Yahtzee calls MGS4 the worst sequal of 2008

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#51 WasntAvailable
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[QUOTE="IronBass"] I agree with this. MGS3 is the best of the series.Dreams-Visions

Most people seem to agree that MGS3 is the best MGS now, which is odd. Just a few months ago the majority would have said MGS1. I wonder if this is a pattern type thing realted to the frequency of releases. I don't think many ever thought 2 was the best, too many people whiney about Raiden, so perhaps it's simply the case that MGS1 held it's place even when MGS3 was released (Poor MGS2, nobody ever loved you.). Now that MGS4 has been released it seems to be the case that MGS3 is the most popular MGS. If there is to be an MGS5 then it may be likely MGS4 will become the most popular MGS. This seems to quite common with video game series...

you can't go wrong with either MGS3 or MGS1. I had them as equals. But I think MGS3 was the more memorable one for me. The boss fights were some of the best ever in gaming. The music score, unforgettable. The motorcycle chase scene delivered. The final with The Boss? eye-watering. the story, well told. but MGS1 was the first for many. I'm going to pick up Twin Snakes soon, just to play it again with better graphics and cut-scenes. but really, can't go wrong with either.

I like them all about the same. I have tried to order them in a way I liked best, but I just couldn't do it, most likely because I can't remember 100% of each game. I've only played through MGS2 once because the disk got recked. They all have their own merits, and they are all distinctly diffrent. But it does seem the general opinion seems to have swayed towards MGS3 recently. It seems that many people like to push against common trends, for example, stating MGS4 is the worst in the series while XXXX is the best, but ironically they just become a part of another common trend created by people like them. Mabye it's just me, but it seems like this is the way alot of people like to think on message boards in general. Perhaps it's just out of the fear of becomming so predictable and cliched. Or mabye I'm just spending way to much time thinking about this, and in actual fact could be completely wrong. It does feel as if there is some desire to go agaisnt the norm here though. (I'm not saying you fall into this, just that it is something that I've noticed in general recently.)

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#52 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]MGS3 has the most basic storylines yet people like it more than the others, unfortunately the majority of people arent true fans of the seriesFirstDiscovery
just because it was it made more sense doesn't mean we're less fans than the next person. please don't try that garbage. I've probably been playing Metal Gear games longer than you've been alive.

Well im 19 years old, and ive played all the originals as well, yes by originals i mean before MGS1, shocker, there are games BEFORE MGS1 on PSone! Also, MGS3 was made for the masses, great game, but not for the true MGS fans when it came to storyline

yea, so I played those games when they FIRST came out. I'm 28. My point should have been clear: just because some of us think X game was better than Y game in the series, it doesn't mean we're any more or less a fan than anyone else. that's rather snobbish and near-sighted of you to even suggest it. It's not like we didn't get MGS1, 2 or 4. we just think MGS3 was exceptional and grossly underrated.
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#53 deactivated-5f6dd6241fdcc
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this coulden't stay in one thread? I hate yahtzee anyway hes just a hater and hates on everything...how bout he make a game so we can crap on itSunamaru

He's made quite a few games, actually... and they are quite good. Point-and-click adventures and stuff :)

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#54 YellowFIash
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Metal Gear Solid 2 doesn't deserve all the hate. Just because Kojima trolled and kept Raiden a secret until the game came out and was on Xbox means nothing. I really liked MGS2
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#55 AAllxxjjnn
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MGS3 has the most basic storylines yet people like it more than the others, unfortunately the majority of people arent true fans of the seriesFirstDiscovery
You mean made the most sense out of all the games in the series? Wasn't as bat**** crazy as the other games?
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#56 SupremeLegacy
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Totally disagree...
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#57 rockguy92
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Uh, Yahtzee?
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#58 monkeytoes61
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this coulden't stay in one thread? I hate yahtzee anyway hes just a hater and hates on everything...how bout he make a game so we can crap on itSunamaru
He does. He makes adventure games.
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#59 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="YellowFIash"]Metal Gear Solid 2 doesn't deserve all the hate. Just because Kojima trolled and kept Raiden a secret until the game came out and was on Xbox means nothing. I really liked MGS2

I'm sorry. what hate do you see for MGS2 in here? or are you...like...making that up in your mind? Liking one game more than another does not therefore infer hatred. it just means one is liked more.
[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]MGS3 has the most basic storylines yet people like it more than the others, unfortunately the majority of people arent true fans of the seriesAAllxxjjnn
You mean made the most sense out of all the games in the series? Wasn't as bat**** crazy as the other games?

he seems to think so. I'm scratching my head too.
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#60 GodofBigMacs
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Uhh, who again?
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#62 YellowFIash
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I'm talking about the Metal Gear Solid 2 hate in general. Not just in this thread
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#63 LinKuei_warrior
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He lost all credibility when he gave Saints Row 2 GOTYToriko42

he said it was his personal choice of game of the year cos Saints row 2 was a fun sandbox game where you did alot of fun stuff(im sure you already know that :) )

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#64 Dreams-Visions
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I'm talking about the Metal Gear Solid 2 hate in general. Not just in this threadYellowFIash
I don't see much. the only thing people didn't like was Raiden. but that's because that was a departure from the entire series. and because Raiden was a whimp, comparatively. if you think you see more than that here, you're imagining things.
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Looks like Yahtzee isn't always wrong. BioShockOwnz
Hah Seriously? You were calling him immature 2 weeks ago, and said he was pretty much childish
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#66 mlisen
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He lost all credibility when he gave Saints Row 2 GOTYToriko42
So you find it incredible that he could find that game more fun that MGS4? I enjoyed SR2 more than MGS4, it's a matter of taste.
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Looks like Yahtzee isn't always wrong. Animal-Mother
Hah Seriously? You were calling him immature 2 weeks ago, and said he was pretty much childish

He still does use immature and childish humor. I still agree with that statement. Doesn't mean he's not right 1% of the time. This is that 1%.

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#68 joopyme
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lol.

i thought yahtzee was a spoof of yahoo.

anyways, his opinion matters when you it favors your pref. console, ayt?

its ok, i dig you.

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yea, so I played those games when they FIRST came out. I'm 28. My point should have been clear: just because some of us think X game was better than Y game in the series, it doesn't mean we're any more or less a fan than anyone else. that's rather snobbish and near-sighted of you to even suggest it. It's not like we didn't get MGS1, 2 or 4. we just think MGS3 was exceptional and grossly underrated. Dreams-Visions
Really? Awesome, because MG1 was butchered for the the NES, and MG2 was pretty difficult to acquire. Snakes Revenge wasnt half bad though, i also enjoyed the GBC game, great storyline. I only got to plat them on emulation, so you mustve been one hardcore gamer. The thing is, i as well as many other MG fans feel that MGS3 was made so that common people will understand it, i was around 13 when i played MGS2 yet i got the storyline. Offcourse it was only later i understoot the philosophical underlyings, but in MGS3, to appeal to lessers they stripped all that complexity out. I think that is pretty much casualisation in a nutshell. How people couldnt keep up with it is beyond me, i mean there are many flaws to the plot, but heck, its still awesome MGS3 is indeed an incredible game, loved every minute of it, but its easy to see what they did to the story, and why...
You mean made the most sense out of all the games in the series? Wasn't as bat**** crazy as the other games?AAllxxjjnn
Refer to above...
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#70 FirstDiscovery
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Looks like Yahtzee isn't always wrong. BioShockOwnz

Hah Seriously? You were calling him immature 2 weeks ago, and said he was pretty much childish

He still does use immature and childish humor. I still agree with that statement. Doesn't mean he's not right 1% of the time. This is that 1%.

Is MGS4 your first MGS?
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Another great video, even if I disagree with several of those, especially GTA4.
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#72 pdizzel87
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Yahtzee's reviews shouldn't be taken too seriously as they seem to be mostly for entertainment rather than advising people on what games to buy. He seems to highlight everything a game does badly and gives very little praise. That being said the reviews I have seen are pretty funny even though I disagree with most of what he says.

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#73 FFXIII360
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MGS4 is in a class of it's own and that class would be crap
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] yea, so I played those games when they FIRST came out. I'm 28. My point should have been clear: just because some of us think X game was better than Y game in the series, it doesn't mean we're any more or less a fan than anyone else. that's rather snobbish and near-sighted of you to even suggest it. It's not like we didn't get MGS1, 2 or 4. we just think MGS3 was exceptional and grossly underrated. FirstDiscovery
Really? Awesome, because MG1 was butchered for the the NES, and MG2 was pretty difficult to acquire. Snakes Revenge wasnt half bad though, i also enjoyed the GBC game, great storyline. I only got to plat them on emulation, so you mustve been one hardcore gamer. The thing is, i as well as many other MG fans feel that MGS3 was made so that common people will understand it, i was around 13 when i played MGS2 yet i got the storyline. Offcourse it was only later i understoot the philosophical underlyings, but in MGS3, to appeal to lessers they stripped all that complexity out. I think that is pretty much casualisation in a nutshell. How people couldnt keep up with it is beyond me, i mean there are many flaws to the plot, but heck, its still awesome MGS3 is indeed an incredible game, loved every minute of it, but its easy to see what they did to the story, and why...
You mean made the most sense out of all the games in the series? Wasn't as bat**** crazy as the other games?AAllxxjjnn
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Common people? I'm guessing you're one of those elitist kids. Honestly, why do you care about most of that preachy-pretentious garbage?
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#75 wooooode
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He just says what ever he has to, in order to make people mad because that is what he gets paid to do.
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Looks like Yahtzee isn't always wrong. FirstDiscovery
MGS4 was awesome, just because you cant appreciate what makes the series so amazing to fans doesnt mean it sucks. In fact, im willing to bet that if you played all the MG games, youll think 3 is the best:? On the other hand, people are getting worked up over trash like CoD4, horrible SP and shallow MP, kids these days, dont know how to respect a franchise, i bet if they played CoD2 they would think the SP was too non-linear:?

I appreciated what made MGS awesome. Then MGS 2 came out...

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#77 svetzenlether
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Wow, Yahtzee's REALLY pissed you guys off, huh??

Well, his job's done...

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#78 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Hah Seriously? You were calling him immature 2 weeks ago, and said he was pretty much childishFirstDiscovery

He still does use immature and childish humor. I still agree with that statement. Doesn't mean he's not right 1% of the time. This is that 1%.

Is MGS4 your first MGS?

Nope. I own and have played through MGS, VR Missions, MGS2: Substance, MGS3: Subsistance, MGS4, MGS: PO, MGS: PO+ (not really much of a SP game), MGA, and MGA2.

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thats great, but still love his reviews
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#81 LinKuei_warrior
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I agree with him though: I probably got more enjoyment out of saintsrow 2 than any other game that came out in 08
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#82 drinkerofjuice
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I can't agree or disagree because I haven't played the game yet. I strongly disagree with GTA4 though. People need to learn to not take him seriously. It's all just for the lolz which is why I liked the video.
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#83 Eyezonmii
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this guy annoys me now, sure at first he seemed cool and down to the point, but now its stupid, he isn't funny and hating on basically all games....shows me he does it for attention. i can't take this guy srsly for reviews. I don't think he wants us too.