@jhcho2 said:
@TigerSuperman said:
@jhcho2 said:
@Shewgenja said:
@TigerSuperman said:
CD-I didn't fail. Blu-ray wouldn't exist without it. Nor would DVD's or white book(Video CDs)
Whoah there, cowboy. Are you saying the SegaCD never happened?
Yes. That's more or less what he's saying. He's also assuming that the introduction of disc based formats was pioneered by consoles, which it wasn't. The CD-Rom already existed for PCs even during the NES period. So somewhere along the line, in an alternate dimension, where CD-i didn't get released, Sony & Philips decided to scrap the already existing development of disc based formats despite it's superiority of space over other formats. And they did that.....just because they can.....or so sayeth the clairvoyant Tigersuperman
Wrong, Phillips CD-I was the direct result after they had worked on CDs, because they wanted to create a multi-feature media format, I know you're stupid like most people here, but you might want to know what you're talking about. Philips did CD-I for the same reasons they did DVD, Video CD's came off of CD-I once the interactive portion didn't really become popular. Both White(or was videocd's yellow?)book and Greenbook led to DVDs. CDs at the time of the CD-I were still trying to be figured out for the most part. And using the Sega CD as an example of anything is sheer stupidity. Like yourself.
Lol, saying that the CD-i was solely and directly responsible for the advancement of CD to DVD is like saying the SNES was solely responsible for the progression from 8-bit processors to 16-bit processors. Just because the SNES had a 16-bit processor, it doesn't mean that without the SNES, the 8-bit processors would remain as 8-bit forever. Just because the CD-i gave a push for the development of DVDs, it doesn't mean that DVDs, or something equivalent with a different name, wouldn't eventually get developed.
You obviously don't quite understand how technology works. Everything gets smaller with time - transistors and even the pits for discs. The primary difference between a CD, DVD and Bluray are basically the pit sizes. Smaller pits means more space and faster read times. The CD-i couldn't have prevented this natural progression in any way. The only thing it could have influenced is the time of commercial introduction of DVDs. If it didn't happen in 1995, it would have happened in 1996 or 1997 anyway. But to say that a naturally progression would stop short due to the absence of one product is just silly
Yep let's ignore Philips own mouth about DVD being a continuation of CD-I due to low adoptiion. The issues is people like you are stupid, and don't know what the CD-I actually is, it's a disc format. It operated the same as DVD, tons of companies made thier own, and Philips, and they all would play the CD's. It had not only games and interactive media, it had photoCD's, and Movies as well that were released on the format. It's literally the direct reason why DVD's exist as well as VideoCDs which were movie only media distributed to countries with lower income where for the most part the CD-I was not released in.
I never said Blu-ray wouldn't have happened, because you made that up to make your argument almost look less stupid, instead it's the current way Blu-ray exists that was caused directly from the joint efforts of Philips(mostly) and Sony, which led to even SOny going into the video game industry in the first place.
@neo418 said:
@TigerSuperman said:
@neo418 said:
@Shewgenja said:
@TigerSuperman said:
@Shewgenja said:
@TigerSuperman said:
Yep no other consoles has// wait... yes they have.
Name one other console that dropped $150 from its launch price within a year. Just one.
3DO.
edit: And Cd-I, and Neo-Geo, and Saturn.
Well, I stand corrected. Let it not be said I am not sporting about this. I have been owned.
And all of those systems were a failure.... So basically the xone is not in good company
CD-I didn't fail. Blu-ray wouldn't exist without it. Nor would DVD's or white book(Video CDs)
Another lesson is all those dropped the prices more and faster, so it's not really a sign at all. I mean Xbox One is still selling.
@LJS9502_basic said:
@FastRobby said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
LOL playing fast and loose with terms. Look MS dropped the price...it wasn't selling. To not take a bath with the price drop they removed a bit of tech. But they still had to drop the price to try to compete. It really is that simple. Stop rooting for a console and look at the big picture.
The Xbox One wasn't selling as good as the PS4, so Microsoft dropped the Kinect for a different SKU. That's the story. No price drop, except for the $50 price drop. No $150 price drop, that's just what cows want to hear.
Wrong. I generally game on anything and everything. No one company gets all my gaming money. I leave it to the brand to do for me....I don't do for them. So when I comment it's from a dispassionate standpoint. You are brand loyal and won't see the reality. FYI a $50 price drop is still a price drop. Also the lack of sales made MS backtrack on their vision for the console to be the center of the living room. And if you can't see that as a negative then I don't know what to tell you. From start to finish this console has gotten backlash starting at the original E3...and MS has done 180s so often I believe they are now dizzy.
They didn't backtrack on the living room they backtracked on one goal involved in that vision. They are still making the Xbox One a large multimedia center with TV, the only thing they backtracked on was kinect, everything else is still happening. (there really hasn't been THAT many 180's either, people think this yet that's not actually happeneing)
With that said, Kinect was pushed hard so that backtrack may have caused some things to be restructured with their future projections.
Straight from the internet:
"The failure of the CD-i caused Philips to leave the video game industry after it was discontinued."
Except this is not true at all since Philips helped work on Necs second system, and the fact the CD-I wasn't even a direct competitor, it was a multi-media device, and in some places theydid advertise it as a gaming alternative, but that's like comparing consoles to PC and doesn't make an ounce of sense. I mean if you got that from wiki, that's even worse, because the CD-I failed long before it's continuation and Philips held it until 1998. So you might as well go back to the hole you crawled from.
Anyway back on topic Xbox One will win march NPD.
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