Xbox One should be $299 not $399

And Xbone still has that shitty controller that uses AA batteries like this is the 1950's.

And what I'm saying is that the advantages of GDDR5 are far greater than DDR3.

1. PS4's CPU still scored higher than Xbone's with DDR3.

2. Same card with different memory type gives greater performance with GDDR5.

3. PS4 has an equivalent to Tiled Textures. I'm not an expert at coding graphics but I'm pretty sure that Partially Resident Textures is pretty much the same a Tiled Textures and those are on PS4.

I provided a benchmark of the console's CPU and a link to the memory comparison. Meanwhile all you guys have is a theory.

I've used both extensively, and I find the X1 controller better for battery life, for that exact reason. I'm charging the PS4 controller continuously.

If Sony stepped up the battery, then that would be great. I even have the sensor light set to "Dim."

no thanks. my ps4 controller charges in like 5 minutes and that will always be better then having to buy batteries even if they last twice as long it's still shitty and archaic. Hated dealing with that shit last gen with the 360 controller.

So you're against them solely because they use traditional AA batteries. Okay then. The fact that I keep having to charge my PS4 controller whilst playing, is pretty damn annoying.

Batteries are cheap as shit. I get 60 for around $15.

no thanks. my ps4 controller charges in like 5 minutes and that will always be better then having to buy batteries even if they last twice as long it's still shitty and archaic. Hated dealing with that shit last gen with the 360 controller.

I've used rechargable AA batteries since the PS2 days (3rd party wireless controller).

I much rather standard AA batteries honestly, hate having to plug in my controller at all. When my batteries start running low, I swap in a recharged set and stick the dead ones in the charger. Simples and I'm never attached to the console buy a cord.

That "5 min charge time" had better be hyperbole. :/

Also I still think the XB1/X360 controller design is better. And I am a PS4 owner. The form factor ergonomics, stick layout, and trigger design is more advantageous. OK, so PS4 has better d-epad, but now that the XB1 has a proper plus shaped design on that, the difference is far less than it was last gen.

There's a sucker born every minute.

While I do not own an xbox or ps, I would think it would be more convenient to swap out rechargeable batteries to keep playing on the couch instead of having to plug the controller in where you are forced to stand 5 feet in front of your 60'' tv...

I'm a sucker for buying a Xbox One? Why is that? Keep in mind I also own a gaming PC and PS4 alongside my Xbox One.

They screwed up with the esram it made the apu more expensive than the ps4 even though its much weaker

I think the perfect price for a system using DDR3 and a 7770 is $329.99 but only cuz its new'ish. One year after console's launch it should drop to $299.99

Why?

Because for what it offers (power/higher price of XBL while not being better than PSN+/game library/all inferior third party now and the next hmmm whole generation) a $329.99 price tag is worth it as a secondary system. $500 makes no sense nor will $400.

So you aren't taking into account the cost of the system to manufacture? Odd, considering you referenced two specific components.

The estimated cost to manufacture has been linked a few times in the thread.

MS can lose money and wasn't that WITH the kinect? I mean, how pricey can a console be with an cellphone cpu, ultra low end gpu and some crappy RAM? Not an expert but something tells me not that much. Consoles (mainly wiiu and xbone) don't have anything special that costs boatload to produce.

itas not more expensive, its way cheaper

AMD charges the chip accourding to the tech inside it, the years spent on the development of the PC GPUs, not by the size of the die

Sure, gameplay overtakes graphics every time but graphics is essential to helping developers realize worlds they want to build. You certainly couldn't realize Liberty City on a monochrome Game Boy as it is just powerful enough to play either Pong or one of those early versions of Pokemon. In this case, PS4 can realize worlds a good bit better than Xbox One. Is PS4's power advantage a gamechanger? No, but it is more powerful, it improves gameplay experience, and so logic tells us to get PS4 if we want to be really sure we will get the best of everything. You don't get that guarantee with Xbox One as it has worse RAM and a weaker video card. It means if you don't mind a few things downgraded compared then you can buy Xbox One but for a lower price point. It's like choosing to pay for a Ford car when you could have got a Cadillac for the same price instead. It's a free donation to Microsoft in every sense.

And? Graphics being very important, but gameplay being even more so, isn't a contradiction. Only the Wii fanboys peddled that shit about graphics not mattering. They do, very much so. Even the Wii fanboys starting foaming at the mouth when they got to finally see Mario platforming and karting in glorious HD. And rightly so!

at same price level its "pay the same, get less" much like its also the Wii U

X1 is a 300 dollar PC but...

overpriced

with online subscription fee

very expensive games

stupdly overpriced periferals

subjected to government spionage

no backwards compatbility

no support for emulators or home brew

no possible way to play a game before paying for it

not upgradable

no replaceble parts

its like the worst PC you could possibly buy

I stated that the Kinect was estimated at $75 to manufacture. As did the other. So the answer would be to do some simple math.

It seems you have resorted to insulting an inanimate object, rather than refuting an industry cost estimation. If you don't have anything else, I guess we should part ways.

Can you build an identical PC for $300? You made the comparison.

lol i insulted the bone? oh the bone should feel bad right now. The system is weak, offers nothing else but Halo every 2-3 years, is significantly weaker than PS4 and is sold at the same price tag. This is fkedup no matter how much it cost to produce this thing.

be prepared for it to start a house fire

It should be 299 but if Microsoft introduces a white Xbox at E3, i will be buying one at 399.

@lundy86_4: One could build a quad core with a 7790 for about $300, yeah. No Windows though, so everyone would just say stupid things like "It needs the windows to play games!!!!111one", or "that power supply will burn down your house", or something equally stupid...

Given how it has worse RAM and video card the price drop from $499 to match PS4's $399 is nonsensical.

be prepared for it to start a house fire