XSX is a BEAST!!!!!! Stalker 2 120FPS Ray Tracing. Competition GAME OVER!!!!!!

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#51 VFighter
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Forget about breaking all your fingers, please just run head long,into a brick wall as many times as needed until some common sense appears. 120fps, 4k and ray tracing, bwahahahahaha yet their flagship title looks like a potato.

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#52 JoshRMeyer
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No where in the links does it say this game will be 120 fps. It just says it's for xbox series x, and that console can achieve fps UP TO 120fps on some games.

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#53 sheep99
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@rzxv04: series x has the power to do it all but i doubt it that i can do all of it at the same we will see once they start showing us the games using the X but with MS strategy it will be in 3 years

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@sheep99 said:

@rzxv04: series x has the power to do it all but i doubt it that i can do all of it at the same we will see once they start showing us the games using the X but with MS strategy it will be in 3 years

Pretty much.

I expect it much earlier through 3rd party AAA games.

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#55 SecretPolice
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Poo cows, just can't catch a break these dayz.

And dang, they get stuck with the biggest most fugliest console ever created not to mention with all that fugly it's WeakSauce to boot and has no note worthy games coming as well..

lol :P

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@i_own_u_4ever said:

This is fake it does not look that washed out. Also Halo Infinite is full in game in engine cut scene not separate out of in game engine cut scene big difference.

What does that even mean?

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#57 I_own_u_4ever
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@Tessellation said:

I really doubt it will be 4K 120 fps with raytracing on, with just only being 60fps,open world ,4K and ray traced would be enough to humiliated the 9.2 TFlops console.

I know right that 9.2 would be the struggles and the George Foreman Grill 5 will catch on fire.

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so sick of seeing that commando meme. please leave it out of your post. i like the links and stuff but that meme is getting old.

Especially with that bugger floating right beside the box lol

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@pc_rocks said:
@i_own_u_4ever said:

This is fake it does not look that washed out. Also Halo Infinite is full in game in engine cut scene not separate out of in game engine cut scene big difference.

What does that even mean?

means the cut scene are all cgi and looks nothing like the game play. were know a days the cutscenes are rendered in game that looks identical to the gameplay. this is not ps 1 or ps 2 days any more.

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#60 Gifford38
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@gifford38 said:
@pc_rocks said:
@i_own_u_4ever said:

This is fake it does not look that washed out. Also Halo Infinite is full in game in engine cut scene not separate out of in game engine cut scene big difference.

What does that even mean?

means the cut scene are all cgi and looks nothing like the game play. were know a days the cutscenes are rendered in game that looks identical to the gameplay. this is not ps 1 or ps 2 days any more.

OW WAIT I THOUGHT WE WAS TALKING ABOUT HALO WRONG POST LMAO.

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@Tessellation said:

I really doubt it will be 4K 120 fps with raytracing on, with just only being 60fps,open world ,4K and ray traced would be enough to humiliated the 9.2 TFlops console.

It'll be either 30fps, ray traced in 4k or 60fps, no ray tracing in 4k. And it's 10.28TF. The Series X has a 15% power advantage with a 53% weaker SSD.

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#62 LouiXIII
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@i_own_u_4ever said:
@tormentos said:
@i_own_u_4ever said:

This is fake it does not look that washed out. Also Halo Infinite is full in game in engine cut scene not separate out of in game engine cut scene big difference.

Oh you definitely proved us wrong with those screens..

Your trying to hard Tormentos. Have fun playing 30fps games on PS5

Spiderman: MM is 4K at 60fps, so are a lot of games.

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#63 pelvist
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So, console gamers love STALKER now?

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@pelvist said:

So, console gamers love STALKER now?

More like do they know what STALKER is? lol

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#65 I_own_u_4ever
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@louixiii said:
@Tessellation said:

I really doubt it will be 4K 120 fps with raytracing on, with just only being 60fps,open world ,4K and ray traced would be enough to humiliated the 9.2 TFlops console.

It'll be either 30fps, ray traced in 4k or 60fps, no ray tracing in 4k. And it's 10.28TF. The Series X has a 15% power advantage with a 53% weaker SSD.

Nice try Pony but SSD's don't make graphics and with XSX velocity architecture it's about a wash in performance between the PS5 and XSX in regards to loading game data and loading screens. Also it's more then 15% it's more then 2 tflops more GPU power with faster memory bandwidth to the GPU it's like 30-40% more power.

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#66  Edited By LandCrab
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@i_own_u_4ever: shhhh don’t use facts.

Xbox series x is going to make this game even more stunning

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#67 Ten_Pints
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'up to 120 frames per second', so it could be 30fps then.

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#68 NoodleFighter
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@Zero_epyon said:
@pelvist said:

So, console gamers love STALKER now?

More like do they know what STALKER is? lol

Hey they need something to be hype for as an "exclusive" whether they actually care about the franchise or not.

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@i_own_u_4ever said:
@louixiii said:
@Tessellation said:

I really doubt it will be 4K 120 fps with raytracing on, with just only being 60fps,open world ,4K and ray traced would be enough to humiliated the 9.2 TFlops console.

It'll be either 30fps, ray traced in 4k or 60fps, no ray tracing in 4k. And it's 10.28TF. The Series X has a 15% power advantage with a 53% weaker SSD.

Nice try Pony but SSD's don't make graphics and with XSX velocity architecture it's about a wash in performance between the PS5 and XSX in regards to loading game data and loading screens. Also it's more then 15% it's more then 2 tflops more GPU power with faster memory bandwidth to the GPU it's like 30-40% more power.

I see that math isn't your strong suit Bot.

12-10.28 = 1.72

Since you think the SSD has nothing to do with graphics, here's a link. Now go and educate yourself instead of talking out of the side of your neck.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kevinmurnane/2020/03/22/power-vs-speed-the-xbox-series-x-and-ps5-are-very-different-animals/#4719471c29d7

Key takeaways...

"Microsoft locks CPU clocks in the Series X while Sony lets clocks vary with demand in the PS5. The companies follow the same approach with their custom GPUs. The GPU in the Series X is a customized AMD RDNA 2 chip with 52 compute units running at a locked 1.825 GHz. The PS5’s RDNA 2 chip has 36 compute units capped at 2.23 GHz. The compute units in the PS5 are faster but there are fewer of them."

"The increased throughput between the SSD and the CPU/GPU gives developers access to more data more quickly which translates into more lifelike images based on richer textures and denser underlying geometry."

Once again, 15% power difference in terms of raw power but the PS5 moves more units faster both on a GPU side and SSD pretty much doubling the speed overall.

I layman's terms, 3rd party games will look a tad bit better on Series X but run a lot smoother on PS5. The only time you'll see the full power of either console is when first party devs push them to the limit but that's not going to be easy being that they both pack a lot more power than previous consoles. Unfortunately, Craig was a result of "The Battle of The Cross Gen" lol

Anyway, it doesn't even matter because Microsoft isn't into selling consoles anymore...or has your Bot Brain forgotten? They're all about the service now xD

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#70 I_own_u_4ever
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@louixiii said:
@i_own_u_4ever said:
@louixiii said:
@Tessellation said:

I really doubt it will be 4K 120 fps with raytracing on, with just only being 60fps,open world ,4K and ray traced would be enough to humiliated the 9.2 TFlops console.

It'll be either 30fps, ray traced in 4k or 60fps, no ray tracing in 4k. And it's 10.28TF. The Series X has a 15% power advantage with a 53% weaker SSD.

Nice try Pony but SSD's don't make graphics and with XSX velocity architecture it's about a wash in performance between the PS5 and XSX in regards to loading game data and loading screens. Also it's more then 15% it's more then 2 tflops more GPU power with faster memory bandwidth to the GPU it's like 30-40% more power.

I see that math isn't your strong suit Bot.

12-10.28 = 1.72

Since you think the SSD has nothing to do with graphics, here's a link. Now go and educate yourself instead of talking out of the side of your neck.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kevinmurnane/2020/03/22/power-vs-speed-the-xbox-series-x-and-ps5-are-very-different-animals/#4719471c29d7

Key takeaways...

"Microsoft locks CPU clocks in the Series X while Sony lets clocks vary with demand in the PS5. The companies follow the same approach with their custom GPUs. The GPU in the Series X is a customized AMD RDNA 2 chip with 52 compute units running at a locked 1.825 GHz. The PS5’s RDNA 2 chip has 36 compute units capped at 2.23 GHz. The compute units in the PS5 are faster but there are fewer of them."

"The increased throughput between the SSD and the CPU/GPU gives developers access to more data more quickly which translates into more lifelike images based on richer textures and denser underlying geometry."

Once again, 15% power difference in terms of raw power but the PS5 moves more units faster both on a GPU side and SSD pretty much doubling the speed overall.

I layman's terms, 3rd party games will look a tad bit better on Series X but run a lot smoother on PS5. The only time you'll see the full power of either console is when first party devs push them to the limit but that's not going to be easy being that they both pack a lot more power than previous consoles. Unfortunately, Craig was a result of "The Battle of The Cross Gen" lol

Anyway, it doesn't even matter because Microsoft isn't into selling consoles anymore...or has your Bot Brain forgotten? They're all about the service now xD

Oh look a pony desperately wants to convince themselves the PS5 can some how do super duper boost. SSD's have been around for years it can push data but does not specifically produce graphics effects. You know what does do graphics effects those extra CU's on the XSX GPU and that locked 3.8 CPU will feed that locked 12.145 GPU faster and sustained 100% of the time locked and those 52CU's has plenty of room to do high level dedicated RT. Meanwhile the PS5 will be a bit limited in CU's and be trying to figure out should it boost CPU wait gotta cool down some lets boost the GPU wait gotta cool down back to 9 something tflops we go, but at least it can boost to an un sustained CPU at 3.5. Meanwhile the Velocity pipeline is feeding that locked 3.8 CPU and locked 52CU's 12.145 GPU in the XSX

All this equals about 30% XSX >>> PS5

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#71 I_own_u_4ever
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@NoodleFighter said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@pelvist said:

So, console gamers love STALKER now?

More like do they know what STALKER is? lol

Hey they need something to be hype for as an "exclusive" whether they actually care about the franchise or not.

XSX is the Hardcore Gamers box.

Best versions of Cyber Punk 2077

Stalker 2

Avowed

Fable

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#72  Edited By pelvist
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@i_own_u_4ever: "Lets play some hardcore Fable on nightmare difficulty". -Said no-one ever.

Maybe your character can actually die on this one eh? "Hardcore gamers box". :D

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@i_own_u_4ever said:
@NoodleFighter said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@pelvist said:

So, console gamers love STALKER now?

More like do they know what STALKER is? lol

Hey they need something to be hype for as an "exclusive" whether they actually care about the franchise or not.

XSX is the Hardcore Gamers box.

Best versions of Cyber Punk 2077

Stalker 2

Avowed

Fable

They are all PC exclusive in disguise because xbox is mini PC.

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#74 Ghosts4ever
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@pelvist said:

So, console gamers love STALKER now?

THey wont like STALKER 2 when it will release.

they might get only vanilla STALKER 2 with stripped UI.

We will get true STALKER 2 with mod support and PC UI with lean and peak. hopefully GSC went arkane or Deus Ex HR when they design different UI for PC and console otherwise i would ditch this game.

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@louixiii said:
@i_own_u_4ever said:
@tormentos said:
@i_own_u_4ever said:

This is fake it does not look that washed out. Also Halo Infinite is full in game in engine cut scene not separate out of in game engine cut scene big difference.

Oh you definitely proved us wrong with those screens..

Your trying to hard Tormentos. Have fun playing 30fps games on PS5

Spiderman: MM is 4K at 60fps, so are a lot of games.

No and no... The games shown at the PS5 launch only 2-3 had confirmed 60FPS since there Youtube 4K footage had a 60FPS option the other 13 or so games were 30FPS.

And Spiderman has a PERORMANCE option at 4K/60... Meaning lower settings and no ray tracing, to get the game running with Ray Tracing and higher next gen graphics your not getting 60FPS.

60FPS is only for easy to run games and games developeded with 60FPS in mind like sports games and shooters, everything else might have a 60FPS option but it will cut graphical features BUT so far its not any close to a LOT of games as clearly its less than 1/5th of the games shown for the PS5 are actually 60FPS footage.

Lots of games?... Few of the games are what you where trying to say.

I swear you console gamers really need to understand there is no magical "optimisation" wand, games are getting a lot more demanding but visually are starting to stagnate, in order to get a next generation experience visually 60FPS is not happening on 9 or 10.4 or even 12 TFLOPS from AMD.

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#76 Ten_Pints
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Frame rate has nothing to do with computing power, it's a developer choice, always has been. The PS2 had 60fps games.

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#77 Tessellation
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@i_own_u_4ever: It's kinda sad and amazing at the same time that Sony fans were made to believe that a faster SDD will make up for the weak specs lol... SDD will only make things faster when it comes to streaming/descompressing assets and reduce loading times... But it won't make games look and run better 🤣

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#78  Edited By Bluestars
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@ghosts4ever:

Let’s be clear here,pc couldn’t stop these games from coming to Xbox...but XBOX studios could stop them going to pc

HaH

Hermits are xboxes bitches,say thank you to MS for gamepass and the games

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#79  Edited By SecretPolice
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@bluestars said:

@ghosts4ever:

Let’s be clear here,pc couldn’t stop these games from coming to Xbox...but XBOX studios could stop them going to pc

HaH

Hermits are xboxes bitches,say thank you tho MS for gamepass and the games

Pee Salty Seas am cry...

lol :P

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#80 Zero_epyon
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@NoodleFighter said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@pelvist said:

So, console gamers love STALKER now?

More like do they know what STALKER is? lol

Hey they need something to be hype for as an "exclusive" whether they actually care about the franchise or not.

This is true.

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#81 Martin_G_N
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It will end up with a 120fps mode with last gen effects, and one RT quality mode at 30fps. It can't do both.

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#82  Edited By tormentos
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@Tessellation:

Yeah if they would have claim new secret specs now that would have been much better.😂

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#83 LAtech84
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@bluestars: Now you are just sounding like a A-hole, Please be more respectful, it makes you look really immature. Xbox puts their games on PC because they make great money from it and it would not be in their best interests to not do so, why would any company give up huge amounts of money, it would not make sense. So you say they could not put them on PC if they wanted to, but why would they not want to do that and give up Millions of dollars from PC sales and services. Also PC has tons of games that Xbox does not so there are still advantages games wise of having one over an Xbox even without Xbox games, though those will always be there as well as money talks.

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#84 Bluestars
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@latech84:

HaH

Take a deep breath kid.

MS COULD make all of its first party games Xbox exclusives....right?

And MS COULD make Game pass Xbox only....right?

As for The question of if they would...99% no

..but My statement stands as FACT

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#85  Edited By LAtech84
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@bluestars said:

@latech84:

HaH

Take a deep breath kid.

MS COULD make all of its first party games Xbox exclusives....right?

And MS COULD make Game pass Xbox only....right?

As for The question of if they would...99% no

..but My statement stands as FACT

I am fine, quite calm, I never said it was not fact that they could if they wanted, the same way they could sell the XSX for $10 if they wanted but that would be financial suicide. I just felt you were being a little mean, that's all.

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#86  Edited By Fedor
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@bluestars said:

@latech84:

HaH

Take a deep breath kid.

MS COULD make all of its first party games Xbox exclusives....right?

And MS COULD make Game pass Xbox only....right?

As for The question of if they would...99% no

..but My statement stands as FACT

Stalker isn't an MS 1st party game. And no they couldn't just make everything Xbox exclusive again, their whole buisness plan that they've put into place over the last 3-4 years relies on their games and services being available on PC and other windows devices. Your scenario would completely kill profits, which would mean Xbox as a brand would be dead.

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#87  Edited By I_own_u_4ever
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@tormentos said:

@Tessellation:

Yeah if they would have claim new secret specs now that would have been much better.😂

9.2 secret RDNA 1.5 OC boost sauce

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#88 LouiXIII
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@i_own_u_4ever said:
@louixiii said:
@i_own_u_4ever said:
@louixiii said:
@Tessellation said:

I really doubt it will be 4K 120 fps with raytracing on, with just only being 60fps,open world ,4K and ray traced would be enough to humiliated the 9.2 TFlops console.

It'll be either 30fps, ray traced in 4k or 60fps, no ray tracing in 4k. And it's 10.28TF. The Series X has a 15% power advantage with a 53% weaker SSD.

Nice try Pony but SSD's don't make graphics and with XSX velocity architecture it's about a wash in performance between the PS5 and XSX in regards to loading game data and loading screens. Also it's more then 15% it's more then 2 tflops more GPU power with faster memory bandwidth to the GPU it's like 30-40% more power.

I see that math isn't your strong suit Bot.

12-10.28 = 1.72

Since you think the SSD has nothing to do with graphics, here's a link. Now go and educate yourself instead of talking out of the side of your neck.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kevinmurnane/2020/03/22/power-vs-speed-the-xbox-series-x-and-ps5-are-very-different-animals/#4719471c29d7

Key takeaways...

"Microsoft locks CPU clocks in the Series X while Sony lets clocks vary with demand in the PS5. The companies follow the same approach with their custom GPUs. The GPU in the Series X is a customized AMD RDNA 2 chip with 52 compute units running at a locked 1.825 GHz. The PS5’s RDNA 2 chip has 36 compute units capped at 2.23 GHz. The compute units in the PS5 are faster but there are fewer of them."

"The increased throughput between the SSD and the CPU/GPU gives developers access to more data more quickly which translates into more lifelike images based on richer textures and denser underlying geometry."

Once again, 15% power difference in terms of raw power but the PS5 moves more units faster both on a GPU side and SSD pretty much doubling the speed overall.

I layman's terms, 3rd party games will look a tad bit better on Series X but run a lot smoother on PS5. The only time you'll see the full power of either console is when first party devs push them to the limit but that's not going to be easy being that they both pack a lot more power than previous consoles. Unfortunately, Craig was a result of "The Battle of The Cross Gen" lol

Anyway, it doesn't even matter because Microsoft isn't into selling consoles anymore...or has your Bot Brain forgotten? They're all about the service now xD

Oh look a pony desperately wants to convince themselves the PS5 can some how do super duper boost. SSD's have been around for years it can push data but does not specifically produce graphics effects. You know what does do graphics effects those extra CU's on the XSX GPU and that locked 3.8 CPU will feed that locked 12.145 GPU faster and sustained 100% of the time locked and those 52CU's has plenty of room to do high level dedicated RT. Meanwhile the PS5 will be a bit limited in CU's and be trying to figure out should it boost CPU wait gotta cool down some lets boost the GPU wait gotta cool down back to 9 something tflops we go, but at least it can boost to an un sustained CPU at 3.5. Meanwhile the Velocity pipeline is feeding that locked 3.8 CPU and locked 52CU's 12.145 GPU in the XSX

All this equals about 30% XSX >>> PS5

Omgosh it's like talking to a brick wall lol

The only one that's desperate here is you. You seriously think a 15% power difference is going to make or break the PS5. I know you want Microsoft to make a comeback but after TWO awful shows back to back...hang it up little guy. Matter of fact, I'm not wasting anymore brain cells on you. Stay delusional. Meanwhile, I suggest finding a better math teacher or start using a calculator hater xD

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#89 LouiXIII
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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:
@louixiii said:
@i_own_u_4ever said:
@tormentos said:
@i_own_u_4ever said:

This is fake it does not look that washed out. Also Halo Infinite is full in game in engine cut scene not separate out of in game engine cut scene big difference.

Oh you definitely proved us wrong with those screens..

Your trying to hard Tormentos. Have fun playing 30fps games on PS5

Spiderman: MM is 4K at 60fps, so are a lot of games.

No and no... The games shown at the PS5 launch only 2-3 had confirmed 60FPS since there Youtube 4K footage had a 60FPS option the other 13 or so games were 30FPS.

And Spiderman has a PERORMANCE option at 4K/60... Meaning lower settings and no ray tracing, to get the game running with Ray Tracing and higher next gen graphics your not getting 60FPS.

60FPS is only for easy to run games and games developeded with 60FPS in mind like sports games and shooters, everything else might have a 60FPS option but it will cut graphical features BUT so far its not any close to a LOT of games as clearly its less than 1/5th of the games shown for the PS5 are actually 60FPS footage.

Lots of games?... Few of the games are what you where trying to say.

I swear you console gamers really need to understand there is no magical "optimisation" wand, games are getting a lot more demanding but visually are starting to stagnate, in order to get a next generation experience visually 60FPS is not happening on 9 or 10.4 or even 12 TFLOPS from AMD.

You opened up with "no and no" yet you confirmed exactly what I said later on in the reply lol

I really don't know what to think about that...

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120 fps in a game menu perhaps🤣

We, Eastern Europeans, are wise enough not to trust the word of an Eastern European developer. Original Stalker had most awful optimization at launch.