Xbox onwers, does Japan still not matter? Looks at 2016...

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#1  Edited By kinectthedots
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It just feels like japan is taking those comments I heard so often earlier this gen and shoving it in the face of posters who were all about that silly idea as if they were on to something real.

All you hear from certain users is hateful derogatory rhetoric every time something from japan is mentioned--Labeling everything from Japan "weaboo trash" but here we are in 2015 and we have 4 GS AAAA games so far....2 of them are JAPANESE!

The only AAA industry certified exclusive games released on consoles so far this gen are:

  • Super Mario 3D World (93 mc)
  • Super Smash Bros. for Wii U (92 mc)
  • Bloodborne (92 mc)
  • Bayonetta 2 (91 mc)

That's it, and guess what they all have in common? Yep, ALL of them are from Japan!

Maybe Japan got the message somewhere that xbox owners don't appreciate what Japan has to offer in games and thus are electing to omit their biggest franchises from even being on the xbox system. To me one of the biggest games to come out on xbone next year or this gen (scalebound) is japanse which is ironic knowing the tone I"ve heard in the past about japanese games.

Like it or not there are tons of games coming out from Japan in 2016 that and a lot are not coming to xbone. Look and decided if you hate them all, will enjoy what is offered or realize that you are going to miss out...

HERE IS WHAT 2016 AND BEYOND LOOKS LIKE FROM JAPANESE GAMES

Add some more games for the fvck of it..

And this isn't even close to being complete...

Looking at the list, do you still think Japan doesn't matter? Or was it silly to even suggest such nonsnese as "Japan doesn't matter" knowing that it has been a driving force in videogames ever since the NES/Genesis era of gaming?

Some of the most high quality games this gen are Japanese and it doesn't look like that is going to change any time soon.

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#3 Snugenz
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Links to all Xbox owners claiming Japan didn't matter please.

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#5 NathanDrakeSwag
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@2_Quiet_2_Riot: What they don't like are the ones xbone doesn't get.

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#6 soulitane
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Can't say I'm that interested in most of those.

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#7 cainetao11
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I know I never said that. I like games that I like. I don't get into the traditional JRPGs, have seen threads here arguing whether Souls games are actually JRPGs. Some say that term is a sub genre of RPG and some say if it is made by Japanese devs then its a JRPG.

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#8  Edited By kinectthedots
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@Snugenz said:

Links to all Xbox owners claiming Japan didn't matter please.

lol really?

denial is what I should expect in hindsight when stupid proclamations come back to bite fanboys in the ass but..here

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/why-japan-doesn-t-have-a-bright-future-in-video-ga-31977608/

here

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/what-happened-to-japanese-developers-32231060/

here

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/how-relevant-is-japan-in-the-gaming-market-28998701/

here

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/is-japan-s-game-industry-a-sinking-ship-31232672/

here

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/is-japan-now-completely-irrelevant-31065387/

Lot of comments now looking back at them are funny but again, that is hindsight...

It's either japan going moble, on decline or don't matter anymore from a lot of xbox fans up til now. I konw you've heard it as an xbox fan yourself and the only people making these comments and threads are known xbox fanboys and PC fans.

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All <------

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@2_Quiet_2_Riot said:

I think you've misunderstood about what most Xbox fans/owners don't like when Japanese games comes into issue. It's NOT that they "hate" Japanese games and label them as "weeaboo".

It's the JRPG genre that most of them DONT like at all.

So.......................how come the same xbox fanboys said they LOVED Lost Odyssey and Tales of Vesperia last gen???????

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#11 Ten_Pints
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You can't deny Japanese developers are become less relevant each year though, they are not as big as they once where in terms of chucking out games.

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@kinectthedots said:
@2_Quiet_2_Riot said:

I think you've misunderstood about what most Xbox fans/owners don't like when Japanese games comes into issue. It's NOT that they "hate" Japanese games and label them as "weeaboo".

It's the JRPG genre that most of them DONT like at all.

So.......................how come the same xbox fanboys said they LOVED Lost Odyssey and Tales of Vesperia last gen???????

How do you know they're the same?

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#13  Edited By kinectthedots
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@ten_pints said:

You can't deny Japanese developers are become less relevant each year though, they are not as big as they once where in terms of chucking out games.

lol see! Now looking at my list of huge diverse titles which is not even nearly complete, all I can think about is how silly you sound saying this.

You do realize that damn near the biggest and most important exclusive game for xbone next year is Japanese right?

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Other than Mario n'such, I don't care about japanese games.

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#15  Edited By kinectthedots
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@lostrib said:
@kinectthedots said:
@2_Quiet_2_Riot said:

I think you've misunderstood about what most Xbox fans/owners don't like when Japanese games comes into issue. It's NOT that they "hate" Japanese games and label them as "weeaboo".

It's the JRPG genre that most of them DONT like at all.

So.......................how come the same xbox fanboys said they LOVED Lost Odyssey and Tales of Vesperia last gen???????

How do you know they're the same?

by their user names...the same way you know to stalk/troll all my posts!

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Japan FTW. Only butthurt lems say Japan doesn't matter because Japanese devs ignore Xbone.

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#17  Edited By FireEmblem_Man
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Everyone acts like JRPG's are the most important genre for gaming. Problem is they are not system sellers unless you're the Final Fantasy franchise or the Soul Series.

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#18  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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@FireEmblem_Man: Them arent system sellers either. GTA, Madden, NBA2K, FIFA, CoD, these are system sellers. People will buy a whole system and just one of these games a year and be happy.

Congrats to Wii U though, she all about that quality.

@kinectthedots: Your forgetting about 3DS mate.

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#19 kinectthedots
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@quadknight said:

Japan FTW. Only butthurt lems say Japan doesn't matter because Japanese devs ignore Xbone.

Their gaming cateloge is just huge coming up to 2016.

When you think about just the vast amount coupled with the quality that is coming from this one small country it really is amazing. There are a lot of people who are really salty and hate with all their being when anything Japanese gets praised but hell look at the stats.

4 GS AAAA games so far....2 of them are JAPANESE!

The only exclusive games released on consoles so far this gen to be industry certified AAA are:

  • Super Mario 3D World (93 mc)
  • Super Smash Bros. for Wii U (92 mc)
  • Bloodborne (92 mc)
  • Bayonetta 2 (91 mc)

ALL JAPANESE!!!!

There is no denying japan is a powerhouse in the gaming world as far as quality goes no matter how much some hate that fact. Looking at 2016 Japan looks to be coming back stronger than ever and I am loving the butthurt by some that can't stand it.

Xbox fans say they don't like Japanese games and they don't matter but both Metacritic and Gamespot agree that Bloodborne >>>> Halo 5. It looks like most unbiased critical reviewers don't agree with what many of these people say about japanese games.

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@mesome713 said:

@FireEmblem_Man:

@kinectthedots: Your forgetting about 3DS mate.

Too many gamez...I just focused on consoles but yeah 3DS rules but it was one reason people were saying Japan didn't matter and on the decline because they were focusing on handhelds but that looks to be changing now.

I really wanted to see Japanese games on a bigger scale last gen only to have most of them restricted to handhelds where this gen is a more even playing field.

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@kinectthedots said:
@lostrib said:
@kinectthedots said:
@2_Quiet_2_Riot said:

I think you've misunderstood about what most Xbox fans/owners don't like when Japanese games comes into issue. It's NOT that they "hate" Japanese games and label them as "weeaboo".

It's the JRPG genre that most of them DONT like at all.

So.......................how come the same xbox fanboys said they LOVED Lost Odyssey and Tales of Vesperia last gen???????

How do you know they're the same?

by their user names...the same way you know to stalk/troll all my posts!

So which ones are you talking about?

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#22 lostrib
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heh, it says "onwers"

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#23 clone01
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@lostrib said:

heh, it says "onwers"

onwers and upwards, I guess.

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#24 Shadowchronicle
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I'm sad, I played a tales game on the xbox.

;_;

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#25  Edited By NyaDC
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It's not Japanese games that are the problem, it's the crappy little anime JRPG shovelware being forced on the market with nothing to counter it.

The PlayStation 4 is ridiculously saturated with this junk, it's becoming like the indie game shitshow that Steam turned into.

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@mesome713 said:

@FireEmblem_Man: Them arent system sellers either. GTA, Madden, NBA2K, FIFA, CoD, these are system sellers. People will buy a whole system and just one of these games a year and be happy.

Congrats to Wii U though, she all about that quality.

Wii U is all about quality? Is that your feeble excuse on why Wii U's aren't selling because they have a small library of quality games that no one wants to play? Compared to the Xbox One and PS4 that has all the games you listed that everyone wants to play? How dense are you?

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@kinectthedots said:
@mesome713 said:

@FireEmblem_Man:

@kinectthedots: Your forgetting about 3DS mate.

Too many gamez...I just focused on consoles but yeah 3DS rules but it was one reason people were saying Japan didn't matter and on the decline because they were focusing on handhelds but that looks to be changing now.

I really wanted to see Japanese games on a bigger scale last gen only to have most of them restricted to handhelds where this gen is a more even playing field.

Its all good, i think only 1 or 2 would qualify.

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Looks more like it is the haters who are irrelevant more than anything else.

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#29 kinectthedots
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@nyadc said:

It's not Japanese games that are the problem, it's the crappy little anime JRPG shovelware being forced on the market with nothing to counter it.

The PlayStation 4 is ridiculously saturated with this junk, it's becoming like the indie game shitshow that Steam turned into.

Yet, not one game I have listed here is indie....way to fail.

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#30  Edited By lostrib
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@kinectthedots said:
@nyadc said:

It's not Japanese games that are the problem, it's the crappy little anime JRPG shovelware being forced on the market with nothing to counter it.

The PlayStation 4 is ridiculously saturated with this junk, it's becoming like the indie game shitshow that Steam turned into.

Yet, not one game I have listed here is indie....way to fail.

...you can't be serious

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#32  Edited By deactivated-5d1e44cf96229
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Xbox owners do not hate all Japanese games. I think that there is only one type of Japanese game that for the most part, a lot of Xbox owners don't care for, and that is the JRPG genre. Fans of JRPGs tend to gravitate towards Playstation consoles, so there is not a big fanbase for that genre on Xbox.

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#33  Edited By lostrib
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@kinectthedots said:
@lostrib said:
@kinectthedots said:
@nyadc said:

It's not Japanese games that are the problem, it's the crappy little anime JRPG shovelware being forced on the market with nothing to counter it.

The PlayStation 4 is ridiculously saturated with this junk, it's becoming like the indie game shitshow that Steam turned into.

Yet, not one game I have listed here is indie....way to fail.

...you can't be serious

Are you trying to show yourself as a hypocrite again idiot?

You praised indies and all that with PC games time and time again, you need to cool your fanboy jets trying to find something to jump on with every post I make like a deranged maniac.

"crappy little anime JRPG shovelware" if you are suggesting anything here fits that description please point that out if not STFU. You are really loosing your fakeboy mojo trying to cover for one of nyadc's posts.

I think you may need to read over the conversation before you get your panties in a bunch

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#34 lundy86_4
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The region where you're losing heavily always "doesn't matter." Same last gen, same this gen.

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What's the problem. In the West they are less relevant than they were. They used to rule the Western markets, now Western gamers move towards Western games for the most part. That list you just made wouldn't exactly dwarf a Western list would it? Also note that a lot of the Japanese games now, are designed with a Western direction to appeal to the West. Even the PS3 and PS4 are more Western centric than the PS1 and PS2. So they're hardly dominating are they.

Some of that list is strange, what is it with GT, PS2 nostalgia? Because that's how far back you have to go with that one. Tekken has been hit and miss for a while. Zelda is hit and miss with all that milking. Bayonetta sold like shit in the West, which is why it's exclusive to Nintendo now. Some of these games you list just because they're Japanese. Why Star Fox? Hasn't had the best track record either.

Also cows spend probably more time bashing Mario than anyone else.

But none of this means I don't like Japanese games though. If you're into JRPGs, Japan is a really big deal. I like Japanese games too, but they certainly aren't as big of a deal to me as they once were.

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#36  Edited By UltimateImp
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@kinectthedots said:
@lostrib said:

...you can't be serious

Are you trying to show yourself as a hypocrite again idiot?

You praised indies and all that with PC games time and time again, you need to cool your fanboy jets trying to find something to jump on with every post I make like a deranged maniac.

"crappy little anime JRPG shovelware" if you are suggesting anything here fits that description please point that out if not STFU. You are really loosing your fakeboy mojo trying to cover for one of nyadc's posts.

To be fair. Some of the games you listed fit that criteria.

  • Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem
  • Persona 5
  • Star Ocean
  • Fire Emblem
  • And the girl with the massive titties game at the top
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#37  Edited By kinectthedots
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@ultimateimp said:
@kinectthedots said:
@lostrib said:

...you can't be serious

Are you trying to show yourself as a hypocrite again idiot?

You praised indies and all that with PC games time and time again, you need to cool your fanboy jets trying to find something to jump on with every post I make like a deranged maniac.

"crappy little anime JRPG shovelware" if you are suggesting anything here fits that description please point that out if not STFU. You are really loosing your fakeboy mojo trying to cover for one of nyadc's posts.

To be fair. Some of the games you listed fit that criteria.

  • Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem
  • Persona 5
  • Star Ocean
  • Fire Emblem
  • Street Fighter 5
  • And the girl with the massive titties game at the top

lists Street Fighter V....shovelware?....lol please just stop posting.

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#38  Edited By UltimateImp
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@kinectthedots: Yes, Street Fighter is a game so shallow that it appeals to sexually frustrated teenagers, just like all the other JRPGs listed there. Just add an affection scale, and it will be a full on JRPG garbage. You asked which fit the criteria, and you got your answer.

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In the grand scheme of things, Japanese games are pretty niche. Sure they appeal to people like us, proper gamers who can appreciate them but to the average joe most don't care. Most are happy with the CODs, Halos, ACs etc. You know, the super massive budget AAA titles that get all the TV time.

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@ultimateimp said:

@kinectthedots: Yes, Street Fighter is a game so shallow that it appeals to sexually frustrated teenagers, just like all the other JRPGs listed there. Just add an affection scale, and it will be a full on JRPG garbage.

WOW...

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@clyde46 said:

In the grand scheme of things, Japanese games are pretty niche. Sure they appeal to people like us, proper gamers who can appreciate them but to the average joe most don't care. Most are happy with the CODs, Halos, ACs etc. You know, the super massive budget AAA titles that get all the TV time.

Nah the "proper" gamers would play just about anything else.

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#42  Edited By UltimateImp
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@kinectthedots said:
@ultimateimp said:

@kinectthedots: Yes, Street Fighter is a game so shallow that it appeals to sexually frustrated teenagers, just like all the other JRPGs listed there. Just add an affection scale, and it will be a full on JRPG garbage.

WOW...

Don't worry though, western developers are just as bad. Cough CDPR cough.

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@lostrib said:
@kinectthedots said:
@lostrib said:
@kinectthedots said:
@nyadc said:

It's not Japanese games that are the problem, it's the crappy little anime JRPG shovelware being forced on the market with nothing to counter it.

The PlayStation 4 is ridiculously saturated with this junk, it's becoming like the indie game shitshow that Steam turned into.

Yet, not one game I have listed here is indie....way to fail.

...you can't be serious

Are you trying to show yourself as a hypocrite again idiot?

You praised indies and all that with PC games time and time again, you need to cool your fanboy jets trying to find something to jump on with every post I make like a deranged maniac.

"crappy little anime JRPG shovelware" if you are suggesting anything here fits that description please point that out if not STFU. You are really loosing your fakeboy mojo trying to cover for one of nyadc's posts.

I think you may need to read over the conversation before you get your panties in a bunch

At times I feel he scans posts for key words and doesn't bother to read. At least I hope that's the reason.

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@ultimateimp said:
@kinectthedots said:
@ultimateimp said:

@kinectthedots: Yes, Street Fighter is a game so shallow that it appeals to sexually frustrated teenagers, just like all the other JRPGs listed there. Just add an affection scale, and it will be a full on JRPG garbage.

WOW...

Don't worry though, western developers are just as bad. Cough CDPR cough.

What? CDPR is the best Dev in the West right now!

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Microsoft is x'boned in 2016. Glad I also own a PS4.

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#47  Edited By FireEmblem_Man
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@Legend002 said:

Microsoft is x'boned in 2016. Glad I also own a PS4.

Good for you, no one gives a damn about your Japanese fetish :P

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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@Legend002 said:

Microsoft is x'boned in 2016. Glad I also own a PS4.

Good for you, no one gives a damn about your Japanese fetish :P

The only fetish I have is for AAA titles and hardly that's a fetish.

*also CDProjekt is not a Western developer lmao

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@Legend002 said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@Legend002 said:

Microsoft is x'boned in 2016. Glad I also own a PS4.

Good for you, no one gives a damn about your Japanese fetish :P

The only fetish I have is for AAA titles and hardly that's a fetish.

*also CDProjekt is not a Western developer lmao

Europe is considered a western continent, yes Poland and Russia are eastern European nations, but they're no where near Eastern nations. So HA! :P

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#50 Legend002
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@FireEmblem_Man: You can't consider them something they are not. They are eastern developers.