Xbox One will do just fine

Most Xbox gamers already rely on using LIVE and the first thing they do is sign into Xbox LIVE. So really the 24 check in deal is not going to be that big of an issue.

When you buy a game digitally you can't rent, trade, loan or sell the game you bought. So in reality people have already been supporting DRM with the PS3 and Xbox 360.

As far as the Kinect goes you can disable it completely if you want to.

Xbox has some of the best exclusives in gaming and 3rd party support

Xbox LIVE is the best online gaming service for consoles

The price tag while it is more expensive than the PS4 the price is about right with the Kinect included.

So all in all the Xbox One really doesn't deserve all the hate that it's getting. While I understand why some people would be upset with the way that Microsoft is handling used games just look at digital games you can't even trade those in! So my prediction is that it will do just fine after people realize that they are just blowing shi** out of proportion on the Xbox One. What it's really going to come down to is GAMES and the Xbox One has plenty to go up against the PS4.

How many console gamers buy games digitally as compared to a physical copy?

Most Xbox gamers already rely on using LIVE and the first thing they do is sign into Xbox LIVE. So really the 24 check in deal is not going to be that big of an issue.

When you buy a game digitally you can't rent, trade, loan or sell the game you bought. So in reality people have already been supporting DRM with the PS3 and Xbox 360.

As far as the Kinect goes you can disable it completely if you want to.

Xbox has some of the best exclusives in gaming and 3rd party support

Xbox LIVE is the best online gaming service for consoles

The price tag while it is more expensive than the PS4 the price is about right with the Kinect included.

So all in all the Xbox One really doesn't deserve all the hate that it's getting. While I understand why some people would be upset with the way that Microsoft is handling used games just look at digital games you can't even trade those in! So my prediction is that it will do just fine after people realize that they are just blowing shi** out of proportion on the Xbox One. What it's really going to come down to is GAMES and the Xbox One has plenty to go up against the PS4.

whitetiger3521

You can keep telling yourself that. Without their big lead and the mentality that CoD is only on the 360, they are going to have it rough. 

In the real world, yes it will do fine. Just cause its getting alot of hate on the internet forums doesn't mean it wont do well.

You guys are liable to throw up if you keep spinning.

How many console gamers buy games digitally as compared to a physical copy?

Demonjoe93

Probally more than you think. I don't have numbers to throw out at you. But with games now going to be available day one digitally the sales on digital are just going to go up.

That's because this world is full of morons.

In the real world, yes it will do fine. Just cause its getting alot of hate on the internet forums doesn't mean it wont do well.

guard12

I wouldn't be to quick to assume that. The market is way different than when the 7th gen launched. Social media and the fact that your average consumer is more well informed on average is going to make people aware of these differences.

People aren't going to ignore the fact that the thing is launching $100 over its competition. 

Microsoft doesn't have a head start this time and their competition isn't fumbling the ball at every chance they get. They got last gen handed to them thanks to Sony being ridiculous at the beginning and Nintendo breaking off into a new market. Now they are the ones everybody is looking too and they are just failing.

Keep clinging on.

How is the Wii U doing? Oh, right. Everyone knows how underpowered it is due to word of mouth...-GeordiLaForge-

I think that has a lot to do with the fact that the Wii U has only a tiny handful of games that are worth playing. Even avid Nintendo fans have been holding off due to the tiny library. 

Most Xbox gamers already rely on using LIVE and the first thing they do is sign into Xbox LIVE. So really the 24 check in deal is not going to be that big of an issue.

When you buy a game digitally you can't rent, trade, loan or sell the game you bought. So in reality people have already been supporting DRM with the PS3 and Xbox 360.

As far as the Kinect goes you can disable it completely if you want to.

Xbox has some of the best exclusives in gaming and 3rd party support

Xbox LIVE is the best online gaming service for consoles

The price tag while it is more expensive than the PS4 the price is about right with the Kinect included.

So all in all the Xbox One really doesn't deserve all the hate that it's getting. While I understand why some people would be upset with the way that Microsoft is handling used games just look at digital games you can't even trade those in! So my prediction is that it will do just fine after people realize that they are just blowing shi** out of proportion on the Xbox One. What it's really going to come down to is GAMES and the Xbox One has plenty to go up against the PS4.

whitetiger3521

[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

How many console gamers buy games digitally as compared to a physical copy?

whitetiger3521

Probally more than you think. I don't have numbers to throw out at you. But with games now going to be available day one digitally the sales on digital are just going to go up.

Decided to Google it, and found this: http://www.gamespot.com/features/the-digital-revolution-how-consumers-are-driving-the-future-of-games-retail-6396713/

Physical sales are down and digital are up. It seems like digital will replace physical one day, but not for a while.

Sure lol. Lemmings....

[QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"]How is the Wii U doing? Oh, right. Everyone knows how underpowered it is due to word of mouth...Wasdie

I think that has a lot less to do with the fact that the Wii U has only a tiny handful of games that are worth playing. Even avid Nintendo fans have been holding off due to the tiny library. 

Avid Nintendo fan here, and that's exactly my reason. I don't really care that the Wii-U is underpowered. My reaon for holding out, like Wasdie said, is that it does not currently have enough games to really warrant a purchase by my standards. That and I have plenty of games of this gen left to play, and see no reason to buy a new console.

That's because this world is full of morons.

turtlethetaffer

[QUOTE="guard12"]

In the real world, yes it will do fine. Just cause its getting alot of hate on the internet forums doesn't mean it wont do well.

Wasdie

I wouldn't be to quick to assume that. The market is way different than when the 7th gen launched. Social media and the fact that your average consumer is more well informed on average is going to make people aware of these differences.

People aren't going to ignore the fact that the thing is launching $100 over its competition. 

Microsoft doesn't have a head start this time and their competition isn't fumbling the ball at every chance they get. They got last gen handed to them thanks to Sony being ridiculous at the beginning and Nintendo breaking off into a new market. Now they are the ones everybody is looking too and they are just failing.

It will bomb and bomb hard. 

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

That's because this world is full of morons.

Bruce_Benzing

:lol: OUCH!

So everything MS achieved last gen for 7 years was ONLy cause Sony messed up at the start and MS had a one year head start? Incredible Cow logic.shawn30

I'm a cow? News to me.

Anyways it wasn't the only reason, but it's a major factor. The PS3 ended up catching the 360 in worldwide sales and I believe it has even surpassed. 

Microsoft isn't helping their cause either. Their 1st party is pretty weak. This is by design. They don't want to put the R&D in for new games, they want their platform to emulate their business strategy they have for Windows where they only provide the platform and the 3rd party provides the software.

This doesn't work well when you don't own the market.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="guard12"]

In the real world, yes it will do fine. Just cause its getting alot of hate on the internet forums doesn't mean it wont do well.

shawn30

I wouldn't be to quick to assume that. The market is way different than when the 7th gen launched. Social media and the fact that your average consumer is more well informed on average is going to make people aware of these differences.

People aren't going to ignore the fact that the thing is launching $100 over its competition.

Microsoft doesn't have a head start this time and their competition isn't fumbling the ball at every chance they get. They got last gen handed to them thanks to Sony being ridiculous at the beginning and Nintendo breaking off into a new market. Now they are the ones everybody is looking too and they are just failing.

Yeah... according to this other guy Microsoft doesn't care about games either

From my earlier post. It will create a new higher class of gaming for a new gen of hardcore gamers. Not everyone will be able to enjoy this level of gaming, but not everyone gets to drive a Ferrari either. This will sort out the couch full of greasy monkeys playing Madden on a PS4 from the more sophisitcated gamer. FoxbatAlpha

2/10

That depends on your definition of fine.

1. it is the most expensive next gen console

2. It needs an internet conection and many places in the USA don't even have internet in their area

3. Sony is sure to get the word out on the used games/2nd hand games

4. The ps4 is stronger and I am sure that will be put out

Clearly the spybox1 has a uphill battle much like the ps3 had and it will affect their market share. If I am Sony I will be only too happy to point all this out in the marketing leading up to the launch date. The how to share used games video from e3 is just the tip of the iceberg.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="guard12"]

In the real world, yes it will do fine. Just cause its getting alot of hate on the internet forums doesn't mean it wont do well.

shawn30

I wouldn't be to quick to assume that. The market is way different than when the 7th gen launched. Social media and the fact that your average consumer is more well informed on average is going to make people aware of these differences.

People aren't going to ignore the fact that the thing is launching $100 over its competition. 

Microsoft doesn't have a head start this time and their competition isn't fumbling the ball at every chance they get. They got last gen handed to them thanks to Sony being ridiculous at the beginning and Nintendo breaking off into a new market. Now they are the ones everybody is looking too and they are just failing.

How many console gamers buy games digitally as compared to a physical copy?

Demonjoe93

MS will win the next gen, people said the same trash when XBL was pay to play OMG PAY TO PLAY WILL BE THE END OF MS BWHAHAHAHAHAHA ILL ENJOY FREE TO PLAY......not only did MS not DIE they BEAT sony this GEN! 

I don't see how they're going to do that well selling in such a small part of the world. They've cut their market presence by nearly two thirds. Ninja-Hippo

Not only that but there are still millions of people in America, UK and Europe without internet or with crappy internet so that shrinks their market even more. Then there are all the people in those countries who won't support the Xbones game policy. M$ is selling to an incredibly small group of people.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="guard12"]

In the real world, yes it will do fine. Just cause its getting alot of hate on the internet forums doesn't mean it wont do well.

shawn30

I wouldn't be to quick to assume that. The market is way different than when the 7th gen launched. Social media and the fact that your average consumer is more well informed on average is going to make people aware of these differences.

People aren't going to ignore the fact that the thing is launching $100 over its competition.

Microsoft doesn't have a head start this time and their competition isn't fumbling the ball at every chance they get. They got last gen handed to them thanks to Sony being ridiculous at the beginning and Nintendo breaking off into a new market. Now they are the ones everybody is looking too and they are just failing.

I agree yet I dont agree with you Wasdie. MS is incredible at marketing and has the money to fuel a bombardment of ads to hype it up if they do choose to do so. And yes, we are a more informed public now due to the rise of social media but, to non-core gamers they are gonna just stick to what they know and by name which is Xbox. Its the same thing for apple really. People buy apple products just cause of the name.

I'm sure it'll do fine and be great gaming console while fully experiencing it's (k)inected functionality and all it has to offer, but the fact still remains that not everyone has the internet and all the millions who purchase used games for there entertainment - who Microsoft could care less about - may not want to go through all the trouble and end up gaming on Sony platforms.

I'm sure the experience will be just as great, but they won't sell nearly the amount of console's Sony will end up having when it's all said and done which in turn might be difficult for them to lock up 3rd party content; such as, Sony in the future.

We will all have to wait and see.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]I don't see how they're going to do that well selling in such a small part of the world. They've cut their market presence by nearly two thirds. NathanDrakeSwag

Not only that but there are still millions of people in America, UK and Europe without internet or with crappy internet so that shrinks their market even more. Then there are all the people in those countries who won't support the Xbones game policy. M$ is selling to an incredibly small group of people.

I think so too. No way it dominates, no way it flops. Quite literally just fine.Floppy_Jim

You can keep telling yourself that. Without their big lead and the mentality that CoD is only on the 360, they are going to have it rough. 

Wasdie

[QUOTE="shawn30"]So everything MS achieved last gen for 7 years was ONLy cause Sony messed up at the start and MS had a one year head start? Incredible Cow logic.Wasdie

I'm a cow? News to me.

Anyways it wasn't the only reason, but it's a major factor. The PS3 ended up catching the 360 in worldwide sales and I believe it has even surpassed. 

Microsoft isn't helping their cause either. Their 1st party is pretty weak. This is by design. They don't want to put the R&D in for new games, they want their platform to emulate their business strategy they have for Windows where they only provide the platform and the 3rd party provides the software.

This doesn't work well when you don't own the market.

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]I think so too. No way it dominates, no way it flops. Quite literally just fine.ToScA-

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

You can keep telling yourself that. Without their big lead and the mentality that CoD is only on the 360, they are going to have it rough. 

blackace

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]I don't see how they're going to do that well selling in such a small part of the world. They've cut their market presence by nearly two thirds. Ninja-Hippo

Not only that but there are still millions of people in America, UK and Europe without internet or with crappy internet so that shrinks their market even more. Then there are all the people in those countries who won't support the Xbones game policy. M$ is selling to an incredibly small group of people.

I wouldn't go so far to say there poor, but some gamers such as myself could careless about multiplayer. I can't remember the last time I played a multiplayer game to be honest... the fact still remains you can't play a single game UNLESS you have some sort of access to the internet.

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]I think so too. No way it dominates, no way it flops. Quite literally just fine.ToScA-

There are too many Halo, CoD, Madden, Forza fans and- hell, I'll say it -idiots for that to happen. I hope Sony continue to get the better of them resulting in a major, major rethink for the Xbox brand.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]I don't see how they're going to do that well selling in such a small part of the world. They've cut their market presence by nearly two thirds. NathanDrakeSwag

Not only that but there are still millions of people in America, UK and Europe without internet or with crappy internet so that shrinks their market even more. Then there are all the people in those countries who won't support the Xbones game policy. M$ is selling to an incredibly small group of people.

[QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]I think so too. No way it dominates, no way it flops. Quite literally just fine.blackace

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]I don't see how they're going to do that well selling in such a small part of the world. They've cut their market presence by nearly two thirds. Ninja-Hippo

Not only that but there are still millions of people in America, UK and Europe without internet or with crappy internet so that shrinks their market even more. Then there are all the people in those countries who won't support the Xbones game policy. M$ is selling to an incredibly small group of people.

Not true if you live out in the country or in a small town chances are you won't have internet. ISP's are not going to spend money to serve a small number of people.

no-scope-AK47

I keep seeing the "only people online are complaining" argument but you're really downplaying how much bad press Microsoft has gotten. This isn't just a video game forum thing, the bad rep has spread like wildfire on facebook and twitter. People gave the PS3 a similar reaction 7 years ago. But hey, what does the internet know?

The casual audience are not the ones who go out in droves to pick up consoles on lauch, let alone ones that are selling for $500.

SALES:

PS4 - 90 million

X1 - 55 million

Wii U - 30 million