers for years now and 2016 was the last time they said it was outselling 360.

Overwhelming evidence? The WiiU is a flop, Xbox One is not. Very simple and straight forward distinction between the two. Your ranting and usual nonsensical posting doesn't alter reality.

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@quadknight said:

MS is just throwing shit on the wall right now and hoping it sticks. They are done this gen.

They are doing everything they can now except addressing the elephant in the room that is their lack of games. They are toast this gen, and releasing new consoles like the X and S won’t save them. Best they can do now is cut their losses and try to do better next gen. Xbone is a total failure for them. Well, at least this debunks the lie lems are always saying about Xbone outpacing 360 anytime someone mentions its poor sales.

Microsoft just needs to stop. It's embarrassing at this point. Problem with them is that they get the exact same multiplats as Sony without unique exclusives. They also just rush and put their consoles out for sale without analyzing the market. Like in China. They just threw the Xbox One there like shit on a wall, and hope it stuck; unfortunately it didn't. The Xbox 360 was their best console, and it sold the least. If I were them, I would just focus on PC and call it a day.

Of course all companies have failures: Sega Dreamcast and Saturn, Nintendo Wii U and Virtual Boy, and Sony PS3. Though Microsoft hasn't had a win yet as far as consoles. Maybe next gen will prove me wrong...

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@Pedro said:
@quadknight said:

You do know saying it's not a flop in the face of overwhelming evidence it is doesn't make it not a flop? Because no matter how many times you repeat it isn't a flop the fact remains it's a flop. If it wasn't a flop MS would happily share its sales numbers. They've been hiding sales numbers for years now and 2016 was the last time they said it was outselling 360.

Overwhelming evidence? The WiiU is a flop, Xbox One is not. Very simple and straight forward distinction between the two. Your ranting and usual nonsensical posting doesn't alter reality.

Keep living in denial lol.

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#70  Edited By QuadKnight
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@luxuryheart said:
@quadknight said:

MS is just throwing shit on the wall right now and hoping it sticks. They are done this gen.

They are doing everything they can now except addressing the elephant in the room that is their lack of games. They are toast this gen, and releasing new consoles like the X and S won’t save them. Best they can do now is cut their losses and try to do better next gen. Xbone is a total failure for them. Well, at least this debunks the lie lems are always saying about Xbone outpacing 360 anytime someone mentions its poor sales.

Microsoft just needs to stop. It's embarrassing at this point. Problem with them is that they get the exact same multiplats as Sony without unique exclusives. They also just rush and put their consoles out for sale without analyzing the market. Like in China. They just threw the Xbox One there like shit on a wall, and hope it stuck; unfortunately it didn't. The Xbox 360 was their best console, and it sold the least. If I were them, I would just focus on PC and call it a day.

Of course all companies have failures: Sega Dreamcast and Saturn, Nintendo Wii U and Virtual Boy, and Sony PS3. Though Microsoft hasn't had a win yet as far as consoles. Maybe next gen will prove me wrong...

Yea, it's pretty sad to see. They just lack direction and focus in the console business. In the PC arena they are extremely focused and organized but when it comes to Xbox they are completely clueless. MS has been in the console business for almost 17 years and they still don't get it. They are still acting like amateurs that only got in 4 years ago, the shit is just baffling.

Maybe they'll finally pull their shit together next-gen but I'm not holding my breath. The launch of the X and S made me start thinking that they still don't know what they are doing. It's okay to have flops but when you keep doubling down on your mistakes instead of actually getting to the root and fixing the problem it becomes baffling.

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#71  Edited By LuxuryHeart
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@quadknight said:
@luxuryheart said:
@quadknight said:

MS is just throwing shit on the wall right now and hoping it sticks. They are done this gen.

They are doing everything they can now except addressing the elephant in the room that is their lack of games. They are toast this gen, and releasing new consoles like the X and S won’t save them. Best they can do now is cut their losses and try to do better next gen. Xbone is a total failure for them. Well, at least this debunks the lie lems are always saying about Xbone outpacing 360 anytime someone mentions its poor sales.

Microsoft just needs to stop. It's embarrassing at this point. Problem with them is that they get the exact same multiplats as Sony without unique exclusives. They also just rush and put their consoles out for sale without analyzing the market. Like in China. They just threw the Xbox One there like shit on a wall, and hope it stuck; unfortunately it didn't. The Xbox 360 was their best console, and it sold the least. If I were them, I would just focus on PC and call it a day.

Of course all companies have failures: Sega Dreamcast and Saturn, Nintendo Wii U and Virtual Boy, and Sony PS3. Though Microsoft hasn't had a win yet as far as consoles. Maybe next gen will prove me wrong...

Yea, it's pretty sad to see. They just lack direction and focus in the console business. In the PC arena they are extremely focused and organized but when it comes to Xbox they are completely clueless. MS has been in the console business for almost 17 years and they still don't get it. They are still acting like amateurs that only got in 4 years ago, the shit is just baffling.

Maybe they'll finally pull their shit together next-gen but I'm not holding my breath. The launch of the X and S made me start thinking that they still don't know what they are doing. It's okay to have flops but when you keep doubling down on your mistakes instead of actually getting to the root and fixing the problem it becomes baffling.

They should have done like Nintendo. Just throw Gen 8 away and start on Gen 9. Even though Nintendo made Wii U owners angry, it was best for business. Nintendo came back with the Switch and it seems to be doing well.

Microsoft has faulty logic:

1) put out expensive powerful console

2) put out cheap smaller console

3) ???

4) profit

They don't get it. People want GAMES, EXCLUSIVES. If you can't make games, then buy smaller studios that can make games for you. Plenty of innovative small teams (of 3-15 people) who want to make games for systems, just buy them or fund their game(s). You can even buy medium sized studios.

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@luxuryheart: Exactly, and part pf what's helping Nintendo right now is having the right messaging and GAMES. MS screwed up their messaging with the Xbone and instead of cutting and running they decided to double down on it with X and S while completely ignoring their games problem. A recipe for total disaster if I've ever seen one. That's why they are failing right now.

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#73  Edited By BenjaminBanklin
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@xhawk27 said:

At least the X1X is going to outsell the PS4 Pro in every country except Japan. Bet on it.

It will? The entry price is pretty steep, and it's still an Xbox One. It's just not a popular brand outside of the US.

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#74  Edited By GameboyTroy
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I don't think the XB1 can have another year like 2017. If this was the 5th gen and the Xbox barely gets good exclusives for 2 years in a row, the Xbox brand probably would've crashed.

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@davillain- said:
@StormyJoe said:

According to the link I provided in another response, it has sold over 30 million. Could that be better? Of course - but it's not horrible. Also, the 360 did just fine without international acceptance. So, your argument is a wee bit weak.

Your statement couldn't be more wrong. Xbox One selling just $30 million isn't good at all, it's been out for 4 years, it should have been way more then that now. $50-$60 million at least should have been more then good for MS but no! Look at Nintendo Switch, Switch sold over $10 million and we haven't even gotta to Switch first 1 year later. 4 years vs almost 1 year is obviously telling something that Switch will pass Xbox One in no time.

This current-gen is almost over now. Sorry but MS lost this gen big time! MS is just gonna have to try again next-gen.

That's... 30 million UNITS, not dollars.

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@@@

@quadknight said:
@StormyJoe said:
@quadknight said:

@StormyJoe: You are worse than a fanboy. Xbone is no. 2 for 2 months in the entire year in one country and you want us to believe it’s doing well. ? Talk about total delusion, you should really get your head out of MS’ butt, it’s not allowing enough oxygen to your brain.

According to the link I provided in another response, it has sold over 30 million. Could that be better? Of course - but it's not horrible. Also, the 360 did just fine without international acceptance. So, your argument is a wee bit weak.

Firstly, your link can’t confirm shit because MS doesn’t provide official numbers so it’s worthless.

Second, you’re falsely claiming the 360 has no international acceptance which is a flat out lie. 360 was selling well in Europe, a market that Xbone completely lost this gen when they decided to do their Tier1, Tier2, TV, NFL, DRM marketing strategy that alienated a lot of Europe.

The only place 360 wasn’t doing well was Japan. Xbone is doing so badly now that it only does okay in US and UK now while 360 was selling well in Germany,France, Spain, etc. last gen. Go look at European charts in GAF/Resetera if you think I’m lying.

LMAO@U. The source (which is a legit one) contradicts your beliefs, so the *source* must be wrong, not you. LOL..

Sorry, the "US and UK". Which, BTW, the XB1 is doing right now. Again, your points = worthless.

Thanks for playing.

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#77  Edited By QuadKnight
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@StormyJoe: ? How can the source be “legit” when MS shares no official numbers?

? GTFO clown, your “source” is garbage guess work and has no credit. Xbone is a flop and you need to deal with it.

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#78 StormyJoe
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@quadknight said:

@StormyJoe: ? How can the source be “legit” when MS shares no official numbers?

? GTFO clown, your “source” is garbage guess work and has no credit. Xbone is a flop and you need to deal with it.

LMFAO!!! Dem tears. Delicious...

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@StormyJoe said:
@quadknight said:

@StormyJoe: ? How can the source be “legit” when MS shares no official numbers?

? GTFO clown, your “source” is garbage guess work and has no credit. Xbone is a flop and you need to deal with it.

LMFAO!!! Dem tears. Delicious...

Mmmmmm....projected butthurt lem tears....

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#80  Edited By mowgly1
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Xbone in US is little over 20 mil. Around 3 mil. behind PS4. And US for Xbone is around 55-60% of total Xbone sales. Yes, Xbone passed 30 mil. LTD. Closer to 35 mil. and nothing more.