Xbox sales decline suggests a further price drop is needed

Micrsoft need to get serious in 2010 and do the following...

Ditch the HDless arcade model and replace with a version with HD for about the same price

Include wireless in all consoles. Selling wireless as an addon (a really expensive one) makes the 360 a really bad value proposition for anyone needing to connect wirelessly.

As things stand the 360 is just too damn expensive when compared to the PS3 slim.

I just think that everyone who wants a 360 already has one.

They will probably do something massive with the launch of Natal. Something to get the casuals to buy it.

Micrsoft need to get serious in 2010 and do the following...

Ditch the HDless arcade model and replace with a version with HD for about the same price

Include wireless in all consoles. Selling wireless as an addon (a really expensive one) makes the 360 a really bad value proposition for anyone needing to connect wirelessly.

As things stand the 360 is just too damn expensive when compared to the PS3 slim.

[QUOTE="teh_cell"]

Micrsoft need to get serious in 2010 and do the following...

Ditch the HDless arcade model and replace with a version with HD for about the same price

Include wireless in all consoles. Selling wireless as an addon (a really expensive one) makes the 360 a really bad value proposition for anyone needing to connect wirelessly.

As things stand the 360 is just too damn expensive when compared to the PS3 slim.

monson21502

No. Where did you get that ridiculous idea?

Micrsoft need to get serious in 2010 and do the following...

Ditch the HDless arcade model and replace with a version with HD for about the same price

Include wireless in all consoles. Selling wireless as an addon (a really expensive one) makes the 360 a really bad value proposition for anyone needing to connect wirelessly.

As things stand the 360 is just too damn expensive when compared to the PS3 slim.

teh_cell

Micrsoft need to get serious in 2010 and do the following...

Ditch the HDless arcade model and replace with a version with HD for about the same price

Include wireless in all consoles. Selling wireless as an addon (a really expensive one) makes the 360 a really bad value proposition for anyone needing to connect wirelessly.

As things stand the 360 is just too damn expensive when compared to the PS3 slim.

[QUOTE="monson21502"] wasn`t last month its best selling month ever?????teh_cell

No. Where did you get that ridiculous idea?

from microsoft

Wait what? Isn't the PS3 still last place? If so why would a poster named teh_cell make a thread saying the 360 needs a price drop and not the PS3??? Hey wait a second your not one of those crazy Sony employees that go on forums trying to bash the 360?CanYouDiglt

The PS3 came out over 12 months after the 360, Microsoft grabbed first mover advantage this gen, and made a lot of sales to people just itching to buy whatever system came out first. The problem for Microsoft is that their sales lead is eroding at an increasing rate.

[QUOTE="teh_cell"]

Micrsoft need to get serious in 2010 and do the following...

Ditch the HDless arcade model and replace with a version with HD for about the same price

Include wireless in all consoles. Selling wireless as an addon (a really expensive one) makes the 360 a really bad value proposition for anyone needing to connect wirelessly.

As things stand the 360 is just too damn expensive when compared to the PS3 slim.

clone01

And if the North America made up the entirety or even the bulk of console buyers, you may have an argument. Sadly, neither of these things is true.

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Wait what? Isn't the PS3 still last place? If so why would a poster named teh_cell make a thread saying the 360 needs a price drop and not the PS3??? Hey wait a second your not one of those crazy Sony employees that go on forums trying to bash the 360?teh_cell

The PS3 came out over 12 months after the 360, Microsoft grabbed first mover advantage this gen, and made a lot of sales to people just itching to buy whatever system came out first. The problem for Microsoft is that their sales lead is eroding at an increasing rate.

[QUOTE="teh_cell"]

[QUOTE="monson21502"] wasn`t last month its best selling month ever?????kolkov01

No. Where did you get that ridiculous idea?

from microsoft

So when Sony say the PS3 is the most powerful console I assume you take that at face value too?

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="teh_cell"]

Micrsoft need to get serious in 2010 and do the following...

Ditch the HDless arcade model and replace with a version with HD for about the same price

Include wireless in all consoles. Selling wireless as an addon (a really expensive one) makes the 360 a really bad value proposition for anyone needing to connect wirelessly.

As things stand the 360 is just too damn expensive when compared to the PS3 slim.

teh_cell

And if the North America made up the entirety or even the bulk of console buyers, you may have an argument. Sadly, neither of these things is true.

So when Sony say the PS3 is the most powerful console I assume you take that at face value too?

teh_cell

[QUOTE="teh_cell"]

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Wait what? Isn't the PS3 still last place? If so why would a poster named teh_cell make a thread saying the 360 needs a price drop and not the PS3??? Hey wait a second your not one of those crazy Sony employees that go on forums trying to bash the 360?CanYouDiglt

The PS3 came out over 12 months after the 360, Microsoft grabbed first mover advantage this gen, and made a lot of sales to people just itching to buy whatever system came out first. The problem for Microsoft is that their sales lead is eroding at an increasing rate.

I didn't see the point. If I say I'm not a Sony employee, you'll likely conclude I am and just lying about it.

I just think that everyone who wants a 360 already has one.

Squall18

I just think that everyone who wants a 360 already has one.

Squall18

Well...not everyone has one that wants one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpuJmbevqNE

That video is messed up!

[QUOTE="teh_cell"]

So when Sony say the PS3 is the most powerful console I assume you take that at face value too?

kolkov01

Where are the sales figures that prove this fact?

[QUOTE="teh_cell"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] do you have some data/links/proof to give us some insight into these declining sales you speak of? if i'm not mistaken, it beat the PS3 in NPD sales for november. granted, that's only north america, but its obviously doing well in some regions.clone01

So you want evidence but not from a source that proves you wrong.

And if the North America made up the entirety or even the bulk of console buyers, you may have an argument. Sadly, neither of these things is true.

[QUOTE="kolkov01"][QUOTE="teh_cell"]

So when Sony say the PS3 is the most powerful console I assume you take that at face value too?

teh_cell

Where are the sales figures that prove this fact?

[QUOTE="kolkov01"][QUOTE="teh_cell"]

So when Sony say the PS3 is the most powerful console I assume you take that at face value too?

teh_cell

Where are the sales figures that prove this fact?

anyway here you go:

Xbox 360: 819.5K
PlayStation 3: 710.4K

link

Find me a better month

Micrsoft need to get serious in 2010 and do the following...

Ditch the HDless arcade model and replace with a version with HD for about the same price

Include wireless in all consoles. Selling wireless as an addon (a really expensive one) makes the 360 a really bad value proposition for anyone needing to connect wirelessly.

As things stand the 360 is just too damn expensive when compared to the PS3 slim.

still waiting on those worldwide numbers to back your claim, teh_cell.

Prepare For Natal :PBloodSeeker1337

MS sellingthe console at a loss, i dun see that happening.

Prepare For Natal :PBloodSeeker1337

[QUOTE="BloodSeeker1337"]Prepare For Natal :PTjeremiah1988

Go Wii ahead of both.

Micrsoft need to get serious in 2010 and do the following...

Ditch the HDless arcade model and replace with a version with HD for about the same price

Include wireless in all consoles. Selling wireless as an addon (a really expensive one) makes the 360 a really bad value proposition for anyone needing to connect wirelessly.

As things stand the 360 is just too damn expensive when compared to the PS3 slim.

teh_cell

lol, its a good thing you arent in charge of MS's strategy. MS knows the market, they have been in it for YEARS. You are a poster on a forum, and are looking at it from the OUTSIDE. MS has proven that their strategy with the 360> fanboy's opinion. They lead the PS3 in profit, games, games sold, attach rate, hardware sales, profit generated (from the accessories you bash) and just about every other category except GAMES IN 2009. Other than that, i would say their strategy is better, whether fanboys agree with it or not. You cant really argue what is NEEDED by the individual gamer, you dont have the right to speak for others.

still waiting on those worldwide numbers to back your claim, teh_cell.

clone01

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=®1=------&cons2=PS3®2=All&cons3=X360®3=All&start=40090&end=40167

[QUOTE="clone01"]

still waiting on those worldwide numbers to back your claim, teh_cell.

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=®1=------&cons2=PS3®2=All&cons3=X360®3=All&start=40090&end=40167

[QUOTE="teh_cell"]

[QUOTE="clone01"]

still waiting on those worldwide numbers to back your claim, teh_cell.

mayceV

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=®1=------&cons2=PS3®2=All&cons3=X360®3=All&start=40090&end=40167

Why? Because fanboys won't accept Vgchartz numbers

[QUOTE="mayceV"][QUOTE="teh_cell"]

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=®1=------&cons2=PS3®2=All&cons3=X360®3=All&start=40090&end=40167

Why? Because fanboys won't accept Vgchartz numbers

Dropping the arcade is a bad move imo. They did some report that said that 50% of people with an xbox don't go online AT ALL. If you're not going online then you really have no need for a HDD. The built in memory is more than enough to store game saves... which is all you'd have if you don't go online.

As far as a further price drop, I don't think they need one in the US since the 360 still outsells the PS3 for some odd reason. Outside of the US though, yeah, they need one. No 360 should ever cost what the cheapest PS3 cost imo. The game library are super similar and the PS3 gives you a Blu-ray player for "free". Americans can look past all of that but the rest of the world seems more logical (imo of course).

If they don't want to drop the price they should throw in better games. Lego Batman and a mediocre racer are a poor replacement for a Blu-Ray player. Even if they're too cheap to actually press discs, they could ship the system with games pre-installed that will run how Games on Demand works (no disc needed). The Halo 3 and Fable 2 bundle seemed like a solid deal. I don't know how much those games make on a monthly basis but I think they could increase hardware sales if they put those two titles (or two hq titles) in every $299 SKU.

Bundles are always a critical thing for me buying a system. If they could throw in two of the best games for the system in the box I think alot of people would jump on it.

[QUOTE="teh_cell"]

[QUOTE="monson21502"] wasn`t last month its best selling month ever?????kolkov01

No. Where did you get that ridiculous idea?

from microsoft

[QUOTE="teh_cell"]

[QUOTE="mayceV"] ^^^ FAIL mayceV

Why? Because fanboys won't accept Vgchartz numbers

The BBC, Forbes, Fortune, The New York Post, Yahoo and The New York Times disagree

[QUOTE="mayceV"][QUOTE="teh_cell"]

Why? Because fanboys won't accept Vgchartz numbers

teh_cell

The BBC, Forbes, Fortune, The New York Post, Yahoo and The New York Times disagree

[QUOTE="teh_cell"]

[QUOTE="mayceV"] no because VGchartz has no crediblitynavyguy21

The BBC, Forbes, Fortune, The New York Post, Yahoo and The New York Times disagree

Those news outlets us Vgchartz for reporting sales data, that is a fact, not something that is up for debate.

[QUOTE="clone01"]

still waiting on those worldwide numbers to back your claim, teh_cell.

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=®1=------&cons2=PS3®2=All&cons3=X360®3=All&start=40090&end=40167

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="teh_cell"]

The BBC, Forbes, Fortune, The New York Post, Yahoo and The New York Times disagree

teh_cell

Those news outlets us Vgchartz for reporting sales data, that is a fact, not something that is up for debate.

[QUOTE="clone01"]

still waiting on those worldwide numbers to back your claim, teh_cell.

teh_cell

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=®1=------&cons2=PS3®2=All&cons3=X360®3=All&start=40090&end=40167

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="teh_cell"]

The BBC, Forbes, Fortune, The New York Post, Yahoo and The New York Times disagree

teh_cell

Those news outlets us Vgchartz for reporting sales data, that is a fact, not something that is up for debate.

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="teh_cell"] lol, wiki is even worse :lol:teh_cell

Those news outlets us Vgchartz for reporting sales data, that is a fact, not something that is up for debate.

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Wait what? Isn't the PS3 still last place? If so why would a poster named teh_cell make a thread saying the 360 needs a price drop and not the PS3??? Hey wait a second your not one of those crazy Sony employees that go on forums trying to bash the 360?teh_cell

The PS3 came out over 12 months after the 360, Microsoft grabbed first mover advantage this gen, and made a lot of sales to people just itching to buy whatever system came out first. The problem for Microsoft is that their sales lead is eroding at an increasing rate.

i don't believe you because you haven't provided a link.

if you have provided proof in the next 2 pages other than vgchartz (which i'm pretty sure isn't even showing that), i'll change this but i have my doubts.

[QUOTE="teh_cell"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"] lol, wiki is even worse :lol:clone01

Those news outlets us Vgchartz for reporting sales data, that is a fact, not something that is up for debate.