Xperia Play is the best handheld, 3DS is a product of the past

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

Absolutely. There's a lot potential for good.. no.. great games on mobile phones. However, we've yet to see any.

Zophar87

None of which make up for the price of the phone, plus the monthly bill, plus the games themselves.

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[QUOTE="Arach666"] Yeah,that´s cool,all things considered it still looks more interesting than the handhelds.

HFkami

Well when we see games which looks as impressive as RE: Revelations on Xperia i will agree that its a impressive device and more so than say 3D as like i said i can phone my mom to clean up poop from my pants from being frightened by zombies.

But everyone knows that this wont happen. We'll never get games of this quality ever on the Xperia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4mpPchLPzs

:lol: Do you really think that piece of garbage you posted has the same quality as Revelations? 3DS will aslways have it's exclusives, so no Xperia fails against the 3DS.

lol, phone. :lol:

lol, phone. :lol:

93BlackHawk93

Lol, phone:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr0c79JAYBw

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"] None? Not even the games shared on both platforms like Ace Attorney and GTA: Chinatown Wars? There are plenty of great games like Infinity Blade, Chaos Rings and Dead Space on mobile platforms. They're also much, much cheaper than dedicated handheld games, so the expectations need to be realistic. In its price range, the games on the App Store absolutely and completely blow away what's available on DSiWare.

mD-

None of which make up for the price of the phone, plus the monthly bill, plus the games themselves.

t convergence device that is good at doing everything. Some phones are better in certain areas, but it's still pretty much solid in all areas.

You are forced to pay the bill for two years though, right? Unless you wanna go with a termination fee.

[QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"]

lol, phone. :lol:

mD-

Lol, phone:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr0c79JAYBw

looks like a cheap piece of crap, and has the playstation face buttons and no analouge sticks. I don't even know if you people are serious when you think these phones and the crappy throw away games are a good primary gaming option.

they just aren't.

[QUOTE="mD-"][QUOTE="Zophar87"]

None of which make up for the price of the phone, plus the monthly bill, plus the games themselves.

Zophar87

t convergence device that is good at doing everything. Some phones are better in certain areas, but it's still pretty much solid in all areas.

You are forced to pay the bill for two years though, right? Unless you wanna go with a termination fee.

[QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"]

lol, phone. :lol:

mD-

Lol, phone:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr0c79JAYBw

Zelda, Paper Mario, Resident Evil or that crap? mmm... :roll:

[QUOTE="mD-"]

[QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"]

lol, phone. :lol:

theuncharted34

Lol, phone:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr0c79JAYBw

looks like a cheap piece of crap, and has the playstation face buttons and no analouge sticks. I don't even know if you people are serious when you think these phones and the crappy throw away games are a good primary gaming option.

they just aren't.

[QUOTE="mD-"]

[QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"]

lol, phone. :lol:

93BlackHawk93

Lol, phone:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr0c79JAYBw

Zelda, Paper Mario, Resident Evil or that crap? mmm... :roll:

[QUOTE="dzimm"][QUOTE="mD-"] Nope! There are plenty youtube videos showing the thing in action by the way. There are also plenty of reviews out saying phone it's a good phone overall, the gaming pad is solid, and the potential for the gaming is high. But w/e, I expect people to continue to rag on a product they pretty much no nothing about. And it's not like I'm going to get this thing either. I'm just saying that this device easily works well for mobile gaming and at the same time you have the Android OS behind it along with the ability to take good pictures and record HD video. That's pretty nice for an all in one device. Also, it's not like you have to put the phone you get on contract. You can easily bypass the activation screen in android and just use your device as basically a small tablet. You can use the wifi still and just keep another cheap phone in which you don't have to pay a data plan until you decide that you want to.mD-

Just because you're all bitter and jaded doesn't mean the joke still isn't relevant. :D

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="mD-"]

Lol, phone:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr0c79JAYBw

mD-

looks like a cheap piece of crap, and has the playstation face buttons and no analouge sticks. I don't even know if you people are serious when you think these phones and the crappy throw away games are a good primary gaming option.

they just aren't.

no, it's a phone. for gaming it's pretty crappy. like i said, talking about this is so ridiculous I can't even tell if you're serious, so I'm going to assume you're not.

for an added feature besides being a phone, the games are ok. if you're trying to pass it off as a capable primary gaming system, then no. just no. and that's the reason why the games would be getting decent scores, because it's just an added feature and the games are so cheap. once again, these phones are terrible for gaming only.

EDIT: the standards are FAAAAAR behind traditional gaming systems.

...to suggest that the Xperia Play isn't a legitimate handheld gaming device even though it has a solid gaming pad, access to the entire library of SNES, NES, SEGA GENESIS games and most of the N64/PS1 gaming library, access to exclusive android gamesbeing designed around the gaming pad, and hundreds of smaller great games like Plants Vs Zombies is very foolish!mD-

No, what's foolish is insisting that a device that plays games as a secondary function can compete with dedicated gaming systems.

[QUOTE="mD-"]...to suggest that the Xperia Play isn't a legitimate handheld gaming device even though it has a solid gaming pad, access to the entire library of SNES, NES, SEGA GENESIS games and most of the N64/PS1 gaming library, access to exclusive android gamesbeing designed around the gaming pad, and hundreds of smaller great games like Plants Vs Zombies is very foolish!dzimm

No, what's foolish is insisting that a device that plays games as a secondary function can compete with dedicated gaming systems.

What about....

[QUOTE="dzimm"]

[QUOTE="mD-"]...to suggest that the Xperia Play isn't a legitimate handheld gaming device even though it has a solid gaming pad, access to the entire library of SNES, NES, SEGA GENESIS games and most of the N64/PS1 gaming library, access to exclusive android gamesbeing designed around the gaming pad, and hundreds of smaller great games like Plants Vs Zombies is very foolish!dercoo

No, what's foolish is insisting that a device that plays games as a secondary function can compete with dedicated gaming systems.

What about....

Except that PCs were always intended as multiple-function devices and are inherently well-suited for games. Cell phones, generally speaking, are not because games do not mesh well with a cell phone's primary function.

[QUOTE="mD-"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

looks like a cheap piece of crap, and has the playstation face buttons and no analouge sticks. I don't even know if you people are serious when you think these phones and the crappy throw away games are a good primary gaming option.

they just aren't.

theuncharted34

no, it's a phone. for gaming it's pretty crappy. like i said, talking about this is so ridiculous I can't even tell if you're serious, so I'm going to assume you're not.

for an added feature besides being a phone, the games are ok. if you're trying to pass it off as a capable primary gaming system, then no. just no. and that's the reason why the games would be getting decent scores, because it's just an added feature and the games are so cheap. once again, these phones are terrible for gaming only.

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[QUOTE="mD-"] You clearly didn't watch the whole video... The controls actually work fine. I'm not saying this the best handheld, but it is definitely a good device for gaming in general. If you disagree, you're either suggesting that this is the worst gaming pad ever or that the SNES, N64, PSONE, etc library of games and all android games are bad. So if I want re play Starfox 64 on this (which I own for the N64) and do it on the Xperia, is it still bad primary gaming option? What if I want to play the old simple 16-bit RPGs? Are they not good games anymore (Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger, etc)? My point is that it's still a good gaming device and people like you who don't know much about what you can do on Android and iOS suggesting that there's no way to have a good experience when there is. It doesn't have to be a 3DS or NGP to have a deep gaming experience. Also, check the reviews. The phone itself has been getting good reviews overall. mD-

no, it's a phone. for gaming it's pretty crappy. like i said, talking about this is so ridiculous I can't even tell if you're serious, so I'm going to assume you're not.

for an added feature besides being a phone, the games are ok. if you're trying to pass it off as a capable primary gaming system, then no. just no. and that's the reason why the games would be getting decent scores, because it's just an added feature and the games are so cheap. once again, these phones are terrible for gaming only.

well whatever. have fun with it is all I can say.

[QUOTE="mD-"]...to suggest that the Xperia Play isn't a legitimate handheld gaming device even though it has a solid gaming pad, access to the entire library of SNES, NES, SEGA GENESIS games and most of the N64/PS1 gaming library, access to exclusive android gamesbeing designed around the gaming pad, and hundreds of smaller great games like Plants Vs Zombies is very foolish!dzimm

No, what's foolish is insisting that a device that plays games as a secondary function can compete with dedicated gaming systems.

Tell that to all of those who still enjoy the classic games... and this message seems to STILL suggest that I feel that this device can compete with dedicated gaming systems. If that's the case, then you still haven't been reading my posts clearly enough.

I'll sum it up for you: I think that the Xperia Play is good handheld gaming device. I think you can still get a good quality gaming experience out of it considering the fact that you can play older games like N64 games and that developers are improving with the quality of android games that are coming out. I don't think that it's better than the new handheld gaming devices coming out though.

It's still a phone......

[QUOTE="dzimm"]

...to suggest that the Xperia Play isn't a legitimate handheld gaming device even though it has a solid gaming pad, access to the entire library of SNES, NES, SEGA GENESIS games and most of the N64/PS1 gaming library, access to exclusive android gamesbeing designed around the gaming pad, and hundreds of smaller great games like Plants Vs Zombies is very foolish!mD-

No, what's foolish is insisting that a device that plays games as a secondary function can compete with dedicated gaming systems.

What about....

[QUOTE="mD-"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

no, it's a phone. for gaming it's pretty crappy. like i said, talking about this is so ridiculous I can't even tell if you're serious, so I'm going to assume you're not.

for an added feature besides being a phone, the games are ok. if you're trying to pass it off as a capable primary gaming system, then no. just no. and that's the reason why the games would be getting decent scores, because it's just an added feature and the games are so cheap. once again, these phones are terrible for gaming only.

theuncharted34

well whatever. have fun with it is all I can say.

I don't plan on buying this phone, thank you. Maybe you should actually read what's being discussed before coming into a discussion and giving your input. I don't mind others opinions, but it's clear here that you didn't bother looking paying attention to the points I was trying to make based on your responses.

[QUOTE="dercoo"]

[QUOTE="dzimm"]

[QUOTE="mD-"]...to suggest that the Xperia Play isn't a legitimate handheld gaming device even though it has a solid gaming pad, access to the entire library of SNES, NES, SEGA GENESIS games and most of the N64/PS1 gaming library, access to exclusive android gamesbeing designed around the gaming pad, and hundreds of smaller great games like Plants Vs Zombies is very foolish!dzimm

No, what's foolish is insisting that a device that plays games as a secondary function can compete with dedicated gaming systems.

What about....

Except that PCs were always intended as multiple-function devices and are inherently well-suited for games. Cell phones, generally speaking, are not because games do not mesh well with a cell phone's primary function.

But smartphones were designed for multiple functions in mind....

That is what, you know makes them smart phones

But smartphones were designed for multiple functions in mind....

That is what, you know makes them smart phones

dercoo

Their primary function is still as a communications device, and they're not inherently well-suited for playing games. So, really, nothing like a PC. Sorry.

[QUOTE="dercoo"]

But smartphones were designed for multiple functions in mind....

That is what, you know makes them smart phones

dzimm

Their primary function is still as a communications device, and they're not inherently well-suited for playing games. So, really, nothing like a PC. Sorry.

[QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"]

lol, phone. :lol:

mD-

Lol, phone:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr0c79JAYBw

does this phone have shoulder buttons? no Z button for N64 games is FAIL

[QUOTE="mD-"]

[QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"]

lol, phone. :lol:

KBFloYd

Lol, phone:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr0c79JAYBw

does this phone have shoulder buttons? no Z button for N64 games is FAIL

it has two, its made like psp go

Except that PCs were always intended as multiple-function devices and are inherently well-suited for games. Cell phones, generally speaking, are not because games do not mesh well with a cell phone's primary function.

dzimm

Xperia play was built with gaming in mind though. Anyway I agree TC with phones getting more and more of the capabilities of handhelds soon we may see nintendo being forced to add phone functionality to their handhelds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=womVjs4Muao&feature=related

^ looks great for a cell phone game and honestly it reminds me of halo with a mix of quake.

I'm still thinking about getting one, but emulators aren't much of a big deal for me :S Is there anything this thing has to offer besides Emulators? How "solid" is the battery life: How long can I play with it before the battery is empty? And is it true that the Display is dark so you don't see much if it's bright outside? I have an iPhone 3GS, PSP and 3DS ATM and planing on replacing the 3GS with a iPhone 4 or Xperia Play

Lol just saw it for£519.99, no thanks.

Xperia Play is just a wannabe product by sony to cash in some of the 'mobile gamer (not a nerd, honest)" croud that the loathsome iphone managed to spawn.

And it's funny how you are pretty chuffed about running emulators on it....I was running emulators on my n95 way back in 2007 :lol:

So i have Xperia Play for two weeks and its the best handheld i have ever owned. Seriously the problem with handhelds is that they still work like consoles by being a portable device. Xperia Play is like a PC. It doesnt require any slots like handhelds its full based on downloadble media and it works like a pc. You can upgrade the sd card to 32 gb and that doesnt cost much just 50€. Android is like windows now while 3DS is like a console. Its a closed system without any harddrive. For every game you need to change the sd card all the time and every game needs to be put it in a plastic case or something and you have to take them with you + your mobile phone which needs to be charged too.

This concept doesnt fit in our time guys, it only works in kindergarden where kids trade their nintendo sd cards, sd cards let me show them. Xperia Play is the future it works like a handheld but has a free operating system. The only handheld i see hope is ngp since its really gonna be strong and the psn that is up allready has downloadble games too. Nintendo really is missing such a service they cant rely on sd cards in plastic boxes. Also while i am writing this i read gadafis second youngest son is killed by nato man thats uncool :(

HFkami

Xperia Play is just a wannabe product by sony to cash in some of the 'mobile gamer (not a nerd, honest)" croud that the loathsome iphone managed to spawn.

And it's funny how you are pretty chuffed about running emulators on it....I was running emulators on my n95 way back in 2007 :lol:

Another-World

but it has not good controls, my xperia play is better for gaming

[QUOTE="dzimm"]

Except that PCs were always intended as multiple-function devices and are inherently well-suited for games. Cell phones, generally speaking, are not because games do not mesh well with a cell phone's primary function.

Espada12

Xperia play was built with gaming in mind though.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="dzimm"]

Except that PCs were always intended as multiple-function devices and are inherently well-suited for games. Cell phones, generally speaking, are not because games do not mesh well with a cell phone's primary function.

dzimm

Xperia play was built with gaming in mind though.

I'm still thinking about getting one, but emulators aren't much of a big deal for me :S Is there anything this thing has to offer besides Emulators? How "solid" is the battery life: How long can I play with it before the battery is empty? And is it true that the Display is dark so you don't see much if it's bright outside? I have an iPhone 3GS, PSP and 3DS ATM and planing on replacing the 3GS with a iPhone 4 or Xperia Play

ArchoNils2

if ff7 is able to be put on those then i might just go annoy vodafone bout it if they have it.Even tekken would be nice tbh or an ace combat cough *2* cough.

[QUOTE="dzimm"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

Xperia play was built with gaming in mind though.

Bread_or_Decide

Quick, tell us how the 3DS sold poorly based on regional numbers! :lol:

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="dzimm"] Except it's shoehorned onto a platform that is not well-suited for gaming.dzimm

Quick, tell us how the 3DS sold poorly based on regional numbers! :lol:

[QUOTE="ArchoNils2"]

I'm still thinking about getting one, but emulators aren't much of a big deal for me :S Is there anything this thing has to offer besides Emulators? How "solid" is the battery life: How long can I play with it before the battery is empty? And is it true that the Display is dark so you don't see much if it's bright outside? I have an iPhone 3GS, PSP and 3DS ATM and planing on replacing the 3GS with a iPhone 4 or Xperia Play

SakusEnvoy

Well itis a though decision as we don't know how well Sony pushes the system. If it can offer some decent exclusives and the Android market grows it might be a good addition to my 3GS. On the other hand I haven't seen a single mobile phone that comes close to the almost perfect touch screen control of the 3GS :S Anyone knows how much better Apps run on a iPhone 4? Anyone knows when to expect iPhone 5? :S it's hard to chose a new mobile phone :/ I'm afraid I end up getting both xD

[QUOTE="Another-World"]

Xperia Play is just a wannabe product by sony to cash in some of the 'mobile gamer (not a nerd, honest)" croud that the loathsome iphone managed to spawn.

And it's funny how you are pretty chuffed about running emulators on it....I was running emulators on my n95 way back in 2007 :lol:

HFkami

but it has not good controls, my xperia play is better for gaming

Sony made a few patents back in 2006, 2007 and they have the patent on PS controls and the sensitive dual analog pads for the XPlay.

[QUOTE="dzimm"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Like shoehorning 3D into a hand held despite the fact that if you move you lose the effect? Bread_or_Decide

Quick, tell us how the 3DS sold poorly based on regional numbers! :lol:

yeah europeans are looking for phones instead of handhelds

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="dzimm"]

Quick, tell us how the 3DS sold poorly based on regional numbers! :lol:

HFkami

yeah europeans are looking for phones instead of handhelds