Yes rrod happens but lookie here YLOD

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-system-failure-article Out of the 20 consoles they get for repair on average 12 are xboxes and 8 are PS3's. Both consoles have problems over time with haet issues because of non- lead soilder. 60/40 split between xbox and PS3 repairs. Thank god for a three year warranty and not just a one year one!

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-system-failure-article Out of the 20 consoles they get for repair on average 12 are xboxes and 8 are PS3's. Both consoles have problems over time with haet issues because of non- lead soilder. 60/40 split between xbox and PS3 repairs. Thank god for a three year warranty and not just a one year one!

vaderhater

gimme back my lead

i bet the vegans are in on this too, those guys are totally in denial about what they are

I couldn't care any less, Microsoft fixes my consoles nonetheless and gives me compensation, so honestly i don't care one bit for the RROD

I couldn't care any less, Microsoft fixes my consoles nonetheless and gives me compensation, so honestly i don't care one bit for the RROD

DoomZaW

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-system-failure-article Out of the 20 consoles they get for repair on average 12 are xboxes and 8 are PS3's. Both consoles have problems over time with haet issues because of non- lead soilder. 60/40 split between xbox and PS3 repairs. Thank god for a three year warranty and not just a one year one!

Riverwolf007

gimme back my lead

i bet the vegans are in on this too, those guys are totally in denial about what they are

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-system-failure-article Out of the 20 consoles they get for repair on average 12 are xboxes and 8 are PS3's. Both consoles have problems over time with haet issues because of non- lead soilder. 60/40 split between xbox and PS3 repairs. Thank god for a three year warranty and not just a one year one!

-DrRobotnik-

gimme back my lead

i bet the vegans are in on this too, those guys are totally in denial about what they are

Apparently Sony has a class action lawsuit already in the pipes.http://www.lawyerseek.com/Practice/Consumer-Protection-C21/Playstation-3-Yellow-Light-of-Death-P212/

Apparently Sony has a class action lawsuit already in the pipes.http://www.lawyerseek.com/Practice/Consumer-Protection-C21/Playstation-3-Yellow-Light-of-Death-P212/

shad0w70

Just incase anyone is keeping a running tally, the 360's failure rate is (source and date in brackets):

-3-5% industry average (MS, LTD)
-33% (former EB employee, Jul '07)
-16% (SquareTrade report, Feb '08 )
-54% (GI poll, Aug 09)
-~60% (DF article, Aug 09)

and for the PS3:

-3-5% industry average (Sony, LTD)
-10% (GI poll, Aug 09)
-~40% (DF article, Aug 09)

I believe this is what staticticians would refer to as a "cluster****".

PBSnipes

[QUOTE="shad0w70"]

Apparently Sony has a class action lawsuit already in the pipes.http://www.lawyerseek.com/Practice/Consumer-Protection-C21/Playstation-3-Yellow-Light-of-Death-P212/

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

Just incase anyone is keeping a running tally, the 360's failure rate is (source and date in brackets):

-3-5% industry average (MS, LTD)
-33% (former EB employee, Jul '07)
-16% (SquareTrade report, Feb '08 )
-54% (GI poll, Aug 09)
-~60% (DF article, Aug 09)

and for the PS3:

-3-5% industry average (Sony, LTD)
-10% (GI poll, Aug 09)
-~40% (DF article, Aug 09)

I believe this is what staticticians would refer to as a "cluster****".

vaderhater

You're right. Stupid mistake is stupid.

Now I wonder with Sony's one year warranty and these PS3's breaking down outta warranty is that how Sony with increase the # of PS3's sold out there when one has to buy a new one. :P

Apparently Sony has a class action lawsuit already in the pipes.http://www.lawyerseek.com/Practice/Consumer-Protection-C21/Playstation-3-Yellow-Light-of-Death-P212/

shad0w70

:? Four Red Lights for the Xbox 360 means your AV cable isn't pluged in right, 3-Red Lights mean critical failure. :|

[QUOTE="shad0w70"]

Apparently Sony has a class action lawsuit already in the pipes.http://www.lawyerseek.com/Practice/Consumer-Protection-C21/Playstation-3-Yellow-Light-of-Death-P212/

DarkGamer007

:? Four Red Lights for the Xbox 360 means your AV cable isn't pluged in right, 3-Red Lights mean critical failure. :|

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

Just incase anyone is keeping a running tally, the 360's failure rate is (source and date in brackets):

-3-5% industry average (MS, LTD)
-33% (former EB employee, Jul '07)
-16% (SquareTrade report, Feb '08 )
-54% (GI poll, Aug 09)
-~60% (DF article, Aug 09)

and for the PS3:

-3-5% industry average (Sony, LTD)
-10% (GI poll, Aug 09)
-~40% (DF article, Aug 09)

I believe this is what staticticians would refer to as a "cluster****".

PBSnipes

You're right. Stupid mistake is stupid.

[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

[QUOTE="shad0w70"]

Apparently Sony has a class action lawsuit already in the pipes.http://www.lawyerseek.com/Practice/Consumer-Protection-C21/Playstation-3-Yellow-Light-of-Death-P212/

vaderhater

:? Four Red Lights for the Xbox 360 means your AV cable isn't pluged in right, 3-Red Lights mean critical failure. :|

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

:? Four Red Lights for the Xbox 360 means your AV cable isn't pluged in right, 3-Red Lights mean critical failure. :|

DarkGamer007

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-system-failure-article Out of the 20 consoles they get for repair on average 12 are xboxes and 8 are PS3's. Both consoles have problems over time with haet issues because of non- lead soilder. 60/40 split between xbox and PS3 repairs. Thank god for a three year warranty and not just a one year one!

vaderhater

OMG, you totally plagiarised my link! Thief! :P

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-system-failure-article Out of the 20 consoles they get for repair on average 12 are xboxes and 8 are PS3's. Both consoles have problems over time with haet issues because of non- lead soilder. 60/40 split between xbox and PS3 repairs. Thank god for a three year warranty and not just a one year one!

Hexagon_777

OMG, you totally plagiarised my link! Thief! :P

Apparently Sony has a class action lawsuit already in the pipes.http://www.lawyerseek.com/Practice/Consumer-Protection-C21/Playstation-3-Yellow-Light-of-Death-P212/

shad0w70

Whether YLOD is common or not, this lawsuit was bound to happen. It doesn't matter if it's 5% or 100% as long as there's 1 person who thinks that they can use YLOD as a means of surviving the bad economy or just flat out making an easy buck.

Considering the "workshop" in the article is independent and the 360 does have a 3 year warranty..wouldn't it be safe to assume they are only seeing a very small portion of RROD's?

Why would anybody send a console to them to get fixed if it voids your warranty?

This story proves nothing.

I refuse to read a post from someone who hates Lord Vader :(SparkyProtocol

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-system-failure-article Out of the 20 consoles they get for repair on average 12 are xboxes and 8 are PS3's. Both consoles have problems over time with haet issues because of non- lead soilder. 60/40 split between xbox and PS3 repairs. Thank god for a three year warranty and not just a one year one!

vaderhater

OMG, you totally plagiarised my link! Thief! :P

I was hoping it would be a more balanced discussion. This thread seems to focus on the PS3 and the link appears to serve as a way of getting back at PS3 fanboys.

Considering the "workshop" in the article is independent and the 360 does have a 3 year warranty..wouldn't it be safe to assume they are only seeing a very small portion of RROD's?

Why would anybody send a console to them to get fixed if it voids your warranty?

This story proves nothing.

PvtGump8

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

OMG, you totally plagiarised my link! Thief! :P

Hexagon_777

I was hoping it would be a more balanced discussion. This thread seems to focus on the PS3 and the link appears to serve as a way of getting back at PS3 fanboys.

[QUOTE="PvtGump8"]

Considering the "workshop" in the article is independent and the 360 does have a 3 year warranty..wouldn't it be safe to assume they are only seeing a very small portion of RROD's?

Why would anybody send a console to them to get fixed if it voids your warranty?

This story proves nothing.

vaderhater

Ya it kind of does, who is going to pay £60 for these guys to repair your 360 when M$ will replace them for free ? the only people i can see is the people who are out of warranty where as with the PS3 if it breaks after a year these guys will repair it for £70 instead of Sony's £100 ( not sure never had to pay but i heard it was £100+)

I actually thought they'd have more broken PS3's then 360's because of that reason to be honest :?

[QUOTE="PvtGump8"]

Considering the "workshop" in the article is independent and the 360 does have a 3 year warranty..wouldn't it be safe to assume they are only seeing a very small portion of RROD's?

Why would anybody send a console to them to get fixed if it voids your warranty?

This story proves nothing.

vaderhater

So, you think this workshop is seeing all the broken 360's in the U.K.?

the GI pole takes into account EVERY type of 360 soled. If they were to poll only those with the new chipsets Im sure it would be lower........MUCH lower.

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

[QUOTE="PvtGump8"]

Considering the "workshop" in the article is independent and the 360 does have a 3 year warranty..wouldn't it be safe to assume they are only seeing a very small portion of RROD's?

Why would anybody send a console to them to get fixed if it voids your warranty?

This story proves nothing.

PvtGump8

So, you think this workshop is seeing all the broken 360's in the U.K.?

[QUOTE="shad0w70"]Apparently Sony has a class action lawsuit already in the pipes. Link.ceruxx

Whether YLOD is common or not, this lawsuit was bound to happen. It doesn't matter if it's 5% or 100% as long as there's 1 person who thinks that they can use YLOD as a means of surviving the bad economy or just flat out making an easy buck.

I think the following paragraph from the article is quite relevant to this:

Clearly, the PS3 warranty situation is of concern, and there's a mammoth amount of reading to sift through in this Eurogamer thread, which in its latter pages coughs up an interesting perspective. Following a piece on the BBC's One Show, there is a powerful legal argument that suggests that the length of the manufacturer's warranty is irrelevant in face of the all-powerful Sales of Good Act. Maybe - just maybe - if enough people make a fuss about this, Sony will re-evaluate its current one-year coverage so people don't have to jump through hoops to ensure a reasonable lifespan for their premium-priced games machines.Eurogamer

To be fair I think as with my TV you can go to the Sony Style website and extend your warranties as long as you are under one year.

so did they mention the total number of consoles they used in the observation r did they just pick a random twenty?...

just wonderin... cus i could buy a pack of skittles and get 10 reds and 20 blues.. doesnt mean thats the true representation of the real ratio

so did they mention the total number of consoles they used in the observation r did they just pick a random twenty?...

just wonderin... cus i could buy a pack of skittles and get 10 reds and 20 blues.. doesnt mean thats the true representation of the real ratio

ktrotter11

To be fair I think as with my TV you can go to the Sony Style website and extend your warranties as long as you are under one year.

vaderhater

Considering the "workshop" in the article is independent and the 360 does have a 3 year warranty..wouldn't it be safe to assume they are only seeing a very small portion of RROD's?

Why would anybody send a console to them to get fixed if it voids your warranty?

This story proves nothing.

PvtGump8

should we put our consoles in mini fridges/freezers. YES Ive found a cure to the heating issues. !!!!:P

should we put our consoles in mini fridges/freezers. YES Ive found a cure to the heating issues. !!!!:P

Ribnarak

[QUOTE="Ribnarak"]

should we put our consoles in mini fridges/freezers. YES Ive found a cure to the heating issues. !!!!:P

vaderhater

The slim uses smaller chipsets that generate less heat than the fats, it should happen less

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

[QUOTE="Ribnarak"]

should we put our consoles in mini fridges/freezers. YES Ive found a cure to the heating issues. !!!!:P

ChopperDave1

The slim uses smaller chipsets that generate less heat than the fats, it should happen less

"Colchester Computers" is independent as far as i know the same as Console Doctor now as you stated the 360 has a 3 year warranty so who is going to pay these guys to fix it when they can ship it of to M$ for free.lol Frankly i'm surprised they get so many 360's it just goes to show how many out of warranty 360 owners refuse to pay M$ absurd repair price.micky4889

"Colchester Computers" is independent as far as i know the same as Console Doctor now as you stated the 360 has a 3 year warranty so who is going to pay these guys to fix it when they can ship it of to M$ for free.lol Frankly i'm surprised they get so many 360's it just goes to show how many out of warranty 360 owners refuse to pay M$ absurd repair price.micky4889

[QUOTE="shad0w70"]

Apparently Sony has a class action lawsuit already in the pipes.http://www.lawyerseek.com/Practice/Consumer-Protection-C21/Playstation-3-Yellow-Light-of-Death-P212/

ceruxx

Whether YLOD is common or not, this lawsuit was bound to happen. It doesn't matter if it's 5% or 100% as long as there's 1 person who thinks that they can use YLOD as a means of surviving the bad economy or just flat out making an easy buck.

Wouldn't it be funny if Sony lost another lawsuit due to faulty hardware? This place would explode with cows in DC...

[QUOTE="ChopperDave1"]

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]Things break. Anyhow with the slim being smaller could this happen more often?

vaderhater

The slim uses smaller chipsets that generate less heat than the fats, it should happen less

Seems a lot like that recent GI poll. Everyone says that the 360 failure rate is 33% then GI says 54%? We'll need more sources confirming these numbers to get a better average.

[QUOTE="micky4889"]"Colchester Computers" is independent as far as i know the same as Console Doctor now as you stated the 360 has a 3 year warranty so who is going to pay these guys to fix it when they can ship it of to M$ for free.lol Frankly i'm surprised they get so many 360's it just goes to show how many out of warranty 360 owners refuse to pay M$ absurd repair price.shad0w70