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#1  Edited By seba20007
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PS4 pro has 4k UI and the new ps5 UI is 4K & HDR

https://twitter.com/dark1x/status/1316742116530421760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1316742116530421760%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3%2Ccontainerclick_0&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2F2%2Ftwitter.min.html1316742116530421760

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#2 deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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" Microsoft set aside 1 GB of ram so the dashboard could be 4k but the game devs said they could use that 1 GB for games so Microsoft made the decision to do 1080p dash and let the game devs have the extra GB to use."

Something is up here... 1GB of RAM being used to make the UI 4K vs 1080p? Why is the PS4 Pro UI native 4K then?

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#3 BenjaminBanklin
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Somewhere in the development process... corners were cut.

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#4  Edited By Pedro
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@goldenelementxl said:

" Microsoft set aside 1 GB of ram so the dashboard could be 4k but the game devs said they could use that 1 GB for games so Microsoft made the decision to do 1080p dash and let the game devs have the extra GB to use."

Something is up here... 1GB of RAM being used to make the UI 4K vs 1080p? Why is the PS4 Pro UI native 4K then?

Xbox interface is very image heavy in comparison to the the PS4. That is my guess. But, with the SSD this shouldn't be an issue.

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#5 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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Do people really care about the resolution of a dashboard, i mean c'mon.

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#7 Eoten
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@i_p_daily said:

Do people really care about the resolution of a dashboard, i mean c'mon.

C'mon man, it's all they have left. Don't take that from them.

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@eoten said:
@i_p_daily said:

Do people really care about the resolution of a dashboard, i mean c'mon.

C'mon man, it's all they have left. Don't take that from them.

But its the dumbest thing ever, i mean the dashboard is only there to give you access to your games.

Whenever MS updates its dashboard (which is a lot) i try and get rid of everything i don't need, so it makes it easier to get to my games/store etc.

I have never in my entire gaming life (over 30yrs) seen nor heard anyone talking about the resolution of a home/menu/dashboard screen.

Just when you think cows can't go any lower, they find a way, its both funny & sad at the same time.

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#9 rzxv04
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I seriously doubt it'll remain 1080p.

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#10 regnaston
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wait are you saying the screen I will spend the least amount of time on is not 4K???? How will I ever survive?

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User interface can be upgraded with software, but cutting corners on your console hardware design like Sony did with the PS5 is forever.

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#12 navyguy21
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I honestly never noticed the One X was 1080p.......or that the Pro was 4K.

They looked the same to me.

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#13 JoshRMeyer
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Not a big deal but it does make you wonder why.

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#14 Archangel3371
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Damn you Microsoft! Damn you straight to hell!

Sorry, got a little overly dramatic for a second. I’ll survive. 😅

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#15 Phlop_Spencer
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After all these years, MS still hasn’t been able to figure out a proper UI for the bone. It really is pathetic

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#16  Edited By hardwenzen
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Can't even handle the dashboard at 4k/1fps and people expected 4k/60fps games 😊😊😊

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#17 Eoten
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@i_p_daily said:
@eoten said:
@i_p_daily said:

Do people really care about the resolution of a dashboard, i mean c'mon.

C'mon man, it's all they have left. Don't take that from them.

But its the dumbest thing ever, i mean the dashboard is only there to give you access to your games.

Whenever MS updates its dashboard (which is a lot) i try and get rid of everything i don't need, so it makes it easier to get to my games/store etc.

I have never in my entire gaming life (over 30yrs) seen nor heard anyone talking about the resolution of a home/menu/dashboard screen.

Just when you think cows can't go any lower, they find a way, its both funny & sad at the same time.

Don't forget 99% of gamers won't even see a difference either way.

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#18 HalcyonScarlet
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@goldenelementxl: If it is so ram can go back to the games, I'm for it. I mean just upscale, it's a ui. :-S

People shouldn't get caught up on Xbox system software at this point though. MS will be continually updating and evolving things for a long long time to come.

And if it's anything like the Xbox One, launch system software is going to be pretty basic across the board on release.

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#19 deactivated-628e6669daebe
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It's not a final UI but if that means more memory for games that's great. Another great move from MS.

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#20 PSP107
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@phlop_spencer: "MS still hasn’t been able to figure out a proper UI for the bone."

lol@ "the bone"

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@PSP107 said:

@phlop_spencer: "MS still hasn’t been able to figure out a proper UI for the bone."

lol@ "the bone"

You know why cows call it the bone? Its what they get every time they think about it :)

Cows don't need Viagra, they just need to think of "the bone" LOL.

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#22 sealionact
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Had an x1x since launch and "assumed" the UI was in 4k.....shows how unimportant having a 4k UI is, especially when the console reserves ram for the UI that could be freed for games.

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#23 tdkmillsy
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Why do we need a 4k dashboard anyway?

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#24 freedomfreak
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Sucks. Pretty sure the Xbox360 UI was 720P throughout the whole gen. Playstation UI is always nicer to look at.

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#25 Bluestars
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first world problems are real...1080p you say?....damn you cruel world!

oh wait,who gives a shit

hah

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#26  Edited By deactivated-60bf765068a74
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How hard is it to make a UI in 4k microsoft? Can you tell us why its so hard when sony has done it?

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#27  Edited By xhawk27
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The ps4 pro had a 4K u.i. Even though not one game was native 4K. 😂🤣

No wonder the u.i ran like sh@t.

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#28  Edited By tormentos
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@goldenelementxl:

If i had to guess is the fact that they use the one on xbox one modify in both cases, so instead of doing a 4k one for xbox one x,they used the xbox one version and call it a day, and since the series X one is not totally new by MS own word that is what happen, but i tell you this if the UI is 1080p because they wanted to give developers that ram for games, that surely would mean the UI will remain 1080p until the machine dies, you cant take ram from games once they had it, it happen with the PS3 already.

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#29 SecretPolice
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Unholy cowzerz FatMan. I suppose when you got nothing else.

This is just an embarrassingly weak nitpick even for the lamest MS/Xbox anti-fans. lol :P

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#30 The6millionLies
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I rather have that 1GB for games than a stupid UI that I won't use much... Some of you guys are amazing with the things you try to claim ownage and is sad.

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#31 2mrw
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Are we discussing UI resolution here?

WTF!!

Who cares?!

As long as it looks pleasing and fluid

Ps5 UI looks great but all those new gimmick features will be dead in a year!

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#33  Edited By Ant_17
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Doesn't matter. The bone ui ugly in any resolution.

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#34 robert_sparkes
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As long as its a smooth experience it really isn't that important its great what Sony have done with the 4k UI but really isn't all that important in the grand scheme of things.

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#35 tormentos
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@i_p_daily:

I would not be so sure about that bro, here we had argument about basically every thing UI related.

So you trying to make cows bad about this is a joke.

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#36 tormentos
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@xhawk27:

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-every-native-4k-ps4-pro-game-tested

There is no need to lie the PS4 Pro did had several games that were 4k native.

Like some one else stated here lemmings love to push false narrative to have it their way, same shit with 9.2TF crap.😂

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#37  Edited By tormentos
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@tdkmillsy:

Why do you need a 4k TV? Why do you need a 4k console?

Sinply pathetic the level of damage control you people are willing to do to defend the xbox, many of its games will not even be native 4k after all the SHIT BY MS AND ITS FANS ABOUT HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL AND FASTEST CONSOLE EVER.

And the shitty console can't even run its UI in 4k when even the Pro can?

Why do we need a 4k UI? Because people will pay for a damn 4k machine and payed for a damn 4k TV so why the fu** should their UI be 1080p?

Oh wait i just remember you lemmings like options right? Thats the reason for defending AA batteries on the controller having the option, how come the option here is out of the question?

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@tormentos said:

@tdkmillsy:

Why do you need a 4k TV? Why do you need a 4k console?

Sinply pathetic the level of damage control you people are willing to do to defend the xbox, many of its games will not even be native 4k after all the SHIT BY MS AND ITS FANS ABOUT HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL AND FASTEST CONSOLE EVER.

And the shitty console can't even run its UI in 4k when even the Pro can?

Why do we need a 4k UI? Because people will pay for a damn 4k machine and payed for a damn 4k TV so why the fu** should their UI be 1080p?

Oh wait i just remember you lemmings like options right? Thats the reason for defending AA batteries on the controller having the option, how come the option here is out of the question?

ROFL

if (according to you ) not many of its games will be native 4k, the PS5 has got no chance.

If you save SSD space using 1080p assets then they should do that on all consoles, thats what I was referring too. Might not save much but space is a premium.

No I suggest you take a breath before you explode.

Its not like we talking about anything serious.

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#39 tormentos
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@tdkmillsy:

Yes nice deflection the PS5 isnt been advertised as the most powerful and FASTEST console ever, but i would be pist if sony doesnt allow the machine to have a 4k UI.

Irrelevant of the machines having games that may not be 4k this machines were announce as 8k capable so why in hell would i want a 1080p UI.

In fact the PS3 supported 1080p UI in 2006 is 2020 man WTF.

No dude is just lol worthy after all the crap you people have say about the PS5..😂😂😂

The series X is so powerful it cant run its UI in 4k.😂😂😂

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@regnaston said:

wait are you saying the screen I will spend the least amount of time on is not 4K???? How will I ever survive?

omg I have a 4k series x for 500 we don't need 4k ui.

you see the ui every single time you turn on the console and go through it every day.

so every day = the length of a really long game. think about for the next 7 years your looking at this ui.

even if 10 min a day total x 365 days x 7 years. 2450 min = 40 hours that is if you only spend 10 min in the ui a day.

4k is much sharper txt.

if this was ps5 news you be hopping on it going hahahaha 1080p ui in 2020.

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#41  Edited By Gifford38
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@eoten said:
@i_p_daily said:
@eoten said:
@i_p_daily said:

Do people really care about the resolution of a dashboard, i mean c'mon.

C'mon man, it's all they have left. Don't take that from them.

But its the dumbest thing ever, i mean the dashboard is only there to give you access to your games.

Whenever MS updates its dashboard (which is a lot) i try and get rid of everything i don't need, so it makes it easier to get to my games/store etc.

I have never in my entire gaming life (over 30yrs) seen nor heard anyone talking about the resolution of a home/menu/dashboard screen.

Just when you think cows can't go any lower, they find a way, its both funny & sad at the same time.

Don't forget 99% of gamers won't even see a difference either way.

just like the pro 1440p over 4k xbox one x gamers will hardly see a difference but yet you xbox fans hop on 1440p and say checker board sucks it looks like crap.

yet 1080p and 4k will not see a differance?

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#42 Gifford38
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@tdkmillsy said:
@tormentos said:

@tdkmillsy:

Why do you need a 4k TV? Why do you need a 4k console?

Sinply pathetic the level of damage control you people are willing to do to defend the xbox, many of its games will not even be native 4k after all the SHIT BY MS AND ITS FANS ABOUT HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL AND FASTEST CONSOLE EVER.

And the shitty console can't even run its UI in 4k when even the Pro can?

Why do we need a 4k UI? Because people will pay for a damn 4k machine and payed for a damn 4k TV so why the fu** should their UI be 1080p?

Oh wait i just remember you lemmings like options right? Thats the reason for defending AA batteries on the controller having the option, how come the option here is out of the question?

ROFL

if (according to you ) not many of its games will be native 4k, the PS5 has got no chance.

If you save SSD space using 1080p assets then they should do that on all consoles, thats what I was referring too. Might not save much but space is a premium.

No I suggest you take a breath before you explode.

Its not like we talking about anything serious.

1 gig of space. what is that going to do? save 1 gig of space going to 1080p. why do developers need 1 gig?

I can see if they saved maybe 50 gigs or 30. but 1 gig? why?

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@gifford38: RAM

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#44  Edited By regnaston
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@gifford38 said:
@regnaston said:

wait are you saying the screen I will spend the least amount of time on is not 4K???? How will I ever survive?

omg I have a 4k series x for 500 we don't need 4k ui.

you see the ui every single time you turn on the console and go through it every day.

so every day = the length of a really long game. think about for the next 7 years your looking at this ui.

even if 10 min a day total x 365 days x 7 years. 2450 min = 40 hours that is if you only spend 10 min in the ui a day.

4k is much sharper txt.

if this was ps5 news you be hopping on it going hahahaha 1080p ui in 2020.

no I wouldn't be hopping on it if it was PS5 news it is a non issue to me

I guess I might care if my UI text was not "sharp" if I was gaming on a smaller TV and sitting the same distance away, but 99.9% of the time the image is what I look for not the text underneath it

Oh and the only way I spend 10 minutes a day on my UI is if I leave it on and walk away

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#45 SecretPolice
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Well, Phony figured PS Jive can't do real 4K games, let's give'em a 4K UI and they'll be happy and brag about it and sum biatch, they were right.

Poo cows...

lol :P

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#46 sealionact
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@seba20007: Ps5 UI features requires paid psplus subscription for tips and hints.

Xsx is free and takes less memory from games.

Debate over imo.

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#47 Nonstop-Madness
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HDR not being present is a much bigger deal than it being 1080p.

The UI will look washed out compared to HDR games.

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It's kinda crazy that they basically added HDR to every game, tout new games running at 4K HDR yet they can't bother adding a 4K and/or HDR to the UI.

Also, I think the whole "we're giving an extra 1GB to devs for games" is horse considering MS said the OS runs on the slower 336GB/s memory and not the "graphics" memory. That's pretty much an admission that the 10GB of "fast" memory isn't going to be enough and that games will need to tap into the "slow" memory. And that's the XSX. The XSS "slow" memory is 56 GB/s. lol

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#48 regnaston
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@Nonstop-Madness said:

HDR not being present is a much bigger deal than it being 1080p.

The UI will look washed out compared to HDR games.

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It's kinda crazy that they basically added HDR to every game, tout new games running at 4K HDR yet they can't bother adding a 4K and/or HDR to the UI.

Also, I think the whole "we're giving an extra 1GB to devs for games" is horse considering MS said the OS runs on the slower 336GB/s memory and not the "graphics" memory. That's pretty much an admission that the 10GB of "fast" memory isn't going to be enough and that games will need to tap into the "slow" memory. And that's the XSX. The XSS "slow" memory is 56 GB/s. lol

some of the things that could be put in "slow" memory might not need high bandwidth transfer and that frees up the main memory for other things that do require it. For example a HUD that does not change frequently or drastically could be loaded using the slower memory and that would free up the fast memory to load environments which change

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#49  Edited By regnaston
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@gifford38 said:
@tdkmillsy said:
@tormentos said:

@tdkmillsy:

Why do you need a 4k TV? Why do you need a 4k console?

Sinply pathetic the level of damage control you people are willing to do to defend the xbox, many of its games will not even be native 4k after all the SHIT BY MS AND ITS FANS ABOUT HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL AND FASTEST CONSOLE EVER.

And the shitty console can't even run its UI in 4k when even the Pro can?

Why do we need a 4k UI? Because people will pay for a damn 4k machine and payed for a damn 4k TV so why the fu** should their UI be 1080p?

Oh wait i just remember you lemmings like options right? Thats the reason for defending AA batteries on the controller having the option, how come the option here is out of the question?

ROFL

if (according to you ) not many of its games will be native 4k, the PS5 has got no chance.

If you save SSD space using 1080p assets then they should do that on all consoles, thats what I was referring too. Might not save much but space is a premium.

No I suggest you take a breath before you explode.

Its not like we talking about anything serious.

1 gig of space. what is that going to do? save 1 gig of space going to 1080p. why do developers need 1 gig?

I can see if they saved maybe 50 gigs or 30. but 1 gig? why?

1 Gig of memory i.e. RAM not SDD space

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@regnaston said:
@gifford38 said:
@tdkmillsy said:
@tormentos said:

@tdkmillsy:

Why do you need a 4k TV? Why do you need a 4k console?

Sinply pathetic the level of damage control you people are willing to do to defend the xbox, many of its games will not even be native 4k after all the SHIT BY MS AND ITS FANS ABOUT HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL AND FASTEST CONSOLE EVER.

And the shitty console can't even run its UI in 4k when even the Pro can?

Why do we need a 4k UI? Because people will pay for a damn 4k machine and payed for a damn 4k TV so why the fu** should their UI be 1080p?

Oh wait i just remember you lemmings like options right? Thats the reason for defending AA batteries on the controller having the option, how come the option here is out of the question?

ROFL

if (according to you ) not many of its games will be native 4k, the PS5 has got no chance.

If you save SSD space using 1080p assets then they should do that on all consoles, thats what I was referring too. Might not save much but space is a premium.

No I suggest you take a breath before you explode.

Its not like we talking about anything serious.

1 gig of space. what is that going to do? save 1 gig of space going to 1080p. why do developers need 1 gig?

I can see if they saved maybe 50 gigs or 30. but 1 gig? why?

1 Gig of memory i.e. RAM not SDD space

ow yeah ok my bad. but still is that a lot to save for memory of ram? I think xbox will find a way to have it at 4k without taking up the 1 gig of ram in the future. just sucks because the ui in 4k looks crisp.