Yikes, Gears 2 comparison video makes Gears look quite dated!

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#1 thetruespin
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvYPiEi4eU

Watch in HD

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#2 Mike1234234
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But the graphics don't matter right?

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#3 DarkGamer007
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Only difference I noticed is some of the lighting, and Killzone 2 has much better textures than Gears of War 2 does, but really both games look amazing. Thanks for not posting screenshots as 99% of games with the exception of Halo 3 look better in motion.

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#4 Squall18
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Killzone 2 is gorgeous on my hdtv. It is awesome!!

However, gameplay suffers somewhat of an identity crisis. I'd prefer Gears gameplay any day over Killzone 2

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#5 PSdual_wielder
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I can't believe there's that big of a difference, last time I played gears of war 2 was like a little over a month ago, and I thought it looked really good. But really, now that Sony has such a beautiful engine(besides the game), they need to put it to good use and pump out a few more games using it.

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#6 AAllxxjjnn
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graphics are the most important thing right?
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#7 JakeTD21
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The only thing that looks different is the lighting. Plus the video is crappy quality.
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#8 Shattered007
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If anything I think this Video shows that Killzone 2 isn't leaps and bounds better then GeOW2. That's not to say that Killzone 2 don't look better then Gears but it does show that Gears is no slouch (Just an FYI, I have Killzone 2 and I "DONT" have Gears of War 2.)
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#9 Solid_Max13
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The only thing that looks different is the lighting. Plus the video is crappy quality.JakeTD21
Watched it in HD wasn't half bad but lighting textures and chracter models belong to KZ, as for gameplay they're both different elements each have a unique way of approaching it.
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#10 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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No.

Gears 1 looks better in Multiplayer for some odd reason.

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#11 JakeTD21
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[QUOTE="JakeTD21"]The only thing that looks different is the lighting. Plus the video is crappy quality.Solid_Max13
Watched it in HD wasn't half bad but lighting textures and chracter models belong to KZ, as for gameplay they're both different elements each have a unique way of approaching it.

I watched it in HD also.
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#12 PSdual_wielder
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graphics are the most important thing right?AAllxxjjnn

Why am I not surprised the defending side always use this question? Everyone uses it, seriously. And no its not the most important thing, they add to the experience, but its really the interaction(hence the gameplay) that makes up the experience.

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#13 Steppy_76
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I can't believe there's that big of a difference, last time I played gears of war 2 was like a little over a month ago, and I thought it looked really good. But really, now that Sony has such a beautiful engine(besides the game), they need to put it to good use and pump out a few more games using it.

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I don't think the difference is all that great personally, especially not when one game was in development over twice as long and isn't using a multiplatform engine.
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#14 thetruespin
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i think we also need to note that all the killzone stuff is taken from the demo... i hear some of the later levels (train ride etc) are even better!
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#15 SpruceCaboose
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Personally, I find both to look great, but I wish there was a bit less blur in KZ2.
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#16 DivergeUnify
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Looks like bad footage of both was used. The video also ran like garbage for me
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#17 Pariah_001
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Killzone 2 is gorgeous on my hdtv. It is awesome!!

However, gameplay suffers somewhat of an identity crisis. I'd prefer Gears gameplay any day over Killzone 2

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Identity crisis? Isn't that the same cop-out that inspired Aaron Thomas to give Ratchet a sub-AA score? Sounds more like a passive attempt to de-emphasize the game itself by involving every other game ever made. I don't think I need to explain why such a thinly-veiled deceit is just so much rhetoric.
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#18 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="Squall18"]

Killzone 2 is gorgeous on my hdtv. It is awesome!!

However, gameplay suffers somewhat of an identity crisis. I'd prefer Gears gameplay any day over Killzone 2

Pariah_001
Identity crisis? Isn't that the same cop-out that inspired Aaron Thomas to give Ratchet a sub-AA score? Sounds more like a passive attempt to de-emphasize the game itself by involving every other game ever made. I don't think I need to explain why such a thinly-veiled deceit is just so much rhetoric.

Or, it could be his opinion. Just because it does not jive with yours does not make it a lie.
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#19 Trigger_Hppy
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You're right, Killzone looks better than Gears. What a shocker. A 4-year developed title with a specialized engine compared to a two-year developed title using the now somewhat-aging UT3 engine. I definitetly didn't see that coming.

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#20 Ragashahs
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You're right, Killzone looks better than Gears. What a shocker. A 4-year developed title with a specialized engine compared to a two-year developed title using the now somewhat-aging UT3 engine. I definitetly didn't see that coming.

Trigger_Hppy

The main point is the gears 2 is currently the best looking 360 game and MS has always been chirping gears is a best game that showcases the 360's power and considering KZ2 beats its in so many levels graphically it is alittle disheartening Even the gurellia games is talking about how they can improve on the next KZ but do you really think gears 3 will have a substantial improvement and even match KZ2 in terms of grpahics? i say no but that just my opinion

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[QUOTE="Shattered007"]If anything I think this Video shows that Killzone 2 isn't leaps and bounds better then GeOW2. That's not to say that Killzone 2 don't look better then Gears but it does show that Gears is no slouch (Just an FYI, I have Killzone 2 and I "DONT" have Gears of War 2.)

You should watch in HD... or just rent Gears 2 to see for yourself. There is a very clear difference. Gears 2 still looks good, and I still love some of the cinematic moments........ but Killzone 2 looks freakin great. There's really nothing else on consoles that can touch it.
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#22 lolfaqs
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yeah, that excellent video shows how dated Gears looks already.

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#23 Master-Thief-09
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Personally, I find both to look great, but I wish there was a bit less blur in KZ2.SpruceCaboose
Seriously, blurry guns in KZ2?
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#24 Dingerious
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Honestly, Killzone 2 does look better. But it's such a marginal difference that it doesn't really matter.

Only thing that I found really cool was the smoke interacting with the engines. Other than that, they're pretty equal. The whole "light through the window" crap was a laugh, though. Shoot, BLACK did a good job of that on the PS2!

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#25 GTR_FX
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KZ2 looks a bit better, but I find it hilarious how they compare atmosphere and bullet holes but not texture quality, which is something Gears of war 2 does alot better

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#26 DivergeUnify
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KZ2 looks a bit better, but I find it hilarious how they compare atmosphere and bullet holes but not texture quality, which is something Gears of war 2 does alot better

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Particle effects are much more important to an fps, imo
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#27 Vasichko
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Sorry I think KZ2 looks alot better.

So much stuff going on, dust in the air, stuff blowing around, the animations of the enemies, physics.

I own both but I am in awe at KZ2.

It looks great on my 61" DLP thats ISF calibrated.

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#28 Hockey_Slayer
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Could Care less Gears 2 MP is garbage and broken compared to the first one.

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#29 clone01
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvYPiEi4eU

Watch in HD

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yes: both Gears 2 and Killzone 2 look great.
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#30 SpruceCaboose
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Could Care less Gears 2 MP is garbage and broken compared to the first one.

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The first Gears was broken in MP as well. It was, IMO, more broken than Gears 2.
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#31 Hockey_Slayer
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[QUOTE="Hockey_Slayer"]

Could Care less Gears 2 MP is garbage and broken compared to the first one.

SpruceCaboose

The first Gears was broken in MP as well. It was, IMO, more broken than Gears 2.

The only thing I found bad about the first one was the host advantage. I found you could use to that no problem. In the second i'm not even going to get into naming all of the problems it would take it long.

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#32 Gamersince81
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Thats the demo of KZ2. The game i beat looked better than the demo. A demo KILLZONED GEARS 2 graphically. Damn GEARS and Epic what happened? People that played the last level in KZ2 really know what the engine can do.. the game is bananas son!!!

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#33 grr320
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If they chose a darker lit area for gears of war 2 same brightness as killzone2 part they shot comparing models gears 2 would of looked better. it was just the section/lighting making gears2 look crap.
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#34 Pariah_001
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Or, it could be his opinion. Just because it does not jive with yours does not make it a lie.SpruceCaboose
I didn't say it was a lie, but that's just the thing: while it's played as an honest observation, it's an incredibly loaded statement. It's not far from being a weasel word or, in this case, a phrase. Except instead of using an intensifier, it employees a cryptic vagary that sounds negative but doesn't actually explain why. "Identity crisis." What exactly is that supposed to mean and how does it downgrade the game?
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#35 Pariah_001
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You're right, Killzone looks better than Gears. What a shocker. A 4-year developed title with a specialized engine compared to a two-year developed title using the now somewhat-aging UT3 engine. I definitetly didn't see that coming.Trigger_Hppy

Is this your way of saying that you think Gears 2 would have looked just as good if not better than Killzone 2 if Epic took four years to make the game? How are you going to confirm such a thing?

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#36 W1NGMAN-
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All I can say is that not only does KZ2 have so much more going on screen but its still able to look better than Gears 2....which is VERY impressive.

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#37 itzagir
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Wow, that video is really biased. They only used the training level (arguably the worst looking part of Gears 2). Also, they compared it to a demo. And LMAO DYNAMIC RECOIL AND DYNAMIC DECALS. It's like REAL TIEM WEAPON CHAENG all over again.
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#38 itzagir
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Thats the demo of KZ2. The game i beat looked better than the demo. A demo KILLZONED GEARS 2 graphically. Damn GEARS and Epic what happened? People that played the last level in KZ2 really know what the engine can do.. the game is bananas son!!!

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LOL BELIEVE THIS MAN, HE SPEAKS THE UNBIASED AND FACTFUL TRUTH.
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#39 quizee
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the video made the character models look alot better in gears 2 but kz has the better lighting, and explosions. everything else is pretty close

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Or, it could be his opinion. Just because it does not jive with yours does not make it a lie.Pariah_001
I didn't say it was a lie, but that's just the thing: while it's played as an honest observation, it's an incredibly loaded statement. It's not far from being a weasel word or, in this case, a phrase. Except instead of using an intensifier, it employees a cryptic vagary that sounds negative but doesn't actually explain why. "Identity crisis." What exactly is that supposed to mean and how does it downgrade the game?

If I was guessing, I would say it means a game does nothing to distinguish itself from the standards of the genre. A game with no "identity", since it never does anything to stand out and be unique.
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#41 KGB32
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the volumetric smoke with the turbine of the drop ship mentioned at the end was pretty cool
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#42 itzagir
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the volumetric smoke with the turbine of the drop ship mentioned at the end was pretty coolKGB32
It's not actual volumetric smoke, just a pretty effect. The guy speaking was throwing every possible word to make it seem as a technical masterpiece. It already is i dont get why it needs to be said when by just looking at it you realise how awesome it looks. But seriously, dynamic decals and recoil? Welcome back to 2004.
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[QUOTE="Shattered007"]If anything I think this Video shows that Killzone 2 isn't leaps and bounds better then GeOW2. That's not to say that Killzone 2 don't look better then Gears but it does show that Gears is no slouch (Just an FYI, I have Killzone 2 and I "DONT" have Gears of War 2.)

Hopefully not, gears 2 was suppose to be the absolute flagship game for the 360 in terms of graphics. If K2 was WAY better then it would pretty much prove the PS3 is significantly more powerful
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#44 itzagir
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[QUOTE="Shattered007"]If anything I think this Video shows that Killzone 2 isn't leaps and bounds better then GeOW2. That's not to say that Killzone 2 don't look better then Gears but it does show that Gears is no slouch (Just an FYI, I have Killzone 2 and I "DONT" have Gears of War 2.)munu9
Hopefully not, gears 2 was suppose to be the absolute flagship game for the 360 in terms of graphics. If K2 was WAY better then it would pretty much prove the PS3 is significantly more powerful

care to link? I never saw anyone calling it the flagship of 360's power.
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#45 thelastguy
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Killzone 2 looked alot better in that video

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#46 clone01
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Killzone 2 looked alot better in that video

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your avatar and sig belie your objectivity.
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#47 itzagir
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="thelastguy"]

Killzone 2 looked alot better in that video

your avatar and sig belie your objectivity.

beat me to it.
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#48 grr320
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killzone2 dev's lied, the bullet holes are just a texture covering the wall. they said actual pieces of the wall is chipped out bs lol.
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#49 Huff
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I just don't see all of the graphics hype for KZ2. I'm not saying it's bad by any stretch of the imagination. I just don't think that its mind blowing. I think uncharted and gears 2 look better.

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#50 mazdero
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Anyone who has played the game and got to the level with the train can tell you KZ2 is much better visually and technically than Gears 2. The last level was just insane. All that destruction going on all over the place with no slow down was awesome. I really like the barren Helghast village too, that was a graphical showcase by itself. Gears 2 has better character models for sure, but it should since it is a TPS. I am so glad Guerilla delivered.