Fallout 4 has a hella small map.
Sad that this game without a doubt will be overlooked.
Excited to buy a Wii U in a few weeks.
Yea by majority of Wii U owners too. -_- LE preordered :P
@RossRichard: True, but did Grand Ages developer make on of the best JRPGs of all time with its previous game?
OK. Elder Scrolls Daggerfall was roughly the size of Great Britain. Many times larger than the next Elder Scrolls game, Morrowind. Yet that doesn't stop the Elder Scrolls fanboys from screeching that Morrowind was the best game in the series. How about that?
Same point. Size of the world does not equal great game.
I dont think a single person will claim a big world makes a good game. But good developers do make good games. Xenoblade is made by a good developer.
So is there anything to do in this big open world or is it mainly just filler?
If it's anything like Xenoblade, it will have things to do.
Maybe I'm just skeptical. Most open worlds have stuff to do, but it's mostly repetitive. Like Just Cause 2 for instance I think has a similarly sized world yet all of the content is simply filler, though there's a lot of it. If I've heard correctly Xenoblade is similar in that respect with there being a lot of quests to do but they're mainly MMO like quests repeated over and over.
@soulitane: Its actually a little different, Xenoblade is a unique one. For instance The Monado blade can predict the future, so a lot of quests can be completed by gathering items in the field without ever actually meeting the quest givers at all. But yeah, it has fetch type quest, like i lost my item can you find it. But you dont have to run here, then run back, then run over here, then back to same place.
Its like a quest as you play type thing, you can complete quest on the fly. You dont even have to do the side quest at all, you can just play game and let it do some automatically and just keep going. Of course you wont be able to do them all, but youll get plenty.
Its probally the most modern JRPG around, it takes the best of MMOs and mixes them with the best of JRPGs to give a very fun experience. The new Xenoblade Chronicles X im not sure exactly how they will be doing it though, but i would guess in a similar fashion.
And from what I've seen, it looks pretty damn empty.
Xenoblade Chronicles was pretty empty also. But what is there is worth it, its usually a good mix of stuff, you have things your level and things a little higher, kinda like how a Dark Souls level is layed out. But a little more mixed. For instance youll have some wolves that will attack on sight in an area, then you have a couple high level passive creatures, plus youll have an elite patrol creature as you navigate the same field. So while your strong, you can still easily have your party wiped out if your not careful.
Also things can be in groups, so while your fighting a strong dude and his three weaker buddies, if your not careful and run into another group or patrol you can get wiped out also. Its pretty cool stuff. Definitely brings a cool mix of MMO/RPGs. And its not hack n slash, you have to actually pay attention in battle no matter how strong you are, if you dont react to strong attacks with your predicting the future moves you can easily get wiped out. You have to pay attention to whats going on during battle. Even mobs your level can destroy you if your just spamming buttons.
@mesome713: that was alright (didn't do a ton of it never finished the game)
But every other side quest was just kill this thing a million times or get fifty of this thing, and it got really really annoying, I stopped doing them pretty early and suffered for it
Am I the only one who's tired of open world games? I miss tightly designed levels to be perfectly honest.
I'm fucking infuriated that Nintendo is marketing Mario Tennis so heavily, while having absolutely NO marketing for this game. Their stupidity is mind-boggling, I thought Reggie said he wanted more RPGs for the WiiU, yet the first big one is being ignored!
If you haven't learned by now, Reggie is a huge tool that isn't a gamer by any means.
On topic, if this is true, Xenoblade X is going to be a freaking delightful playground
This makes me not want to buy it. I could care less about size of the world. Give me something with a densely populated world. Don't care how big it is.
lol at people being hyped about this. Who cares how big the world? That just means you're going to travel longer to collect your thousands of blue orbs.
Did people even play Xenoblade? How the hell can people think these quests were good content?
Most quests were shameless generic grind/fetch quests with lousy backstories. Remember the guy in the first town that gave you like ten quests in a row, all of them kill-X-monster quests with motivations like "I had a dream about spiders, they were scary can you please go kill spiders", "I remember my mom saying bugs are bad, kill some bugs for me".
And the fetch quests were equally worthless. Running around the vast world collecting blue orbs to gather the ingredients to cake #4037, yay how exciting.
The town in The Last Story >>>>> every Xenoblade town combined.
And this is not a good thing. From what I remember, Xenoblade was super heavy on grinding and MMO-ish quests. If not for the main story, it felt like some sort of a Korean MMO
You can't even begin to comprehend how fucking tired I am of these games, with huge-ass open worlds.
And yeah, I know I'm in the minority here.
@charizard1605: fair enough, but I'm not sold until the gameplay sells me, plus the world being as big as it is seems to lack a diversity in design with only changes appearing to come from the day/night cycle, not faulting this though that's a big problem among many open world games, it this case though I'm probably more annoyed that games like this, FFXV, and even Scalebound are all sharing a very uninspired similar look in their worlds
Don't see the big deal. Plenty of maps are gigantic. What matters, is what you do with that massive world.
Definitely.
But I'm still very intrigued by Xenoblade. Really want to try it.
And likely more vacuous than Nathan Drake's head.
When it comes to open world, it's better to have a small, hand-crafted world that is lovingly made with minute detail than a massive world empty of anything to do.
And likely more vacuous than Nathan Drake's head.
When it comes to open world, it's better to have a small, hand-crafted world that is lovingly made with minute detail than a massive world empty of anything to do.
I'd say it depends on the games structure. A big world can offer a more user specific experience if the game is designed the right way. For example, player choice could decide the path through the game, maybe not even visiting the entire game space.
Cool but are there anything else but enemies in the environment? Like dungeons, secrets etc? Is the world as barren as it is in Destiny or there's actual quests n all of that?
I am looking forward to this game, I just hope Nintendo has reasonable expectations for this game on Wii-U. I don't want to hear of no more Xenoblade games because it sold poorly, because well, that's Nintendo's fault for the Wii-U selling poorly. So this game isn't going to do numbers even close to Dragon Age, Fallout or Witcher, as it is restricted to the crappy amount of Wii-U's out there.
This game will be good, I hope Nintendo will still have Monolith Soft make a new Xeno game for the NX despite this games sales. I will be surprised if this game breaks a million.
Have the special edition preordered but I still gotta finish the first one. Also hoping NX, if a home console, gets a remastered/1080p60 port.
Cool but are there anything else but enemies in the environment? Like dungeons, secrets etc? Is the world as barren as it is in Destiny or there's actual quests n all of that?
Yes there are quests and all that in it.
As for secrets and dungeons. I dont know unfortunately. I know the original Xenoblade had plenty of secret areas and hidden goodies all over the world.
Cool but are there anything else but enemies in the environment? Like dungeons, secrets etc? Is the world as barren as it is in Destiny or there's actual quests n all of that?
Yes there are quests and all that in it.
As for secrets and dungeons. I dont know unfortunately. I know the original Xenoblade had plenty of secret areas and hidden goodies all over the world.
I'm sure that it has caves in it.
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