Y Sony no release any major self published games

During holiday season? Second year in a row?

Do they not care about their fan base in the most hectic period of the year?

Last holiday within a span of 2 months MS released 4 major titles as a publisher: Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, Halo MCC and D4. Compared to just LBP3 and DriveClub. If you count two third party exclusives, Dance Central Spotlight and Fantasia then MS had 5 exclusives (yes, I know D4 is now on PC but we're talking about status quo of 2014 and the fact that I count LBP3 as exclusive should tell you that I don't care Dance Central and Fantasia had 360 versions) that scored AA here and one that scored A. So that's SIX.

Not to mention the huge variety of these games. Something that Cows always say PS4 has and Xbone never has.

This year the trend seems to continue, so what's your take on this?

My take on it? Sony warned that this would happen, that they would not make as many first party games as with the PS3.

Sony does not have unlimited funds, to make games on a conveyer belt, nomatter how much the Cows around here would love to make it seem like it.

If I were to make an added reason, my guess would be the PS4s architecture seems to cause some issues, my guess is the CPU. That is mostly a case of Devs having to try to use those 6 (I think is avaiable for te Devs, one reserve and one OS, right?) cores, to spread out the Work load, which might indeed be harder then expected in some cases.

Sony delaying games out of the holiday window is more telling that they care more than ever about a game being ready for market, although the consideration to delay is multi-faceted (competing against third-party partners and major blockbuster titles, for example). Halo MCC should have absolutely been pushed from the Q4 2014 window, but MS' timetable wouldn't allow for it. The old Miyamoto adage, yet again (A bad game is disappointing forever, while a delayed game is a disappointment once).

I also can't find fault in Sony not risking to publish games that will hurt their bottom line (I can't imagine funding D4's development worked out well for MS, knowing the sales of that game). And there's something to be said about Sony's strategy toward indies. Sure, they're not actually publishing the titles, but their policy and approach has allowed the PS4 to experience a swell of content absent from its competitors and adds value to their platform without committing additional cost.

The greater concern is that many of Sony's first party studios are still off the radar, which has likely been caused by A) the death of Vita and transitioning studios to PS4 development and B) pushing studios to craft VR projects. Splitting development between traditional design and VR may very well spread them thin and doesn't bode well for the long-term if VR flops.

"A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever. " Gosh, get the quote right.

Tearaway Unfolded?

@jg4xchamp: I was actually thinking about this very quote when I was making this thread, thinking why delaying Uncharted 4 is actually a good thing.

Microsoft hasn't released a triple AAA in years i think there last game was screamride 5 months ago or something

MCC is a remaster when the **** was the last riple aaaa think of it microsoft hasn't made shit in a year

Should I just post it in Japanese instead, to ensure I am 100% accurate?

We really counting MCC and D4 as major?

Because U4 got delayed. They had 2 releases last year so not the second year in a row. OP, why hasn't MS released any major games since 2014?? Also, this thread is an obvious damage control thread from the one I made earlier today.

Your threads are shit click bait.

Just saying.

Actually, i'm agree...that's the main reason of why i don't see any point of getting a PS4 as of now (same with the X1 to be fair) the exclusives just aren't there anymore like they were in the last gen, and with a PC (and a WiiU if you enjoy Nintendo games) you are pretty much set for the whole gen.

The new console fad is to pay people to not make games for other platforms.

I think it's a little early to say that. I think PS4 is close to on par with quality exclusives at the same point in the ps3's lifecycle which would be early 2008.

@Salt_The_Fries: If we pretend the entire year doesn't matter except the Holiday season, then yeah.

Unlike others here though, I game all year long. Uncharted 4 will be around the corner, we got outstanding Bloodborne earlier this year. Shame The Order didn't deliver. MLB: The Show delivers though.

Look at Xbone though, M$ seem to only care about 3 months out of the year and then nothing. M$ haven't even published a major big retail exclusive game for Xbone since 2014...

Sony should step it up though for that season for seasonal gamers like you, I agree with that (although to be honest, Sony could have 10 Holiday titles this season and you wouldn't buy their machine so this discussion doesn't really matter ultimately I think)...but I know for a fact Sony have unannounced games from quality studios still waiting in the wings with projects. That's the price Sony pays for supporting the PS3 with exclusive 1st party support longer than M$ supported the 360 and Nintendo supported the Wii. The PS4 suffers a bit for that.

Also, D4 was NEVER major, and Halo MCC was a just a port job (a bad one). Credit to Xbone for Sunset of course. Forza Horizons are nice, like MLB The Show, for those sports gamers.

You know the fact that the last year and the beginning of this year turned out the way it did is NOT BY DESIGN (DO YOU UNDERSTAND IT?). It's just the way that year panned out. Sony had more games slated for that period, but they got delayed hence the upperhand in exclusives in the beginning of 2015.

Now, look for 2016 when Scalebound ,Quantum Break, Crackdown and ReCore are all slated for spring 2016 releases on Xbone...

It renders whatever point you had (because you said as if it was a routine, usually expressed in present simple, right? with adverbs of frequency? do you know them?) a MOOT POINT.

You cannot spell MOOT without MOO.

You get it?

BTW comparing racing games that have universal, worldwide appeal to sports games with a very niche audience limited to mostly North America (even if IT IS A HUGE SPORT IN AMERICA)...SMH.

I detect emotion. You just don't like Playstation and you moo a lot. Animals are cool man. We get it duders. You created a fallacy thread that didn't take into account an entire year and pretends holiday is when we gamers should count games. Why not Spring time? What about Summer time games? Why So SEASONAL? ;)

You play "what if" games. Well, What If those games didn't release at the beginning of the year for PS4, they released during Holiday 2014? Who cares. I can only deal with tangibles.

I did chuckle at Remedy's Quantum Break thrown in a list with a definitive date yet again. Man, it was only yesterday when Quantum was being listed in 2013 and supposedly due for 2014 and then we saw those same uber fans not learn their lesson and list Quantum for 2015. Now you have graciously thrown Quantum out for 2016 release date. As a legitimate Remedy fan, I learned long ago to stop listing their games with dates, lol. Alan Wait anyone?

Also, Scalebound, Crackdown, and ReCore...nice CGI. Hopefully those release soon. Also, Crackdown is lucky to be surrounded by those two titles. Baseball is played around the world, but my point is, I don't care for racing or baseball but they are games and they exist...except to you baseball suddenly doesn't exist, smh.

Meanwhile you throw money at EA Access, a publisher that banks on HUGE SPORTS IN AMERICA. You figure better to subscribe to EA rather than buy that dreadful Playstation. You must be skipping over Madden and a bunch of other Sports games to download that Plants and Zombies and Battlefield, mkay. Also, for someone who seems to have issues with AMERICA, you sure love Xbox which is headquartered in 'MERICA!

You probably won't even buy Scalebound since it's Kamiya's game, but I will LOVE the game. You list it though as if it's some ammo in a fanboy war, but I doubt you'll play it for more than a few hours because you seem to have a strong Japanese game design fetish which explains why you have avoided multiple generations of Playstation consoles (PS2, PS3, PS4). Nintendo too, but you since Sony is so evil, Nintendo is the better between the two consoles once you've secured your Xbone. It blows my mind to think of the many amazing gems you skipped out on just because they were Japanese developed or simply didn't release on Xbox. You won't see me skipping out of awesome games just because those games are only for Nintendo, Xbox, PC, handheld, or Playstation. Free your mind man.

Yes. And then point out the english quote was stated by the translator to whoever was interviewing Miyamoto at the time. The GOAT deserves that much. Plus the line is perfect.

On topic: I mean it be cooler if Microsoft and Sony had a staple of studios and projects built to entertain you over the course of a 12 month run, because as I'm sure some half wit will point out the Xbox One hasn't gotten a quality exclusive since what? Sunset Overdrive? And the PS4's only good exclusive this year is going to be Bloodborne.

Both first parties don't do enough, but at the least the PS4 gets more third party and indie stuff. Microsoft is still slacking behind there.

No. I've made this thread because currently, there is, again, a strong wave of negativity towards Xbone surrounded by circle-jerks of PlayStation fanboys and at the time no one is daring (temporary action - present continuous tense, right?) to talk anything positive with regards to Xbone and anything negative with regards to PS4. Even if an argument against Xbone is full of shit, and can be easily dispelled with simple facts, nobody even tries to. Either people let it go that way or join circle-jerk.

So if I hadn't done what I did, nobody would.

I was getting sick of this atmosphere.

Plus, I think I had a valid point that applied not only to one year, but two years, actually. But of course you had to repeat all the trappings of limited thinking some other TC "committed" in a parallel thread.

Now back to the point, I love PlatinumGames, I have GameCube and owned DS (would still own it if I didn't need money at the time). It's not an aversion I have towards Japanese consoles. PS3 and 4 are now hardly Japanese if you look at the BULK OF THE GAMES CATERED TO SELL THE MOST COPIES WORLDWIDE. And you can't dispute it. It's not Japanese games I have beef with either, it's homogenized JRPGs I can't stand. By the way, I love Nintendo despite some of their ridiculous decisions, online gaming ineptitude and technical deficiencies. I'll most likely buy a 2DS and Wii U later on this year. I also own a Dreamcast and guess what for? For its amazing variety of Japanese games. It's not because of some games being on PlayStation is why I skipped them. It's a combination of not having enough money to maintain libraries for two systems and the fact certain game just simply didn't interest me enough, regardless of their platform of release. End of.

By the way, a guy I'm tutoring owns PS3 but no longer uses it, since he's now only a PC gamer. He has The Last of Us and I was thinking of borrowing the console with the game. I don't have financial capabilities to own any Sony console, a fact that is further accentuated by very little appeal its games have to me. However, there are some titles I would really like to play and The Last of Us happens to be one of them. It's a matter of a preference, coupled with financial reasons (couldn't afford to have these two consoles; and I get Xbone games for free) and a thorough research that leaves me with not so many games that appeal to my tastes (only Bloodborne currently if we talk about PS4).

I won't lie to you that I prefer Xbone (but if I could I would go PC route) but it's not my intention to praise it to high heavens all the time (I have criticized it a lot here, too) and crap at PS4 all the time (I have created positive threads about it or its games, too, at least two times). The reason now, is, again, a valid point (regardless of agenda) and the need to clear up the air a bit in here, coz it was getting too steamy from that circle-jerk related jizz that's been happening for some time now.

Scalebound, however, is my #1 anticipated title. I find your claims about my attitude towards it simply preposterous. Because what I feel about it is exact opposite of what you had told in your last message.

I see. I don't come to SW enough these days to take a read of the atmosphere so I'll take your word for it.

Regarding Scalebound, maybe we can do a nice Achievement race or play some Scalebound MP (If at all possible) when that ships. I believe that may be my fave game next year based on the director. :P

Good luck on your TLOU situation. I'm not sure you'll be able to give it a fair chance, but if you do and you get to play it, I hope you enjoy it.

Truth told, you have noticed an interesting thing about the PS4's Holiday lineup two years running. even though we know why. I can say I know even in the PS2 and PS3 days there were some big 1st party games that would release in the beginning or middle of the year that seemed "like typical Holiday fare" and ended up being fantastic. It's just the way the cookie crumbles. Sometimes we get a kickass game in the beginning and nothing much in the tale end, the reverse....or both!

For instance, did you know the high profile developer Naughty Dog released 'The Last of Us' (100+ GOTY awards) for PS3 and the game was first released in June 14, 2013? Early Summer. God of War 3 was released in March 16, 2010. Heck the original God of War for PS2 released March 22, 2005! March for goodness sakes! Hmmm...It almost feels that if either of those PS3 games were on 360 they would have been delayed until September or October with perhaps polish or DLC planned to take advantage of the Xmas rush.

That's just a few examples of many. While the end game may be the same, these companies operate with different philosophies. So, while we could point out the hole's in these companies seasons (Xbone had no Spring or Summer 1st party games and PS4 had no Winter 1st party games, etc), ultimately we should just measure the output and do that annually.

A bad year is a bad year, and a good year is a good year.

I think Sony had more free approach to releasing games which stems from their PS1/PS2 heritage and Microsoft had been steeped in its corporate roots, but this is now changing with Phil Spencer. However some titles might still come out the dates they do because their development had already begun under Mattrick. Plus, it would still make more sense to release Halo/Gears/Forza at dates they do, because that's when they have traditionally been coming out. However, what I'm saying Spencer might change this schedule a bit and it seems that at least some of Scalebound/Crackdown/Quantum Break/ReCore is bound to come out early 2016 and the whatever doesn't will for sure come out mid-2016.

I'm all for that.

Break away from that Mattrick mentality. I'll continue to root for Phil Spencer, if indeed, this is a stance he truly represents (as opposed to telling me what I want to hear). Time will certainly tell and I'm on his side in the meantime.

lol, I like the fact that TC listed MCC and left off TLOU which essentially is just him ignoring games to buff his xbox list. His title claiming PS4 had NO first big first party releases for 2 holidays in a row, but then goes on to list 3rd party releases, multiplats and indie level games like fantasia completely ignoring games in those categories for PS4 same as with the remasters lol. This thread is a complete fail.

So If I update the list to account for his blatant erroneous list errors and added categories used to buff xb1, it looks like this

XB1: Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, Halo MCC, D4, Dance Central Spotlight, Fantasia.

PS4: Driveclub, Little Big Planet 3, The Last of Us R, The Binding of Issac rebirth, Guilty Gear X rd, Velocity 2X, Towerfall Ascension, Samurai Warriors 4, Hohokum, Infamous First Light...*i'll just stop here*

That's 10 PS4 games to >>>>> 6 xb1 games

Where is this argument going now? Time to move goal posts and rearrange arguments derp.

Fanboys want to throw in everything and the kitchen sink to help buff xbox lists but when you do the same for PS4 the fallacies of their arguments are exposed. I could easily show the same thing with this year as well.

Everyone seems to just ignores that and goes forward with this hypocritical fallacy thread anyway because playstation is the most hated system on the board and fanboys have to try to make themselves feel better somehow lol.

So xb1 is getting Halo 5, Gears Ultimate, Fable ledgens, Forza 6 and ROTTR and want to try to kick some sand because 5 games are the most they've ever had in a holiday season and they want to make a big deal out of it. Well let me take a moment to give you guys a hand for that grand accomplishment. *claps*

Spoiler: PS4 2015 fall lineup

1. Planetside II (just released)
2. J Stars Victory VS
3. GOW III Remastered
4. Godzilla
5. Everybody Gone to Rapture
6. One Piece Pirate Warriors 3
7. Uncharted The Drake Collection
8. No Man's Sky
9. Persona 5
10. Until Dawn
11. Nobunaga's Ambition: Sphere of Influence
12. Samurai Warriors 4 II
13. Dragon Quest Heroes
14. Tearway Unfilded
15. The Tomorrow Children

LMAO, this thread is joke for the fact that anyone actually ever even honestly entertained it.

LOL, Lems can't even get it right when they move the goal line. **** this thread lol