Xbox360 devs need to stop making open map environment games.

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#51 Vyse_The_Daring
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[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"][QUOTE="sonicmj1"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

[QUOTE="BillGreen68"]GeOW has open environments... And then there's Oblivion. sonicmj1

jesus christ, here we go again. Can you take action into the air in Geow and Oblivion and then watch everything in fine detail from above?

You can't take action into the air in Crackdown, but you can take it to the top of a really tall building, and watch everything in fine detail from above. Does that count?

I mean, it isn't like the 360 has a lot of flying games here. You're making an unfair comparison.

But don't you see? Had Gears and Crackdown been on the PS3, the almighty Cell would have allowed dragons to be somehow mashed into that gameplay, clearly making them way better games.

Different design choices my foot, I want some friggin' dragons!

Oh. I forgot that the 360 made it impossible for games to have dragons.

It's so hard to keep track of these things...

That's why we have Germanshepard, to remind us that dragons are only possible with "teh cell." :lol:

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#52 _en1gma_
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[QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="wklzip"]

[QUOTE="MTBare"]Xbox360 devs need to stop making games for the 360, and start making them for the PS3, is what germansheperd really meant.Dencore

:o maybe :lol:

It's called reading between the lines.

but the ps3 outshines the highest ended PC. ;)

except for the fact that it doesnt... 

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#53 MTBare
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[QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="wklzip"]

[QUOTE="MTBare"]Xbox360 devs need to stop making games for the 360, and start making them for the PS3, is what germansheperd really meant.Dencore

:o maybe :lol:

It's called reading between the lines.

but the ps3 outshines the highest ended PC. ;)

That's just common sense. I mean, the ps3 IS a supercomputer, and what's a PC?! Just a regular computer. And I believe we all know super > regular.

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#54 Dencore
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[QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="wklzip"]

[QUOTE="MTBare"]Xbox360 devs need to stop making games for the 360, and start making them for the PS3, is what germansheperd really meant.MTBare

:o maybe :lol:

It's called reading between the lines.

but the ps3 outshines the highest ended PC. ;)

That's just common sense. I mean, the ps3 IS a supercomputer, and what's a PC?! Just a regular computer.

Yeah I know.

PC doesn't have any good games. 

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[QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="wklzip"]

[QUOTE="MTBare"]Xbox360 devs need to stop making games for the 360, and start making them for the PS3, is what germansheperd really meant.Dencore

:o maybe :lol:

It's called reading between the lines.

but the ps3 outshines the highest ended PC. ;)

That's just common sense. I mean, the ps3 IS a supercomputer, and what's a PC?! Just a regular computer.

Yeah I know.

PC doesn't have any good games. 

ha....ha......ha......:o :shock: :? :| ...... nevermind...I think you know what you said was stupid...and you were probably being sarcastic.

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See sig.
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#57 Ontain
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they should just stick with geow or doom like design where everything is closed in or boxed in so this way the graphics do look amazing.

Games like Lair on ps3 with 32km open field, thousands of enemies on screen seems no problem for ps3. If anyone wonders what sets these apart is the Cell cpu that makes it possible for ps3 to have better open map games.

just my 2 cents.

GermanShepard06

1. open maps have nothing to do with the cell.

2. a lot of lair looked like open nothingness. like last stretches of water. the thousands of enemies looked like a total of 4 models.  

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#58 cabjnico
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Xbox360 devs need to stop making games for the 360, and start making them for the PS3, is what germansheperd really meant.MTBare

and german shepard needs to stop posting, is what everyone really means 

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#59 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]Why this "Cell" sounds so great, Lair's 12 hours of singleplayer and no multiplayer should be amazing. nnavidson

i bought PS3 just to avoid online games that are not first person shooters like x360 is infested with. I want single player games on my console and i can care less about online for games like Lair.

Lack of multiplayer is understandable when you have a good single-player component, like in System Shock 2 or Bioshock. Lair, on the other hand... >_>

Why are you saying Lair doesn't have good gameplay?  The developer Factor 5 has a great reputation and the game looks fun.

Don't put words on my keyboard. I was questioning the campaign, not the gameplay. >_>
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Xbox360 devs need to stop making games for the 360, and start making them for the PS3, is what germansheperd really meant.MTBare

ROFLMAO!

they should just stick with geow or doom like design where everything is closed in or boxed in so this way the graphics do look amazing.

Games like Lair on ps3 with 32km open field, thousands of enemies on screen seems no problem for ps3. If anyone wonders what sets these apart is the Cell cpu that makes it possible for ps3 to have better open map games.

just my 2 cents.

GermanShepard06

Can I ask you a serious question? Why do you care about what 360 has/got, can/cant do? What about the 360 completes your day or makes your life easier? Does bashing it help you to complete tasks throughout your day? Do you have a life? A girlfriend? A family? Why do you care so much that your body musters emotion to every reply that objects your feelings towards 360? That goes to every fanboy who does what you do.

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#61 Dencore
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See sig.MTBare

 I mean it's been almost 2 years that the 360 has brought HD to gaming, PC's still have yet to do that.

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#62 wklzip
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[QUOTE="MTBare"]See sig.Dencore

I mean it's been almost 2 years that the 360 has brought HD to gaming, PC's still have yet to do that.

PC will never be able to do HD. 

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#63 Truth-slayer
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[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]You consider 32K to be big? :|.Vandalvideo

32x32 kilometers is huge.

There are PC games that dwarf that. -_-

both on land and air and with tens of thousands of soldiers, i hoping that ur not going to post some RTS game for pc cuz ill just delete my thread from being infected.

No, I was about to drag out a five page list of MMO games. I mean there were games released in 2005 with 30X30 K.

Dont those generally have load times though? Yeah the entire world is about that size, but traveling through it is not continuous, as opposed by Lair, where a single map is that size.
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#64 Dencore
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]You consider 32K to be big? :|.Truth-slayer

32x32 kilometers is huge.

There are PC games that dwarf that. -_-

both on land and air and with tens of thousands of soldiers, i hoping that ur not going to post some RTS game for pc cuz ill just delete my thread from being infected.

No, I was about to drag out a five page list of MMO games. I mean there were games released in 2005 with 30X30 K.

Dont those generally have load times though? Yeah the entire world is about that size, but traveling through it is not continuous, as opposed by Lair, where a single map is that size.

They don't load the world all at once, they stream it. 

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#65 black_awpN1
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Ill keep taht in mind. (goes to play oblivion.)
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#66 MonacoX
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[QUOTE="Dencore"]

[QUOTE="MTBare"]See sig.wklzip

I mean it's been almost 2 years that the 360 has brought HD to gaming, PC's still have yet to do that.

PC will never be able to do HD. 


and everybody knows that the xbox 360 only does the "normal" HD.  Just wait till the all powerful, almighty CELL does "SUPER HD"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PC/xbox 360=OWNED
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#67 DaysAirlines
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Hold up, I'm sending this thread to Xbox 360 devs. They'll really listen to you. Really.
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[QUOTE="MTBare"]See sig.Dencore

 I mean it's been almost 2 years that the 360 has brought HD to gaming, PC's still have yet to do that.

*throws you a MASSIVE flame sheild*

[QUOTE="Dencore"]

[QUOTE="MTBare"]See sig.wklzip

I mean it's been almost 2 years that the 360 has brought HD to gaming, PC's still have yet to do that.

PC will never be able to do HD. 

*throws you a massive flame sheild*

:)

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#69 black_awpN1
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[QUOTE="wklzip"][QUOTE="Dencore"]

[QUOTE="MTBare"]See sig.MonacoX

I mean it's been almost 2 years that the 360 has brought HD to gaming, PC's still have yet to do that.

PC will never be able to do HD.


and everybody knows that the xbox 360 only does the "normal" HD. Just wait till the all powerful, almighty CELL does "SUPER HD"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PC/xbox 360=OWNED

Teh almighty cell has only produced mediocre ports up to this point. So the all mighty cell and the almighty PS3 are a Almighty brick at this point. All Hail the almighty doorstop, er, PS3!  

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[QUOTE="MonacoX"][QUOTE="wklzip"][QUOTE="Dencore"]

[QUOTE="MTBare"]See sig.black_awpN1

I mean it's been almost 2 years that the 360 has brought HD to gaming, PC's still have yet to do that.

PC will never be able to do HD.


and everybody knows that the xbox 360 only does the "normal" HD. Just wait till the all powerful, almighty CELL does "SUPER HD"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PC/xbox 360=OWNED

Teh almighty cell has only produced mediocre ports up to this point. So the all mighty cell and the almighty PS3 are a Almighty brick at this point. All Hail the almighty doorstop, er, PS3!  


You do realize that I was being sarcastic, right?
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[QUOTE="black_awpN1"][QUOTE="MonacoX"][QUOTE="wklzip"][QUOTE="Dencore"]

[QUOTE="MTBare"]See sig.MonacoX

I mean it's been almost 2 years that the 360 has brought HD to gaming, PC's still have yet to do that.

PC will never be able to do HD.


and everybody knows that the xbox 360 only does the "normal" HD. Just wait till the all powerful, almighty CELL does "SUPER HD"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PC/xbox 360=OWNED

Teh almighty cell has only produced mediocre ports up to this point. So the all mighty cell and the almighty PS3 are a Almighty brick at this point. All Hail the almighty doorstop, er, PS3!


You do realize that I was being sarcastic, right?

OMG im sorry. I never had a very good sarcasim radar.lol my bad. 8)

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#72 Dencore
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[QUOTE="Dencore"]

[QUOTE="MTBare"]See sig.Pro_wrestler

I mean it's been almost 2 years that the 360 has brought HD to gaming, PC's still have yet to do that.

*throws you a MASSIVE flame sheild*

[QUOTE="Dencore"]

[QUOTE="MTBare"]See sig.wklzip

I mean it's been almost 2 years that the 360 has brought HD to gaming, PC's still have yet to do that.

PC will never be able to do HD.

*throws you a massive flame sheild*

:)

It's true. Same thing with online the Xbox was the first console to do online ever. And PC's still have yet to offer online play.  

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#73 KillaHalo2o9
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Mass Effect :8)
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#74 serpx
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Screw that.  Open environments rock.  Especially in epic shooters.  (Halo 3).
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#75 istreakforfood
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It's true. Same thing with online the Xbox was the first console to do online ever. And PC's still have yet to offer online play.

Dencore

 

 

:lol::lol::lol: 

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#76 CAlNlAC
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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="Dencore"]

[QUOTE="MTBare"]See sig.Dencore

I mean it's been almost 2 years that the 360 has brought HD to gaming, PC's still have yet to do that.

*throws you a MASSIVE flame sheild*

[QUOTE="Dencore"]

[QUOTE="MTBare"]See sig.wklzip

I mean it's been almost 2 years that the 360 has brought HD to gaming, PC's still have yet to do that.

PC will never be able to do HD.

*throws you a massive flame sheild*

:)

It's true. Same thing with online the Xbox was the first console to do online ever. And PC's still have yet to offer online play.  

Sig worthy?
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Why this "Cell" sounds so great, Lair's 12 hours of singleplayer and no multiplayer should be amazing. Vyse_The_Daring

IF the Devs say twelve hours you can write it of as 8-9, games are always shorter thant he developer says.

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#78 Dencore
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Sig worthy?CAlNlAC

What do you mean sig worthy? PC's could never do online that's why CounterStrike on the Xbox was superior to it's PC version. Also consoles have the most quanity and quality of FPS's a genre the PC's have never been known for. 

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#79 darklord888
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Lair doesn't look all that good and No Online. Please.

 

PS3_3DO


Wait...what? No online? Really? Why are people even hyping this game? :|
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#80 Dencore
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Lair doesn't look all that good and No Online. Please.

 

darklord888

 



Wait...what? No online? Really? Why are people even hyping this game? :|

Seriously why do people make online game such a big deal. Really?

It's just a cheap way to you know what nvm forget it it's not worth arguing. 

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[QUOTE="CAlNlAC"] Sig worthy?Dencore

What do you mean sig worthy? PC's could never do online that's why CounterStrike on the Xbox was superior to it's PC version. Also consoles have the most quanity and quality of FPS's a genre the PC's have never been known for. 

That was almost funny, keep trying.
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#82 Dencore
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[QUOTE="Dencore"]

[QUOTE="CAlNlAC"] Sig worthy?CAlNlAC

What do you mean sig worthy? PC's could never do online that's why CounterStrike on the Xbox was superior to it's PC version. Also consoles have the most quanity and quality of FPS's a genre the PC's have never been known for.

That was almost funny, keep trying.

Hmmm.....Taco meat is red? 

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#83 darklord888
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[QUOTE="darklord888"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Lair doesn't look all that good and No Online. Please.

 

Dencore

 



Wait...what? No online? Really? Why are people even hyping this game? :|

Seriously why do people make online game such a big deal. Really?

It's just a cheap way to you know what nvm forget it it's not worth arguing. 



It adds possibly hundreds of hours to the game maybe?
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#84 3picuri3
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man - do you ever make threads that make sense? i really think you should make yourself more familiar with all the hardware involved in your 'argument'.
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#85 Dencore
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[QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="darklord888"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Lair doesn't look all that good and No Online. Please.

 

darklord888

 



Wait...what? No online? Really? Why are people even hyping this game? :|

Seriously why do people make online game such a big deal. Really?

It's just a cheap way to you know what nvm forget it it's not worth arguing.



It adds possibly hundreds of hours to the game maybe?

I could say the same thing of how devs could add the ablitly to master games instead of having the single player sit at the back burner like it has for years simplifly gaming and just you know what forget it I'm not even going to bother to argue anymore 

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#86 nowhatisthat
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What is the draw distance of oblivion?
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 where'd Germanshepard go?
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they should just stick with geow or doom like design where everything is closed in or boxed in so this way the graphics do look amazing.

Games like Lair on ps3 with 32km open field, thousands of enemies on screen seems no problem for ps3. If anyone wonders what sets these apart is the Cell cpu that makes it possible for ps3 to have better open map games.

just my 2 cents.

GermanShepard06

First it was Resistance...

then Motorstorm...

now Lair...

will this finally be the one?...

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 where'd Germanshepard go?xbox3604lyf

the feeding bell must have rang.

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#90 greg_splicer
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they should just stick with geow or doom like design where everything is closed in or boxed in so this way the graphics do look amazing.

Games like Lair on ps3 with 32km open field, thousands of enemies on screen seems no problem for ps3. If anyone wonders what sets these apart is the Cell cpu that makes it possible for ps3 to have better open map games.

just my 2 cents.

GermanShepard06

??? What do you mean excactly ? Oblivion runs fine on 360, i admit before the pathces the loading were bad, now the game is totally smooth

Kameo also has some huge places with as much action as Lairs and FAR better textures to boot

So, just take you 2 cents back, Lair would look MUCH better in textures-shaders if it was on 360

Here is a pic i took from a post above, that says those are thelatest Lair pics, are you sure those look .. better ?

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[QUOTE="Dencore"]

[QUOTE="CAlNlAC"] Sig worthy?CAlNlAC

What do you mean sig worthy? PC's could never do online that's why CounterStrike on the Xbox was superior to it's PC version. Also consoles have the most quanity and quality of FPS's a genre the PC's have never been known for.

That was almost funny, keep trying.

dude...the guys are making fun of powercharged quotes and being sarcastic for a laugh...

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[QUOTE="darklord888"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Lair doesn't look all that good and No Online. Please.

 

Dencore

 



Wait...what? No online? Really? Why are people even hyping this game? :|

Seriously why do people make online game such a big deal. Really?

It's just a cheap way to you know what nvm forget it it's not worth arguing. 

online = replay value.Â